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Published: 2016-11-11 15:19:08 +0000 UTC; Views: 5590; Favourites: 111; Downloads: 0
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WarriorsRewritten is a project between AnnMY , tori-oislove and myself that aims to fill plot holes, fix inconsistencies, and apply proper feline genetics to the random sparklecats of the Warriors universe.A more relaxed style and colouring, don't mind me. ;w; Lazy Friday.
Cinderpelt was my favourite medicine cat of all time, and initially, I was super excited when she was reincarnated. But now, years later, I'm not really that into it anymore. I think it's another "world building" aspect that Erin lazily inserted and then made no rules for. How do cats get selected to be reincarnated? I loved Cinderpelt, but what made her so special? What about Swiftpaw? Snowkit? Longtail? I mean, of all the cats whose lives were cut short, or crippled and unable to pursue their dreams, Cinderpelt was the MOST accepting of her new role. She had friends, family, a Clan who loved her. She may have not been able to live her life as a warrior, but it wasn't a bad one.
And Cinderheart's dramatic character was an insult to the badass that was Cinderpelt. Her drama with Lionblaze was icky and had me rolling my eyes, even as a kiddo. She was nothing like her former self, and the Erin's realised this too late as well and were like "ah shit well um... we'll just split their spirits???? don't judge me kid, i make the rules."
(c) dearly disliked Erin Hunter
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Greetings Iycanroc ,
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I always thought that Cinderpelt can feel the thoughts on Cinderheart, and made her own choices. I mean, she wanted to feel what it was to be a warrior and apprentice
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I never thought too much on it since the concept was muddled to begin with, and only got worse the further Erin explored it.
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I never liked how Cinder was reincarnated. Why her of all cats? Why not kits who haven't had the chance to even exist, or apprentices. Cinderpelt seemed pretty happy and accepting of being a med cat, and adapting to her new life. And has SC always had this power, like can they just use it whenever they want?(Not talkign about if a Starclan spirit dies, I'm pretty sure they're reincarnated, and it actaully makes sense) If they do, then why don't they use it more often. I know the whole "ohhhhh if destinies don't happen you need a second chance" thing or whatever, and I read the comments below this, but why??? Does that mean kits and apprentices are destined to be killed then for no reason??
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Yeah, it's really messed up. :/ That's why I refuse to accept it... StarClan is too OP for this series and absolutely ruined.
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Yea, sometimes they're all powerful beings who know everything, and sometimes they're horribly useless
But hey, the Erins are getting better at writing in general with VoS, so hopefully they'll try and fix some mistakes, or at least make sense in the series with some things that need it
But hey, stuff like Starclan is hard to write kinda, so I sorta understand I guess
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Cinderpelt was chosen because it was not her destiny to be crippled, unlike the other cats. Her destiny was to be a warrior, not a medicine cat. This is why she had a such a hard time receiving visions. StarClan watched her work through her issues, and overcome her broken destiny. StarClan then thought about reincarnating her so that she could have a second chance. Just some kindness to give to such a hardworking, good and generous cat who asked for little in return. Her last test was to see her reaction to knowing she would soon die and how. Cinderpelt did not run or hide. She let Leafpool run off with Crowfeather depute knowing that she, Cinderpelt, would soon die! To see Cinderpelt act so brave in the face of her death, without knowing that she had toe chance to be reincarnated, was the last reason StarClan let her be reincarnated.
Also, according to the Erins, when cats are forgotten from memory in StarClan they are reincarnated. But without any memories of their previous lives.
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Thank you for the explanation, but I'm still not a fan of Erin's decision. Overall, I don't like that StarClan has the ability to just reincarnate cats, especially if there is already a structured way in which cats are reincarnated. And then it boils down to the question, what is destiny? How do they know it wasn't her destiny to get crippled- if she gets crippled, then isn't that her destiny? How can one decide when someone has deviated off their supposedly trodden path? And why does StarClan know? Can these dead cats see into the future? Why? What is the extent of StarClan's power? So it wasn't Cinderpaw's destiny to get run over by a car and train under Yellowfang, but it was Snowkit's to be snatched by a hawk? What decides that?
In general I loathe how Warriors tackles fate/destiny, and the ambiguity of StarClan's prowess and the fact they possess such abilities. Clearly it leaves me with too many questions.
Rather, I think the fact that Cinderpelt endured it all and still wound up being a highly respectable figurehead both inside her Clan and out shows that you don't need to follow your "destiny." She was way more notable as a medicine cat than she would have been as warrior. I'd much rather her have left the legacy of an incredible medicine cat who tackled all challenges with her head held high, despite her limitations and shortcomings, than for her to be reincarnated into a vastly inferior character.
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Based off of Goosefeather's Curse, destiny seems to mainly be set in stone. Goosefeather could not change destiny, despite what he tried to do. Tigerstar's ability to accidentally alter Cinderpelt's destiny by sending her in the path of the monster was just an example of his power.
I doubt destiny will ever be clearly explained. Or StarClan's powers. There are some hints as to how it works. For example, how StarClan does not always know the answer to prophecies so they must come from somewhere. I like this so that I can theorize about how it works. Make up my own ideas in my head instead of having all the fats laid out for me.
I think letting Cinderpelt be reincarnated was a rare kindness that the Erins showed towards Cinderpelt. The explanations int he book was more backup. I am also sad about Cinderheart not getting enough spotlight. I would love for her to be a main character. Or at least for her to have some POV in a book. Instead they added Flametail, a choice that really confuses me.
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And destiny "being set in stone" is an aspect I don't agree with, which shoots down the whole Cinder reincarnation for me.
StarClan as a whole has been too invasive of Clan life for me to like them at all anymore. And yes, it seems like StarClan is much more the "middle man" between the universe and the living cats, which muddles up what StarClan is and is supposed to represent. It's a glaringly obvious ever-powerful creationist Christian copy-paste with weird superpowers that meddle with the Clans far too much for my liking. The reason Erin keeps their abilities vague is so that she can pull more plots out of thin air, instead of establishing what is and what isn't within StarClan's boundaries and working from there. Like all of the dead cats suddenly being able to walk the earth and harm living creatures? It's just "plot-convenient" sloppy world-building.
Not that we should know all the facts about something that is clearly supposed to be mysterious, but then they should have kept them strictly mysterious. Now they're basically a Clan of their own with how much they get written into books, and it absolutely ruins it for me. I much more fancy the idea of StarClan just as an afterlife, no "heaven" or religious aspects implied.
I think letting Cinderpelt be reincarnated was Erin showing Erin kindness, because she had a personal connection with the character, showing more of her blatant favouritism. And with the drama Cinderheart pulls as an adult (as literally a fridging plot device), I'm elated she didn't serve as a POV. It would have just been more whining and woe-is-me, which has been so terribly overdone with Warriors protagonists as of the last few arcs. Flametail's POV was refreshing and exciting for me, getting to see something outside of ThunderClan in the main series. Killing him off confused me more than including him.
But, to each their own.
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Ignore me while I stalk your gallery and rant in all the comments;
BUT I TOTALLY AGREE.
It always really bugged me how Cinderpelt got to live twice. Her life wasn't the worst, and cats have had more violent, more pointless deaths than her. She was totally chilled out about dying, so how did that conversation go?
Honestly the only reason I can think is that the Erins knew she was a fan-favourite and were too scared to risk actually killing her off.
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Yeah... she was so at peace with it. Meanwhile, Swiftpaw took on a dog pack in the hopes that he would finally receive his warrior name and was brutally murdered. Or Longtail, who was blinded as a young warrior and had to spend the rest of his life as an elder before he was killed by a falling tree trying to save his denmate's freshkill. Oooor Snowkit, who was born deaf and had no chance of becoming a warrior, snatched by a bird before he could even become an apprentice. Fallen Leaves, Sootfur, Rainwhisker, Flametail, Talonpaw, Smokepaw, Gorsepaw, all the kits Brokenstar killed... *ahem*
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exactly. It's like Cinderpelt just sat down peacefully like "alright then, I've had a good life" and Starclan threw one of their famous tantrums: "BUT YOU'RE OUR FAVOURITE!!"
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I 100% agree.
I feel like Cinderheart ruined the legacy that was Cinderpelt.
Of course, as a separate character, I don't hate Cinderheart, but her character messed with how you were suppose to remember Cinderpelt.
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Exactly, you have officially gained 100 points...I hate Cinderheart now, she was better as an apprentice but as a warrior...nope.
XD I like how Cinderpelt looks like she's giving Cinderheart a 'you have failed me' look.
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