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Two-finger salute .It is not clear when the two-fingers salute appeared in Polish military forces. Some see its origin in Tadeusz Kościuszko 's 1794 oath. Another legend attributes the salute to the remembrance of Battle of Olszynka Grochowska in 1831, when a soldier who lost two fingers in the battle saluted his superior with a wounded hand.
The two-fingers salute caused problems for Polish units serving with the Allies on the western front during World War II. Allied officers, seeing what they perceived as a Cub Scout's salute, thought that Polish soldiers either were deliberately being disrespectful, or were intoxicated. As a result many soldiers were arrested, until the misunderstanding could be explained. This led to the temporary use of the full hand salute when saluting foreign officers. XD
Rogatywka have it's orgin from czapka from the Napoleonic wars.
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Wigger19 [2023-05-24 17:26:08 +0000 UTC]
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zanetwinsfromsodor [2022-08-30 00:54:04 +0000 UTC]
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PonyishLimbo [2017-10-08 14:55:20 +0000 UTC]
The moment you know your culture was hijacked is when the Polish soldier model is actually a halfassed, quarter-accurate japanese simulation.
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EmeraldAngel2 [2014-01-26 00:06:48 +0000 UTC]
The more you know...? But still, that's very interesting that dudes got arrested for that!
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Janemin In reply to EmeraldAngel2 [2014-01-27 00:07:46 +0000 UTC]
Cultural differences - what can we do e?
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EmeraldAngel2 In reply to Janemin [2014-01-27 00:11:08 +0000 UTC]
By the way, I LOVE your art~! It's so freaking beautiful! However, I don't really like the homosexual content and sexual of most of your since it gets me uncomfortable. Not that I'm against it! I have gay uncles.
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Janemin In reply to EmeraldAngel2 [2014-01-27 12:57:03 +0000 UTC]
I am a healthy girl! I just like to watch naked guys. Just like guys like to watch Lesbians although they are straight!
This does not mean that I want to promote homosexual relationships
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EmeraldAngel2 In reply to Janemin [2014-01-27 20:01:26 +0000 UTC]
I didn't say you weren't healthy. ^_^'
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Janemin In reply to EmeraldAngel2 [2014-01-27 21:10:08 +0000 UTC]
I didn't want to use the word "straight" - is so corny.... =_=
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EmeraldAngel2 In reply to Janemin [2014-01-27 21:15:25 +0000 UTC]
Oh! I didn't know that was another word for straight, I literally thought I offended you.
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Janemin In reply to EmeraldAngel2 [2014-01-27 23:03:03 +0000 UTC]
it sn't! X} You haven't insulted me X]
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Star1012 [2013-11-11 18:45:02 +0000 UTC]
zakochałam się A jeśli chodzi o salutowanie dwoma palcami to dobrze że mamy coś swojego co nas wyróżnia
Feliks w mundurze po prostu zwalił mnie z nóg.
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WildRoe [2013-11-10 15:57:52 +0000 UTC]
Oj, Feluś... za mundurem panny sznurem!
Boski Feluś, Jan <3
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Janemin In reply to Peaceful-gun [2013-11-10 14:13:31 +0000 UTC]
Na rogatywce.... nie widzi?
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Peaceful-gun In reply to Janemin [2013-11-11 12:03:31 +0000 UTC]
aaaaaa okej bardziej się skupiłam na ramieniu
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AnimatorWriter [2013-11-10 03:07:22 +0000 UTC]
So that's the Polish salute? It's pretty similar to what soldiers do in America. I think a lot of soldiers do a variation of the same salute
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Janemin In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-10 13:05:16 +0000 UTC]
The Army troops can not do the variants of saluting,
salute is strictly defined by military law!
The U.S. Army salutes with the full hand.
And if you saw that the American soldier salute otherwise it could be done (as a courtesy) to the soldier of the Polish army.
In the army salute "as a civilian" (not in uniform) is a nod in the position of attention.
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AnimatorWriter In reply to Janemin [2013-11-10 19:42:28 +0000 UTC]
Interesting. I wonder if my dad knew anything like that.
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Janemin In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-10 21:52:15 +0000 UTC]
Just ask him! ^^ curiosity of knowledge is not a bad thing
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AnimatorWriter In reply to Janemin [2013-11-10 22:19:54 +0000 UTC]
I can't ask him! He's at work!
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Janemin In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-10 23:45:15 +0000 UTC]
U.S. armed forces and Swedish armed forces salute is identical to the British Royal Navy. The French salute is almost identical to the British Army's. In the Hellenic Army salute the palm is facing down and the fingers point to the coat of arms. Just like customary salute in the Polish Armed Forces but it is the two-fingers salute , a variation of the British military salute with only two fingers extended. In the Russian military , the right hand, palm down, is brought to the right temple, almost, but not quite, touching; the head has to be covered.
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AnimatorWriter In reply to Janemin [2013-11-11 03:56:48 +0000 UTC]
Being random (again), but the second I read the that the French salute was almost identical to the British Army's, I could just imagine how England would react to that
Thanks for the info, though^^
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Janemin In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-11 04:17:02 +0000 UTC]
conclusion: only Polish army saluts with two fingers.
your welcome ^^
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Janemin In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-10 23:28:49 +0000 UTC]
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falkazmijka In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-10 06:10:35 +0000 UTC]
Yet the Americans salute to their heads and the Poles - to the symbols on their caps. It not only changes the angle of the saluting hand. If without the rogatywka or some other type of Scout's cap, a Polish (Girl/Boy) Scouts would salute to a symbol above their left uniform pocket. Without their cap nor uniform on, the Polish Scout would salute upwards, with an arm bent at the elbow, in this case with the typical three-fingered Scout salute - as there is no symbol to salute to.
I find this motion an acceptable argument for the Polish salute being a kind of vow - we point those exact two fingers on the things we swear on, while giving the vows.
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AnimatorWriter In reply to falkazmijka [2013-11-10 07:07:47 +0000 UTC]
I see. Though one thing confuses me. . . where did you get the information from? Did you already know that, or did you research it?
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falkazmijka In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-10 10:04:29 +0000 UTC]
(In this note I'm making sure that you know that I'm just a fellow watcher, and _not_ Janemin herself .)
Well, I'm Polish, my family has a military tradition and I was largely raised by Scouting - it would be hard to not know .
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AnimatorWriter In reply to falkazmijka [2013-11-10 19:47:47 +0000 UTC]
That makes sense. I don't think I'll learn these things for another year (still in 8th grade )
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falkazmijka In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-12 06:37:29 +0000 UTC]
So, it makes you 👍: 0 ⏩: 1. Do you think that such things are covered by your school program? I have an ongoing impression that the American schools limit the information taught to basics, so it would be just the American version - and you'd have to either check the rest on the internet or wait until studying international relations on Uni. What do you think?
AnimatorWriter In reply to falkazmijka [2013-11-12 23:49:09 +0000 UTC]
I go to a core knowledge school, so these kinds of things aren't covered. I don't think American schools teach lessons like that until we're in high school or in a private school. I'm not even sure they teach 9th graders about the military. They might later in the year, but I won't know unless my brother says anything.
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falkazmijka In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-16 18:28:59 +0000 UTC]
Well, in the end it isn't school that educates a person, but a person hirself . So I see that you are educating yourself more than it's in your school's program - and that's good, isn't it?
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AnimatorWriter In reply to falkazmijka [2013-11-16 18:33:42 +0000 UTC]
Depends on what you plan to do when you're an adult
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falkazmijka In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-16 19:12:27 +0000 UTC]
I think that our difference of perspectives stems out from the difference between our cultures: you are American, so you are going to _do_your_job_ - while I'm Polish, so I am doing _whatever_I_can_ .
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AnimatorWriter In reply to falkazmijka [2013-11-16 19:14:22 +0000 UTC]
What the heck do you mean by 'whatever you can'?
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falkazmijka In reply to AnimatorWriter [2013-11-16 21:05:24 +0000 UTC]
(Uh, sorry for my verbal diarrhoea - it's late for me being awake, so I don't quite remember to stop talking when I should ><.)
Exactly that - catching chances as they go, because everything changes, everything is in a flow and life is quite unpredictable. (I've already worked about seven types of work, had qualified for nearly each one beforehand, and I'm still 22.) There is a reason why, while all over the world the Scouts call each other to "be prepared", the Polish Scouts call to "stay vigilant" . There is a reason why, while the governments of the world plan for 2 to 10 years, the Polish one finds planning for just one year very difficult. For many-many generations we're sitting on a geopolitical "volcano" -> it shapes the culture.
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The USA used to be much more stable - but with the terrorism flowing around, it may end up too alike, one day. (Centuries ago, Poland also used the be the democratic world power that made enemies in a world that didn't understand.)
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AnimatorWriter In reply to falkazmijka [2013-11-17 01:16:39 +0000 UTC]
Okay. . . though (thankfully) most terrorism is NOT in the area where I live. The closest was when there was a shooting at LAX, though there is plenty of violence, just not in my home town. It's kind of sad how chaotic it is over here -_-' Though I'm trying to figure out what's worse; the terror attacks or domestic violence.
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