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The-Fedora-Cynic In reply to Jerard-Kal [2013-12-30 00:00:50 +0000 UTC]

Really? And I suppose Sabrina, the leader of Saffron Gym, arguable the most powerful Human Psychic, wouldn't be known or even sensed by the most powerful mind in the Pokemon universe? -_-;

Moving on from that; we've seen that Mewtwo is capable of generating a worldwide hurricane powerful enough to wipe out every Human being on the planet, block all the powers and special abilities of the gathered Pokemon and clones fighting on New Island below, AND take on Mew, another Psychic with powers that are unquestionably god-like, head to head, all at once, and with seemingly no real effort or strain.... Are we really supposed to believe that Vader could kill him with such little effort? -_- Please, that's just laughable.

Another point made was that Vader could just snap Mewtwo's neck and crush/force choke him.... Yeah no. =/ After seeing just a glimpse of what Mewtwo can do, it's not a stretch of the imagination in the least to say that Mewtwo could very easily counter such an attempt with his own abilities with minimal effort. And that's even assuming that Vader could get through Mewtwo's 'Barrier', a shield we've seen can shrug off anything Mew could throw at him with no damage or drain on his energy (These being raw psychic power rather than actual Pokemon attacks, which are vastly more dangerous seeing as said energy blasts turned Ash into stone).

Also, we've seen Mewtwo blasted from the cloud layer straight into a stone walled stadium by Mew, and he was back up within a second.... And might I add, with not a mark on him. Demonstrating in full just how durable that synthetic body of his is, considering that was a collision in excess of in between three and four 'hundred' miles an hour into solid rock.

Another point is Mewtwo's speed, he's no slouch. According to statistics, Mewtwo is one of the fastest Pokemon in existence. Putting his speed well into the supersonic category if you check on some of those slower than him.

And finally, his mind. Mewtwo's telepathic powers are unmatched in the Pokemon universe. For example, we've seen the force bend the wills of the weak minded, and we've also seen how those with a strong will can resist it's influence, even without training. However, we've seen Mewtwo perform a great deal more, again with seemingly no effort on his part. For example, we saw him kidnap and brainwash Nurse Joy, a person whom loves all life and would never dream of harming anyone, Pokemon or Human, and turned her into a mindless puppet, completely suppressing her mind and will, as he made her help him create his first batch of genetically augmented Pokemon. An act, I think we can all agree, Nurse Joy would have sooner died than take part in willingly.... So he didn't give her a choice.

Well, that's my bit said. I should also note that I do not mean to say that this will be a cakewalk for Mewtwo, Vader is a devious and dangerous opponent, just that anyone believing that this will be an easy win for Vader might want to consider all the facts before making that call.

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Jerard-Kal In reply to The-Fedora-Cynic [2013-12-30 01:22:54 +0000 UTC]

I have seen the facts. I still think it's an easy win. There is a reason Vader was feared in the galaxy. He IS A FUCKING CRIPPLE AND STILL KILLED DOZENS OF JEDI THAT WERE AT THEIR PEAK. So yeah, Mewtwo can make a storm big deal. Giratina can kick it's ass easy, not to mention Palkia, Dialga, Rayquaza, etc. Yeah, I know my fucking pokemon AND my fucking Star Wars. I wouldn't be saying what I'm saying if I wasn't one hundred percent sure about what I'm saying.

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The-Fedora-Cynic In reply to Jerard-Kal [2013-12-30 16:08:29 +0000 UTC]

Very well, I see that little things like logic and reasoning have no place here.

Do whatever you will, say whatever you'd like, I'll leave you to your delusions.

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Jerard-Kal In reply to The-Fedora-Cynic [2013-12-30 16:31:50 +0000 UTC]

I actually asked my friends about this question. They actually made a better argument for Mewtwo than you ever did. They argued he does have abilities on par with Vader, but lacked the discipline and training the Vader has had. All you said was he can take a shadow ball from the stratosphere from a pokemon who's power could actually be shit-tier. We don't know enough about Mew to accurately predict its power beyond that it is supposed to be weaker than Mewtwo, and it is. Your argument fails to take into account one crucial detail as well; Anime Logic.

Anime logic is the idea that characters from humble beginnings can eventually warp even space and time. It's seen in Bleach, Pokemon, Naruto, Gundam, Gurren Lagann, and the most notorious of all (for me) Mirai Nikki. These animes have no real way of measuring their power accurately for us to use in something like a Death Battle. This is also seen in the famous Goku versus Superman video. There are STILL people arguing for Goku's superiority in spite of the calculations made because for them and many anime lovers, their characters can do the impossible.

On the other hand, I'm not saying Vader can warp space and time, but I am saying he is strong enough and skilled enough to defeat Mewtwo. The force is a wellspring of life and power that Vader can tap into in a pinch while Mewtwo can only count on a limited amount of psychic power that he has, regardless on how large that pool of psychic energy is. If you accuse ME of not being able to see reason, then you are definitely suffering from Anime Logic.

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JasonPictures In reply to DarthDemolsis [2013-10-28 11:32:29 +0000 UTC]

So who do you think will win?

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DarthDemolsis In reply to JasonPictures [2013-10-28 19:40:20 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, it could go either way.

Vader has a power that easily matches Mewtwo's, but Mewtwo has INCREDIBLE speed which can give Vader a bit of a problem.

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DarthDemolsis In reply to TDArulesclub4 [2013-10-28 11:25:51 +0000 UTC]

And Vader would have NO immunity to this whatsoever thanks to the Force?

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