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JasonWerefox In reply to Farumir [2011-08-21 17:30:30 +0000 UTC]

No, No, No. You humans and your english terms. Despite some of the knowledge you know about werewolves and us werehybrids, their are some things your off. Those that have human forms and are bitten by werewolves and or werefoxes are weres but not the pure blooded ones. Pure blooded ones like myself don't have a human form. That's why its so confusing for humans to understend about us werehybrids and werewolves. Pure blooded weres have no human form but it doesn't mean that we are not weres. Those that have human forms that are humans that were bitten by either pure blooded weres or those who were already bitten from them. Sorry, but I am a werefox even though I don't have a human form.

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Farumir In reply to JasonWerefox [2011-08-21 20:57:24 +0000 UTC]

I'm not rping with you, I do actually mean you really have got the name mixed up.

And what you just said no sense whatsoever. 'were' means 'man', which means were-creatures can only be half humans, not full animals.
Werewolves are not the only were-creature you know; there are REAL myths existing about werecats (the most famous one is the leopardman, originated in the Amazon and aztec cultures), werehyenas which are also called Bultungin which means 'I transform/change myself into a hyena' in african (note: werehyenas are not to be confused with knolls, they are two different things despite them both sharing hyena inheritage), and even wererats but they are better known as 'goblin rats' in japan.

Trust me, I'm a werewolf-maniac, I study the legends for fun and make art about werewolves all the time including an independent werewolf movie for my university (hence why researching them is important; so that I get every little detail as accurate as possible in my work); there is nothing I won't know about werewolves. I have read up on every true myth, legend, fact and fiction about them on every website and in every book available in my area's libraries as well as further learning about them on tv documentaries.

If a human-like animal has no human form nor any shape-shifting abilities; then they are either a furry or an anthro (note; anthros and furries are NOT the same thing. Anthro is short for anthropomorphic for a reason, because they are animals with human anatomy but still realistic and more animal-like. While furries are just cartoony animals with more human-like traits like wearing clothes etc), but neither furries or anthros count as were-creatures. actually drew a pretty accurate chart also explaining the definitions and differences of were-creatures, anthros and furries [link] (she's now become famous among DA's werewolf fans due to her work actually being used on the new Teenwolf tv series).

Then there are shape-shifting animals from japanese mythology such as kitsunes/foxes, tanukis/raccoon-dogs, some cats and dogs, even badgers and snakes along with spiders, and yes of course ookamis/wolves; but again they don't fall in the same catagory as furries or anthros because animal shape-shifters are just normal animals in appearance with the ability to change into anything from a teapot to a giant monster, plus according to japanese legends shape-shifting animals would more than often assume a human form (usually a woman) to either trick humans or to co-exist with them. There are even myths about shape-shifting animals taking human form so that they can marry a human they're grown attached to; but the only ways you can spot an animal in disguise is by looking at their shadow (because no matter what form they take, their shadow always stays the same as their real bodies), and or by looking at them with a hair from a wolf's eye-brow (there is a legend about a man who saved a wolf's life, and as a token of thanks the wolf plucked a hair from its eye-brow and gave it to the man, telling him that through the eye-brow hair he will always see one's true self. And just as the wolf said; when the man when home to greet a friend with his wife, he held up the eye-brow hair and looked at both his friend and his friend's wife...and while he saw his friend as as human, he saw that the wife was actually a crow in disguise). The manga & anime Wolf's Rain, Wolf and Spice, and Studio Ghibli's Pom Poko were actually based on these popular legends of Japanese mythology.

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JasonWerefox In reply to Farumir [2011-09-02 01:48:54 +0000 UTC]

Damn...that's a long reply but thanks for all the information that nearly made me collapsed. Well I'm not saying your wrong, but in my case even though I don't have a human form, I am considered a werehybrid. In my case not all werehybrids have human form and I know you weren't rping with me. XD

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Farumir In reply to JasonWerefox [2011-09-02 16:20:31 +0000 UTC]

If you have no human form, then you're a furry or an anthro. It is impossible to call what you are a 'were' without you being human in any way, that's what I'm saying. Not even werehybrids can be called 'were' if they don't have human forms either. werehybrids can only be of a human and multiple animals like part human and part liger (liger's half tiger and half lion), or a hybrid of two or more were-creatures like half werewolf and half werecat, or even a hybrid of demon or other supernatural entity like the classic half werewolf half vampire, but regardless of what they're hybridized with; they ALL have a human form, otherwise they are not weres because 'were' means 'man' not 'animal'.

Like I said - No human form; no were. Without a human form, such a creature with bipedal movements and humanoid traits (e.g. intelligence, hands and or thumbs, clothes, etc) is referred to as either a furry or an anthro.

If you want to rp though I do have a DA box for when I'm rping with my own group of friends, the box is based on our own comics we're all making each.

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JasonWerefox In reply to Farumir [2011-09-02 20:55:29 +0000 UTC]

I'm not saying your wrong. But my fursona in the furry world he's a werefox but has no human form. He's considered a "were" because he transforms into a much stronger version of himself. I'm not trying to get into a debate, that's just how m fursona is. You are absolutely correct, but that's just how my fursona is, he's a werefox, half-werewolf and half-fox. That's just how I perceive him as.

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Farumir In reply to JasonWerefox [2011-09-02 21:51:32 +0000 UTC]

That sounds more like a pipe-fox; a small fox that can fit in a pipe or just a regular fox that can transform into a huge beast-like kitsune when certain conditions are met (e.g. certain phase of the moon, contact with its element like fire or water for example, its master if it has one commanding it to transform, etc). Or even an egyptian deity where jackals and cats (believed to be the children of the animal-headed gods and godesses) were said to take a more human-like appearance similar to a were-creature again when certain conditions are met, the most common condition was to protect a pharaoh's tomb from robbers and evil spirits (hence all the statues or them).

I get that he's a werewolf/fox hybrid, that's cool, two of my friends have that kind of character actually, but I'm just saying that werefox is the wrong name to call it coz' werefox just means half man half fox (werefox is also an existing were-creature in mythology, but I've forgotten what culture it's from, I think it might be in china, korea, and again Japan but I'm not entirely sure). That's all.

Oh and one more thing; never, and I mean NEVER say a werewolf belongs in the 'furry world' because it doesn't. It belongs in horror media and real mythology, and trust me; if you ever confuse a werewolf for a furry at a horror festival, movie/comic/anime/manga convention, whitby goth weekend event, or worse at a haunted house attraction such as the famous Verdun Manor at Thrillvania [link] ...well, lets just say you'd seriously regret it since you'd probably leave with deaf ears from all the offended were-fans and werewolf-costumers and possibly plenty of bruises from any furry-haters prowling around the area (I know this from experience when a kid on the textiles and fashion course in college came into the cafeteria one day with a big black-eye and plaster on his jaw for calling a gothic artist who drew naked models turning into werewolves and weretigers, a fur-fag at a zombie-film festival). So please for your own sake, take this advice whenever you go to a convention of any kind, for it will save you a lot of grief.

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JasonWerefox In reply to NoPurposeNaji [2011-04-14 14:47:41 +0000 UTC]

One, werefoxes have a mixture of fox and werewolf DNA not wolves. And Two, because of the werewolf side, everything is enhanced including the speed and agility, making us very fast predators and very strong.

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