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The categories game refers to the switching or misplacement of deviations into less competitive or algorithm preferred submission categories in order to gain a ranking advantage in dA's popularity algorithm, generally as a means of appearing more frequently on front page and subsequently gaining greater exposure.
The categories game arises from the inherent category biases under dA's "fair exposure" policy. The goal of the policy is to "maximize the display of the most popular deviations in a variety of topics…with Fair Exposure, the community is exposed to a varied cross-section of deviantART. " What this boils down to is that certain categories have inherent ranking advantages and others inherent ranking disadvantages on front page. For more information on dA's fair exposure policy and how it leads to the categories game, consult my last journal on "How to win at deviantART: Exposed: roseonthegrey.deviantart.com/j… "
As you may have guessed, some deviants have decoded this underlying ranking categories bias and turn it into a means of using the system to achieve greater exposure (a game if you will). Whether exploiting this loophole in the system to your advantage is right or wrong is not for me to say or judge but for you to think about. But what I offer you instead are simply my results (while statistically insignificant, are nonetheless based on statistics) from analyzing this underlying ranking bias in the Photography section so that you may, if you wish, use this information to your advantage. If we're all informed then we're all on even playing grounds then that's what's fair...right?
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These are the categories you can submit to in order to gain a ranking advantage under dA's fair exposure policy based on the statistics collected from gaming. Interestingly, the effects of switching between categories (the jumps in ranking) take place in as little as 5 minutes though sometimes can take as long as half an hour.
The results (for Photography section only):
Non-competitve and algorithm preferred categories (categories that seem to be given a preference or bias in the algorithm; simply switching to these categories will often cause a substantial jump in ranking)
1. Architecture
2. Horror & Macabre
3. Abstract & Surreal
Non-competitve and algorithm neutral categories (categories where it's easier to get ranked 1st in the category simply due to the lack of other deviations competing for the same spot thereby making it easier to appear on front page)
1. Urban & Rural
2. Transportation
3. Still Life
4. Darkroom
5. Conceptual
6. Miscellaneous
Highly competitive but algorithm preferred categories (being even 5th in these categories will often result in a higher ranking than being 1st in categories such as Macro despite otherwise similar statistics)
1. People & Portraits
2. Animal, Plants & Nature
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Common strategies I've seen from others:
1. Miscategorizing temporarily into Resources (also highly noncompetitive and algorithm preferred) to gain a ranking edge and then switching out a few hours or days later
2. Miscategorizing temporarily into Artisan Crafts (also highly noncompetitive and algorithm preferred)
3. Miscategorizing temporarily into Customization
Particularly for the photography category:
1. Submitting absolutely everything into Miscellaneous, Digital Darkroom, or Conceptual (the primary strategy for discrete gaming)
2. Using less competitive categories as "stepping stones" to reaching section front pages but then switching to a more correct category once reaching the general front page to avoid drawing negative attention
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The good news:
(Most) people won't fav crap. Particularly in less competitive categories, sub-quality snapshots with only a few favs may manage to make it onto front page. During its time on front page, lots of people may view the deviation, but very few (<1%) will actually fav the deviation. This low conversion rate of viewers to fav-ers suggests that although being on front page means reaching a larger audience, if your work isn't "good", then people will realize that and just move along. So at the end of the day, working hard and improving your art is still the most important contributing factor towards gaining exposure and popularity.
The better news:
You don't have to game to take advantage of the system. Just try out a different genre! Do Horror photography. Do Architectural photography. Then submit to that category. Legit! Try something new.
The bad news:
Transparency in gaming is more of a detriment than benefit. A few deviants along with myself have been playing the categories game very transparently, primarily as a means of raising awareness but also of course while collecting statistics. I have also noticed others playing extremely blatantly though never admitting to such gaming. The unfortunate trend seems to be that people are hesitant to accuse others of "wrongdoing" (ie. gaming), but some are more than willing to judge others for the "wrongdoings" they've admitted to committing. So there is really little positive reinforcement for transparency or trying to get people informed. On the contrary, the most positive reinforcement comes from keeping others in the dark. But most just don't care. And perhaps that's the worst news…
Good news? Bad news? You decide:
Gaming works. Consider the analysis below.
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A tale of two photos:
Both of flower macros. Both of comparably high quality. One submitted into Macro. The other switched around all categories to gain a ranking advantage.
Roughly 1 hour into the game, our macro photo is at 37 favorites and 101 views for a conversion rate of 0.37, ranking 1st in Macro 8 Hours but only 60th in Photography 8 Hours. Our switch-y photo is currently 1st in Miscellaneous 8 Hours and is slightly behind at 28 favorites and 81 views for a comparable conversion rate of 0.35, yet ranking 30th in Photography 8 Hours.
Our switch-y photo switched to Abstract&Surreal, suddenly jumping from 60th to 25th in Photography 8 Hours. It is then switched again to Architecture, suddenly jumping from 25th to 6th in Photography 8 Hours where it stayed for the rest of its "24 hour potential front page life span" while our macro photo simply stays in the same category.
18 hours later, our switch-y photo is 1st on the general 24 hour front page with 1,230 favs and 5,511 views for a conversion rate of 0.22. Our macro photo is 70th on the general 24 hour front page with 163 favs and 731 views for a conversion rate of also 0.22.
163 favs and 731 views is still a lot to be appreciative for. But at the same time, based on the trajectories of both deviations, I'm of the opinion that if our macro photo had been the one to get switched around, it too would've been able to achieve >1000 favs and >5000 views. But it was simply never given that opportunity.
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So should you play the categories game? At this point, I really don't know anymore.
On the one hand, there does seem to be something rather devious with gaming a system to your advantage and subsequently presumably to the detriment of others. But on the other hand, when we've put so much time, effort, thought and passion into our artworks, it's disheartening when they are seemingly denied of an opportunity for greater exposure, not because people don't like our artworks, but because we failed to submit them into a more advantageous category. At the same time, there's no denying that people are playing. So if everybody's doing it, why can't we?
So until the system, until dA, changes to prevent this categories game, you can debate and decide for yourself: Will you play the categories game?
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Perhaps as with economics and politics, the system is geared so that the rich get richer by exploiting these loopholes while the rest are left in the dark. But if more people know, then more people can lobby and demand for change. However, sadly, in all these settings, most people just don't seem to care. People don't care to notice. Less care to get informed. So if people don't care, then why should dA?
And so the psychopaths continue to exploit the loopholes of the system as well as the apathy of the masses.
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Comments: 43
PemaMendez [2013-12-24 18:39:13 +0000 UTC]
I do think it's wrong because of what you mentioned, keeping others "in the dark" ,and system exploiting isn't ever fair-game per se; it used to bother me back when I was on this website merely from bragging and being a popular kid. but nowadays I care more about the job opportunities, the forums, and my portfolio rather than the gallery stats, yet still, I think this should be fixed
now, I came here to get informed because I just saw a "friend" play this game by submitting to customization to get in the front page and then putting the deviation in the right category exactly 8 hours later to keep pushing his time on the front page, shame on him, and I admit it bothers me because I draw a tiny bit better, but oh well, like I said, I'm here for the portfolio and work I don't even have time to manage it anyway since I'm a college zombie.
time to search for a new art network
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Rauska [2012-04-19 10:48:55 +0000 UTC]
Comforting writing from the parts I read
I think a fair system would only appeal to a select few [good or bad artists], cant please everyone at the end of the day.
This "game" seems like a headache and spreading work over many sites would be better, rather than worrying about what happens on one site.
It's just that extra bit of work I think some artist have done to become successful.
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KayleighJune [2012-04-15 01:52:43 +0000 UTC]
This is such a frustrating thing to deal with, sometimes I wonder why I'm still on DeviantART. One of the main points for me posting my work here is to gain more exposure for my work. So if only a select few of my watchers are viewing my work, why am I still posting?
I know a lot of people feel the same way, but it seems like their thoughts toward the topic are constantly being ignored, which is sad really.
I'm not trying to sound unappreciative of the watchers/favs I already have, I just think there's not really much point posting here when I can be using other sites such as 500px and Flickr to gain new exposure for my work. I don't like to think of posting here as a game, but unfortunately that's exactly what it is right now.
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JeanFan In reply to KayleighJune [2012-04-15 02:03:43 +0000 UTC]
Well said
You'd think that dA would want to listen to the inputs of good artists such as yourself since good artists are what keeps this site alive by populating it with actual art.
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KayleighJune In reply to JeanFan [2012-04-15 02:23:34 +0000 UTC]
I'm just glad someone like yourself was brave enough to speak up about it!
It's annoying when people's opinions on this are getting shot down because they're percieved as 'already too popular,' it really doesn't have anything to do with that. It's stating a fact, and people should start to realise that it's not just popular artists who are being disadvantaged by this, it's everyone.
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JeanFan In reply to KayleighJune [2012-04-15 18:45:29 +0000 UTC]
If anything, I think it's the masses, good decent people who don't game, who are being disadvantaged by this.
Haha I actually expected to get heat from those I've seen gaming for "revealing their secrets" or something. But ironically, I'm getting sass from the people I thought I was helping by informing them. For some reason they don't want word to get out since they think it'll encourage more gaming. Way to keep each other in the dark I guess.
Can't solve a problem if you don't allow people to acknowledge it.
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AFineWar [2012-04-14 17:03:57 +0000 UTC]
Does this only go for Photography or is this the category you talk about because it is the one you know most about? Is it people mis-categorizing photos in the resources category and then switching them out or mis-categorizing actual resources in a category that isn't as competitive?
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JeanFan In reply to AFineWar [2012-04-15 18:48:08 +0000 UTC]
I just happen to pay attention to Photography most. I've heard it's way worse in the Digital Art section though.
Some people are just miscatting everything temporarily into resources or artisan crafts or other less competitive and more algorithm preferred categories to gain an edge. And you can't report them because dA takes way too long to respond and by then, they would've switched to the right category.
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leelloor [2012-04-14 12:25:46 +0000 UTC]
Yes, you are right, I just tried this thing out. What a shame that deviantART is not fair.
Well, we can't do much against it, even if we tell the staff.
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Hixateez [2012-04-14 09:26:29 +0000 UTC]
I'm not all that happy about this game, because I think it just creates... Confusion. In my opinion.
But wait, if DA staff is aware of this, why haven't thay said a word concerning this matter? At least I haven't noticed that they'd even lifted a finger to do something about this. Or maybe they don't think there's a problem here... Ugh, I'm so confused.
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JeanFan In reply to Hixateez [2012-04-14 15:13:27 +0000 UTC]
dA is aware. But why should dA care if most people don't care? Why lift a finger is no one is pressuring you to lift it?
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avalanchepark [2012-04-14 01:34:32 +0000 UTC]
well , now I see I was missing significant background when I commented on 'Apathy'.
In this case I guess the question is how many folks here are primarily focused on exposure growth and how many are here to get feedback and interaction (or learn by example).
Also could be true that the underpinnings of the system aren't widely understood so people who might care are not informed. If that is the case your effort to bring it to light will be worth it in the end. I just don't have a clue how the deviantart population sorts out in these two outlooks
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azeemb [2012-04-13 22:04:37 +0000 UTC]
hehehe
i kind of played this game
but after a while , view and favs don't really matter
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Quirkilicious [2012-04-13 20:27:30 +0000 UTC]
And for everyone who's not a photographer, submit to "Anime/Manga" and "Fanart"
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NumptyMcPillock [2012-04-13 20:19:53 +0000 UTC]
I had absolutely no idea that there was even a front page, let-alone a ranking system. What is it even for?...Actually don't tell me 'cos i honestly don't want to know about such BS.
I'll stick to my tried & tested formula of uploading & hoping i put them in the right categories so if people want to have a butchers then they can, or ignore it if they choose.
Why does everything have to be a competition popularity contest nowadays? What happened to modesty & wanting to be respected on merit, rather than feigning modesty & demanding respect for doing nothing?
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JeanFan In reply to NumptyMcPillock [2012-04-13 20:25:09 +0000 UTC]
If you think it's wrong, then get informed, voice your opinions, and do something. Your ignorance is just as much to their advantage as the gaming itself.
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NumptyMcPillock In reply to JeanFan [2012-04-14 11:58:48 +0000 UTC]
I've personally got more important things to worry about in life than some saddo's wanting to win a poularity contest, such as a hospitalised sister.
I'm not being ignorant, i just prioritise what is important.
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seeinglight [2012-04-13 20:06:06 +0000 UTC]
A game, really? This is an art website. I come here to be inspired, to look at and enjoy good quality art from around the world. I submit my work here so that it may be veiwed by, and inspire others, and so that I may learn something from those who are more talented than I.
I do not believe this should be a 'game'. It annoys me greatly that people are taking advantage of what was supposed to make deviantART more fair, and I have no problem commenting on people's work when it is in the wrong section, asking them to move it.
I think a popular artist like yourself is doing more harm then good by 'informing' people of this. They will just exploit it more, making it more unfair for artists like myself.
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PavSys In reply to seeinglight [2012-04-13 20:29:10 +0000 UTC]
She's not doing harm by exposing this information. She's revealing the truth. What you do as a contributor to this community makes a difference to the quality for all. The users and admins need to know this.
The same inappropriate behavior is occurring on other sites as well such as youtube and many others. Things wont change unless we do.
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JeanFan In reply to seeinglight [2012-04-13 20:14:44 +0000 UTC]
Then write to dA! Voice your outrage! Sadly, most people are just completely apathetic. If you want to prevent exploitation, get dA to closed the loophole. Get informed. Get moving. Do something.
So you would rather be left in the dark? It's like Allegory of the Cave IRL.
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seeinglight In reply to JeanFan [2012-04-13 20:23:48 +0000 UTC]
*I* wouldn't rather be left in the dark, because I know I won't abuse this knowledge. However, many of your watchers will.
And yes, I do plan to write to DA.
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JeanFan In reply to seeinglight [2012-04-13 20:59:56 +0000 UTC]
Aren't you one of my watchers? How am I supposed to know you're not like my "other watchers"? How am I supposed to know who to leave in the dark and who to bring to the light? Either everyone gets informed or nobody does. And I'd rather everyone get informed.
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Exillior [2012-04-13 19:56:17 +0000 UTC]
Also, isn't this abuse of the system?
"The deviantART staff will not tolerate attempts to exploit or disrupt the layout, navigability, or general use of the site. [...] We will issue no warnings for violations of this nature. Violators will be banned immediately upon the discovery of the disruption or abuse."
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JeanFan In reply to Exillior [2012-04-13 20:05:53 +0000 UTC]
I haven't seen them do anything about it so far even though CVs have noticed. I assume the phrase you quoted is referring to code related scripts that disrupt the use of the site not necessarily taking advantage of the parameters of the site itself. But even if it was applied, to the categories game, it would only apply to the constant switching between categories. Just submitting to a less competitive category likely wouldn't apply since a lot of the times, it's really hard to say who's playing. Who's to say that flower isn't really "conceptual" or whatnot. Plus there's already reports for miscats. Not like any of mine have been responded to though...
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Exillior In reply to JeanFan [2012-04-13 20:34:07 +0000 UTC]
I think that any accusation has to be proved, and simply pointing out that somebody's filed their deviation in the wrong gallery does not prove that they are doing what this journal describes.
However, if they show somewhere that they are doing this, I think they may well be making themselves liable to being banned. Just because a rule hasn't been applied yet doesn't mean it won't be.
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JeanFan In reply to Exillior [2012-04-13 20:57:23 +0000 UTC]
Haha well if I get banned, then you'll know that this rule's been applied.
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Exillior In reply to JeanFan [2012-04-13 20:59:32 +0000 UTC]
Please don't get banned. I like your works too much.
On a serious note, don't. I was permabanned once, and it's kind of... permanent. While it lasts, of course. XD By which I mean, you can't make another account and start off new.
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Thiefoworld In reply to Exillior [2012-04-13 22:25:17 +0000 UTC]
you? banned? XD
Now I'm intrigued
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Exillior In reply to Thiefoworld [2012-04-13 22:39:56 +0000 UTC]
How did you miss that dramatic episode in July last year?
I'd just posted a big "My exams are over, I'm back" journal after my 6-month hiatus... and then as I was replying to a comment on that journal, I found out I was banned. Apparently my younger brother had, in my absence, blocked this account... and I had created a joke account !anonycunt to post a thread on the forums (`ctJemm and I thought it'd be funny to pretend I'd meant to create an account called ~anonycount and had made a typo, and then post an "oh no!!!" thread in the Complaints forum) and I must have commented to my younger brother via the !anonycunt account at some point (since I commented to pretty much every forum frequenter). Apparently my brother had reported me for being a dangerous harasser who is spreading vile rumours that he's a guy while he's actually an innocent woman with an hourglass figure - and I'd proved my terrible behaviour by creating an alternate account to continue harassing him. Result, I was banned. I appealed, a bizarre process ensued (during which I was accused by a staff member of being the same person as my brother - because, clearly, I would want to get myself permabanned), and I was eventually unbanned.
And advised by the staff member not to tell anybody publicly on dA who my younger brother is. So if you haven't guessed by now, you'll have to ask me either privately or off dA, I guess.
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Thiefoworld In reply to Exillior [2012-04-14 02:44:17 +0000 UTC]
I think I remember.... something XD but I really had no idea of the magnitude of all this XD
And yes, I know who are you talking about
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Exillior In reply to Thiefoworld [2012-04-14 11:37:00 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, there aren't many guys with famous hourglass figures around on dA.
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Bio-Mortis [2012-04-13 19:46:08 +0000 UTC]
I wish they'd make catergories so much easier!
There are so many I just sort of guess my way through them if they sound close to what I think my artpiece is.
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NishitokyoGirl [2012-04-13 19:45:11 +0000 UTC]
I think I don't wanna win. This "game" is just sick.
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darkmag07 [2012-04-13 19:41:17 +0000 UTC]
It is interesting that the ratio between the favs/views is the same between both photos despite the fact that one was going through different categories and the other wasn't. Although I think it might be argued that a lot of people care more about total volume of traffic visiting the page than the ratio of favs/views.
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JeanFan In reply to darkmag07 [2012-04-13 19:45:26 +0000 UTC]
I generally use ratios as a means of assessing the quality of a piece. But I agree that more people care more about volume. Even if less than 1% of the viewing population likes their work, 1% of 10000 is still a substantial amount of people.
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darkmag07 In reply to JeanFan [2012-04-14 01:25:15 +0000 UTC]
I think a lot of people think about it with the goal of getting noticed. If you think that it only takes one recruiter to see your amazing work and get you into the big time with some prominent company it would make sense to try and get as many people to see your work as possible. In that sense, the dA community is just a means to an end and not an actual place that they care to take the time to be a part of.
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JamesMargerum [2012-04-13 19:31:27 +0000 UTC]
I wondered why I've been seeing so many digital paintings being temporarily posted in 3D by artists who should clearly know better.
Unfortunately this will only encourage more miscats from the people who insist that their MS paint/Muro/pencil drawings are 3D.
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JeanFan In reply to JamesMargerum [2012-04-13 19:44:19 +0000 UTC]
The solution to a broken system is to voice outrage and lobby for change. Not prevent information or knowledge in the hopes that less people will use the system to their own advantage.
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Exillior [2012-04-13 19:09:16 +0000 UTC]
... What is it really worth? I must be missing something here.
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JeanFan In reply to Exillior [2012-04-13 19:16:12 +0000 UTC]
If you have to ask, then it obviously wasn't
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