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Joazzz2 In reply to RougeStatus [2016-09-14 01:22:07 +0000 UTC]

i really dislike EC's Chaos Marines so please try to avoid that comparison

they're too clean, too shiny, too tabletop-like, their armour hath not the grimdark. I try to strike a good balance between neat and easy to take in, and corrupted and worn out.

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RougeStatus In reply to Joazzz2 [2016-09-14 02:15:01 +0000 UTC]

I was referring to the fact that you can make those shit models look good. Cuss chaos marines in EC are literally just regular marines but with horns on their helmet. 

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Wyzilla In reply to Joazzz2 [2016-09-14 01:40:14 +0000 UTC]

They're utter shit. They don't even look like tabletop marines, who are actually fairly bulky and almost have gorilla or dwarvish proportions compared to a normal human. I mean, look at the new painting set.

www.games-workshop.com/resourc…

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Joazzz2 In reply to Wyzilla [2016-09-14 01:51:55 +0000 UTC]

i see what you mean, by tabletop-like i was referring to their overly simplified surface detail  (or lack thereof) and plastic outlook. it's even worse when you remember that five years ago Relic came out with this awesomeness:

vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/s…

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Wyzilla In reply to Joazzz2 [2016-09-14 02:03:09 +0000 UTC]

What's worse is that both Behavior's and Relic's wish to make the models "look more like the tabletop" is full of shit (for EC and DOW3), because drybrushing makes models look gritty as hell.

2.bp.blogspot.com/-HoC9WYBf4iI…

All it is, is devs making excuses to make their workload smaller.

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Joazzz2 In reply to Wyzilla [2016-09-14 02:29:46 +0000 UTC]

aaaaah don't even get me started on DoW3's sorry excuse of an "art style"

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Wyzilla In reply to Joazzz2 [2016-09-14 04:05:35 +0000 UTC]

"We're such lazy gits, we can't even do things that casual modders and hobbyist 3D modelers do every day, for fun"

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BlueFlytrap998 In reply to Wyzilla [2016-09-16 06:47:21 +0000 UTC]

It's ok to not like it. To each their own.
But to ignore the host of issues that would arise had they taken another approach is just plain ignorance at best.

If you were even an amateur modeler you would know exactly why they chose the style they did.

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Wyzilla In reply to BlueFlytrap998 [2016-09-16 08:56:58 +0000 UTC]

No, they chose the style they did to dumb the game down and make units pop out from the background, along with saving them more work so they can just shovel the game out ASAP. The game would be fine even if they did so little as just port models from DOW 2, as they look leagues better even if their poly count and resolution is worse.

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BlueFlytrap998 In reply to Wyzilla [2016-09-16 16:30:12 +0000 UTC]

All I hear is 'I've never authored any game ready models in my life before.'

It is an awful idea to generate edgewear and leave proportions unexaggerated for low fidelity low screenspace pre-alpha models running on pbr. Especially when their engine is lacking environment lighting probes at a glance.
Wow it's almost like stuff isn't done yet. Imagine that.

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Joazzz2 In reply to warhammer2546 [2016-09-13 23:26:49 +0000 UTC]

Warp magic! and yes, more spikes are coming. i'll also try to implement stuff like flayed skin trophies and sneering daemonic faces. everything's in the early stages.

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Joazzz2 In reply to Wyzilla [2016-09-13 21:39:19 +0000 UTC]

yes, originally, with skeleton and hands (hand base anyway) from Space Marine

the amount of custom shit per model is starting to get rather ridiculous

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Joazzz2 In reply to brsfanmxy [2016-09-13 19:59:48 +0000 UTC]

oh yeah, i'll try to add both. maybe even make a separate model for corrupted marines, so people can have that extra variation.

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