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True-Solunar In reply to eeveeextreme [2012-07-06 16:15:52 +0000 UTC]

I'm saying a Rage-induced Extremespeed...

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mattwo In reply to eeveeextreme [2012-07-06 01:37:21 +0000 UTC]

More like a physical reverse hyper beam.

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True-Solunar In reply to mattwo [2012-07-06 16:14:20 +0000 UTC]

Actually Hyper Beam can be reversed with Counter, believe it or not...

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mattwo In reply to True-Solunar [2012-07-06 21:28:08 +0000 UTC]

That's not what I meant by reverse.

I meant something like solar beam but normal type.

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True-Solunar In reply to mattwo [2012-07-06 23:50:14 +0000 UTC]

You mean with the one-turn charge or the weather influence?

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mattwo In reply to True-Solunar [2012-07-07 01:01:13 +0000 UTC]

Hyper beam is shoot then charge.

Solar beam is charge then shoot.

I actually forgot that sunny weather removes the charge phase for solar beam, another reason I called it a reverse hyper beam I suppose.

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True-Solunar In reply to mattwo [2012-07-07 01:29:40 +0000 UTC]

Hyper Beam, Blast Burn, Hydro Cannon, and Frenzy Plant are technically shoot, then rest, because using that much energy that fast would wear you the FU*K out...
So your saying it's more like a faster, normal-type Doom Desire...

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mattwo In reply to True-Solunar [2012-07-07 02:52:32 +0000 UTC]

No.

I'm saying it'd be a reverse hyper beam.

Charge. Shoot.

Hyper Beam beam is: Shoot. Re-Charge.

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True-Solunar In reply to mattwo [2012-07-07 13:11:41 +0000 UTC]

That's what I was saying with a faster, normal-type Doom Desire... DD has like a 2 or 3 turn charge time... faster would mean reduce it to 1 turn... DD is normally steel-type so normal-type is self-explanatory... It's described as a burst of light in-game, but on the movie Jirachi's 3rd eye basically did a MAJOR Shoop Da Whoop... So it is basically Charge. Decimate ANYTHING in the way...

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mattwo In reply to True-Solunar [2012-07-07 19:26:41 +0000 UTC]

Doom Desire, and Future Sight for that mater use a completely different game mechanic.

Bulpadedia on doom desire: Although Doom Desire is a Steel-type attack, it will not take type into account, ignoring weaknesses, immunities and resistances. Therefore, it does not get STAB. Furthermore, Doom Desire cannot cause a critical hit.

Future Sight: Although Future Sight is a Psychic-type attack, it will not take type into account, ignoring weaknesses, immunities and resistances. Therefore, it is able to hit Dark-type foes and does not receive STAB. Furthermore, Future Sight cannot cause a critical hit and its damage is not increased by Life Orb.

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True-Solunar In reply to mattwo [2012-07-07 20:12:10 +0000 UTC]

Yeah... I forgot about that particular mechanic...

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