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MrTBSC In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 06:42:35 +0000 UTC]

.... you .. want to blow it out?

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BLIX-KREEG In reply to MrTBSC [2019-02-25 18:49:57 +0000 UTC]

Never....

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Black-VictorCachat In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 04:23:10 +0000 UTC]

...makes sense to me!
X-D

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A-Fox-Of-Fiction In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 04:21:46 +0000 UTC]

Yep, I can see them following that kinda logic.

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KhaoShar In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 04:21:15 +0000 UTC]

Rather amusing, indeed. There is caveat here though: No MAGA-hat-head does have the mental capacity to actually think it through to come to this conclusion. It is mutually exclusive.

Really, it is not that they necessarily lack the intelligence. But this breed of people mastered good ol' double-think to perfection long ago, latest since they learned that "'murica is the greatest country in the world (no mattter what the evidence to the contrary)".

I can only say, greetings from 1984. And it's not the only move they copied from that playbook either.

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Slenka In reply to KhaoShar [2019-02-16 06:24:54 +0000 UTC]

i agree with you on the MAGA hat wearers, the gears are present just they very rarely use them

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fred1009 In reply to KhaoShar [2019-02-16 05:11:57 +0000 UTC]

"I can only say, greetings from 1984. And it's not the only move they copied from that playbook either."

In all fairness, thoughtcrime is hardly unique to conservatism. I dislike much of modern liberalism because their obsession with identity politics, political correctness and the things that stem from it. You can look at the flap overΒ Liam Neeson admitting decades ago to having angry raciest thoughts as an example.

"Do you now or have you ever had a politically incorrect thought?" It's liberal McCarthyism. Β Β 

The fact that I dislike Trump does not mean that I am blind to the issues that got him into the White House.Β 

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MisterArtMaster101 In reply to fred1009 [2019-02-16 05:31:23 +0000 UTC]

Actually, 1984 is no longer relevant, as reality has proven it (oddly enough) wrong. What reality has proven right is Huxley and A Brave New World oddly enough. Then again, our technological context has upended a lotΒ of assumptions that we've assumed are right but are actually wrong.

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fred1009 In reply to MisterArtMaster101 [2019-02-16 05:53:51 +0000 UTC]

I see your point. Consider the increasing legalization of Marijuana and then recall Brave New World and the use of 'Soma'. As Greg Bear described in his Sci-Fi novel "Slant" It was a sane and perfect world. Almost.
Personally, I think the future world will look more like the movie "Bladerunner 2049" or any cyberpunk novel. Β  Β 

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MisterArtMaster101 In reply to fred1009 [2019-02-16 06:10:15 +0000 UTC]

No, the reality is that technology has shattered a lot of our preconceptions and annihilated our assumptions. People forgot that things like rights and freedoms are 'fluid' instead of static. Things like 'privacy' and 'freedom of information' are 'recent' constructs in general when looking at human history. Sadly those will go away no matter what we do either by sword or by will.

So, our future would probably end up either as a demented fusion of Anno 2070 with elements of Anno 2205, the setting of seaQuest, Ghost in the Shell, Patlabor, Front Mission, Battletech, pre-War Fallout, the pre-GENOCIDE Project era of GENOCIDE Man, and a whole lot more ORΒ a world where it goes 'Russian' (aka 'it gets worse')... as the best possible outcome.

Worst case scenarios? Do the words Earth 21X0 and complete biosphere extermination mean anything to you?

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fred1009 In reply to MisterArtMaster101 [2019-02-16 06:33:41 +0000 UTC]

My former primary care doctor once told me that in the long run the bacteria will win. Looking at the present trends we will be lucky if our future looks as good as "Ghost in the Shell", "New York 2140" or "Bladerunner". Β 
Nuff Said. Have a nice day.Β 

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MisterArtMaster101 In reply to fred1009 [2019-02-16 10:05:36 +0000 UTC]

No, what would kill humans would kill the biosphere. Completely. Also, the webcomic GENOCIDE Man is scary as our trajectory is too eerily similar to simply ignore. Also, Earth 21X0 series has the surface of the earth so contaminated from all the WMDs (particularly nukes) that all the people either live on the moon or on earth in bunkers.

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BlackBeWhite2k7 In reply to KhaoShar [2019-02-16 04:32:37 +0000 UTC]

"Triggering the libs" is the only consistent value trump supporters seem to adhere to

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MisterArtMaster101 In reply to BlackBeWhite2k7 [2019-02-16 10:06:21 +0000 UTC]

No, they also take a lot of the old CSA and nazi bits as well if you actually look at them.

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KaleGarrison In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 04:09:39 +0000 UTC]

Β 

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ENIMINEMOE In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 04:05:09 +0000 UTC]

Lol

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SonGoharotto In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 04:02:49 +0000 UTC]

The real joke, of course, is the implication that MAGATs are capable of anything which we ordinary human beings would recognize as a logical thought process.

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PWartenberg In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 04:01:44 +0000 UTC]

Mexico Called They Want Texas b...

(Mexico looks at how fucked up the United States is under trump)

Nevermind, Mexico just wants California now, maybe Oregon and Washington, thanks.

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fred1009 In reply to PWartenberg [2019-02-16 07:19:07 +0000 UTC]

When you compare the GDP of the PRK (Peoples Republik of Kalifornia) with Mexico, Russia or almost any other nation, one can understand their lust. Β 

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Omnoproxyl337 In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:58:50 +0000 UTC]

ey weyΒ 

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astrew In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:54:05 +0000 UTC]

Vivaa Mexico Cabrones

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nanaki505 In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:47:14 +0000 UTC]

Somehow true yet very confusing

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DBrentOGara In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:44:07 +0000 UTC]

I dunno... I kinda likeΒ it. I mean, who doesn't want a vacation in Mexico during the winter?

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Dao128 In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:40:39 +0000 UTC]

What MAGA trumptards actually think *the comic*.

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redneckdemon In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:30:00 +0000 UTC]

Changing the plan three years later?!Β  What is he THINKING?!

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PWartenberg In reply to redneckdemon [2019-02-16 04:02:38 +0000 UTC]

trump is always thinking "I MUST LOOK GOOD NO MATTER WHAT" and so he changes the Narrative at the drop of a MAGAhat.

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fred1009 In reply to PWartenberg [2019-02-16 07:24:33 +0000 UTC]

That's only if you consider the processes in Trump's mind "thinking". Simply listening to him talk makes me cringe. Β  Β 

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Slenka In reply to PWartenberg [2019-02-16 06:25:44 +0000 UTC]

incorrect Trump never thinks and, that is the problem

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Kibichan In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:19:01 +0000 UTC]

I welcome our new mexican overlords.

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Blaquepsmith In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:12:26 +0000 UTC]

You credit them with far too much self-awareness...

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OmegaZzyzx In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:08:43 +0000 UTC]

Truly, this is the darkest timeline...

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PoorKnigh In reply to OmegaZzyzx [2019-02-16 03:15:03 +0000 UTC]

Not yetΒ 

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XLRP In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:05:26 +0000 UTC]

Tequila for everyone.

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Chase-san In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 03:02:00 +0000 UTC]

At this point, i'll take it over Trump.

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ACEnBEAKY In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 02:56:19 +0000 UTC]

I'm not going to completely validate or dismiss either side's argument, but I will point out a few things that both sides seem to be ignoring.Β 
a) Most terrorists come in through Canada. I said "through" not "from."Β 
b) I really think that once it's all said and done, robots and automation will be the biggest threats to jobs. Immigration's threat will pale in comparison.
c) We probably wouldn't have an immigration crisis in the first place, or at least to the extent it is now, if our foreign policy in South America (including but not exclusively the war on drugs) and the Middle East in the past 20 to 40 years hadn't made so many immigrants to begin with. Overthrowing governments in both South America and the ME created power vacuums for drug cartels and Wahabist Radicals to fill in, perhaps by design since our CIA helped create and fund those entities to fight somebody we didn't like. We're getting blow back from both areas in the form of immigration because our attempts at playing Risk with other countries under the guise of fighting communism and radical Islam. What we ended up doing was overthrowing secular or at least reasonable governments, many who had the potential to become, were becoming, or were already at least somewhat secular and democratic. We funded terrorists and propped up dictators that usually ended up being worse in the long run than the initial threat we were afraid of.Β 
I'm just saying regardless of either side's argument, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and probably a lot of this grief could have been avoided. Also, we shouldn't let ourselves be so consumed with one aspect of the problem at hand that we don't check our collective 6 for problems potentially more dangerous as a side result, esp for the simple fact the media and talking heads just found convenient to ignore it.Β 
d) although I am against illegal immigration, immigrants don't technically steal jobs. Corrupt business owners know they can black mail desperate people who are illegal (or just desperate) by TAKING your job and giving it to them, but at lower pay, less benefits, harder work, etc. (exploiting them) You can get mad at those who came over illegally for breaking the law, but if you "lose" your job to one, I think you should be more angry at the business boss you were working for.Β 
If your boss is heartless enough to do this immoral and illegal thing, getting mad at the illegal is like getting mad at a prostitute that your husband solicited on a business trip. Your husband goes to another town or state, solicits a prostitute who may or may not have a choice in the matter, and you're more mad at the third neutral party than the person you made a contract with that owes you at least some loyalty. I hear enough people blaming the immigrants but not the business owners.
We have a problem in America where we seem to strain out a gnat and swallow a camel. We talk down to, say, a prostitute (and it is immoral and illegal, it is wrong, but even if she's a victim of human trafficking we rarely take that into account) but we worship the Pimp who is much more guilty and in charge of the sordid business. I'm using these examples as an analogy. I feel like America is becoming like that crowd that wanted to stone the woman caught in adultery but the man was nowhere to be found. In that scenario both parties involved should be punished but one is fanatically singled out while the other gets a free pass, even if he might be way more guilty.Β 

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ACEnBEAKY In reply to ACEnBEAKY [2019-02-16 23:07:46 +0000 UTC]

Another thing to consider is what direction the barbed wire fence will be facing.Β 
Our government is buying thousands of hollowpoint rounds, militarizing the police, purchasing coffins, making what look like concentration camps, and doing military drills near major cities (you train the way you fight). I'm not saying the wall is mean't to be used to be the outer shell of a police state usa prison, but even if it wasn't it sure is set up that way to be easily hijacked into that. Our police are already looking like stormtroopers, our schools already like prisons, people are adopting a medieval mindset and authority worshippers are coming out of the woodwork.Β 

Another thing to keep in the back of your mind, sort of a "strain out a gnat but swallow a camel" thing, is that even if illegal immigrants brought a considerable amount of crime and job loss, really we have bigger problems and threats that basically come from the up down. So even if the people scared shitless of immigrants are right, what they're afraid of, what we're made to pay attention, serves as an aweful convenient distraction to what our government is doing, and the fact that they, with our consent through ignorance, probably caused all these problems in the first place, therefore making us despise the symptom of the ill while ignoring the source. Our government and rich elites live on divide and conquer, distract and deceive, fear mongering, and ordo abdum chaos (order out of chaos aka problem, reaction, solution). Americans are sounding more and more like reluctant totalitarians that are getting closer and closer to gradually accepting a more subtle, Americanized Nazi Germany or Soviet Union. Probably a much milder version but still.Β 
We're also allowing fear and one sided exaggerations of our problems let us become nasty cowards who lose their morals.Β 
I'm saying that the government is the robber throwing a juicy steak of fear (OMG Mexicans, omg Muslims) as a distraction to the watch dog so he can come in and jack our shit. When the government and corporate media are getting super hyped up to be scared about something to where that's all you can think about and it's making your start to blame somebody who in all likely is a fellow victim, or a freedom that we shouldn't lose, ask yourself "what are they trying to distract me from?"



And one thing that might be a hard pill to swallow: we probably deserve this. We're paying for our sins, the consequences of our actions. Even if it's not divine retribution, even if we are not punished for our sins, we are punished by our sins, and the sins of our fathers and elites. Chickens are coming home to roost and we need to stop blaming others for what we basically either did or allowed out of pride, greed, and hatred.Β 

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skyounkinzero In reply to ACEnBEAKY [2019-02-16 04:33:12 +0000 UTC]

Most terrorists in this country are born here IN America....

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fred1009 In reply to ACEnBEAKY [2019-02-16 03:45:37 +0000 UTC]

"You can get mad at those who came over illegally for breaking the law, but if you "lose" your job to one, I think you should be more angry at the business boss you were working for."

I wonder what the immigration people would find if they started looking at farmworkers in Iowa. Remember Molly Tibbits? The guy who was charged with her murder was an illegal working on a farm owned by a prominent Republican family. What kind of background check did the farm managers actually make on this guy? The reason we have a illegal immigration problem is that for decades politicians on both sides have looked the other way. Β Β 

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Joybuzzer In reply to ACEnBEAKY [2019-02-16 03:20:34 +0000 UTC]

I think people blame the owners as well.Β  However, the sad reality is, the owner also has the job they want.Β  Owner goes away, no job.Β  Someone else may take it over, but then someone else may not.

There's other ways the owners will screw people over though.Β  Like with ego.Β  Like construction work were the boss will pay just a tad over local fast food, but work you 10x harder, with them saying, "What?Β  You'd rather work at McDonalds?"Β  That plays on a lot of people's ego's who'd rather say they work construction, than work fast food, even if it pays the same.


Other problems people don't want to talk about is the boys club mentality.Β  Note, this isn't about being male, but just being in the circle of friends.Β  Nothing like a company that the only way one can get promoted is being drinking/hunting/whatever buddies with the bosses.

I've never met anyone, however, that really went "Illegal Immigration is stealing my job" they do however, want an end to illegal immigration.Β  It's illegal.Β  Come in legally.Β  And people who felt the crime in the area was from illegal immigrants.Β  Now, all know, not all crime is from illegal immigrants.Β  However, people will see it as lessening the crime if they're gone.

As someone who is friends with quite a few legal immigrants (and yes, all from south of the border), I can say they're pretty evenly split on the wall (so this is just personal experience) however, all of them believe "If I had to do it legally, so should they."

Some of those asylum seekers, are also skipping over countries to come here and not even trying in the countries they go through.Β  Skipping over Mexico for the US for instance.

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RSquared-DA In reply to Joybuzzer [2019-02-16 07:27:17 +0000 UTC]

Another aspect is that the people who run the business tell their employees that work harder and more dangerous jobs when fast food workers demand higher and livable wages that those fast food would be making more than them. They do it to distract their employees from fighting for higher wages so that their employees focus their anger on the fast food workers.

It's the same tactic rich southern plantation owners did to the poorer farm owners during the time of slavery, saying that the north was coming for their land and that they needed to fight the north, when in reality it was the rich plantation owners protecting their way of life because they didn't want to lose their slaves.

It's the same thing now, the people with the power and money are saying that the immigrants (illegal or legal) are coming for the jobs of American workers, when that's not true, it's automation, machines and robots taking over those jobs. The truth is, America has gone from producing goods to providing services and unfortunately for most, those jobs require more knowledge than your average factory or construction worker.

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Joybuzzer In reply to RSquared-DA [2019-02-16 23:55:40 +0000 UTC]

And require less people.Β  I've always said, as tech advances, they need less people to do the jobs.

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RSquared-DA In reply to Joybuzzer [2019-02-17 09:39:36 +0000 UTC]

We're getting closer and closer to the Jetsons when it comes to jobs, all George Jetson did was arrive at work to turn on the sprocket plant. The only humans there were George and Spacely the rest was done by the computer RUDI.

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fire238 In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 02:50:50 +0000 UTC]

Β‘Madre de dios!

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Retsnom45 In reply to fire238 [2019-02-16 03:33:36 +0000 UTC]

que chingawhat?

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fire238 In reply to Retsnom45 [2019-02-16 06:47:55 +0000 UTC]

Β‘Mierda santa!

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niauropsaka In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 02:50:05 +0000 UTC]

I know, right?

I think I said something like this on Twitter once. I know I thought it.

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Kyuuyula In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 02:43:34 +0000 UTC]

*realization intensifies*


Meanwhile, in the comments section:

[insert picture of any/all Trump Supporters without a sense of humor]

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DragonGladi8or In reply to Kyuuyula [2019-02-16 02:55:58 +0000 UTC]

Have you seen the Left? WHOOOOOOOWEEE! With what has been shown thus far, They have neither a sense nor an appreciation of a real one.

However, I find the post entertaining, but I admit I don't entirely get it.

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Kyuuyula In reply to DragonGladi8or [2019-02-16 03:53:02 +0000 UTC]

True. Humor isn't a skill many people have these days (which is already sad enough tbh).

Well, both sides have their nut-cases I guess. Not that that's new or anything. I see that in my home country too, they have no sense of humor either but usually shut their mouths since everything is so mild over here and they at least try to act mature. Or they just have nothing good to say in return. XD


It basically boils down to: Trump said Mexico pays for the wall -> Trump never ever lies -> Now US pays for the wall which means US is Mexico.

Basically just what's written down and likely what some really, reeeaaally big idiots would believe with a satire-twist to it since I doubt anyone would really have this type of thinking IRL.

Just a basic joke. Not a big one, but I guess it would qualify for old style humor? I've seen tons of jokes like this ages ago. And it's not like jokes require to be ultra witty and mysterious: Simple is good. Tho I guess it depends on what you prefer in the end. ^^

I personally like short, simple and stupid jokes like this tho.

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WraithKate In reply to ??? [2019-02-16 02:33:32 +0000 UTC]

Wow... so much butthurt in the comment section, eh jollyjack? Seriously these people can't take a political joke... and they call us snowflakesΒ  Β 



Anyways, once again you lighten my day by making me laugh, so Thanks and keep doing you!

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