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Published: 2015-11-14 11:46:39 +0000 UTC; Views: 53468; Favourites: 1947; Downloads: 456
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I don't think the people conducting these attacks quite understand: on an individual level, for those directly caught up in the event, terrorism is as harrowing and tragic an experience as any other act of aggression, but collectively, no one here gives a sh*t. Why? Because Europe was the birthplace of Industrial Warfare. Random killings don’t achieve anything. Small minded fools with delusions of grandeur who think killing a few civilians and then dying themselves will somehow benefit their cause are just seen as an irritation.Take the 2005 bombings in London, for example. More people were pissed off because the Tube was shut down rather than because an act of terror had just happened in the capital.
Picking up a gun and shooting lots of unarmed people before you yourself are taken down doesn't make you special. Anyone can do it and at the end of it, you’re dead, so the problem has essentially solved itself. The infrastructure you’re blaming for all the evils in the world is still fully functional because it’s never military or industrial targets that are attacked. It’s not “warfare”, it’s just random violence, and that’s easy for a nation to shrug off.
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I am refering to groups such as the Greek Golden dawn party and other far right parties who are gainning power on an anti-semetic ,anti-UN, and anti immigrant ticket
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So am I one of very few Europeans who care more about people getting killed than places being damaged?
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No because the damage can be repaird but live can't be replaced
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Yeah. The most they're actually doing is causing most people to become even more frustrated with them, as well as giving the bigots of the world a reason to hate Islam and its related peoples.
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I had a feeling you had something to say on this. I'm inclined to agree, except French jets just went to the trouble of bombing Syria.
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Presumably that would be the metaphorical equivalent of a flea collar.
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Who actually benefits from the vilification of Islam? ISIS are just a band of idiot patsies.
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Can you imagine the panic that this would be causing had it happened in the states? It's awful that it happened anywhere, but I'm glad that it happened in a country that has some brain cells in regards to how to respond to shit like this. (Not losing its mind and going ballistic over it.)
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Would of caused ww3 because murica would of Fucking nuked there asses
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Two months, or even two weeks from now, the media will once again be filled with celebrity gossip and that circus we U.S. folks call an election. For those not affected (and my heart goes out to those that were), this is little more than a couple days of sensational news coverage and irritation at having Paris holidays canceled, but really little else. The western world marches on, ultimately unfazed.
It's cruel, and honestly I don't WANT to agree with you, Jolly, but dammit if you don't make a compelling, though brutally blunt, point. But that's what I love ya for.
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I love how pot belly that bulldog is.
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I never thought to look at it that way, and I think you might be very, very right.
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I agree too.
I know that we should care about our fellow human beings
when something horrible happens.
BUT with over 7 billion human beings on this planet and only 1 of you.
It would be pointless to divide your attention and caring capabilities to
every single person effected by this event. let alone the victims of past tragedies!
Ask yourself what is the better choice? Would you...
Give one Australian dollar to one family who lost a loved one during this attack?
Or give one hundred Australian pennies to one hundred families who lost a loved one during this attack?
You can only be caring to a limit!
Did I go off topic? I think I went off topic.
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Australians use pennies?
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Well... I was going to say U.S. dollars and pennies. But then I looked at your DA profile and saw that your from Australia.
So I changed the comment from U.S. currency to Australian currency.
...OK. So my knowledge of foreign currency is not up to par.
But the comment is the same.
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I think you're wrong. I know what you mean, but the signal you're giving is a devastating one. How the uninformed, the apathic or the cretins cope with crisises is meaningless. And the day when we accept so violent a killing, the brutal loss of more than 120 lives as but an irritation to shrug off is the day when we become like the Islamic State for they do not value lives either.
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I don't think that's what he means. He means that, as far as accomplishing anything worthwhile, throwing the nation itself off balance, these attacks do nothing but focus us on them. Of course there will be friends and family to mourn, and they will be. Properly. In the meantime, however, their little act of violence does nothing to the giants they are trying to bring down.
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ISIS just kicked a hornet's nest. Germany is already declaring its support for France. If England does the same, then ISIS will be facing the three most powerful nations in Europe, not including Russia. English, French, and German involvement might be enough to force the U.S. to commit additional forces to the campaign. Put simply, ISIS is screwed.
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ISIS has one major advantage that people tend to forget....They look like innocent people. All countries refuse to deal with terrorists...because we can't figure out who is innocent and who isn't until they do something dangerous. I'm honestly not that nice....if I could, I'd simply, say....make Afghanistan a smoking hole in the ground. Suddenly terrorism seems less attractive an option, if there's a giant hole made out of the whole country the last terrorists were in. Instead, the US decides to make our men and women into walking targets over there, since we can't be sure who is or isn't a terrorist until they start shooting.
Even if we refuse to just level the country, we should at least have left by now, instead of making ourselves look more foolish and wasting more lives fruitlessly.
I'm very tired of the US government acting like we're nice. We're not a nice country. Almost every country in the world has a reason to hate us. A good reason, too. That's part of why we keep such a large military. There's a fair chance we could beat the EU in a war....but we keep acting like we're weak, or just insanely over-nice. We're not. We're jerks, and we know it, and we'll shoot anyone who argues with us. Act like it, for god's sake.
I think I may have gotten off topic.....Meh.
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And yet our politicans are trying to sell us this "war" they're pretending this was the start of. The problem with the france atomic plant a few years back was more intimidating in my point of view.
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But here's the problem:
What you said is true. And it makes perfect sense. And this will (mostly) just piss off Europe. But this is the LOGICAL conclusion.
But these motherfraking sons of dead roaches don't CARE. They are, one and all, a gang of psycopaths, who only know kill-kill-kill. And logic doesn't work with them.
"Killing doesn't work? We need to kill more!"
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Soo true! There's always going to be that some body who kills another. It happens all the time. You can't save every one. But you might as well prevent it from happening in the first place.
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Well at least it gives people a chance to show how great they are on social media, by pretending to care about people they didn't know existed before they were shot.
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Over 100 dead, 300 some injured.... Whether it's treated as Violence or not, ISIS is starting a world war. Would be funny-ish to see actually, they acting as a small faction vs. America, the people the terrorize out in the middle East and the now enraged France. It's like comparing the odds in a race of finesse where you got the fat guy being Isis and everyone else being the 3 gold medal olympic runner.
Seriously though, I respect those dead at most and hope whatever revenege they seek will be just.
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The direct killing isn't the bad part of terrorism. It's the fear that gets instilled by it and just increased by media outlets.
Terrorists have two aims: instill fear and get media presence for marketing reasons.
Both things get increased by media.
The problem that rises from this is the biggest one: People are scared. No matter if politicians or people on the street. And scared people make mistakes.
The scared politician will create new rules to further decrease life quality of normal citizens.
The scare people on the street will see enemys in everyone who might have the same believes, come from the same country or was born into the same family as the terrorists.
Fear makes people blind to what is important. And important is, just like you said, make terrorists feel that they are just a minor inconvenience.
THEY can't threaten our way of life, our peace, our friendship and unity.
But out of fear WE our self threaten our way of life. The peace in our cities and neighborhoods.
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Didn't the refugee or immigrant camp or something in France get set on fire by angry civilians? I would say that, if true, terrorism does have it's fallout beyond the individual murderers.
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I comepletely agree with your Opinion. Also I am damm pissed off of the new Meme that appeared with the 'Pray for Paris'. Will this shit make anything better in France? Will Facebook Profile pics with smiling people in the colours of the french flag change something? No. It's just to calm everbodys damm conscience and that it seems like they would fucking care. I know the girls i have been in class with and they probably never talk about this again. It's just some stupid trend to let your Facebook Profile look like your social and care about others. Good Illusion about nobody cares.
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it is something that helps people overlook the tragedy by thinking it helps, while we all know in reality it doesn't help at all in my opinion
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Oh jolly jack, you and your silly political drawings that piss off everyone but the rational thinkers <3 "oh boy, free bait!"
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You are right from a purely pragmatic approach. But I think, on a more emotional level, it's a little more painful than a flea bite. But I can totally respect where you're coming from.
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Haha, excellent !
And thank you for your drawing.
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I think what annoys me about the attacks from what I've seen is that people are too busy with politics that don't even relate to the attacks(they make it seem like it does) and I don't see many people that even care about theses actual attacks
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In some way you are right, but killing thousands of people is not the main goal of terrorists. The main goal is to seed fear in people's mind, so that they will feel insecure in their own land. When you are at war with someone, it's pretty easy to say, who is your enemy and where. But with terrorists, who can easily infiltrate and stay unnoticed, that is much harder. So they really don't need to do second Holocaust or whatnot. 100-200 victims is enough for them to create the atmosphere of fear and insecurity.
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Here in China a lot of people call the tragedy in Paris "just another trendy thing going on in the West". Talk about widespread apathy these days.........
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Please don't encourage them to attack industrial targets – they might hit a nuclear power plant next time.
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Osama bin Laden's goal was not to kill relative handfuls of people, but to get nations and their military-industrial complexes embroiled in wars until those nations pissed away their blood and treasure.
The more ignorant Americans tell themselves that Ronald Reagan (somehow) single-handedly vanquished the Soviet Union with chest-thumping, but the USSR being mired in Afghanistan had much more to do with it. And even knowing that, we couldn't wait for our turn to jump in. All we needed was an excuse, a little push. After all, wars are very profitable, in the short term, for individuals--and for some people that's all that matters. (Right, Dick Cheney?)
And of course, most of our presidential candidates are even now promising to save the world from terrorist bombs by bombing the shit out of it, and maintaining the very same conditions that help those terrorists recruit new members. And idiots love it.
So, yeah, it's no big deal...until the day it hits close to home. Then all the it-didn't-happen-to-me, keep-calm-and-carry-on, good-men-do-nothing rhetoric evaporates like the empty Internet Tough Guy bravado that it is.
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I researched the attack and I only know that the terrorists allegidy said something about syria
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