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Description I don't think the people conducting these attacks quite understand: on an individual level, for those directly caught up in the event, terrorism is as harrowing and tragic an experience as any other act of aggression, but collectively, no one here gives a sh*t. Why? Because Europe was the birthplace of Industrial Warfare. Random killings don’t achieve anything. Small minded fools with delusions of grandeur who think killing a few civilians and then dying themselves will somehow benefit their cause are just seen as an irritation.
Take the 2005 bombings in London, for example. More people were pissed off because the Tube was shut down rather than because an act of terror had just happened in the capital.
Picking up a gun and shooting lots of unarmed people before you yourself are taken down doesn't make you special. Anyone can do it and at the end of it, you’re dead, so the problem has essentially solved itself. The infrastructure you’re blaming for all the evils in the world is still fully functional because it’s never military or industrial targets that are attacked. It’s not “warfare”, it’s just random violence, and that’s easy for a nation to shrug off.
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fuzzlewink In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 20:19:28 +0000 UTC]

make a dog with a pie in his hand

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Ninjaterrorist65 In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 20:02:03 +0000 UTC]

Got me curious now, What would america as a dog look like? 

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dimasbka In reply to Ninjaterrorist65 [2015-11-14 20:30:33 +0000 UTC]

Pug possible, but definitely very very fat

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RayBro16 In reply to Ninjaterrorist65 [2015-11-14 20:30:03 +0000 UTC]

possibly a chihuahua terrier mix. I have a dog that is one, and he gets in WAY over his head

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Rikun In reply to Ninjaterrorist65 [2015-11-14 20:28:25 +0000 UTC]

I'd go for an American Pitbull

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TireonShield In reply to Ninjaterrorist65 [2015-11-14 20:14:14 +0000 UTC]

A Golden Doge. 

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CharReed In reply to Ninjaterrorist65 [2015-11-14 20:10:27 +0000 UTC]

100% Grade A purebred mutt

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Zerna In reply to CharReed [2015-11-14 22:36:40 +0000 UTC]

Considering the melting pot of cultures, races, and histories that is America, I second this notion.

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ejWilliam In reply to Zerna [2015-11-14 23:29:00 +0000 UTC]

Please keep in mind that the sole purpose of a 'melting pot' is to allow the scum to rise to the top.

Unfortunately no one skims it off. These days popular culture tends to worship it.

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LobotomyBunny In reply to Ninjaterrorist65 [2015-11-14 20:07:38 +0000 UTC]

A golden retriever? 

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Ioialoha In reply to LobotomyBunny [2015-11-15 00:08:14 +0000 UTC]

we as a country aren't happy-go-lucky enough to be represented as a goldie. still, made me giggle quite a bit lol!

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LobotomyBunny In reply to Ioialoha [2015-11-15 21:13:19 +0000 UTC]

....uhhhmmm.......ummm a terrier? o 3 o 

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Ioialoha In reply to LobotomyBunny [2015-11-16 18:04:52 +0000 UTC]

a small, angry terrier maybe hahaha the hubby thinks we should be represented by an american pit bull terrier, but i feel like they're too focused to properly reflect the chaotic nature of our country. plus they're so smart! and we as a whole are much less so... wow i turned that into a downer quick didn't i. damnit.

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LobotomyBunny In reply to Ioialoha [2015-11-16 20:47:51 +0000 UTC]

Oh I know! I Puli! y'know those sheep dogs with straw like hair? Cute and energetic but they can't see very well....Maybe representing the USA's good intentions, but poor foresight lol

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Ioialoha In reply to LobotomyBunny [2015-11-17 05:57:14 +0000 UTC]

LOL! I love it! Nice comparison too

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Dragon-Shifter In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:51:14 +0000 UTC]

True, terrorism is not the same sort of existential threat that say World Wars or Nuclear exchanges were. My concern with these acts of terrorism is how Europe responds. When people are afraid, when people are angry, there are those who can and will exploit that. People who will encourage folks to lash out against those who had nothing to do with these criminals. My fear is that these attacks will animate the worst among Europe at a time when they are buzzing already.

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Dragonnerd445 In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:42:07 +0000 UTC]

Fucking idiots the lot of them. I'm glad the killers are dead and rotting. =\ 

As for the TRUE victims in France, my heart is with you! Stay strong! 

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Little-Bacchus In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:36:35 +0000 UTC]

I have a feeling so many wrong ends of sticks will be got...

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Levia-the-Dragon In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:36:32 +0000 UTC]

Well... to be blunt, the goal doesn't seem to be toppling western civilization anymore, it seems to be building antagonism between Muslims and the countries they live in, so that Muslims are more likely to be victimised or perceive victimization, officially or unofficially, and so that the host countries are more likely to view Muslims with paranoia and draconian measures, thus driving new recruits into the middle-east and other places where the Militant groups can actually hold territory. It also builds a sense of legitimacy that they can even strike at first-world nations at all, bringing in recruits already angry and/or crazy enough who now think they'll actually have a hope of conquering the world.

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Tribersman-FR In reply to Levia-the-Dragon [2015-11-14 22:00:54 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.
I would say that we are not fearing a sect bigger than usual as much as our collective-reaction to an events that perturb our understanding of our world.
Ideally we want a solution that respect peoples freedom and treat everybody as equal. In practice we fear to hit innocent people or cripples our own laws while trying to excise an ill defined tumor.
Destroying the terrorist organization and killing the obvious ones is well within France capability, but if we have to stop being what make France a great democracy to do so, it wouldn't be a victory.

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Levia-the-Dragon In reply to Tribersman-FR [2015-11-15 05:21:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. The only way in which I fear that organizations like Daesh could "win" is that they might cause world governments to become horribly fascist, controlling, repressive regimes, and that'd screw eeeeeeeeeveryone over. We're seeing too much of that already down here in Australia already, and we've been fortunate enough to mostly avoid actual attacks so it's hard not to see it as just an excuse for the government to over-react and tighten the screws on people.

Some people like to say that Leftist governments are the ones more likely to do that... but this charge towards authoritarianism under the guise of national security has been pretty consistently led by the ruling Conservative party.

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Tribersman-FR In reply to Levia-the-Dragon [2015-11-16 17:45:16 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I heard about Australia's policy concerning refugees.
We are alas gearing toward a world that can best be described as Dystopic Cyberpunk. There's a saying : Don't attribute to malice what can be more easily explained by stupidity.

Also, I agree. We can call leftist gov stupid and/or inefficient, but rightist politicians usually have their own personal agenda.
I'm dumbfounded to see some people surprised that a politician who defend personal freedom over collective freedom will make the most of it for themselves.

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Levia-the-Dragon In reply to Tribersman-FR [2015-11-17 05:07:12 +0000 UTC]

Well at least with a Cyberpunk world we'd have some better tech than what we do now... you've hit the nail right on the head there that a lot of this is down to people just being idiots.

Well... to me, the personal/collective freedom dichotomy is a false one to begin with, because what is even a personal freedom or a collective freedom? A collective freedom should simply be a personal freedom applied to the collective. That kind of talk just strikes me as a way for political minds to arbitrarily divide basic rights up and try to set them against each other, or to invent a different "right" that allows them to keep denying an actual right. Like defending the "right" of religions to persecute against gay people as their "freedom of religion".

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Tribersman-FR In reply to Levia-the-Dragon [2015-11-17 21:31:18 +0000 UTC]

Personal freedom imply an absences of responsibility for your actions, regardless if  (say) your pursuit of personal wealth caused a thousand other to become homeless ...or worse.
Collective freedom imply that even if freedom is the goal, you have some responsibility and duty toward each others.
We've been living in society thriving for Progress and Justice for so long, that we are forgetting that freedom also include the freedom to scam and enslave someone else through legalized means.

Caring about dichotomy like that is what made Humanity evolve through
- Monarchy
- Oligarchy
- "Still-fucked-up-with-inequality-and-slavery" republic
- "Women-still-can't-vote-or-have-bank-account" modern era
...and the lastest one I would call "I-don't-want-equality-too-much-because-I-might-become-rich-and-powerful-someday-and-hope-to-abuse-it LIBERAL DEMOCRACY"
We all agree to bake a cake and share it, but still want the right to claim the bigger cut.

ps: I should cut on analogy.

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Levia-the-Dragon In reply to Tribersman-FR [2015-11-18 06:35:23 +0000 UTC]

Mm, yeah that sounds about right... it really is just an attempt to try and paint certain things as "rights" and thus protect them, no matter how many people they hurt, all out of blatant self-interest, quite cynical really.

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PsiFlash In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:35:44 +0000 UTC]

I believe the best way to address them now is DAESH...it describes them more properly. ISIS or ISIL is a veiled attempt to legitimize thugs.

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IamNoOnebutIanMoone [2015-11-14 19:33:57 +0000 UTC]

Now what would America be in the whole reaction to terrorism?

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seithon In reply to IamNoOnebutIanMoone [2015-11-14 20:16:17 +0000 UTC]

it's hard to say but I'd guess it'd be one of those smaller easily excited dogs running around in circles barking at absolutely everything.

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IamNoOnebutIanMoone In reply to seithon [2015-11-18 00:36:37 +0000 UTC]

Hit it right on the nose for what I had in mind.

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Azarathian-Mage In reply to IamNoOnebutIanMoone [2015-11-14 19:37:13 +0000 UTC]

Depends on whether or not we're talking about Bush here. I don't know what kind of dog we'd be, but Bush's reaction is obvious, considering what he did in Afghanistan.

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IamNoOnebutIanMoone In reply to Azarathian-Mage [2015-11-14 19:39:12 +0000 UTC]

Some what of a little yippy dog that is startled when a door closes to fast, but not slammed fast.

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Azarathian-Mage In reply to IamNoOnebutIanMoone [2015-11-14 19:57:57 +0000 UTC]

So a Chihuahua? XD (I say this because that's exactly what my younger sister's Chihuahua does.)

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IamNoOnebutIanMoone In reply to Azarathian-Mage [2015-11-14 20:35:26 +0000 UTC]

Could be, jus depends on the dog actually is since they can just be sometime yin and yang even though they're same breed.

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slvmworldwide In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:33:14 +0000 UTC]

social critisism is the best

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TheGreatAlbert In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:29:00 +0000 UTC]

Considering the already heated debate regarding islam, immigration and security taht there was in France, I don't think this is really accurate. Mass media also help making this like seems like an actual war (I'm french, and it's really everywhere on T.V and social media).

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roisepoise101 In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:20:45 +0000 UTC]

Should you really be joking about this?

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Tribersman-FR In reply to roisepoise101 [2015-11-14 22:17:18 +0000 UTC]

Why should we not ?
Light Jokes like this one or even the Darkest humor are perfectly valid & acceptable mean of conveying opinions and message. Many people got this wrong, jokes and criticism are as much rhetoric arguments and can be as constructive than a "J'ACCUSE" pleas is.
It is only taboo because some people are bad as interpreting jokes correctly, they want to be told an easy thing to believe in rather than forms a personal opinion which would set them apart from their social group.
Of course sometime there is "BAD" jokes, but hey, we don't forbid affirmative stance because some persons are saying stupid things, do we ?

Also, If you shut up because a sects asked you to, you would basically be submitting to them.

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roisepoise101 In reply to Tribersman-FR [2015-11-14 23:07:10 +0000 UTC]

Innocent people died, lots of innocent people.

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Tribersman-FR In reply to roisepoise101 [2015-11-16 17:54:01 +0000 UTC]

Terrorist kill people regardless if it was a jokes or not.
Remember that those Islamic terrorist consider any forms of culture, entertainment, imaginary act of defiance of their belief as criminal offense. I just saw on TV a propaganda telling that not knowing how many times a day you must pray is a reason to murder you.

They would kill you for most of what you have in your gallery/favorite... or simply enjoying a meal in Paris.
There might be "bad jokes", but if someday you stop making any joke out of fear of being killed, it will mean you didn't defend your freedom of speech correctly.

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roisepoise101 In reply to Tribersman-FR [2015-11-16 19:44:12 +0000 UTC]

True but still

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sleeping-rainclouds In reply to roisepoise101 [2015-11-14 19:32:06 +0000 UTC]

I don't think he's really joking, so much as making a point... 
ps my sympathies to the families that lost loved ones, it is a horrendous thing that happened yesterday...

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roisepoise101 In reply to sleeping-rainclouds [2015-11-14 19:48:40 +0000 UTC]

Ok and like wise.

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seithon In reply to roisepoise101 [2015-11-14 19:27:51 +0000 UTC]

Yup, he really should

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roisepoise101 In reply to seithon [2015-11-14 19:49:47 +0000 UTC]

Umm this is really serious matter...

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seithon In reply to roisepoise101 [2015-11-14 20:20:12 +0000 UTC]

Yes but were also Europeans, this isn't the first or last time it's happened to us. Hopefully this will bring some unity to the EU and bring about some action, tho I worry it might just further empower the right and see Merkel in all kinds of trouble. But while I have all those worries I'd much rather smile at Jack's commentary about it.

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roisepoise101 In reply to seithon [2015-11-14 23:11:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeah but still, this is going to lead to a lot of problems down the road.

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IkkoArts In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:09:38 +0000 UTC]

Considering France and their national anthem, I'm gonna say they'll be more than ready for Isis.

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Maxamillion2009 In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:06:04 +0000 UTC]

Fucking morons.

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SevenSeven-7 In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:02:22 +0000 UTC]

ISIS aren't real Muslims... those people higher up in ISIS know that there's nothing religious about their hive of insects. They're merely using the Qaran as a face they can hide behind, claiming to be the ones suffering whilst they're really just preying on all the grey areas in morals and politics. They know that with ANY kind of attack that the US makes, they can point their fingers and go "HEY, THEY KILLED ONE OF OUR GUYS, A """""""MUSLIM"""""""", DO YOU WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO YOU TOO?" (the reason I use so many quotation marks is because they're anything but religious) And they know that with the amount of anti-Western people there are out there, there'll be plenty of people who will hop aboard and join. 

They're not fighting for Muslims. They're not fighting for peace or for a decent cause. They're fighting to sate their psychopathic bloodlust. They're worse than the Nazis. 

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PixelRebellion In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 19:00:56 +0000 UTC]

I love the drawing, and what you said in the description is pretty much exactly what I would say myself. I've never really thought about terrorism how you described it, but I agree with you 100%. Great job with this.

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