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I started working on this pic nearly two years ago, I think. It's supposed to be Revan on the bridge of her flag ship when Bastila and a squad of Jedi are trying to capture her, moments before Malak tries to blow her up. I wanted to have Revan Force choking a Jedi and have a couple of dead Jedi in the background (my Revan's a choker, she doesn't go for spamming Force lightning
) It was also during a time I was getting a fair amount of people (trolls) "informing" me that Revan is male. As if by some miracle I wouldn't already know about the "official" canon
Especially with all the trolls whose sole purpose seems to be to spam every piece of female Revan fandom out there. I wanted to wait until I was completely done before posting it, but I haven't been able to work on it for nearly a year
And I've been starting to get quite a bit of spam on my Revan deviations again.Though DA is no where near as bad as all the idiots on youtube, it had gotten to the point where I just felt like posting a deviation where I can explain once (and only once) why my Revan is who she is.
A video game called "Knights of the Old Republic" was released way back in 2003. I got it pretty much as soon as it was released. The first thing you have to do when you press start is choose your character. Now you're not choosing a Revan, you haven't even heard of Revan at this point. You can choose your character's class; soldier, scout, or scoundrel, and whether that character will be male or female. Since this was the first time in anything Star Wars a female could be the hero, I most certainly created a female character. If mermory serves my first character was a scout, whose outfit resembled Han Solo's (and because I really hated how the soldier and scoudrel outfits looked like.... plus the scout gets sexier looking underwear
which I wasn't aware of at that point 
).I don't remember the name I chose for my character that first playthrough, but during the second playthrough I named her "Chayla" (a random name the game generated) "Starcross" (a deliberate name I generated
) and that's who she's been ever since.Once you're done with that the game really begins and opens like any Star Wars movie with the fanfare and opening crawl. The crawl informs you of the situation and that the reigning Sith Lord Malak is the last apprentice of Darth Revan. And that's all you know about Revan so far. Your character wakes up on a Republic ship being attacked a boarded by Sith forces. If you're familiar with Bioware's other games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age then you'd be familiar with the story progression as your character continues on her/his journey meeting knew companions and learning new skills.
After the first act; escaping the planet Taris and meeting the majority of your companions, you go to the Dantooine Jedi Academy where you become a Jedi padawan. Here is where you learn the ways of the Force and more importantly get a lightsaber
You also learn more about who Darth Revan was and that your companion Bastila was there when Malak betrayed Revan. Your quest to retrace Revan's steps to discover the secret of the Star Maps, which makes up the majority of the second act of the story. The second act ends when you and your companions are captured and during your escaped you're confronted by the Sith Lord himself, Malak, and it's during that confrontation that you discover that YOU were actually Darth Revan all along.
Now I really feel sorry for Revan fans (male or female) if you only knew about Revan through comics, or more likely through Wookiepedia
, because actually experiencing this in the game was the second most awesome moment in Star Wars history (Vader revealing that he's Luke's father would be the first). And in a Sixth Sense-esque twist you realize that Revan was never referred to by gender and when Revan's face was finally revealed it was your character's face 
When Malak betrayed Revan, she was critically wounded but Bastila was able to keep her alive using the Force, but Revan's mind and memories were shattered. Since the Jedi don't believe in executing prinsoners, plus they needed to know what Revan knew, they imprinted Revan with a new identity, the character you created before the game started. The experience was so positive that when I actually created a male character for a third playthrough, I only made it to Dantooine before I just had to stop and start over again with a female character.
The first official publication stating that Revan was canonically male didn't come out until sometime in 2007. That's about four years after the game came out. And I only found out about it because of all the idiots that were spamming videos on youtube featuring female Revan who just seemed only too eager to informed the "misguided" that Revan was truly male
I mean, how insecure and frigthened of the thought of a female Revan, does someone have to be that they would continue to troll female Revan fandom nearly five years after Revan was canonically made male? I have nothing against male Revan fans, whether you're just going along with canon or escpecially if you've actually played the game that way. It's these annoying trolls that keep trying to "inform" me that Revan is male that really irritate me. Like they just can't stop gloating because they won (or as I like to think of it; Lucasart giving into the lowest common denominator).
Bottomline: when it comes to Revan, Lucasart fucked up. They just as easily could have kept Revan's gender a mystery the same way they've been keeping his face hidden. Bioware is doing that exact thing right now with Commander Shepard and (shocking to some) it's working! So I'm sure as hell not going to cater to that mistake. I'm prefectly fine with my Revan
So I hope this explains, or at least gives a better understanding to those who wonder why my Revan is and always will be female. And if it doesn't then you're one of the trolls I've been talking about.
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Revah's always been a girl to me because I love pairing her with Carth. 
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Very good reasoning! Heh, my first playthrough with this game was also as a female Revan. Can't remember the name I chose, but I do remember she had black hair, very much like how you have it here in your pic. Very good job on the pic btw.
And yeah, everyone working on Star Wars of various media keeps skrewing up. No main hero (or even a villian) as a female Jedi/Sith! Seriously, how hard could it have been to make Darth Maul a female in the first Star Wars Pre-Qual? Or even Count Dooku (who was originally thought to be a female, if I remember correctly, but they changed that obviously) Sheesh.
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Actually the Jedi Exile from KOTOR II is female according to the "official" canon.
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True, but my point is still valid. More often than not, it's always male.
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Very nice, exactly what female Revan should look like.
I like to screw canon and go with female Revan and male exile. Always seemed more natural to me.
Playing as female Revan is much more fun. I also *hated* the pick-up lines male Revan fumbles out trying to hit on Bastila. It's pathetic.
I always made my Revan just friends with Carth, though. I like my female Revan too much to let another man have her. Wierd, I know, but what are you going to do?
BTW, the trolls can't draw like this.
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I hate it when people spam female Revan fans. I haven't really gotten this much, but I've seen other people take crap for their female Revans.
I did get some crap today though. I was showing a friend of mine some drawings of my Revan, which I am quite proud of, and he said, "Wait that's your Revan?" And then went on a rant about how Revan is male. Made me kind of mad but I didn't say anything.
Honestly, male Revan just doesn't seem as fun. I've never played as one, but I think the relationship with Bastila is kind of...forced and awkward. It's much more fun to annoy the crap out of her as F!Revan.
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lol awesome job!
And really you have to admit that the whole concept of female Revan is so much cooler than male because you would never in a million years picture a woman behind that mask and armor. It makes the twist of finding out you're Revan so much greater! Like you said I have nothing against male Revan -- I mean, if you think about it, BioWare did a good job of keeping things neutral for whatever gender you play as. Even the name Revan doesn't really lean one way or the other (although I think it would be a cool name for an actual person 
My theory is that the trolls keep up their futile arguments simply because they KNOW femRevan is better and they're just jealous
okay /end-rant. Again, great picture! I <3 Revan!
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Whenever i play a game that allows you to choose a gender i have at least one male and female character so i can see both sides of the experience
as for this debate, i can see where your'll coning from, it makes sense to have F!Revan, just get that mod to romance Bastila (I won't get it since i don't want to wreak my copy) and you'll be fine. That being said i prefer M!Exile due to the whole thing atris, Brianna, Visas. i felt it had a bit of a better story.
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Great picture!
I always check to see your KOTOR art, beacause I really enjoyed the game.
In my personal opinion:
Don't feed the trolls. There are simply some people that like to brag and argue about something, just to prove they are right. Don't mind them. There is old chinese saying (I hope I can write it in english correctly
For me, Revan will always be female, and the Exile male. To put it simply I just think it fits the story. Especially when You remember KOTOR 2 and the talk with Kreia about the ,,influence" that Revan had on people
Of course that doesn't mean I dont enjoy Your female Exile art. Not at all! Your art i great, I think you are doing great job! Thumbs UP!!
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Amazing work. All of your Revan artwork looks incredible, keep up the amazing work, and ignore all the naysayers.
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Well, *I* for one will always see Revan as a girl, and she looks totally badass.
As for keeping Revan's gender a secret, I agree. There's a comic book series based on the game, and I really appreciate that, in spite of the "canon", they've avoided all gender pronouns through ten trade paperbacks. XD
Can't wait to see this one finished (with background and dead Jedi I hope!) XD
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I never had an issue with Revan's gender, but I do know they did finally need to make a call on it for the canon story. *Not that that matters when George decides to go and edit the lore at will.*
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I usually play as a male Revan(because teasing Bastila is far too much fun
I totally agree with you about the reveal, by the way; that really threw me for a loop the first time I played KotOR.
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I like the image, we can somewhat feel the perverse pleasure of Revan when choking the enemy.
I think that theses trolls who just indicate you that you're wrong if a bit forcefully fall in two categories : the "true" fans, who restricts themselves only to the canon, and if possible G-canon; and the ones that just can't imagine that a female could be Dark Lord of the Sith, ergo Revan is male, and Lucasart agrees.
Personally, I strangely go reverse than the canon in terms of genders... my Revan is female, mainly because it feels right when compared to the male walkthrough. My Exile is male, but i must admit that it's mainly because i like Handmaiden far more that Disciple. And I've always played Jaden as a female twi'lek.
I agree that lucasart probably should have not set canonical genders. They however needed to set a canonical end, and thus character side for history continuity. On that points, my Revans (and usually Exiles) are rarely LS or DS, but overall neutral. It is a stance that I really like in the sw universe, but is pretty hard (and sometimes downright impossible) to maintain in both kotor. It's due to my vision of the force, I think, as I am more or less a believer of the Unifiying Force and the White Current.
On last word when watching your image again : the DS Starforge armor is truly far more classy than the LS ones.
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Love female Revan !!!! I am on the dark side, come we have cookie <3
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Excellent work on her , Joe.
And I have to agree with your sentiment on the in-game Revan reveal.
And, like you, My Revan is female. Always will be.
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It's just perfect, This is how I imagine Revan!
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This is lovely work, Joseph, like all your work is. And ignore the trolls; they do what they do because it's the only way they get any jollies in life. Heh, and maybe a few don't like the girl-on-girl action between Bastila Shan and a female Revan.
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*beats spammers with a beskar staff*
Some morons obviously have nothing better to do than harass others. *smacksmacksmack*
I didn't get to play either KOTOR game until loooong after they were out and canon had been established for both Revan and the Exile. Canon didn't mean much to me for the game when I could choose the gender and look of my character. I knew Revan was male, but I only ever played "him" as a woman.
Like you, I like female heroes. Nothing against guy characters, but I'm a woman, so I'm going immediately for a female character.
I think, had hubby's computer not crapped out on us, I would have eventually played male versions of both characters. I was working through Light Side f/Revan and Dark Side f/Exile when the computer started crashing the games. I started female, and was working through just about every variation of the storyline(light/dark, different party members, etc). Eventually planned to go male version at some point, just never got the chance.
And yeah...they messed that up. Not knowing for Revan OR the Exile would have been interesting, and there's plenty of ways to place a character in a game or comic(as they later did for Revan) and leave their species, gender, and look completely ambiguous and unknown.
Your f/Revan was one of the reasons I put you on my watchlist. I liked your portrayal of her, so 
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Right on, man. I've played through both games as male and female Rev, and I have to agreed the story is so much more interesting as fem!Rev. I mean, seriously, how many big-name Sith Lords are WOMEN??!! No, Asajj doesn't count, she's not a Darth. 
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God, your work is always so amazing.
And I too was pissed when Lucasart deemed it 'necessary' to assign Revan gender. Even more when they announced that the General from KotoR 2 was female by canon, and it was meant to balance out Revan being male. Well, shouldn't have screwed up in the first place, should we?
Also, you could be any one of a myriad of female characters in Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy. Not sure if that came out before KotoR, but I do believe so. If you've never played it, I highly recommend it....computer version, if you have the system to handle it. It's an old game so most systems won't have too much of an issue.
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Oh, yeah. Jedi Academy actually came out a few months after "Knights of the Old Republic" and I bought that one right away too. And when I found out you could choose a Twi'lik (there is no option for a male Twi'lik), there was no way I was not going to make Jaden a Twi'lik. [link] Plus, Episode II had come out the previous year and I was jonesing for some Aayla Secura
Unfortunately, Lucasarts learned absolutely nothing from the Revan debacle and decided to make Jaden Korr a "bland, white, human male" (my words
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I just say that "You know the character is really a male, lol" to tease people a bit. Guess you could call that trolling, but in the end, the game makers allowed you to make female versio of the character, so it doesn't matter really. You got artistic freedom. But the games like these are usualy made in male players at mind. So the characters end up being pretty masculine, even as females. Like femme Sheppard, totally masculine character, down to her voice.
Personaly I always play male character anyhows. Wouldn't like someone comming to tell me that I should do female because it's the default. Theres option to change genders in the game. Everyone plays as the gender they like the most.
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That's the thing. "Knights of the Old Republic" did not feel like a game that catered to the (often insecure) fanboy base. The story works well with a female or male character (in my opinion I think it actually works better with a female character
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But then you can't tempt Bastilla with the love and make sure she slides to the darkside because she gives too much space to the emotions. I actualy thought it made more sense that way, than the Malak giving him few backrubs!
I know he was always a bit emotional and all, but because of the conflict inside her caused by luurveeee, it made more sense.
But as I said, doesn't really matter! Everyone plays as a character they pefere. But if female Revan would look anything like you draw her as, I'd be game!
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Well, to be fair, Mysteries of the Force had you playing with Mara Jade
And people (99% males) become fierce about Revan's gender because he is basically a blank slate, on which you project yourself. For what it's worth 90% of my Revans were female darksiders, so yeah... Bring us more Revan fanart!
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For what it's worth, I'm perfectly fine with female!Revan, too. I'd have preferred that Revan was canonically female, as well.
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What's worse is that the Exile was made canonically female just to "shut the F!Revan enthusiasts up".
As for Commander Shepard... I say F!Shepard got a better voice actor in the first place. So there!
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Yeah, that is so true. Lucasarts knew that Revan was the more popular of the characters so it wasn't really much of a "risk" for them to make The Exile female. And another fact, you don't see trolls spamming male Exile fandom that the Exile is supposed to be female
And there are a few truths that are just absolute in this humble world of ours; the sky is blue, water is wet, the sun is yellow ....
and female Shepard has a better voice actor than male Shepard
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People in complete denial of Jen Hale's awesomeness.
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Jen Hale is the only reason I'll be playing a trooper in TOR, but Vanderloo is actually a model, so I'm on the fence for Shepard's gender
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Your right! Why are trolls so afraid of a female Revan? Are they too afraid that a female can kick ass more then Vader can? I mean seriously, whats the big deal?! I mean sure this is a matter dealing with the greatest sith lord of all time but seriously, Bioware did fuck up and now all the fans and trolls of male Revan need to deal with it.
I still believe Revan should be a female just so Star Wars can have a kick-ass female sith lord who pwns Lord Vader.
There are too many 'successful' male siths and not enough 'successful' female siths, so to even out the odds Revan should be a female, in my opinion.
Plus Carth/FemRevan & Bastila/FemRevan....I mean those gotta be the BEST PAIRINGS EVER!!!! Total love triangle right there!!!! [Carth/FemRevan/Bastila]
I still think there should have been the option to turn Carth to the darkside.....I mean if he loved her as much as he said he did, and his son was killed [if you picked that option] then I think he should have turned to the darkside.
Anywho, getting a little off topic. Over all, Female Revan rules, screw all the trolls [they suck] and Lucasarts screwed up and now pay for the conciquences [and I swear if I ever meet George Lucas I am going to have a serious talk with him about Revan].
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As for turning Carth to the darkside - someone made it possible.
[link]
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I know, I saw them on youtube - it's absolutly amazing; unfortunatly I have Star Wars KOTOR on my X-box so I can't download that alternative ending. WHY MUST THE MOST AWESOMEST THING NOT BE ALREADY IN THE GAME ITSELF?!?!?!?!
Anyways, thanks for the link - I may buy the PC game just to turn Carth to the Darkside.
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Considering how cheap the game is it's probably worth it. There's so many other MODS which extend and add to to the gameplay. Now you got me wanting to play it again, yay!?
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Yes, that is true. I am deffinatly going to buy, download and play the game now, sometime this summer.
Are you going to be getting the new 'Old Republic' game for PC that is going to be comming out in the next year or so? It's supposivly like WoW where you can play one player or multi-player online though I am not sure if they are going to make the players pay for online time - I hope not....but if they do I think I am still going to get it anyways.
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If you want, IGN's direct 2 drive is selling the PC version of KOTOR for $9.95 and it's tax free and you can download it onto any computer you want to and as many times as you want to.
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Really? Cool...I may take up that offer, if I convince my parents to get it for me.
Thanks for the info!
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Revan.
Doesn't matter what gender they are,they are able to kill you with a flick of the wrist.
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Revan's totally a lady. One, there aren't enough female Sith Lords (I refuse to call them 'Sith Ladies'. It sounds stupid). Two, it just makes more sense (I can't explain why, but it does). And three, Bastila/FemRevan. 'Nuff said. >:3
The art is great, as always. ą² wą²
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'Sith Ladies' doesn't sound right, I agree. But the moniker 'Mistress' could replace 'Lord' for a female Sith, it seems to fit: i.e. 'Sith Mistress' or 'Mistress Revan'
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There are not enough females period in Star Wars
And my Revan does fall in love with both Carth and Bastila
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I might read the book, but if I do I'll just pretend Revan's female. I'll never understand why the fuss. Sure, I do wish that they had left Revan's gender a mystery but in the end it doesn't matter because I'm the one who's playing KOTOR and at Revan is who I'll want Revan to be at the end of the day.
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