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Description Finally finished with this. This is one of three ship pics I plan to do, with the remaining being White Rose and Bumbleby in that order after I take care of a few other art obligations.

Anyway, my personal opinion is that this ship certainly has potential, but I feel the popularity of Bumbleby will make it difficult for it to actually come to fruition to begin with, assuming it's something the writers are seriously willing to consider.

(Note: I feel guilty about getting Blake involved in this pic lol)
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HeroOfTengoku7K [2024-04-21 07:39:24 +0000 UTC]

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BaskFactory [2022-07-16 08:18:59 +0000 UTC]

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to BaskFactory [2022-07-16 10:54:33 +0000 UTC]

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FireDav [2021-09-07 04:21:48 +0000 UTC]

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to FireDav [2021-12-04 23:40:34 +0000 UTC]

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FireDav In reply to Joshuya-Raidon [2021-12-05 00:06:17 +0000 UTC]

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to FireDav [2021-12-05 00:09:59 +0000 UTC]

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FireDav In reply to Joshuya-Raidon [2021-12-05 00:12:24 +0000 UTC]

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NoirWolf09 [2020-02-22 02:02:46 +0000 UTC]

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Groomsman [2019-11-11 02:48:48 +0000 UTC]

How scandalous~ 💙💛

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spencermalley [2019-10-12 06:31:40 +0000 UTC]

Wow, Yang. I didn't think you were that kind of person.

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CommissioneronHiatus [2019-09-07 07:19:47 +0000 UTC]

That's hot.

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Kaptensten [2018-08-20 18:40:56 +0000 UTC]

Welcome back to the world of the artists, been a while.

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to Kaptensten [2019-09-01 13:40:03 +0000 UTC]

Thank you Maze-kun...

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Kaptensten In reply to Joshuya-Raidon [2019-09-03 17:03:23 +0000 UTC]

Back once more?

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Geshtro [2018-08-16 02:33:30 +0000 UTC]

I prefer Bumblebee and White Rose more, but nice job none the least. :3

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SeekerOfJustice79 In reply to Geshtro [2019-11-29 12:34:37 +0000 UTC]

I'm a Catmeleon person myself

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to Geshtro [2018-08-16 12:02:36 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! But of course, I respect all ships. In fact, I don't ship these two at all, or any character for that matter. I just enjoy making art of ships.

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Patrick-Leigh [2018-08-16 01:30:46 +0000 UTC]

Nothing but good things could come from the words, "She doesn't need to know."  I have never seen anything bad from that kind of thinking.  Nope.  Not once.

By the way, did you know sarcasm is the lowest form of wit?  No idea why I'm mentioning that.

Okay, in all seriousness, this is well drawn, the background is very dynamic, but I hate seeing situations like this.  It doesn't matter what people are involved, either.  Man and woman, man and man, woman and woman, it's never a good thing to cheat on someone.  That doesn't mean I think you were wrong for drawing this, mind you.  I just think I would be more comfortable if I knew it was meant as a cautionary tale, that's all.

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to Patrick-Leigh [2018-08-16 13:05:39 +0000 UTC]

That depends on who you ask. Some say "puns" are actually the lowest form of wit. Others say it isn't about wit since sarcasm is a complex high order skill that requires one to understand the emotions and state of mind of other people. It's only low in the sense that it typically aims to "hurt" others and generally carries a negative connotation.


But I digress, I thank you for the compliment. I am actually happy that you feel that way about the pic, because I wanted to throw in that twist and did not intend for it to be your typical "lovey dovey" ship pic. I was aware it could generate some commotion, and I have no regrets because I am free to express this in art as much as you are free to make this comment about it. This was obviously meant to poke fun at Bumbleby, much like a person cracking a joke that may appear insensitive to some people. It's going to happen because people are different and are sensitive to different things. One might accept it as a joke while another is offended. As long as we share this world (internet), no one is safe from potentially becoming offended.


But hey, why don't we put another spin to this? Without much context, it seems the go-to interpretation of this pic is that Bumbleby is actually a thing. How about it isn't? How about Weiss had the wrong impression about those two? How about Yang realized she actually had feelings for Weiss after reconciling with Blake but was unable to open up to Blake again like she wanted to? How about Yang said the things she did because she just wants to keep their thing a secret from the others but mentioned Blake's name because Weiss mentioned her name due to her having the wrong impression? TA-DA! No cheating involved. If the idea of cheating makes you feel uncomfortable then just spin it in a way that it isn't so, because when it comes down to it...it's just all in our heads.

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Patrick-Leigh In reply to Joshuya-Raidon [2018-08-16 14:56:19 +0000 UTC]

Oh, if I came across as offended by your piece, I do apologize, because I'm not.  Art that makes me uncomfortable isn't necessarily a bad thing, in and of itself, and every piece of art is open to interpretation.  Plus, misinterpreting feelings (our own and other peoples') seems a perfectly legitimate way to interpret your piece... no pun intended.  I've had friends who thought that other friends were head-over-heels for each other only to find out they were just passionate about a shared hobby and other friends who though they were in love with someone only to later come to understand that what they felt was infatuation and obsession.  So, your picture could also be seen as two people who are totally misunderstanding the situation they're in at the moment.  It's fun to consider all the possible angles of a story, isn't it?

Also, you're right about some people considering puns as the lowest form of wit.  That makes me think I should play around with what some of the cultures in my story settings consider "high" and "low" humor to add some extra flavor to them, which should be a lot of fun.

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to Patrick-Leigh [2018-08-16 21:08:42 +0000 UTC]

Oh not at all, and I apologize for making that assumption and implication that you may have been offended to some degree. It's hard to read those things when it comes to just words being displayed on a screen lol.

Hey, that's a valid interpretation and I support that! Misinterpreting the situation and people's feelings (including one's own) does happen IRL, and that's part of the joy of being human. Considering the different angles of a story is quite applicable to pretty much anything a person says or does...whether it be real, portrayed, depicted, etc. Cherry pick a detail and you can interpret it in a multitude of ways. Our attempts at deciphering is always the fun part!

You know, I don't think the difference of what is considered high and low humor among various cultures has been utilized before from the stories I've read. I feel it would certainly add some exotic flavor to the dialogue characters from different backgrounds can have.

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Patrick-Leigh In reply to Joshuya-Raidon [2018-08-17 00:56:43 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it's something I also haven't seen explored, either, which is all the more incentive to do so.  One thing I've been considering, for example, is the difference in humor between the various types of Elves in my setting.  The Sun Elves are generally extremely aloof so "low brow" humor would be something they wouldn't (openly) like, whereas the Wood Elves, who I refer to as the "meat and potatoes Elves" of my setting, won't hesitate to tell a fart joke and will laugh heartily if they hear one themselves.  It's fun to consider the possibilities, and, as you said, I think it will add some exotic flavor to the interactions among different groups of characters.

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to Patrick-Leigh [2018-08-17 11:24:46 +0000 UTC]

...I just took a look at your journals since you mentioned elves in your setting and I gotta ask, are you Tolkien reincarnate? xD


I am already amazed by just glancing over them. However, I am also perplexed as to why they have not managed to garner much feedback and comments. There certainly must be bookworm types lurking around here. I'd like to make time to get into them myself but admittedly, I was never a heavy (fan)fiction reader to begin with.

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Patrick-Leigh In reply to Joshuya-Raidon [2018-08-17 15:07:47 +0000 UTC]

Wow, I'll take that compliment!   

I'm sure my journals will garner more attention eventually, but in the meantime, I'm just going to keep at them.  The one I'm currently writing is taking a lot more time, since I've had to make a few charts to reference for all the Orcs in the family and how they're related to each other.  I would have been writing the actual story/essay by now, except the Word file I was using got corrupted before I had a chance to back it up.    I was not happy about that!  Still, having to start over allowed me to refine my process a bit, so maybe it was for the better.  Regardless, I'm still having fun, and doing this has helped me to progress on working out the details of my flintlock fantasy setting, so it's going to be worth the effort even if I don't get much attention here on Deviant Art.  Once I'm done with Orcs, I'll probably move on to one of the other Races.  I'm not sure which one, though.  Elves are a much more diverse lot (with a ton of animosity between ethnicities and nationalities) so they wouldn't be a good choice.  Maybe the Dwarves.  They're varied, but their strong sense of tradition means their cultures are much more similar to each other than not.

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to Patrick-Leigh [2019-09-01 13:17:53 +0000 UTC]

The fact that you go into using charts for the different races and their families... You have my utmost respect and admiration.


When you mention how diverse the Elves are, is it something to the effect of how WoW establishes them? I never played the game but I've seen enough to know they have dark elves, night elves, blood elves, etc. I think back to the LotR movies and while I was able to grasp that there were different factions, I didn't interpret them as being different "types" of elves with an actual sub-name to them like how WoW has it. Perhaps the fact that I didn't read the LotR books doesn't help though. xD

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Patrick-Leigh In reply to Joshuya-Raidon [2019-09-01 21:02:18 +0000 UTC]

In my story setting, the Elves were originally once race that branched out other groups that took on different attributes in response to the environments in which they settled.  Another thing that caused them to change was fallout from the Divine War, a period when the gods were fighting directly with one another.  (That caused all kinds of problems, in fact.  Some people were changed dramatically, which is how races like the Centaurs, Harpies, and others came to be.)

My Elves are divided into three main groups:  The Light Elves, the Wood Elves, and the Dark Elves.  Each group has some offshoots. 

The Light Elves are mainly divided up into the Sun Elves, Moon Elves, Star Elves, and Snow Elves. 

The Wood Elves are divided into the what I'm presently calling the Forest Elves, Prairie Elves or Wild Elves, Sea Elves (they live on tropical islands,) and Jungle Elves. 

The Dark Elves are divided up into the Deep Elves (think Drow, but without all the murder,) Desert Elves, Night Elves, Shadow Elves, and Dusk Elves.

The way my Elves work (presently) is that they have very long lifespans, so normal processes of natural selection and adaptation are not what causes them to change so much.  Instead, their gametes (reproductive cells) modify themselves in response to their environments so that their offspring will be better adapted to it than they are.  For example, the Dark Elves originated when a faction of the original Elves moved into a very hot, arid reason.  Because of the higher levels of UV light and harsher living conditions, their offspring were born with dark skin (to protect their DNA from the damaging effects of certain UV waves) and were more hearty and durable than the generation that had come before them.

Essentially, the reproductive cells Elves produce will modify which genes are dominant and which are recessive if the Elves have lived in a particular type of environment long enough.  Or at least that used to be the case.  The Divine War amplified the effects considerably.  Since its conclusion, however, this mechanism has become considerably weaker, so even as the Light Elves, Wood Elves, and Dark Elves separated into different groups, they retained many of the attributes that their ancestors had possessed.  They still fall into those three main categories, in other words.

And no matter which group they are, certain aspects of Elves are fairly constant.  The vast majority are very lithe in physique, are usually rather androgynous looking (the woman are slender and a bit flat chested while the men cannot grow facial hair,) they nearly all have upturned eyes of vibrant color, they lack body hair, and the hair on their heads is almost always straight and smooth.  And, obviously, they have pointed ears.

As to their cultures, there's a lot I'm still figuring out.  I know the Sun Elves are pretty arrogant and prejudiced, considering themselves to be the only "true" Elves because they look the closest in appearance to the original Elven race, but their obsession with maintaining their purity (partly through inbreeding) has caused a sharp rise in sterility, so they're numbers are on the decline.  Most of the other Elven races really do not get along with the Sun Elves and will side with Non-Elves before they agree to work with Sun Elves, in most cases.

So, that's where I'm at presently.  The protagonist for my stories, Perdita Nightshade, is a Half-Orc, but she's 1/16th Moon Elf through her Human father.  I'll be having her meet her Moon Elf ancestor at some point, since the woman is still alive and quite youthful looking.  Perdita has inherited her violet eyes and quite a few of her mannerisms.  (I have a bunch of journals on Perdita you can check out if you like.)

Anyway, I hope this wasn't a boring read, but you sounded interested, so I decided I'd give basic rundown of what I've come up with so far. 

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teturo [2018-08-15 12:45:17 +0000 UTC]

They make a cute pair, but for all Yang’s flirting I don’t think she’s into other girls.

Neptune might be a wannabe Casanova but I don’t think he’s turned Weiss off guys either.

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to teturo [2018-08-16 12:25:00 +0000 UTC]

Of course! Even though I see potential, I feel the writers are really gonna have to put some work into persuading the audience that it fits the current relationship dynamics that have been established among the characters we know. If they go that route, then they would probably have the added difficulty of convincing the audience that it's the better ship to go with than the ones that appear to make more sense.


Still, it's a possibility, and I've learned to keep an open mind about it because there have been cases where the majority or good portion of the fandom feels a certain ship can't possibly be canon and then seemingly out of nowhere, it's confirmed. What may look unlikely to the audience may be different in the mind of the writer(s).

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teturo In reply to Joshuya-Raidon [2018-08-17 14:57:40 +0000 UTC]

Well it depends on if CRWBY is trying to end with Lancaster, White Rose, or White Knight. 

I could live with White Knight if they give us back Nuts and Dolts. 

Personally when it comes to Yang I’m a bit of a fan of Combat Goggles with Neptune, simply because they both hide some insecurities behind a front of cool confidence. 

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to teturo [2019-09-01 13:24:50 +0000 UTC]

I see, and that's a good point. However, the ship wars are so intense that CRWBY may very well opt to have everyone stay "single" despite all the supposed hints. Going this route won't save them from the toxicity however, since people will then call them out for not allowing a LGBT ship to be confirmed etc etc, but they may view it as the most neutral option they could take if they actually cared about the ship wars.


Perhaps the only safe ship they can really push for at this point is Renora.

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teturo In reply to Joshuya-Raidon [2019-09-03 19:14:12 +0000 UTC]

The one thing we know for certain is that it's impossible for everyone to get their OTP in any fandom.

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Patrick-Leigh In reply to teturo [2018-08-16 01:37:42 +0000 UTC]

I agree with your conclusions on the characters.  Yang's personality is very flirty, but she's almost never serious about it.  There's a very strong bond between her and Blake, but it's more of the type you see between comrades in arms.  My cousin was in the army, and he told me how strong of a connection he developed with other soldiers after taking cover from bullet fire with them.  Life or death situations tend to have that effect on people.  I think works of fiction in all mediums really don't explore the kind of love that develops between those who face death together... probably because it's a rather weighty subject and can involve a lot of darkness.

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Joshuya-Raidon In reply to Patrick-Leigh [2019-09-01 13:30:43 +0000 UTC]

I see, I can't begin to comprehend that feeling that must develop among comrades facing death together. Point taken good friend.

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Patrick-Leigh In reply to Joshuya-Raidon [2019-09-01 21:04:00 +0000 UTC]

According to my cousin, it's one of those things you can't truly understand without experiencing it.  That's why I'm making sure to talk with people who have so I can do a better job depicting it when I write my stories about people who have had to fight against dangerous foes together.

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