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juanmimagine — Death of the minotaur.
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Published: 2019-06-19 14:27:27 +0000 UTC; Views: 4053; Favourites: 84; Downloads: 28
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I remade this piece that I did like six months ago. I had the idea of the minotaur being a mighty beautiful creature that was being slaughtered by this soldiers, but it didn't come across that way so I tried again recently to see if I could do better. Comments and critics welcomed, and if you want to you can follow me at www.instagram.com/juanmimagine…Related content
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Wow that's really awesome!
so if I have something to say.. mmh..
maybe more emphasis on the exhaustion, on a minotaur, the best way to show exhaustion would be to use the tongue.. maybe it's because I am used to seeing bulls that have trouble breathing but for me it doesn't show on his face that he is wounded and exhausted and looking at how deep that spear is, it seems that he might have a punctured lung..
Probably a tongue sticking out a bit and being up like bulls do when they are wounded..
like so (WARNING image of a real bull abuse)
previews.123rf.com/images/mche…
there is also something bulls do when they are shocked, frightened and full of adrenaline is that their eyes pop out a bit and that make the white of the eye visible but that would mostly be during heated combat or ifhe's suddenly startled also, it would give a crazed look that probably wouldn't suit this picture well..
Also I think there might be a slight anatomy problem with the right leg (screen left), if you follow it to the base, trying to ignore the arm, loincloth, etc.. it looks like the hips is way too wide compared to the thickness of the thighs, I would say rotating the thighs a bit so that its base is closer to the abs and the thighs follow the line of force (it would also make the elbow stick out a bit more )
I'd say also the right hoof (screen left as well) could also be a bit behind, he's putting a lot of weight on this shield, could be that he's loosing his balance..
Anything that might cause emotional reaction and empathy cuz bulls tend to have a pretty low sympathy factor for a mammal..
Also a little tip for doing the anthro kind of legs, you did a fantastic job on the left leg but the right leg could use that tip :
the foot (not the part that touch the ground, ungulates are a bit like ballet dancers, only the tip of their toes touch the ground) should pretty much always be parallel to the thigh of the same leg in all three axis.. so the right foot should also follow the line of force
As for the head it's beautiful, but I think the things from which the horns protrude extend a bit to much on each sides..
As for waist, it would probably benefit from being a bit slimmer, to give the beast a more athletic look, because if there is something that ppl hate more than monsters it's fat monsters.
I'm not saying he's fat, but we live in a world in which even ppl that bend forward shouldn't have a tummy..
compromising on this realistic aspect for more appeal is probably a good idea
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Thanks for the tips! I'm gonna let it stay a few days, then probably try to fix some of the stuff. The hips thing I realized but I don't know, I thought fuck it, its invented, but yeah, that part of the image is kind of messy, the hips, and legs, great tip the 3 axis parallel thing to fix that feet.
The tonge and eye thing I don't know, I certainly was using reference that had those things in it but I kind of ignored it because it made it look funny. But hey, thanks for those points, I'm certainly gonna try to fix a bunch of stuff with the legs at least, maybe the horns etc. Thanks!
No problem with that bull abuse, not that I like bullfights but I am sadly familiarized with that kind of stuff because I'm spanish.
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here are some references,
www.deviantart.com/popular-all…
dumielauxepices.net/wallpaper-…
BTW, I really need to say it again, it's a stellar piece, I luv it.. I wish I could paint like that.. I can draw and I'm good with anatomy, composition and poses, but when it comes to rendering, painting, transforming the drawing into a cool looking picture, I suck so much! I never managed to train that skill..
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You just need to realize that painting is drawing with paints, take some basic course and paint from life a lot. Try schoolism.com
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yeah, the feet parallel to the thigh thing is pretty much everywhere in big animals (and very common in insect too if you look at ants, you'll notice that the first segments and the third segments of all 6 legs are parallel by default), even in some plantigrades like some reptiles (and also most ppl don't notice but we humans actually prefer to have our feet and thighs parallel(except hyperlax ppl that always do weird shit with their feet XD) most humans when they sit or assume a relax, resting position, automatically have their feet parallel to their thighs).. unguligrade and digitigrade have it completely by default : any stable and or confortable position have the feet parallel to the thighs..
for example when you play with dog's feet, you can easily break the parallelism without hurting them but the moment you let go of the feet, it will go back to parallelism..
Also as somewhat of an exception, when they move, like when they run or walk, there is always a drag, basically when the feet leave the ground to make the pass, the thigh lead the movement so the feet are late which is why it's okay in some dynamic poses (especially when the hoof/paw isn't grounded) to have the thighs and feet not parallel.. (I'm an animator)
there is also another exception, it's when the subject are crouching, like felines stalking their preys, belly touching the ground..
parallelism in this case still looks good, but is actually incorrect.. Altho I would still advise for parallelism, the onlytime I think it's okay to break it in a picture involving an unguligrade or digitigrade is either when doing a certain kind of dynamic poses where one leg is raised or when you have a real life reference that breaks the rule, because nature knows how to break the rules so it's okay..
and I think the last exception is when the animals is sitting on its hind, in this case you can have between 35 and 60 degree of difference between the thighs and feet depending on how flexible the animal is.
We still have the connection in our brain that tells us something is wrong with that leg when the thighs and feet of the same leg aren't parallel, but it's been like 60 to 70 millions years since we last used those connections to judge the sexyness of a mate so it's too vague and ppl don't realize it.. most ppl that says they prefer unsound anatomy is because they don't like it when non-humans aren't grotesque (well except felines, canines and equines of course those need to have proper anatomy but screw everything else) I don't think that's a very good fate for the artistic representation of non-humans..
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Thanks, yeah it is so sad!
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