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Published: 2013-09-15 12:12:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 2837; Favourites: 49; Downloads: 0
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Description And here it is. My five pages comic for Comic School. I have been working on it for 2 weeks now, but I did most of the work this weekend and finally I am finished
I really hope you will like it. Give me some critique if you feel like it, since it is after all you who are reading it and I am attending school to learn.

The comic is about if it is right to keep orcas in captivity, and answers to many peoples suggestion to let them all free.
This is my own opinions in the matter, though I have made it more cartoony.

Have a good reading.
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Comments: 43

sharkplane77 [2019-05-21 01:55:55 +0000 UTC]

what about sea pens? not trying to stir anything im just curious (cuz permanent ocean-based enclosures for cetaceans who were born and raised in captivity, and have zero chance of survival in the wild, seem more logical to me given how the world is changing. to me its like the compromise between the pro and anti-captivity people. i think Keiko would have lived a nice long life in the sea pen he was kept in if he wasnt allowed to leave, and it would have been better than the tanks he was in before)

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potatotheorca1 [2017-08-26 23:00:51 +0000 UTC]

I support captivity and this is very right and accurate. I don't support some orca places (Miami seaquarium, Mundo Marino, Marineland Canada) And I used to think freedom or a sea sancutary was the only answer for them. 1. Just because Lolita, Kshamenk, and Kiska (I think) were born in the wild they would end up like Luna and Tiko. It's been years since they last seen their ocean and I don't even expect one of the most intelligent beings on earth to remember to hunt a Β tiny fish in the wild. 2. In a captive tank, The water is clean, and the orcas don't have to worry about a single oil spill or can floating in their waters. Filters also keep the water clean. Sea Sancutaries don't have filters and it looks like a can can float through the rope or a plastic wrapper. And since oil is a liquid it can easily flow through too. I also hope Plio gets a friend. He might have trainers to hang out with but that's only during the day time. Β 

P.S It's actually stupid how Peta or animal rights activist groups always want orcas from Sea World like Takara or Nakai to be free but they are captive born so they wont even last an day out there.

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Wolfen1991 [2015-05-22 03:26:41 +0000 UTC]

while I am against captivity I do have to agree that you can not just let the dolphins out on their own.
Killer whales are mentally and physically ill when in captivity which is why they die so young. Even the ones born in captivity rarely live past the age of ten. what I would like is for the breeding to stop completely and let the ones in captivity die out. That in my view is the only way to the the suffering of the animals. It doesn't help that killer whales are put in a small tank with others that they are unable to communicate with. In the end the ends should never justify the means. capturing and breeding them is wrong as it puts them into a life of depression, illness, underage breeding, loneliness and loss of their own children. Β 

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Ragecomics100 [2014-02-06 19:26:47 +0000 UTC]

some say that captive orcas can`t use sonar
its true?

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Jullelin In reply to Ragecomics100 [2014-02-19 00:19:10 +0000 UTC]

I've heard about that theory, don't know if it is true though...

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Fluffah [2013-09-19 02:16:20 +0000 UTC]

Actually both wild caught and captive born cetaceans have proven they're capable of hunting. There are loads of videos of Sea World's orcas in particular regurgitating their fish and using it to bait birds. So it simply isn't true that they've forgotten how to hunt they invented another method for it really. No one's really saying they should all be dumped in the ocean but they would fair better in a sea pen than a tank.

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SkyebobPiepants [2013-09-18 00:56:41 +0000 UTC]

Well done

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FootieBo [2013-09-15 20:23:47 +0000 UTC]

This is Β SOOO true, this happened to Free Willy. Sea Shepherd/Whale Wars/Earthrace and their people are too stupid to know this. This why I'm against them,... you Can't Fix STUPID!

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0rcinusorca In reply to FootieBo [2013-09-16 19:30:02 +0000 UTC]

Actually this not what happened to Keiko who I think you mean by Free Willy, but this is what freedom of speech is all about.

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Fluffah In reply to 0rcinusorca [2013-09-19 02:13:10 +0000 UTC]

Funny seeing you here.

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0rcinusorca In reply to Fluffah [2013-09-22 02:18:21 +0000 UTC]

Why is that?

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Fluffah In reply to 0rcinusorca [2013-10-11 03:29:22 +0000 UTC]

I didn't know you had a deviant art. I know you from tumblr I'm plort there.

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0rcinusorca In reply to Fluffah [2013-10-12 00:03:37 +0000 UTC]

ah. hello. Β Yea, the photo does kinda give it away. Β 

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ReneeScarted [2013-09-15 19:16:19 +0000 UTC]

But nooo, it's so sad Good comic, by the way

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Mouse1994 [2013-09-15 19:10:07 +0000 UTC]

This entire comic kept me intrigued. I loved it until the bitter end. I don't believe this is only true for orcas but most other animals too. Great great work and I hope to see others!!

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1980sbully [2013-09-15 18:46:53 +0000 UTC]

Obviously you need to keep captive orcas that were born in captivity in captivity, they have no idea how to live in the wild. An animal that was taken away as an adult could be set free and survive again, because they grew up in the wild. It's kind of common sense.

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EternalStarTrail [2013-09-15 18:18:19 +0000 UTC]

Poor Luna and Tiko..... This is a very good comic, its a interesting idea for an assignment and does get one thinking.

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inglorious-vikings [2013-09-15 18:14:39 +0000 UTC]

It's a very nice comic and I gotta admit, I really like how you approch the whole subject from another point of view. Most people seem to yell for all orcas in captivity to be set free, but honestly, even if I'm generally more likely against capturing more orcas, I do agree that especially orcas born or having grown up in captivity from a young age also are better off to stay with humans. It's like setting a captivity-born tiger or lionΒ free, they have no idea how to hunt, how to navigate, how to fend for themselves and as far as I know, all captive orcas that have been set free died within a year, so, yeah, I think it's quite a reasonable point you make in the comic.

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wildhorses101 In reply to inglorious-vikings [2013-09-15 18:24:18 +0000 UTC]

I know that the whale in Free Willy2 and 3 was an animation because Kaiko wasn't set free, but he seemed to survive in the wild when they set him free. Well, in a sense. Kaiko is still in captivity but they animated him for the other two movies and he survived.

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inglorious-vikings In reply to wildhorses101 [2013-09-15 18:38:50 +0000 UTC]

Well, Keiko is dead. As far as I know after the movie Free Willy they tried setting him free, because he was kept really bad and in a really bad shape at the time of the movie. They trained him and he was of fairly good shape, when they set him free, yet once free he never managed to find a pod as well as he never really could stop trying to find contact with humans, swimming around in harbours and stuff, not really getting in contact with other orcas and eventually died some years ago. I believe he lived in freedom for some years actually, but I am not sure if it wouldn't have been better to keep him at that semi-freedom area they brought him to after the movie, where he became healthy and of good shape, instead of setting him free compleatly.

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wildhorses101 In reply to inglorious-vikings [2013-09-15 18:50:51 +0000 UTC]

And that's why you never take orcas from the wild. They belong in the wild, not in captivity. Keep the orcas born in captivity in captivity and leave the ones wild wild. It's as simple as that.

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inglorious-vikings In reply to wildhorses101 [2013-09-15 19:10:41 +0000 UTC]

Amen to that!

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wildhorses101 In reply to inglorious-vikings [2013-09-15 19:14:46 +0000 UTC]

^_^ and the only human contact wild orcas should have is if they are beached with oil. That's it. No taking them out of the wild for long periods of time. Heal the3m, then send them bak.

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inglorious-vikings In reply to wildhorses101 [2013-09-15 19:29:40 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, just leave the wild ones wild.

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wildhorses101 In reply to inglorious-vikings [2013-09-15 19:50:22 +0000 UTC]

Glad you agree with me ^_^

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Jegmadarka [2013-09-15 16:53:58 +0000 UTC]

This is a very well made comic! ^^ Love the Orca's, I agree they are probably better in captivity rather then the wild where they can get hunted and killed D:

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sacred-brumby In reply to Jegmadarka [2013-10-08 16:14:11 +0000 UTC]

actually it's been proven scientifically it's the opposite. Their quality of life is degraded in captivity and they live shorter lives

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LadyNyght [2013-09-15 14:24:23 +0000 UTC]

I loved the comic. It's ending isn't so black and white (no pun intended) which I think is very accurate. I'm neither for or against captivity personally as long as long as whatever creature is treated right. I think it's a very grey topic personally butΒ it is a sensitive subject and you handled it wellΒ I think. Nice little mini comic book!Β 




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Rockypockypuff [2013-09-15 14:11:11 +0000 UTC]

The only orca to ever be released was Keiko, who by the way was on the brink of death when they moved him from Mexico. He was trained for a long time to get released and yes, he was not fully introduced to live all by himself in the wild as his pod was not found BUT he survived for five years in the wild, with a bit of help from humans. If he'd found his real pod, I'm sure he'd survive longer.


In my opinion, the wild caught animals deserve a sea pen at least. Still being cared of as they cannot truly survive in the wild on thier own, but being able to feel the waters of where they belong. Also, they should not breed the orcas as frequently as they do, nor keep them so they can cause interbreeding.


But still, a beautiful comic

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AdineArts In reply to Rockypockypuff [2013-09-15 17:37:54 +0000 UTC]

i totally agree with you

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Vaenowa [2013-09-15 12:54:52 +0000 UTC]

Wow, the comic is so well drawn and it's easy to read! Well done! Subject wise, I have to say it's a bit too black-white... (hehe, funny way of speaking) It's true that orca's born in captivity can't just be let loose and expect they can hunt for themselves. That count for every animal though. But, that doesn't mean it's okay to let them stay in a tiny tank and perform for humans. Many sanctuaries have a programm for animals to prepare them for the life outside and they are trained to take care of themselves.
My opinion is that orca's shouldn't be taken captive in the first place. They are huge and the tanks are way too small for such large animals. Many researches have shown that orca's aren't suitable animals to be in captivity and are in fact never tame. They are wild and many will go berserk, like many news reports have shown. They will turn against their trainers and I think people supporting orca's to perform just look away from it. They will even live longer in the wild than in captivity, and usually it's the opposite, so that is definately a sign to me it's not right to keep them. I think the same about tigers, they are not predictable. Some animals can't just be domesticated, how much we would want to.

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Jullelin In reply to Vaenowa [2013-09-15 13:05:48 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you fully.
I am not against orcas in captivity, as long as they are treated good
and they have all the room they need (which is very rare) to swim freely.
I would prefer to see them in the wild, but there is sadly not the money to
place all captive orcas in such facilities to later set them free.

I am neither against or with orcas in captivity, since the subject is very delicate.
But as long as they recieve the care they need... and the room... then it is okay
(I am still not overly happy about them being in captivity).
But what I don't support at all is orcas being caught from the wild even today. That is absolutely not okay.
Breed by all means the captive orcas... but don't bring in wild orcas and seperate them from their family.

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horcrrux In reply to Jullelin [2013-09-22 17:47:24 +0000 UTC]

It's the sad truth that captive orca's cannot just be set free after depending on human care for so long but I have to disagree with you on the matter of orca's being fine in captivity (even captive bred orca's).


Have you watched Blackfish? It's a great documentary and explains a lot about Dawn Brancheau's death and the life of Tilikum, the orca that killed her.Β 


The Death at Seaworld panel is also a great info source. Former trainers have come out and said that they pump antibiotics and all sorts of medicine into the fish fed to the orca's and it's also been suggested (not proven) that they're on anti-depressants.


At least Seaworld isn't responsible for capturing wild orca anymore (as far as i know, they haven't captured one in over 30 years) Β 


Anyway I don't want to argue XD I really like your comic and all your orca art Β 

Also if you haven't seen it..BBC's documentary on Ingrid Visser is such a nice watch ('the woman who swims with killer whales') it shows that orca don't show the same aggressive behaviour in the wild as they do in captivity.

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Vaenowa In reply to Jullelin [2013-09-15 13:33:38 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, definately! It's with all animals born in captivity, they just need their space and room, and friends. I would love to see a huge tank or basin in the future for orca's born in captivity. It's the one thing that bothers me the most.

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Jumperlady [2013-09-15 12:36:59 +0000 UTC]

I think its a good comic and yes no one will say "all dogs or all cats must be free?"Β  because they canΒ΄t live in the wild. Yeah and all other animals that born in our humans world canΒ΄t live free so easily!

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Jullelin In reply to Jumperlady [2013-09-15 12:41:22 +0000 UTC]

That is definitely true. It is as if people would say "turn all horses loose, they are not suppose to be pets!"
They just don't think one bit ahead... what happens if all horses in the world is let loose... well... let's just say you won't have any carrots left in your vegetable patch

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Jian89 [2013-09-15 12:25:09 +0000 UTC]

You have a good point about that


A few years back, I had to do a night shift at a dolphinarium, because one of the females was pregnant and it all went wrong.

(she was young, shouldn't in fact had been pregnant, but nature had sadly decided otherwise)

Without our care and the hard care of her trainers, she would be dead. If that had happened in the wild, she would had been dead.

sadly it was another reason for those outsider idiot to claim that dolphins shouldn't been captured.


But they forgot to realize that these animals (except for one old one, who was a wild captured one) were bred in captivity. They would have NO clue on how to hunt in the wild, how to defend themselves, even on how to act in wildlife.

while maybe some would manage, the main part would die within weeks/months.


So for the people that think keeping these animals in captivity is cruel, think about this.

we humans are taking their seas, their food, their safety with our dirty junk, oil and chemicals, that we kill them, non directly, but we do.

so is it then so bad, to keep the ones born in captivity also with us, with that saving some breeds that are maybe gonna be extinct in the wild over a few years if we don't change how we act now?


So well done on the comic :- both in drawing as making your point ^^


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Chumpi-Champi [2013-09-15 12:21:29 +0000 UTC]

Your Comic turned out wonderfull, you drew excactly the truth of the thing, even if it's sad, well done

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cgmerrygc In reply to Chumpi-Champi [2013-09-17 03:30:40 +0000 UTC]

agreed! such a sad ending but I love the honesty of the whole thing. I just hope Plio wasn't without any companion animals for the rest of his days.

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Jullelin In reply to Chumpi-Champi [2013-09-15 12:29:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much I wanted to show what happens if might happen if a captive orca who has been born in captivity is set free. It would only be cruel to do that to the animal.
By all means, breed orcas in captivity but don't take free orcas and place them in a tank. That isn't ethically right.

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Chumpi-Champi In reply to Jullelin [2013-09-15 12:50:08 +0000 UTC]

You're so right, that's my opinion too

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ScribbleWoof [2013-09-15 12:15:27 +0000 UTC]

omg so sad TT^TT

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Jullelin In reply to ScribbleWoof [2013-09-15 12:20:01 +0000 UTC]

It is... it is just my answer to everyone who say all orcas should just be let loose... weather if they are from the wild or born in captivity.
I do not support orcas in captivity, but neither do I work against them.

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