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Description A few years ago, TrainerKelly had created this stamp to express her feelings regarding shippings/pairings in fandoms. Well, she recently cleaned her gallery, thus this stamp was removed. Yet I asked her permission to repost this stamp in my gallery, and she was okay with it. So with permission from TrainerKelly , I have repost this stamp in my gallery.

Now given I support various crack pairings of Naruto with other women other than Hinata, it's clear why this stamp resonates with me. Ever since I started with Naruto/Tenten in 2009, I always held a belief that I was not ever seeking and wanting to have any of my crack pairings become canon. Not one bit. I like the notion of Naruto with other women, yet it did not mean I believe any of them would happen in canon. It was fun to read fanfics and see fanart of these other pairings, nothing more. It's why I still roll my eyes whenever I get a comment from a hardcore NaruHina fan, who says, "Your pairing will not ever become canon!" Like duh, I know that, I just happen to love my pairings and not seeking to ever have them become canon. Just because I support these pairings does not mean I believe they will happen. Thus why I love this stamp, given it fits who I am as a shipper.

So for all those shippers out there like me, you're welcome to use this stamp in your dA pages, etc. We all know our pairings would/will not ever become canon, it's just fun for us.

Oh... I want to give a big "Thank you!" to TrainerKelly for allowing me to post this stamp. You rock!

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Comments: 50

DeadlyPoisonBeauty [2020-04-01 00:26:28 +0000 UTC]

its the truth

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DaBair [2019-10-09 15:40:57 +0000 UTC]

I have loads of Pokemon ships, butΒ I honestly don't want any Pokemon ships to become canon since Pokemon isn't about romance. If anything, I find it annoying when the writers try to push a ship, like the manga writers did with Wallace and Winona or the anime writers did with Ash and Serena.

Even though I'm not into Naruto, I honestly see Hinata as a better match for him than Sakura. I think Naruto and Sakura's personalities kinda clash (idiot heroes and tsunderes aren't a good match), while Hinata's personality doesn't clash as much with Naruto's. But if people ship Naruto with Sakura, I don't care. Not everyone has to like canon pairings.

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Moonspie [2019-06-02 06:31:29 +0000 UTC]

Oh, yeah! Most of my favorite ships I know will never be canon, and I'd never want them to be! Trust me, I've seen what happens when a pairing I love becomes canon...*shudder*

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HG-The-Hamster [2019-05-15 02:28:43 +0000 UTC]

Honestly I just like writing Bowser Jr and Toadette as an aged up adult couple because it's fun, I really hope in the Mario franchise my OTP more or less becoming really good friends with each other and nothing more.


I just think thier canon forms are a bit to young to exactly "date" and honestly the thought of it makes me cringe a lot. I would rather have them be in my own world as consenting adults because it's easier to express them as a ship that way.

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snowkyu [2019-02-07 21:22:34 +0000 UTC]

me with all my ships lol

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Loli-Kei [2018-03-21 15:27:14 +0000 UTC]

so true! I hate it when people always get pissed when you support a ship that might not happen

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LuVi-Verse [2017-08-24 22:20:01 +0000 UTC]

Exactly.
I mean sure I used to be frustrated/salty about things, but...you know what it's not worth it, what matters is being able to enjoy what you like and do what you want for it (fanwork-wise and such). Shipping to me is just something for fun anyways.

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Naruto-kun487 [2016-11-08 18:34:48 +0000 UTC]

Yes, and look down on the reviews and see that NaruHina fans are the ones to flaming us!

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Queen-of-Ice101 [2016-11-04 04:53:44 +0000 UTC]

Yaas. I like several crack ships, but I am well aware they will never become cannon.Β 

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FoxBluereaver [2016-10-17 12:57:43 +0000 UTC]

Everyone is bound to have at least one of those, after all XD

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ayakolove300 [2016-10-01 13:55:13 +0000 UTC]

Yea I thought that too with Ichigo & rukia LoL

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superftmn [2016-09-24 11:21:47 +0000 UTC]

Uncle Leo and Fawkes. The ship to end all shipping.

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dark-kunoichi92 [2016-09-23 16:03:26 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely! Β It's called CRACK shipping for a reason.

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TrainerKelly [2016-09-19 03:31:35 +0000 UTC]

=] Thank you for giving me credit and I'm glad it really spoke to you! I'm happy to see someone else post it for others to share their own thoughts and opinions.

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JuPMod In reply to TrainerKelly [2016-09-19 09:01:06 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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Chichison1234 [2016-09-18 23:01:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeeah I have so many questionable pairings, I know that they will never be canon BUT.. Some canon fans will get triggered/salty over my questionable pairings haha..

So basically saying, I agree with this stamp.Β 

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Eggheadcobra [2016-09-18 22:48:14 +0000 UTC]

Spoken well by both you, and TrainerKelly

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Jack-Inqu13 [2016-09-18 21:02:14 +0000 UTC]

Well said.

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spiderxand [2016-09-18 19:36:51 +0000 UTC]

Could you send it to me? Please & thank you. 😊

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JuPMod In reply to spiderxand [2016-09-18 19:44:38 +0000 UTC]

You can copy it or press 'download' on the right-side column.

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spiderxand In reply to JuPMod [2016-09-19 01:09:08 +0000 UTC]

Thank you. 😊

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Lady1Venus [2016-09-18 19:08:35 +0000 UTC]

that's a very good stamp to work with. used on my profile

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Koshej [2016-09-18 19:06:04 +0000 UTC]

The only crack ship I oppose, is NaruSaku - both for how illogical it is in-canon (NaruTen is just unpredictable, like ChoKarui, it could happen in-canon, despite how unfair it would have been; on the other hand, NaruSaku is actually ANTI-canon altogether, you'd need to infuse Sakura with OVER 9000 levels of AU and OOC for it to actually happen) and for how much its shippers hate Hinata (which is beyond dumb by itself, but much more so for *Sakura* fans).

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Koshej [2016-09-19 01:54:06 +0000 UTC]

Maybe the reason that NaruSaku fans dislike NaruHina is:

1-Hinata had zero relevance to the story save once.
2-NaruHina is not built on any relationship while NaruSaku actually has it.
3-Hinata did absolutely nothing until Chuunin exam and Pein arcs.
4-Most NaruHina fans are the ones that start flaming others.
5-The story has it that the canon ending, NaruHina, is the anti-canon ending, due to the terrible development of Hinata.
6-Sakura actually grew and became stronger while Hinata stagnated.
7-Any power Hinata gains was never earned, it was given to her on a silver platter. This is primarily seen in the movie.
8-Any power that Hinata did gain on her own was not as good as anyone else, indicating that Sakura, Ino, and TenTen trained harder and longer for a goal while Hinata, again, stagnated.
9-Hinata never saved anyone. Everyone that Sakura saved during the Pein arc would have been killed and Naruto would have died if Minato hadn't planned ahead by adding a reset button.
10-Naruto's personality is based on someone that can walk beside him, such as argue or tell him when he's wrong. Hinata doesn't do this but Sakura does.
11-NaruHina has no build up that doesn't revolve around Naruto being guilt-ridden.
12-Most NaurHina fans make Sakura OOC and say it's canon, then complain about NaruSaku, when they portray her accurately, for being the pairing.
13-Most NaruHina fans will say 'you suck' for simply pairing NaruSaku.
14-Most NaruHina fans consider it a travesty to suggest or consider Naruto with anyone but Hinata.
15-Most NaruHina fans consider it a travesty to think that Hinata is selfish or has flaws.
16-Supporting point 15, Hinata never actually said or desired to free the Hyuuga clan. Her only goal was marrying Naruto.
17-Most NaruHina fans consider it a travesty or blaspheme to consider or offer that Hinata would have turned out exactly or more so like early Sakura if Ino had helped Hinata from bullies instead of Naruto.
18-Most NaruHina fans will also consider it a travesty or blaspheme to consider that Sakura would have married or dated Naruto had he helped her from bullies.
19-Most NaruHina fans completely ignore that Sakura, Tsunade, and Kushina all have common traits of being rough, compassionate, and beautiful women.
20-Most NaruHina fans are more likely voting for Hinata because she did nothing to help Naruto for most of his life because she didn't hit him.
21-Most NaruHina fans judge Sakura not by her character growth, but by the first appearance.
22-Most NaruHina fans prefer the stupidly cliche hero gets the princess or princess like individual.
23-Most NaruHina fans say NaruSaku fans are crazy and anti-canon with no real proof.

Take your pick, there's probably more that I can think of. I don't hate Hinata, but I think if Kishimoto, Β instead of Studio Pierrot, chose the pairing it would be NaruSaku. Too many hints to be a red herring and Kishimoto only gave the 'public answer' that Studio Pierrot told him to say. The movies tend to be more filler anyway, and that's also adding that if Naruto did love Hinata, then why didn't he remember rescue her from bullies and being in love when he was young and talk with her before graduation?

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Koshej In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-09-19 03:08:26 +0000 UTC]

1. Saved Naruto THREE times by directly influencing his behavior - Neji, Pain, Obito.
2. If you mean the tsunderism "hits equals loves", of course; Sakura has made fun of Naruto being an orphan.
3. While Sakura did a lot - of crying and shaking, that is.
4. Yeah, it's us who send Kishi death threats and petitions for rewriting the epilogue.
5. From an insecure stutterer to the Byakugan Princess - yup, no development at all, compared to the mother who destroyed her own house in a fit of rage.
6. Sakura went LegendarySuperSaiyan - just like Brolly.
7. Which is why I hate Kishi for never using that Hamura's heritage of Hinata's the right way altogether.
8. Yes, having a personal jutsu in a clan full of actual characters - is a zero feat.
9. Naruto openly said that Hinata saved him twice already, but you must be more correct than him, of course.
10. Sakura can't even tell herself to do the right thing most of the time, but beating someone up is surely the correct mode of behavior.
11. For not having seen the awesome supportive girl by his side all those years ago, you mean.
12. This is exactly the inversed from real life fan behavior.
13. Suckura is to blame for it, indeed.
14. It's apparently a sin to be in love with the main character - if you aren't an aggressive bitch, that is.
15. Learn to read the manga, Naruto himself answers this in the negative.
16. Since when is it her duty anyways, it's actually Hiashi's much more so.
17. RTNata looks at you with wonder.
18. If she turned out less of a brainless bitch fangirl, I wouldn't mind that.
19. And psychos, but Kushina at least acknowledges that as a BAD trait.
20. Nope, my major beef with Sakura is that she failed to act upon demand - like when she failed to destroy Obito's Rinnegan, or kill Sasuke after poisoning her own teammates.
21. Seeing how her last appearance is that of a house-wrecking psycho, you said nonsense here.
22. Princess on the inside, not princess on the outside - and Sasuke is the Prince in this case, for Sakura.
23. Exactly - "anti-canon with no proof to back that up", just like 24-out-of-23 of your "points".
You're funny, bozo.

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Koshej [2016-09-19 13:20:04 +0000 UTC]

1-Naruto dislikes bullies, and Neji was a bully at the time. The chuunin exams just brought this out.
2-Sakura wasn't as well trained because Kakashi had no experience teaching and was a poor teacher.
3-Tsunderism isn't hits equals love, but not initially accepting the possibility of liking someone.
4-Actually, it is if you have the ability to say 'you suck because Sakura is in the pairing' for fanfiction authors, then you are more then likely to send death threats to Kishimoto.
5-Sakura was even more insecure then Hinata, and still became an excellent kunoichi and woman.
6-Sakura was actually trained by Tsunade to have more strength. Hinata never truly sought additional training.
7-Something we can agree on, so no real argument.
8-Naruto's behavior was not changed by Hinata. It was a combination of Iruka, for believing in him, and Haku for giving Naruto the idea of protecting those that are precious.
9-The personal jutsu is filler-only, and thus is the same as never truly existing as it was never used anytime in canon.
10-Sakura is human, and many of the decisions she's came across are more hard decision.
11-Hitting someone once does not constitute beating someone once. Everytime Sakura hit Naruto he was being rude, especially in a world based on a society where executions could have happened for bluntness without some sort of recompense.
12-Being there and interacting are two different things. If Hinata actually interacted with Naruto, then there might've been something believable. Instead she did nothing, which is the same as doing evil.
13-Nope, Sakura is human and normal. Naruto was orphaned and ostracized by everyone else. Saying Sakura is to blame for the bad things is basically playing the blame game, like saying that anime makes people murderers, ditto with games.
14-RTN Hinata was more of a slut then actually interested. She probably thought Naruto was attractive but did not have any real interest.
15-People will make fun of other people when they do not understand or know the position. In fact, lots of people on this site have made fun of autistic people and people in real life has stereotyped things as autistic without really understanding autism. Different thing, same principle.
16-It's not a sin to be in love with the main character, but most NaruHina fans say that Naruto should only be with Hinata, despite the fact that anyone could have replaced her and the story stay the same.
17-The fangirl was part of her insecurity that Ino had helped remove partially, but her attempts at Sasuke were self-assurance, since everyone was after Sasuke only the best girl would win him. That was likely her subconscious logic, since she was initially shyer then Hinata but still became awesome.
18-All of them are not necessarily psychos, when people get annoying enough others get angry. All three would probably admit that they have anger issues and not just one. Tsunade and Sakura act far less violent then most NaruHina fans would portray. Even more so since Tsunade and Sakura are medics, which requires a cool head and compassionate heart in the heat of stress, as well as making difficult decisions.
19-She is a medic, her job is to heal which is harder then destroy. So you think Sakura would have been able to kill Sasuke and Obito, who are much better at combat then her? Sakura didn't kill Sasuke because it would hurt Naruto, even though she tried. Obito wouldn't have let her close enough. Then there's also the moral principles of a medic to heal and restore instead of destroy.
20-Her last appearance was thanks to studio pierrot and NaruHina fans. Thank you for ruining Naruto with your rose-colored version of Hinata. Nana Mizuki was in no part of the decision making process.
21-If I made Disney comparisons of team 7 then: Naruto-Beast, due to initially being a beastly brat out of loneliness. Sakura-Belle, due to the fact that she actually did become good friends with Naruto and would have married him if she didn't feel so guilty about the past. Sasuke-Gaston, Road to Ninja or normal, Sasuke is always Konoha's 'Golden Boy' for simply being the last Uchiha, but always wants things that aren't his.
22-Sasuke never cared for Sakura, and would have likely hypnotized her just to get a last act of vengeance against Naruto. This point, however, is simply speculation due to the fact that Sasuke hated Sakura, or at least never cared if she lived or died. Even in Shippuden he never cared for Sakura and never really liked her.
23-If Sasuke did like her, then he sure had a twisted way of showing it by leaving her unconscious to be raped or murdered, trying to kill her several times, and then just keeping her to show off to Naruto while having a kid with someone else. The only good thing he did was set Sakura on the path away from him by calling her annoying.

See, while I may not have argued all the points, I can argue against you and NaruHina fans with logic and actual canon references. I may be a funny bozo, but it's better then being someone, like many NaruHina fans, who if they can't win or admit that there might be something, then just the others 'funny' 'idiots' or any kind of thing that indicates a lack of intelligence. In fact, it's the fans that do this stupid stuff and the lack of actual development of Hinata that killed it for me that I don't use Hinata in stories outside of being a harem filler. Even then, it would seem more in character for Hinata to become psycho-stalker because she didn't get what she wanted, marry Kiba because she actually knows him while she only knows of Naruto, or simply bow out and not marry. So you have a few choices: keep arguing and see if I can't win, despite possibly having the knowledge that I have heard the arguments before. call me a name and leave it. do both of the previous things. don't replay and walk away, I won't do anything more. agree, which is doubtful. And possibly others that I can't think of. Relationships aren't supposed to be built guilt, but mutual respect. There is no mutual respect in NaruHina, just guilt.

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Koshej In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-09-19 18:41:24 +0000 UTC]

1. So Pain and Obito were bullies too?
2-3. Must be reversed, shows how well you can READ.
2. Which is ALSO "before Exams and before Pain"; your double standards are amazing.
3. Tell that to the trope makers.
4. When have *I* said so? Also, fanfiction writers aren't THE actual author.
5. Kunoichi - maybe, woman - not at all; stop worshiping tsunderism, cause I bet you would NOT want YOUR WIFE to be a tsundere in REAL LIFE.
6. You do realize I refer to *Brolly* as an example for Sakura's Super Growth? Do you even know who that is?
7. ---
8-9. Again your amazing READING SKILLS.
8. Saved as in "literally saved his life", not "changed his view on anything"; you really suck at comprehension.
9. Twin Lion Fists (Juho Soshiken) are "filler"? REALLY??? Should I drop the whole "conversion" right about HERE - cause your ignorance is astounding?
10. Sakura is the most "human" mixture of BAD TRAITS for a female, I agree.
11 or is it 10 again. Hitting someone WHILE FACING the Major Big Enemy, is OK? Interesting, interesting.
12. Numbers skip like goats by you.
13. Should I wait for you to return fro your imaginary world?
14. And of course, YOU are the one to KNOW IT ALL. Amazing, just amazing.
15. I think I'm too tired to track your SKIPPING AROUND NUMBERS - cause you clearly are too stupid to track them YOURSELF.

Claims "canon references" --- calls Juho Soshiken "filler".
Conclusion:

Even your idol FACEPALMS at your stupidity.

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Koshej [2016-09-19 22:59:17 +0000 UTC]

Nope, You're just proving my points of:

1-When most NaruHina fans are confronted with canon, they go to fanon, filler, and the anime which is based on the manga.
2-When they actually have a chance of losing an argument or having the argument drag on, they insult the other person.
3-Always bring in more irrelevant information then needed. The point of this is that Hinata isn't a saint and that canon information, i.e manga, had more towards Naruto and Sakura then Naruto and Hinata.

All you're doing is the same as every major NaruHina fan is doing: blinding themselves to the actual growth of Sakura as a person for a bland character that had potential but was wasted. You want to call me stupid it's your choice. It just makes you look stupid and foolish. I laugh at myself for starting, and laugh harder at you for just proving that you're worst then me. Don't reply to this because this is not me stating a loss, but deciding to end the argument and taking a high ground. Hinata didn't help Naruto but three times, Sakura helped him out through the entire series. Otherwise, Naruto never would have figured out tree climbing, he and Sasuke would have died in the forest of death, Naruto would have been killed several times over without Sakura since her primary skill set was medicine. All in all, you're just pointless to argue with and I should have been smart enough to simply not reply because you shame NaruHina with your Sakura-bashing.

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Koshej In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-09-19 23:34:50 +0000 UTC]

0. Everything below is ONLY MANGA-BASED.
1. Is Juho Soshiken "filler"? Can you name me another confirmed user of it, who isn't Hinata?
2. Name me a single jutsu that is completely unique to Sakura (not just by name, but also by style) and isn't a rename/refurnish of one of Tsunade's.
3. When had Sakura done anything that couldn't be done by anyone else present (like Tsunade being just as capable of doing the CPR, but simply wasn't chosen by Kishi to do so)?
4. Apart from that CPR, when and how had Sakura ever SAVED Naruto's life ON-SCREEN?
5. When was the last time Sakura used Talk-no-Jutsu ON Naruto? When was the last time Naruto complimented Sakura WITHOUT also saying that he was SCARED of her?
6. Scratch that, when did Sakura do anything positive that wasn't her direct DUTY as a ninja and as a teammate? Yes, that INCLUDES her being the TEAM's MEDIC.
7. When had Hinata ever endangered anyone, let alone Naruto - the same way Sakura had endangered Kiba and the others during her failed attempt to "kill" Sasuke?
8. Count the times Hinata was saved by anyone ON-SCREEN, count the times Sakura was saved by Naruto/Sasuke/Kakashi/Lee/etc ON-SCREEN. *COMPARE*.
Let's see you dig your own grave AGAIN.

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Koshej [2016-09-21 20:58:54 +0000 UTC]

I predicted that you would ignore the fact that I decided to end the conversation I started.

Flaws with argument:
Cherry Picking: you deliberately ignore the good qualities of Sakura to present a demonized parody, common among NaruHina trolls as yourself.
Relevancy: many of the arguments have no real revelancy and are too reliant on things not associated to the good or bad of a relationship.
Intentional misleading: by using cherry picking you want to mislead the argument to use of anime filler instead of manga canon.

flaws with NaruHina:
Relevancy: Hinata had no real impact on the plot. She could be replaced by anyone and have it flow as is.
No Relationship base: Hinata has no real reason or base to like Naruto. The only backstory given involves bullies, but there is no implication of Hinata being bullied. Thus no real start to any like or dislike.
Guilt Tripping: Hinata was meant to stay dead, but did not. This would have more meaning to her character. In addition, all the times Hinata came close to death were because of Naruto, forcing him to feel damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. In addition Hinata was canonically saved by: Jounin in the Chuunin exams after provoking Neji. Sakura Haruno in the Pein Arc, and if not Sakura then Pein himself, and Neji Hyuuga in the Shinobi War.
Not Friends: Hinata never made the effort to actually be friends with Naruto. Every time Naruto was about to be in a position where he could say hello, she ran. That indicates that she is stalking him, and most stalkers tend to either stay at a distance, which means she would never had normally confessed, or go to the extreme to get what they, even threatening and killing the object of their obsession.

Sakura positives:
-Sakura did promise to be nicer to Naruto and she did. This is proven several times throughout the series. This examples by giving him aid on the tree climbing exercised when he asked.
-Sakura did NOT have to pursue medicine as her duty. She chose it to help Naruto after realizing the promise of a lifetime was a mistake and unnecessary, as Naruto would have pursued Sauke anyway.
-Sakura protected both Sasuke and Naruto until help arrived. Hinata did not even look for Naruto.
-As for the failed attempt to Kill Sasuke, Kiba and others were never involved. It was Naruto and Sakura, and Naruto loved Sakura to do things that would never see them together because he loves her more then himself.

Other:
-In Japan there is a comedic duo called Tsukomi and Boke, where the one being the Boke would say or do something stupid and/or insensitive because he is foolish, and the Tsukomi would correct the person with a sharp whack on the head. This is relevant because Sakura canonically hit Naruto only once, and only during times he is being more foolish or insensitive then needed to be. She also has apologized on Naruto's behalfnot the person insulted.
-In many manga or anime with a single pairing, the main girl getting angry is usually played off as comedic with exaggerated features. The prime example is in InuYasha when Kagome tells him to sit. Sakura's anger was meant to be her Tsukomi when Naruto goes Boke.
-In addition, most of Sakura being saved is due to Kakashi not really teaching her and expecting her to train herself without any real guidance.
-Naruto being scared of Sakura is not necessarily because he is frightened of her. He realizes that women can be dangerous and beautiful. Sakura getting angry is more of a symbol that he did something wrong and is in trouble.
-Also, Inner Sakura has voiced that Sakura has really agreed with Naruto on several occasions.

Finisher: I will admit to starting off harsh, but I have, at least until now, gave you a degree of respect. I suggest that we both stop this conversation. I doubt you will because you seem to want to troll me to get the last laugh. I am not laughing, as the behavior you are showing is shameful for NaruHina fans in general. I apologize if I let my start get out of hand and if I unintentionally insulted you. However, you are not being logical or objective in the arguments. Sakura has flaws, but also good points if you read the whole story. Hinata has flaws, but isn't necessarily a bad person. As I suggested: do not reply. Let this be as I am trying to take the high road and end what I started.

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Koshej In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-09-22 03:58:04 +0000 UTC]

You would represent ISIS really fine.
Bye.

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Koshej [2016-09-30 03:47:07 +0000 UTC]

I don't, since you are more their thing, considering that you ended every bit of your argument with an insult. Predictable of narcissists, especially since your arguments are more to convince yourself, as you refuse to believe any possibility of being wrong. Also, how is pointing out a flaw in a character related to terrorist group? This just makes your argument even less, since it's more mudslinging and insult rather then actual debate.

Goodbye. Do not reply. Chances are you will since you ignored the request to not reply in the three times I requested it, twice in one post.

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Koshej In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-09-30 07:55:58 +0000 UTC]

It's called fanaticism for a reason - cause it ignores facts and common sense.
Hence the comparison - not about violence, but about the level of rejection of reality.

Oh, and this isn't a reply.
It's a LESSON instead.

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akamatt67 In reply to Koshej [2016-09-20 05:49:54 +0000 UTC]

Lol, glad to see that NH even in victory is as dumb as ever. NH happened not because of anything in the manga, but a strategic business decision that was estimated to be bring in the biggest income yield.

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Koshej In reply to akamatt67 [2016-09-20 17:42:45 +0000 UTC]

Yes, because YOU said so.
BYE.

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akamatt67 In reply to Koshej [2016-09-20 19:22:40 +0000 UTC]

Just remember to keep your shipping nonsense in the past where it belongs, it was because of people like YOU that TrainerKelly and JuPMod had to create stamps like this. Good Day.

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-09-19 02:01:35 +0000 UTC]

Just so you know, this isn't meant to start a flame thing. These are things that I observed through the manga while reading it, and the anime, which has so many fillers with NaruHina and one of them being pointless being there, that it never gets to the main story. The thing involving NaruHina fans flaming people are things that have actually happened. I used to be a NaruHina fan, but then I realized that it wasn't really built on anything. The Last is a lie that is meant to feed us because it bounces around from one thing to another with only a very basic story set and no sense of anything really happening until the climax. Even then it expects us to believe that an Ootsusuki survived but did not take part in the war on either side. Bad storytelling to force NaruHina, which is already done by the droves of bad fans that pretty much grab the torch and pitchfork. I know a few guys that are good examples that accept any potential Naruto pairing within reason. Hinata just didn't receive enough investment to be believable, and is more one-dimensional then any Naruto character as the 'perfect princess'. A little harsh, but that's just my two-cents.

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Koshej In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-09-19 02:51:29 +0000 UTC]

You're funny.

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Koshej [2016-09-19 03:18:35 +0000 UTC]

For speaking facts? Pointing out that there are rarely that one moment that is not an anime filler or movie where Naruto and Hinata actually interacted? Or disclaim that anime had more Sakura hitting Naruto moments when the canon actually had less? Or the fact that there are a plethora of NaruHina lovers that absolutely hate it when you actually prove them wrong? Or that Hinata actually did more damage to Naruto by not being his friend when he needed it? Or that Hinata was more prominent in the anime because of her Japanese Voice Actress being Nana Mizuki, a very popular J-Pop star? Or that Hinata has that classic princess vibe of do not fight unless demanded of others?Β 

Take a pick. There's probably more, since Hinata's sacrifice would've had more impact if she stayed dead, and that's excluding Sakura healing Hinata before Pein's Sacrifice. Go ahead. Tell me that Naruto wasn't about to release the Kyuubi, which is what Akatsuki was going to do, and kill himself and everyone else, only to be stopped by Minato placing a bit of his own chakra to repair the seal when it got to that point? I'm not going to say that some NaruSaku fans have their crazy ones, but there is far more against NaruHina fans in terms of bad fans. They usually have some of the similar thoughts that you presented, that Sakura is only likable out of character despite the out of character being more in character. In layman's terms: They are only seeing one part of Sakura to make Hinata look better in comparison.

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Naruto-kun487 In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-11-08 18:18:59 +0000 UTC]

I read Koshej 's review first...Koshej you tell that NaruSaku fans hate Hinata and this is you who first offended Sakura called her, "Suckura". Then you confirm Wolfpackersson09 's words about NaruHina shippers who flaming others by calling him stupid...and compare him to...ISIS? You're healhy? And moreover you used this sentence "It's called fanaticism for a reason - cause it ignores facts and common sense." - it's apt description...for you Really, read your reviews once again.

8. Count the times Hinata was saved by anyone ON-SCREEN, count the times Sakura was saved by Naruto/Sasuke/Kakashi/Lee/etc ON-SCREEN. *COMPARE*." - yeah, also compare Sakura's and Hinata's time-screen in the canon.

I don't hate Hinata, trust me, but you, NaruHina fans make me sick...you're toxic and flaming all around because people ship Naruto with other girls than Hinata. You think that NaruHina has a lot of fans and it's reason for them to be canon. Dramione also has a lot of fans, and what? They should be canon? Don't make me laugh.

NaruSaku isn't my OTP, it's Naruto x Sāra(Queen from The Lost Tower), but to be honest, I really like NaruSaku and until end I never think that NaruHina is possible. As I said, I don't hate Hinata, it's just, that was clear that Kishimoto wrote way to make it NaruSaku in the end.

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Naruto-kun487 [2016-11-09 02:27:19 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I actually laughed with joy at the fact that there are still people that would stand up for others and actually choose common sense, logical storytelling, and common decency! You'd be surprised at how many NaruHina FANatics there are, and those that do don't really want to listen to logic. In fact, most of them are just going to do a run-around with their arguments just to tear down Sakura and build up Hinata, despite the fact that Hinata is a stalker and probably thought that she and Naruto were destined to be together, and didn't care whether he was happy or not. That's kind of how it came off in canon, and while I'm neutral to Hinata now, I still can't see them as a good couple, due to the lack of actual development to give them substance, and that Hinata is implied to not have changed to have a good working relationship. In fact, it comes off more of Naruto being the one to make the relationship work rather then both. Plus, I did mention cultural relevance in the Tsukkomi and Boke comparison, and that in other series a girl is more likely to get angry when she cares about someone. I know at least two NaruHina fans that are willing to pair Naruto with Sakura and admit that Hinata has flaws, but it's still nice to know that there are people that agree that the way some of these guys act is sickening and toxic.

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Naruto-kun487 In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-11-09 16:17:00 +0000 UTC]

You're right! I often read fanfiction, and even if in summary is written that there is Naruto x other girl, NaruHina fans appear and review with question whether it is NaruHina or why this isn't NaruHina...they're really toxic. Lately I read Naruto x Sakura fic called "Rise of the Rokudaime Hokage" and it's clear that it's about NaruSaku, but NaruHina fans still leave reviews that this is sh.t pairing. Under NaruSaku videos on yt also there are a lot of NaruHina and same toxic as they SasuSaku fans...(BTW video about NaruSaku has the most views on yt than any other Naruto couple).

BTW NaruHina isn't my main reason to hate ending. I remember the beginning of Naruto, when we seen the boy who was hated by the whole village for nothing and was dead-last and I was hoping that he will be the best hero because he admit himself that he want to be Hokage and surpass all previous. Say the truth to me...he surpass them? I don't think so...Kishimoto should focused mainly on Naruto and his development, instead he focused on pathetic avenger who only upset most of fans eith his arrogant behavior. I think that Naruto should killed Sasuke in Valley of the End, and it would be the best proof that he developed from the dead-last to the best shinobi from his class. Then he should handle Akatsuki himself because they was after JINCHUURIKI, so it should be him who defeat them. And at end it should be final fight between him and Madara, if he would beat him himself, then he would proved that he surpass all previous Holages. Don't blame me, I'm just dissapointed because Kishimoto made that fans had big appetite and he ruined this...really, I could exchange more reasons , but I wrote mainly.

And what about world peace?

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Naruto-kun487 [2016-11-09 22:48:35 +0000 UTC]

I actually write stories on FF.net, and some of them are Naruto stories. In any story Sakura is not bashed, and even though I tend to favor harem stories, Sakura is always part of the harem.

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Naruto-kun487 In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-11-09 23:57:53 +0000 UTC]

So, for now I have a few fics to read, but I will read also your stories I think that if I improve my English, I will write fanfic myself.

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Naruto-kun487 [2016-11-10 00:16:29 +0000 UTC]

Cool, and if you ever want any help you can contact me. My Fanfiction.net penname is the same here. I think I managed to improve in some cases.

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Naruto-kun487 In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-11-10 01:42:18 +0000 UTC]

I will, but learn more English first

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Naruto-kun487 [2016-11-10 02:05:04 +0000 UTC]

Okay, good luck, and study hard.

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Naruto-kun487 In reply to Wolfpackersson09 [2016-11-11 00:09:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, and of course I will I can be very stubborn if I want, same as Naruto ^^

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Wolfpackersson09 In reply to Naruto-kun487 [2016-11-11 00:52:12 +0000 UTC]

Cool

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Naruto-kun487 In reply to Naruto-kun487 [2016-11-09 16:43:03 +0000 UTC]

Not to mention that Minato sealed Kyuubi inside him because he wanted Naruto to defeat Madara and Naruto had to go through this whole hatred because of this.

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