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Colors by Thomas Deer!Lineart by me!
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AngelOfDarkness089 [2013-10-18 18:38:59 +0000 UTC]
Amazing work
Whirl's so funny in here
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jumpstart17 [2013-09-20 20:05:20 +0000 UTC]
In all of the comics I've read this HAS Β to be the funniest one, sent both me and the hubby into fits of laughter. Well done!
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ArwingPilot114 [2013-07-05 03:08:40 +0000 UTC]
Okay, I lie, THIS PAGE. THIS PAGE IS THE GREATEST PAGE IN COMIC BOOK HISTORY.
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NuclearConvoy [2013-04-17 02:59:05 +0000 UTC]
I love the way you draw expressions on these robots. I think your transformers art is even better than I had thought it was last I saw it. You're growing into one of my favourite artists these days.
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justpissoffalready [2013-04-03 02:15:01 +0000 UTC]
Not even Trailbreaker is safe from Whirl's douchebaggery.
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dcjosh [2013-04-02 06:04:50 +0000 UTC]
lookin forward to nabbin this!
you guys did an amazing job!
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Lordoffantasy [2013-04-02 02:02:21 +0000 UTC]
i have to ask though what kind of continuity is this one from? original?
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The-Phantom-616 In reply to Lordoffantasy [2013-04-03 13:48:19 +0000 UTC]
It's from IDW's (Comics) G1 reboot. And it's damn good
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Lordoffantasy [2013-04-02 02:01:55 +0000 UTC]
whirl? there are other cybertronians with expressionless cyclops faces?
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zerne15 In reply to Lordoffantasy [2013-05-30 08:21:21 +0000 UTC]
The long story short is that back in the day on Cybertron, there was a criminal punishment based on removing the offender's head and hands and replacing them with faceless cyclopean heads and claws or cannons instead of hands. It was basically a way to forever mark someone as both a criminal and a lower-class citizen. Both Whirl and Shockwave were victims of it.
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Lordoffantasy In reply to zerne15 [2013-05-30 08:48:12 +0000 UTC]
aaah, so that kinda explains it. though what would whirl have done to deserve getting his head remodeled into such a demeaning visage.... yet somehow still interract with other cyberstronian. unless the offense that calls for that is far less extreme than i am thinking.
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zerne15 In reply to Lordoffantasy [2013-05-30 09:23:15 +0000 UTC]
In theory, yes, empurata is supposed to be an absolute last-resort punishment, but Whirl's operation was carried out because the Senate wanted to keep him on hand as an enforcer rather than let him return to civilian life. He used to be a watchmaker, but good luck making watches when you've got claws for hands.
Shockwave, same deal; guy used to be one of the few clean Senators in the system, and actually helped found what became the Autobots with Orion Pax. Not only was he mutilated, he was basically lobotomized - the emotion centers were removed from his brain. His crime: being the only Senator going, "hey, maybe we should shut down the apartheid program" or "you know, just because a guy turns into a drill tank doesn't mean he should be a miner for the rest of his life."
A pretty prominent idea in IDW is that the Decepticons kind of had a point.
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Lordoffantasy In reply to zerne15 [2013-05-30 16:17:15 +0000 UTC]
an idea that i heard was a concept in transformers prime. old megatron had good intentions, but his solutions were far too militaristic to be the proper ones. what was once noble intentions became the goals of a dictator, perhaps worse than what preceded.
....you joking about the watch thing, or did cybertronians, living cybernetic lifeforms, actually need watches?
must wonder how the apartheid system started personally. while yes, some transformesr are more likely to have some preferenced form over others do to their mass and base forms, they are shapeshifters. drill tank could function as a more truck like vehicle if he needed.
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zerne15 In reply to Lordoffantasy [2013-05-31 01:25:51 +0000 UTC]
Essentially, yes. It isn't given too much explanation. I'm guessing the assumption is either that they don't have super-inbuilt chronometers, or that they do and Whirl just happened to be a guy who's good at making them. Or it was just a job roughly analogous to a human watchmaker; someone who works with very small parts that need steady and dextrous hands rather than giant death claws.
The apartheid was sort of interesting. Basically, back in the day, most 'bots were created by forging the body, but when Nova Prime came around, he decided that they needed to start expanding, and created programs for instead constructing new bodies cold. "Forging" vs. "Cold Construction" was a pretty big issue back in the day, since forged bodies were believed to be better, and the forging process occupied a pretty important part of their religion. After Nova Prime disappeared, an apartheid program that basically treated cold-constructed 'bots as second-class citizens came to power. Officially, it's off the books, but it was still fairly recent, to the point that Megatron was even questioned on it (accidentally, even) during his first arrest.
As for changing bodies, that was due to a religion. Functionism was a popular system of belief amongst the privileged elite, and one of its fundamental tenents was that your body was given to you by the Lord Adaptus and whatever you were built with, you should keep for the rest of your life. Good if you're a luxury jet or a race car, not so much if you're a cargo hauler or a sewage cleaner. Certain demographics, most notably what became the cassetteformers, were actually considered disposable.
Body-alteration programs were available, but they were expensive, dubiously legal, and usually had nasty side-effects. For instance, Pneumatix changed his alt-mode from forklift to tank when the war got going, but his fuel consumption skyrocketed, so much so that he was rechristened "Guzzle." Naturally, this meant that an aristocrat could change his body easily, but if you were, say, a payloader who wanted to quit construction and work as an artisan, you were out of luck. It essentially made it impossible for a good swathe of the population to ever advance past menial labor.
Both systems seem to have basically fallen out of favor by the modern day. The Autobots were basically founded by anti-Functionists, and the early Decepticons were often former victims of both apartheid and Functionism. The forge-vs-cold debate was only brought up once in the modern day, when Ratchet discussed the limitations of building replacement hands. Meanwhile, body alteration's become much cheaper and universally accepted; Megatron in particular goes through bodies almost weekly.
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Lordoffantasy In reply to zerne15 [2013-05-31 02:00:51 +0000 UTC]
dear god. this is what i like about transformes though. it has evolved was a concept as simple as, transforming vehcile robots that punch each other, to actually mythos behind it.
i very much do like these concepts. elitism, religion, and all that jazz, functionalism. as the society evolved thigns were put into question that were normally viewed as norms. love it. though i do find some of the idea a little lacking. it shows the transformers far less as entities and sitll jut machines. personally i really like concepts brought up in Transformers Prime. put basically it puts quite a bit of emphasis that the transformers, while mechanical and cybernetic, do possess parallels to organic features. from parts functioning as organs, to said organs being hard to replace, to even having something similar to a genetic code.
......now that would be itneresting. combine up all these features with being as like organics and new questions could be asked. perhaps make it that the forged and cold constructed could even devolve into a racial conflict. the methods were not simply this guy was made different, but was in a way actually different too.
....suddenly i have the image of a cybertronian that looks more like a gi or so transformer oppressing one with the transformers prime aesthetic.........
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zerne15 In reply to Lordoffantasy [2013-05-31 03:06:16 +0000 UTC]
I'm exaggerating somewhat. The real miracle-workers in terms of culture are the current writers, John Barber and James Roberts. Roberts in particular is one of those guys where if a character gets mentioned, you can be absolutely sure that he's already decided on their appearance, background, current location, allegiance, prior connections, occupation, and preference on briefs or boxers. I'd bet money he's got the Secret History of Killmaster, That One Decepticon with the Wand, somewhere on his computer.
But seriously, it's funny how such an absolutely fictional culture can be completely detailed. Cybertronian culture as depicted in Barber/Roberts stories makes most fantasy and sci-fi cultures look barren. They've got religions and histories and superstitions and mythology and philosophies.
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Lordoffantasy In reply to zerne15 [2013-05-31 03:23:16 +0000 UTC]
with transformers, it just had plenty of empty space to fill in. and fill in it did in variuos stories and series....... except for the movies, taht kind dragged transformers back from the point of them being a toy cartoon to the basic concept of the show in the planning stages, and drew dicks all over it.
i do think if they combine the best of the best, which would probably mean ninety percent of all movie material would be excluded, they could make something utterly awesome.
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Lordoffantasy In reply to zerne15 [2013-05-31 03:19:26 +0000 UTC]
look at mass effect series. puts star wars to shame in terms of backstory and mythos, and it only has a dozen or two species in it.
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The-Phantom-616 In reply to Lordoffantasy [2013-04-03 13:46:44 +0000 UTC]
yep theirs Shockwave, Whirl, Shockblast, Shackwave and Glitch
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DrZock In reply to Lordoffantasy [2013-04-02 05:20:46 +0000 UTC]
Ohhh my friend, you have no idea how significant that little statement is.
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Kaijugame In reply to Lordoffantasy [2013-04-02 05:19:56 +0000 UTC]
I think it's just him and Shockwave. All the guide books show everyone else using mouthplates or eye covers.
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Lordoffantasy In reply to Kaijugame [2013-04-02 05:25:07 +0000 UTC]
then why is he called whirl here then?
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Kaijugame In reply to Lordoffantasy [2013-04-02 05:26:10 +0000 UTC]
Because he turns into a helicopter.
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Lordoffantasy In reply to Kaijugame [2013-04-02 05:42:08 +0000 UTC]
and shockwave generally turns into a cannon of some sort.
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