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Published: 2019-06-27 20:36:55 +0000 UTC; Views: 3574; Favourites: 17; Downloads: 0
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(UPDATE: 09/01/2019)
Made a switcheroo with GMK and 2014, added KOTM. That'll be it's definitive place for me among the Godzilla movies.
(UPDATE: 08/26/2019)
Decided to restructure some of the movies, just by a smidge. 
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This was certainly a fun tier list to make! While this is the closest anyone (myself included, lol) will ever get to a defined tier-list for the Godzilla movies, I think all is subject to change. I can see this list being structured slightly differently in the future and may change with more revisits / viewings (particularly KOTM).
Regardless, you guys have fun with the Godzilla Film Tier List yourselves!
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I dunno if I mentioned this, but is the reason why you ranked Invasion Of The Astro Monster higher then Ghidorah The Three Headed Monster was because the Xiliens and the human story?
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Pretty much. I find Astro-Monster to be an engaging story.
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Ah.
Hate to say it though, While I do like the story, the Showa Xiliens were great. But if I could remember back when I watch it, I dunno why, but I didn’t find it quite as enjoyable as Ghidorah’s film.
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Wait, do or don't? You're confusing me with your praise. 
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What I meant to say was that I still think it's a really good film, but I kinda prefer Ghidorah’s film a little more.
Speaking of rewatch, I still really need to rewatch Godzilla 85.
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Ah, gotcha.
G'85 or G'84? Those are almost two different beasts.
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Yeah.
You know which film I’m talking about.
Though tbf, the only difference between the two is that one is addicted to this.
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Mhm, should bring back Dr Pepper Dark Berry for Kong Vs Godzilla.
Thinking about making another tier list on not only Godzilla films? But also any Kaiju films made by Toho?
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That'd be fun... I do have a handful of the other Toho stuff (though mostly their special effects works). I'd be down for that.
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Yeah.
There is one, and oddly enough it has the the Giant Claw and Showa Gamera films, which probably doesn’t count, with the exception of the Heisei trilogy.
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I mean, movies be movies as far as I'm concerned.
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True, true.
Another films I would need to rewatch again is Atragon and Frankenstein Conquers The World. To see if they’re as good as I remember.
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I've only seen
Gojira
King kong vs Godzilla
Godzilla vs Gigan
Godzilla vs King ghidorah
Godzilla vs Mothra
Godzilla vs MechaGoji 2
Godzilla vs SpaceGoji
Godzilla vs Destroyah
GODZILLA 1998
Godzilla 2000
Godzilla vs Megairus
GMK
Godzilla against MechaGoji
Godzilla Tokyo SOS
Godzilla final wars
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Ahh, interesting! Well, there's plenty to enjoy and discover in the other movies you haven't seen yet!
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I find a bit funny that you added GKOTM as part of the Solid ones, LOL, because I remember that you once said that for you it was good and bad at the same time XD. WEither way, just commenting XD.
I find Godzilla vs Destoroyah as the best movie for the 90's Heisei series, really epic way to end a series, LOL.
I do agree 100% that the original Gojira is a masterpiece, after reading about an article about Godzilla's metaphor and symbolism around Japan's nightmarish moments during the WWII after confronting U.S. from back then, etc...I felt the need to watch this movie in its japanese version and I could get this beauty thanks to my dad (R.I.P.) and watched it with him, and both enjoyed the story and the symbolism alike.
Gareth Edwards' Godzilla is Great indeed, but I think it could be Greater if he could never take the frigging decision of restraining the fight scenes of both Godzilla and the male MUTO back in Hawaii and San Francisco, LOL.
When you mention here Godzilla vs Gigan, Destroy all Monsters and Monster Planet as part of the Underwhelming ones, reminds me how it took me to keep my eyes opened and don't sleep or jut find them sorta boring. Except for Godzilla x Megaguirus and Godzilla vs Mothra 1992, I found these both enjoyable in my opinion. I think Battra could have a chance to shine in Rebirth of Mothra trilogy as a Guardian for Belvera, LOL.
Godzilla 2000 is not a great movie despite being from the same director who filmed Godzilla vs Destoroyah, I felt this guy expired out from ideas or creativity here, specially in the special effects. I think the Manga version has much better development.
Godzilla vs Hedorah turned into part of my top favourite Showa Godzilla films list after watching that interview with Yoshimistu Banno from ScifiJapan..since then I desired to see more ecologic themed kaiju films from him, expecting to learn ans see some concept arts from Deathla and Midora..
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I’ve not seen many Godzilla movies, but I actually think the anime films are worse than ‘98 due to failing to understand why we watch Kaiju films in the first place, but my opinion is right and so is yours.
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I think the idea was to take the films in a radically different direction--not an inherently bad thing. I think it's good to have a story or series focus less on kaiju and more on the philosophy of kaiju. But a lot of it is more superficial than anything truly complex or meaningful. It's why Part 2 is my favorite of the trilogy, particularly with the climax. Had the rest of the series matched that moment, I don't think there would be much complaining with the lack of monster fights.
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OK. I don't mind a new direction either (heck, what I think is one of the defining features of Godzilla is that he's had so many roles), but I think that the specific changes they made would never had worked. I found Planet of the Monsters to be decent (if not taking full advantage of its concept of an entire planet full of Kaiju) but City on the Edge of Battle was rather bad in my opinion because it basically just repeated the last one, it just felt like set-up for the third movie (which I didn't even get through the first 20 minutes of, by the way) and they teased Mechagodzilla without even having him fight Godzilla, which is rather terrible in my opinion. If you're going to tease a fan-favourite character for the next movie, then he needs to actually do something. It's like if in Captain America Civil War Spiderman showed up but he was dead and Iron Man just stole his web shooters to fight Captain America. Jeez, I've just realised how ranty that got there, sorry about that. I didn't actually know I hated the anime trilogy that much
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Oh no, not in the least. I get the backlash City got because of its Mechagodzilla tease and barely having the character in there. That, and the retreading plot from the previous movie did not help matters in the least. Those are its biggest flaws, and the sad part is that Mechagodzilla City is a fantastic concept. What a unique and original interpretation to the character. Problem is, not much is done with it. I think the major fix to MG City would be to mostly redesign it. Rather than have it be just spherical structures (though to my understanding, this is an Easter egg to Terror of Mechagodzilla with Mugal's floorplans to the "New Tokyo"--honestly, a clever reference), there needed to be more emphasis of Mechagodzilla's design interwoven into the city. That is to say, where are the jagged dorsal plates? Why not have all the lights in the building be Mechagodzilla's eyes? Why didn't they incorporate MG's weaponry during their fight against Godzilla? There just needed to be more of him present in the city. It's kinda why I don't hold Planet of the Monsters in the highest regard. You could literally cut out Godzilla Filius and done something different than a one-time red herring.
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Yeah, I think they could have at least done what you did with MG. I still argue that having it actually fight Godzilla would have been the best thing, though. Hiroyuki Seshita’s comments on fans who criticised the anime trilogy certainly didn’t help matters in my mind, though 😬
On a lighter note, I think that the one thing that unites all Godzilla fans is that the original is S Tier! It’s actually got my favourite scene of any Godzilla movie (the bit where the mother tells her kids they’ll be with their father soon as Godzilla approaches...huh, I did say this was lighter didn’t I? 😂), which scene is your favourite?
I actually wish they made a tier list for other giant monster movies as well (the director’s cut of the 80s Little Shop of Horrors and The Beast from 20000 Fathoms would be in S Tier on that one for me).
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Aye, director comments only sparked fuel to the fire... Ugh.
*Most* Godzilla fans.
Well, I'm sure someone's made one... If not, it'll come around soon enough.
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Huh, I didn’t actually know that G-fans who didn’t like the original movie existed. It really is a fantastic movie, the only issue I have with it is that darn puppet they use for close-up shots as it just doesn’t look good (though admittedly this was the 50s and they didn’t exactly have a huge budget, I honestly feel guilty for criticising that part of the film 😬).
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I think the puppet looks frightening, tbh... Something off-putting about it. Though not just lower budget, but an *extremely* tight schedule IIRC (6 months, I think?). Tsuburaya's ingenuity is what really saved it.
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Only 6 months?! As I said before, I feel guilty about criticising the puppet, but it’s also because I honestly admire the people who made the original Godzilla, particularly Haruo Nakajima (what else can you say about a guy who agreed to walk around inside a concrete suit which they had to drain a cup of his sweat out of every day and then came back to do it again (and I know the later suits weren’t the same weight, but you think someone wouldn’t want to see Godzilla again after that experience)) though I admire the tenacity of all the people who worked on it.
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Yup. Keep in mind that pretty much all their tokusatsu movies were pretty much made on a yearly basis. That production crew knew how to keep busy!
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Yeah, I will have to agree that Godzilla Final Wars is appropriate to be called average.
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Mostly on the merit of its leaps in logic and poorly constructed storytelling. But hot dang, ya can't say the movie's freakin' fun.
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Would have been allot better if the story was better written, the Kaiju fights not being too brief, and maybe make it a sequel to either DAM, Godzilla Vs Destoroyah or something rather then making it a one off universe that doesn’t even have any connections to Gojira.
But I think the biggest problem is kinda the same problem with DAM, is that theres too many monsters, which could really increase the budget. And it kinda hurts since if I could remember, the whole film wasn’t huge hit.
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The anime are some of the lowest ones for me. I Utterly abhor the treatment of classic monsters \such as my boi Anguirus and the horrible designs. Not to mention it's attempts of philosophy often are too heavy handed and there are some notable contradictions in the lore.
And yes making Godzilla a plant was too far, the character is ironic becuse he's an atomic prehistoric reptile, that should not be changed (They never change Superman, Batman of the Hulk heavily, and yet you can still tell new and interesting stories with them).
But the worst part for me is that the made him unsympathetic, a complaint I surprisingly don't here often. To me, Godzilla should always be a tragic character whom the audience can feel bad for.
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I can easily see all of that. I don't mind taking the series in a bold, different direction, but it's flawed execution really brought the whole thing down. Between some elements that are ultimately unnecessary (like most of the monsters, could've just narrowed it down to Godzilla, MG, Mothra, and Ghidorah... And even then, Mothra's kinda optional 
I don't think changing him to a plant creature is a bad idea; there's a ton of creativity you can do with it. It just so happens that the movies do *nothing* with it, ultimately making the change pointless. And I don't think Godzilla needs to be sympathetic or the central focus to make the movies interesting; but if you're going to deviate from monster wrestling and make it a Moby Dick narrative, the characters *need* to be interesting. Unfortunately, most of them fall flat.
Funny thing is, there's a super easy way you *could've* made G-Earth sympathetic; have his arc be avenging Filius. I know that's a trope that's done to death, but it would ultimately justify Filius' spot in the story. Also, going to say this now, Filius was pointless. It's a bad twist that steals unnecessary time in the overall big picture.
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Yah I tend to not shut up when I should, sorry bout that.
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It's not a problem, my dude. 
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Yeah some people just dislike it becuse he's a plant, and well thats part of it for me I think that's stupid to solely base your opinion on. I actually dig the whole Pseudo-supernatural world tree concept, but ideally I would have made him an archosaurian beast or hyper-evolved reptile with a symbiotic relationship with plants.
And as a guy who likes bulkier/chubbier Godzilla's, even I think he needed some slimming down to look more practical. Well I know it would be controversial, I would have personally thought about how interesting it would have been if they gave him dtag-like antlers to fully complete that 'Forest God' motif.
That being said there are good parts (Pardon me as I go off on yet another tangent XD).
Good Thing Number #1.
Some of the most interesting scene in the movie for me are actually WHEN he's standing around and sleeping, just chilling with nature. It gave of the feel of him being the planet's gaurdian, a creature whom is only fierce when he feels his home is threatened.
And I feel those scenes could've been used to have given him more character....basically I would have wanted a story that showed both sides of the equation, like maybe give Godzilla some flashbacks to show his more primitive view on humanity's devastation of Earth and how it impacted him directly.
Well Final Wars is by no means a good movie (It is however a FUN as hell movie), I always did like the concept that Godzilla can forgive mankind, and feel that would have made an interesting final wrap up on the anime's story. But the Anime just decided to make him a ruthless genocidal abomination instead, which I feel was a poor choice and really throws of those quite atmospheric scenes for me.
Good Thing Number #2.
King Ghidorah being an eldritch god was a VERY cool idea. I do think he should have looked more traditional and intimidating, as I won't admit when I watched the film and he showed his true form....I laughed. His heads look like gator clips attached to noodles. Not to mention aside from a cheap ability, he...was kind of weak in battle.
Good Thing Number #3.
I kind of REALLY dig the soundtrack.
Good Thing Number #4.
I actually looks certain pieces of the lore, minus all my favourite kaiju getting axed by human weapons, the contridctions the fact that Godzilla was so OP he's actually kind of boring in this universe.
But that's just my two cents.
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Your reason #1 is actually really interesting to me.
But I do have to say, the tie-in novels are easily the best things to happen from this current anime series.
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Thanks, i've honestly put a lot more thought into the anime than I ever thought I would XD. You do have a point, the were easily the best part, my criticisms aside.
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And that's a good thing! Being analytical I think helps inform and shape your opinion on the matter, or even taking other's viewpoints into consideration (assuming they're constructed).
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Oh believe me, the plant thing is the least of my issues. The height is also overkill and they do nothing with it, as there are no buildings to compare him to, making the decision to make him 318 meters rather pointless. I Think there are better ways of changing things up though. I've always wanted to see a continuity were Godzilla is a genetically created creature gone wrong in the vein of Jurassic Park. The IDea of Godzilla being ever evolving like in Shin is an idea I love
I never said he needed to by sympathetic. But I do think it is a great part of his character to give him some tragedy and makes him more than just a movie monster. Especially since ALL Godzilla's are sympathetic to some degree up until Shin Godzilla, and even than there are arguments as to why he still could be.
To me it actually would have made many of the themes in the anime much stronger if they showed a sympathetic side to Godzilla, like maybe he shows a softer side to non-human life, and maybe it was humanity that provoked him in the first place.
GMK is a great film, although than again it's implied that it's just the 1954 Godzilla (Whom is woefully sympathetic, smarter people than I have written Essays on how)'s corpse being possessed, and even than you understand the spirits motive.
Filus was a hot garbage idea.
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How is Godzilla’s Revenge above any of the other films?
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Simple: It's smarter than people give it credit for. The film very much is a commentary of the effect Japan's industrial boom had on families and it shows the struggles of being a young kid; especially considering Ichiro is a Godzilla fan. It has a really strong meta and the film itself is a nice genre switch, one set in a world where Godzilla's purely a fictitious character. Even the use of stock footage I think is better implemented than the other entries that do. To reiterate, Ichiro's a Godzilla fan; he's probably seen these movies so many times, it's ingrained in his subconscious.
I think most of the hate for the film stems from the fact that it is still geared with a younger audience in mind. This is still a kids movie, after all. Plus, I think the ending, which I have no doubt was meant to be a positive message about being independent and doing what you want, might not hold up as well in the midst of today's PC culture.
And the kicker to all this? Godzilla's Revenge was one of Ishiro Honda's favorite Godzilla films right behind the original. Let that one sink in.
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You actually bring a good point. I like Gabara but I hate Minilla talking. How it's aimed at kids is fine and it's a good message but as a Godzilla film, it just doesn't feel well...real. It feels like one of those Godzilla Anime ovas. But you bring up a point and I now have a little more respect for that film.
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I think as a Godzilla film, it's an excellent genre switch. After so many "Godzilla vs. Other Monster" or "Alien Invasion" storylines, having a more meta take on Godzilla is more than a welcomed change of pace. I think it's very fitting that it "doesn't feel real" in a way. And that's kind of the cool part about Godzilla as a whole. There's a lot of variety and can appeal to a broad range of tastes. For as many Versus movies there are, each of them still have something different to set them apart from the others, even if storylines and plot points are re-used.
In no way am I to say that G's Revenge is perfect by all means. It's still corny, still silly, and Dub Minilla is cheesy as all heck (or annoying, depending on your outlook). It's not a film that holds the test of time (a lot of movies don't, and not just Godzilla) and that's why I gave it a Solid rating as opposed to a Great, even if I wanted to. I just hope people who hate Godzilla's Revenge can give it another shot, especially understanding what the film is trying to convey (and Honda's mentality behind the project). It's why I can't find room to move G'98 above the rank it's at; it is a Godzilla movie with no soul. Even Godzilla's Revenge, one has to admit, at least has the soul of Godzilla put into it; just viewed from a very different lens.
On an unrelated note, might need to move Son of Godzilla up a notch, too. There are some minor alterations I'd like to do in due time.
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Cool tier list there! I do agree that Godzilla vs Hedorah is solid!! For my taste GKOTM is between great and solid. The worst for me are Godzilla Monster Planet and FRAUDZILLA..Godzilla anime film was a freakin waste of creativity and potential..I always thought that a Godzilla anime film would be great, but instead it was boring LOL, at least for me XD
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I feel ya. While I didn't mind the philosophical aspect it was going for, I feel even that element could've been much stronger. But I also know that it was meant to be a TV series, but Toho nudged them to make it into three movies instead. While this definitely wouldn't have solved the fighting issue (mostly because Toho wanted to deviate from "traditional monster wrestling"), I think the TV format would've helped with character development and the time spent with these characters.
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Yes, judging the content it was more for a tv series than for a film trilogy, I thought it was going to be a bomb specially after revealing a way huge kaiju roster and the plot, but the problem is that at the beginning of the film all of them were erradicated an the rst of the film was so boring..., while the big freaking action occurred in the prequel novel only..and as far as I love human action in anime, it was still annoying in this one. The ones who have done a better kaiju anime are from Tsuburaya and it was SSSS GRIDMAN, LOL. And I fear to say this but other monster cartoon that is better than this anime film it's G98 the animated series.
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Aye, aye, I gotcha dude. It has interesting ideas, and I think the climax to the second film was incredibly well done, but the anime trilogy isn't for everyone for sure.
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Well, I haven't seen the the rest of the anime films, so I just gave my personal opinion about the first one, LOL. I 'll have to watch the rest of the trilogy and determine if I like them, LOL
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Aye, the first one's a bit weak. I think the other two are stronger, but then again I'm also in the minority of people who actually enjoyed the second one.
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