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Published: 2019-06-27 20:36:55 +0000 UTC; Views: 3574; Favourites: 17; Downloads: 0
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(UPDATE: 09/01/2019)

Made a switcheroo with GMK and 2014, added KOTM. That'll be it's definitive place for me among the Godzilla movies.

(UPDATE: 08/26/2019)

Decided to restructure some of the movies, just by a smidge. If you want to view the old version, I have it right here. Then there were those I'll need to revisit with fresh new eyes.
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This was certainly a fun tier list to make! While this is the closest anyone (myself included, lol) will ever get to a defined tier-list for the Godzilla movies, I think all is subject to change. I can see this list being structured slightly differently in the future and may change with more revisits / viewings (particularly KOTM).

Regardless, you guys have fun with the Godzilla Film Tier List  yourselves!

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Comments: 91

Mexicankaiju In reply to ??? [2019-06-30 16:45:16 +0000 UTC]

Yes I heard a lot of issues and complains about the second movie,specially because of MG. But since I haven't seen it yet like I said LOL, I'll try it one day   

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Godzilla1990s In reply to ??? [2019-06-28 02:48:10 +0000 UTC]

I love Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II. It's my favorite. Happy to see it's near the top. I also love Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, Destoroyah, and Biollante. Nice list!

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kaijulord21 In reply to ??? [2019-06-27 22:10:23 +0000 UTC]

You gave destroy all monsters, a D rating!! I consider it one of my top five Toho films!
But that’s my opinion, and diversity is what makes the world flat and hollow, run by lizard people.

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KaijuX In reply to kaijulord21 [2019-06-27 22:30:04 +0000 UTC]

It's perfectly fine if you love DAM. Everyone's going to be inevitably different in how they experience Godzilla and rank them differently. For me, DAM is just a carbon-copy of Monster Zero, only with more monsters. Unfortunately, DAM lacks any significant character really worth investing in and the Kilaaks aren't as interesting to me as the Xiliens.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-27 23:24:20 +0000 UTC]

And its like the more monsters there are like more then four monsters, the more they’re gonna be cameos. And it would have been nice if they had repaired the suits of Baragon and Varan so they could have more scenes.

But aside from the flaws of this ok film, I still have fun watching it, especially the final battle with Ghidorah.

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-28 00:53:52 +0000 UTC]

That's generally what happens when you add a bunch of monsters. The focus of "all monsters" spreads their screentime thin. That's definitely a pro I'll give in KOTM's favor; it at least kept focus on the core four (Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, Ghidorah) and had everyone else as salad dressing, if you will.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-28 01:20:14 +0000 UTC]

Exactly.

I’d say for KOTM’s favor, keep the main four and keep Behemoth and the new MUTO, while give the two a smaller role, but a few more scenes.

As for DAM, I’d say take out Minilla, Kumonga and maybe Mothra. Idk, I really like the monsters in DAM that its hard for me to choose which one to take out.

But for Final Wars, I’d say the only monsters that should have stayed are Godzilla, Manda (might be biased since I really love his redesign), Mothra, Gigan, Anguirus, Rodan, King Caesar, Hedorah and either give us Monster X and not make Keizer Ghidorah a thing or just give us King Ghidorah. Everyone else just felt pointless other then to make Godzilla feel the strongest by just knocking them out like he’s One Punch Man in a nutshell.

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-28 09:50:06 +0000 UTC]

I think the extended cut might give the minor monsters more to do. We'll see.

The problem with DAM is that there isn't a focus on one particular monster or a set of monsters. You also have to keep in mind that DAM was meant to be the last hurrah of sorts, so removing said monsters would be undercutting it, even if it would help give some monsters extra screentime. I think the only *real* solution is giving them a bigger budget and slightly more time for extra monster scenes to make up for it.

For FW, I'd have to agree with you on that. Godzilla, Mothra, Gigan, and Monster X (with Keizer Ghidorah) should've been the primary focus. While I don't mind having the other monsters there, if they were meant to be cannon fodder, I'd say remove Rodan, Anguirus, King Caesar, and Hedorah and call it good.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-28 13:36:48 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, an extended cut would be nice. That or giving the film another year or more so they can have a higher budget.

The reason of the three to stay is not only their roles would be the same, but what if they showed up to fight alongside with Godzilla? Hence why Hedorah could also show up. Godzilla and Anguirus would focus on Monster X, Rodan and Mothra focus on Gigan, and King Caesar would focus on Hedorah and manage to beat him by, I dunno, using his reflective eyes to reflect Hedorah’s eye beam?

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-28 21:37:29 +0000 UTC]

Aye, aye, I can see that. The important part is to give focus to a select few and let everyone else be supplements. KOTM did that nicely. Man, I remember back in my youth (of like 2-5 years ago ) of trying to get a GFW doujinshi off the ground. Never got anywhere, but I had a lot of crazy ideas.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-28 23:08:24 +0000 UTC]

Mhm.

Only cameo that I didn’t minded was Manda, mostly because I just really love his draconic redesign, probably the best FW redesigns next to Gigan. Really makes me wish for SHMA figure of him.

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Kaijuemperor In reply to ??? [2019-06-27 21:59:19 +0000 UTC]

Why the hell is KOTM so low yet the anime trilogy are higher?!

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KaijuX In reply to Kaijuemperor [2019-06-27 22:11:24 +0000 UTC]

Not the whole trilogy, just the latter two. Honestly, KOTM didn't click with me; for now, I'm mixed. Don't get me wrong, it was enjoyable and I'd still recommend it. I currently just don't hold it to the same standard as everyone else. Unfortunately, I don't have an convenient method of being able to rewatch the film, so it's hard for me to say with absolutely certainty if that's the case. I feel like KOTM might go higher up if I see it again, but only time will tell on that.

If you want more in-depth thoughts as to why, just check out the TK impressions blog. I'm the third review going down--or the first "mixed" review.
www.tohokingdom.com/blog/godzi…

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SpaceG92 [2019-06-27 21:49:46 +0000 UTC]

Seeing KOTM so low makes me cry.

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KaijuX In reply to SpaceG92 [2019-06-27 22:12:30 +0000 UTC]

Just didn't click. But hey, rewatching it might help (but I currently don't have a quick way to doing so, I'll have to wait for the Blu-Ray).

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SpaceG92 In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-27 22:47:41 +0000 UTC]

REEEEEEEE

Atleast it didnt click. Dude, some people just want another 54 and NOTHING else. They hated Shin, Anime Trilogy, and KOTM. However LOVE G14. Fricken whaT?

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KaijuX In reply to SpaceG92 [2019-06-28 00:54:35 +0000 UTC]

You're telling me. As I've said already, I think the film will probably grow on me. At least, I hope it does.

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SpaceG92 In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-28 00:59:57 +0000 UTC]

IT BETTER!

*threatening fist*

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to ??? [2019-06-27 21:03:35 +0000 UTC]

Even though Godzilla Vs Mothra (1992) wasn't as great as the original, at least the ost was amazing, probably around my favorites.

Also, what made you consider the two anime films to be solid and Godzilla Vs Spacegodzilla average?

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-27 22:20:46 +0000 UTC]

Planet Eater finally did something unique and had a really nice tone and interpretation of King Ghidorah. City, for as much slack it gets for retreading the same grounds (which I fully agree, which is why it isn't higher), at least has more character (even if slightly) and philosophical debates that had my ears glued. In many ways, it's much how I would have preferred the first movie being handled; but I do get the set up was needed. I will also say, in City's defense, that climax was an emotional rollercoaster that *finally* put Haruo through the wringer and almost worth the price of admission right there.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-27 22:28:59 +0000 UTC]

I see, well, I actually say that Planet Eater is actually the worst of the series because in all honesty, I lost it and easily considered the film and the trilogy the worst in the series when I saw the ending. I think it was gonna go for a shock value moment where it would leave the audience shocked, but it did it in a bad way that made Haruo the worst character in the series and the least developed main lead, less developed then freaking Ichiro!

I mean, whats the point of committing suicide when you could have just let the past go?!

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-27 22:36:26 +0000 UTC]

I disagree, Haruo changes through the entire trilogy. That's undeniable. Now whether you don't like how it was handled, that's a different story. But I find it hard to believe he's less developed than Ichiro; he certainly goes through his trials and errors.

While yes, letting it go would've been the more ideal option, keep in mind that both Mechagodzilla and Ghidorah posed a threat. If they reanimated the Vulture, Mechagodzilla could still do them in. And as long as Haruo lived, Ghidorah could return. He killed himself to save everyone else by taking out two birds with one stone.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-27 23:11:13 +0000 UTC]

Huh, well its mostly because I don’t like how it’s handled.

But what if they somehow in someway, reprogrammed Mechagodzilla to make sure that the Nanometal doesn’t pose as a threat? And unless Ghidorah comes back OP as before, wouldn’t we still have Godzilla?

And speaking of Ghidorah, I will say that I like the alien look on his face with the multiple eyes and such. But I do have another problem with it, aside from the poor excuse of a fight because Toho doesn’t want to increase the budget, the lovecraftian-worm-like design of it doesn’t feel like Ghidorah. I think what would have been better is that instead of Ghidorah, it would be either Dogora or a completely original monster.

But I guess Toho just tossed in Ghidorah for more revenue because he’s very popular character.

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-28 00:57:01 +0000 UTC]

Well, Toho didn't want to have traditional monster fighting for the trilogy and wanted to take it in a different direction. I appreciate that part, and I don't mind; but I do feel elements of it could've been handled better overall.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-28 01:12:43 +0000 UTC]

I do like that they’re trying to go for a different direction, but in all honesty, what they really should have done is make it a 20 minute series so that it would save them the trouble and the time of character development and the writing, as well as make the first season be like the prequel novels.

Also I just want to point out, that I am also surprised that you ranked Godzilla Vs The Sea Monster, Godzilla Vs Hedorah and freaking Godzilla’s Revenge on the B Rank.

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-28 09:41:21 +0000 UTC]

Making the trilogy into a TV series was the original plan, and I think that would've solved a number of issues (depending on how long it would've aired). But ya got Toho being like "Make them into movies!" and the story had to be compromised for it.

Oh yeah. Sea Monster has legit charming human scenes that carry the movie in its own right. It's a fun adventure story and it does that very well. Hedorah's more of a trip and a strange experience that I can't help but appreciate. Godzilla's Revenge I find to be an underrated classic. Ichiro's struggles are very relatable and has some poignant commentary about Japan's industrial boom and the effect it has on families (at the time). And unlike the other Showa movies that depended on stock footage for budgetary reasons, Revenge I think utilized the stock footage in a very clever manner. Think about it, Ichiro's a Godzilla fan; he's seen those particular movies an abundance of times to the point where the monster fights are ingrained in his dreams. For as silly as it can get, I think Revenge is a much smarter movie than most people are led to believe.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-28 13:52:44 +0000 UTC]

Boi, you bring up pretty good points.

Sea Monsters, while I would say is a little off for how Godzilla acts since he was suppose to be King Kong. But I will agree, the human scenes were enjoyable and it is a fun movie.

Revenge, while something that many would consider bad or so bad its good, did so that is more so overlooked, yet understandable. I can understand Ichiro’s struggles with bullying and how it effects his dream since Gabara is a thing. And I actually really like Gabara for how much he resembles an oni creature, and I became a fan of oni creatures. And Minilla, while we all like to joke around with him, does kinda remind of Teddy from Among The Sleep, although more on a cowardly side. Yeah, I agree, I might have to rank up these films once I get back from G-Fest.

And Godzilla Vs Hedorah, oh boi. I will say that the main highlight of this... weird film is Hedorah and how dark and graphic it could get, the horrific design of Hedorah that used to give me nightmares, the way how humans die, out of all the “Godzilla is da hero”, this has to be the most disturbing. But the disturbing elements takes a odd angle with allot scenes like the guy seeing fish masks, the nightclub, etc.

It’s like its daring me to rewatch this while I’m high. XD

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-28 21:39:57 +0000 UTC]

Even though Gabara's supposed to be a toad... Let's, uh, stick with the oni theme.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-28 23:05:23 +0000 UTC]

An Irish toad oni.

Another film that I noticed thats not ranked very low is Godzilla Vs Spacegodzilla, ranked allot higher then Godzilla Vs Mothra. Something in that film that you liked?

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-29 01:36:23 +0000 UTC]

I just have better memories of it compared to vs. Mothra. Plus, unlike vs. Mothra which is a rehash of Mothra '61, SpaceGodzilla has some neat ideas, just struggles to balance those elements.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-29 03:20:49 +0000 UTC]

Interesting, well I can’t deny that it did had neat ideas, specifically Spacegodzilla and the neat redesign on Moguera.

However, those things aren’t enough to save this film of being the worst in the Heisei era imo, and allot of fans seem to have a problems with it.

While I agree that Godzilla Vs Mothra (1992) does feel like a rehash of the original, there are allot of things that I like. The special effects, Battra being a neat dark counterpart of Mothra, and not to mention, the ost.

Godzilla Vs Spacegodzilla’s ost is alright, not memorable, but Godzilla’s and Moguera’s themes were memorable. The special effects are nice, but a few of them are kinda a downgrade compare to most Showa era films, like in space, aside from the noticeable wires that are hanging the meteorites, theres no stars on the background.

But the worst part of the films is it’s pointless sub plots and Miki’s writing.

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-29 11:35:43 +0000 UTC]

I can see all that. For GvM'92, Battra's definitely the biggest highlight and the best contribution to the film; but for me, the rest falls pretty flat on its face. As far as SpaceG goes, I guess I just have more of a tolerance for its major flaws. Don't get me wrong, your points are perfectly valid. It's just that I don't see SpaceG as the absolute worst of the Heisei era films.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-29 14:13:56 +0000 UTC]

Interesting.

But I think we can all agree that Godzilla Vs Megaguirus is easily the worst Millennium films, and far worst then Spacegodzilla.

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-29 14:39:08 +0000 UTC]

Megaguirus is definitely the weakest of the Millennium films, that I can agree with. I don't think the underwhelming films are *that* far off from SpaceGodzilla; everything's pretty relative.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-29 14:59:39 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

The only positive thing I’ll say about Megaguirus is the main villain herself, as she’s favorite monster of mine. Everything else, theres really not that many great things about it, not even a single character stands out to be memorable.

But what if this was a Rodan film instead of a Godzilla film?

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KaijuX In reply to KingLittleCaesar [2019-06-29 16:43:11 +0000 UTC]

Agreed. Much like vs. Mothra, Megaguirus herself is definitely a delight to see. Just wished the film around her was a lot better.

If you took out Godzilla and replaced him with Rodan, it wouldn't change anything outside of how the action would be handled. You'd need to rework the script entirely OR (even more plausibly) just make another movie where Rodan and Megaguirus are the central focus.

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KingLittleCaesar In reply to KaijuX [2019-06-29 17:30:06 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, like this could have easily be a sequel to Godzilla 2000, but this was the dawn of the experimental reboot trend that Toho likes to do.

I think it would have been better not just because it’s another film for Rodan, but it’ll be fitting since Rodan is fighting the queen of insects that he preys upon.

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rockinrocket67791 In reply to ??? [2019-06-27 20:55:47 +0000 UTC]

>godzilla 2014 in a tier

wh

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RAZPUTIN64 In reply to ??? [2019-06-27 20:38:14 +0000 UTC]

I didn't realize how there is so much of them-

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KaijuX In reply to RAZPUTIN64 [2019-06-27 22:22:45 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, 35 currently, I think. That'll be 36 really soon.

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