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Published: 2014-02-17 20:02:14 +0000 UTC; Views: 2959; Favourites: 24; Downloads: 0
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My second full lenght animationkaizen vs nhazul/Tentionmaru who will win?
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So, That Apocalypse Need Hurting His Own Eye?
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dude, i dont think u need any cnc @ all, becuase from your last animation, you've definitely improved, so you'll always be getting better,Β
dont matter what, becuz we r crysis, we rule, we rock, we r badass :3 we r hardcore
mark really wanna say: Β OMG OMG OMG THIS AWWWWWESOME, dude your efx are even better, and the apocolypse was so epic yo,
ahahahah, our ninjas r so OP its awesoome, its the new trend for crying out load
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NICE JOB DUDE, this is awesome, keep it up man, you are getting so much better
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really fun to watch and enjoyable ! you made me wanna animate again
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TENZUL! HOLY FUCK THAT'S THE FUNNIEST SHIT EVER!
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Kaizen, about the animation I don't really have muchto say. Practice more on fluidity, and drawings and effects and everything. But my biggest corcern os the deal with the ideas... I mean you literally copied almost everything what's here: Kame hame ha, chakra, susano, fusion dance, clones... if you keep on doing that, you won't get better at all... or maybe you'll get better, but only at drawing susanos, kame hame has, clone's smoke, and nothing else. If you want to do a job out of animation, you have to learn that you'll have to animate things that you don't like to animate. or things that are not "super-intense". even things that you never heard of, so you'll have to find out how to animate that. The only way to do that, is to get better at every single aspect: drawing, fluidity, effects. everything that can be used on other stuff. You can learn how to animate a kame hame ha, but if you learn how to animate energy/particles in general, you'll be able to animate every single special attack from any series. If this is just a hobbie to you and you won't do a job out of animation, it's fine then, animate however you want, but you gotta start to create your own stuff from now on
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it's very impressive how you much improved in such a short time,but externus-despite his shitty way of CnC-have a reason in one thing:you need to be a little more original,i know it's your way to tribute your favorite anims,but you should start inventing your own powers and weapons!
keep up the good work 
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Hahaha Great Job man Love it Specially With The Fusion Part Β And The Susano I'm Guesting Kaizen Is One Of The Uchihas Β hahaha Nice
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Hardcore,badass,metallique devastating and 9iw fi l ghiyariin
keep it up rak 7abesstilhom mokhm
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wa7ed ma ra7 yefhemΒ
wach ellougha elli tmixi el 7ourouf m3a les chiffres
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Though Im better than you at animating.
But you beat me with the spirit you have, and thats much more important
Keep going.
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I'm done with the TLDR argument. I don't want to detract from Kaizen's comments, it's not a place for it. Nice work bro, keep improving and keep rockin'.
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I have an idea. Β Why don't we all just hold hand together in a BIG circle and sing "Why can't we be friends". Β That'll loosen up the tone. Β Here I'll start : "Oo, oo, oo, oooo...."
Next person above ^
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ok... exturnus
i know u are helping
u can do critiques but try to be careful of the way u say it
honestly i sometimes think u are just being an asshole
i mean really, u said some harmful things
to me even though u are trying to help
i swear i'd like rebellion critisizing me because the way he says it isn't as harsh as yours
u hit me so hard that u almost made me lost confidents in uploading my anims.
everybody has different ways in improving
u are always talking about how u improved and shit but guess what NOT EVERYBODY IS THE SAME AS YOU
some people improve like you
others improve by encouragement
being nice
saying critisizms in a RESPECTED MANNER
I REPEAT.. RESPECTED MANNER.
OK THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY
:/
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the reason why i hate externus : his disgusting manners and ways to talk to people
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Everyone has the same way to gain famous: working hard
That guy has his own way to gain famous: being an ass
and hes still doing a great job.
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even someone younger than me can understand that
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i agree,it's true that reb have alwaysΒ criticizedΒ my work,but he have always done it in a respectful way!
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The way you arrange your sentences makes me cringe holy fuck.
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Look just forget about what everyone said, listen this is great!!! But next time instead of using others ideas create your own, i'm not saying its bad but not only is it less creative but its also waaaay more awesome to see your own stuff. And don't let this bring you down i loved it all the way! Just a suggestion, feel free to be inspired by others thing, but keep a good balanced that way everyone can enjoy! But i loved this *fav! Keep up those full lengths! and btw even if people are mean or rude you should always take into consideration what they say. Externus's advice was pretty good, just keep animating and have fun!
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you know what forget everything Externus said, LISTEN TO NHAZUL!!! at least he has some respect for good animators in progress!
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Okay so thank you for proving to everyone that you don't have an ounce of creativity. Good job on stealing everything you can out of DBZ and Naruto. This doesn't count as inspiration. This is just stealing ideas and not coming up with anything of your own. To top it off, this animation will never be useful. Dragon BallZ doesn't animate like this. They have actual frames and have actual basics. This animation is just awful and it's really annoying seeing how you're praised by everyone. You can't animate more than 5 frames without it wobbling. It doesn't follow any laws of anything. You use 'style' as an excuse to be a shit animator. This isn't a style, this is just poorly done. Stop spending a second per frame and put actual effort into something you do. There's more to making a good animation then just having obnoxious vcam shakes and lights to vindicate for your talentless animation.
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were u drunk when u wrote this, i mean srsly, SRSLY.
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I know it's not necessary for me to say something here, because nhazul already said everything that was needed to be said. But just in case you didn't understand, just look at this: lfllo.deviantart.com/art/The-cβ¦
That animation is a little piece of crap. No background, and the only character is really poorly drawn. You can say is one of the worst animation you ever saw, in terms of quality. But a lot of people liked it when I posted it. Why? because Β what's important on animation is to entertain, and nothing else. Unless you make a living of it, you don't go to the cinema to say how crappy a movie is. You go to be entertained. And I don't think you make a living out of being an asshole. Do you, Externus? Unless someone asks for it, you don't give criticism. And if you're going to give it anyways, then say someting usefull, for god's sake. Saying "Jeez diz iz such a pieze of crup, U SUCK" doesn't help anyone. You should really read Zed's guide to give CnC. It's on stickpage.
I saw your joint with collide, and you literally copied Terkoiz' "SHOCK" animation. The only difference is the background.
And you talk about plagiarism? you sound like an hypocrite to me.
Stop being an asshole. If you want to give criticism, do it right.
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Externus man, your post is full so much hate a disrespect. What is that? Jealousy? Personal grudge? Being a general asshole? I honestly thought this animation was a pleasure to watch, especially being a big fan of dbz and naruto. I mean, what a tribute it was. Sure Kaizen has room for improvement in the animation department, but everybody does, seriously. You are assuming he should be on the same level of skill as "you" or someone else and to that I ask why? Some people learn at different speeds, some people practice more, some people care more... people have different processes and that should be respected, not attacked. Kaizen is obviously having fun with his animation, as you can almost feel the aspiration in this animation. It gotz some feelz. I took a look at some of your recent animations. I saw a guy flipping around a room attacking the air. I saw a guy attacking a non-animated stick figure. Then, I see your extravagant RHG demo, what was it?... another guy attacking air then falls down dead as if you lost all motivation and didn't give a shit. So to attack Kaizen for this great "complete" piece of entertainment, when you are IMO producing dreadfully boring and uninspired animations where there is basically no interaction going on... doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't matter if your animation is "a bit smoother" than his. Honestly, that matters very little in the entirety of a complete piece of entertainment. It appears to me that Kaizen is a much more driven and inspired animator than you, regardless of where he pulls his ideas from. There is no wrongful praise here and you don't need people to tell you "you are shit" to get better. I mean... what better way to crush someones spirit? We aren't dogs and we don't require negative reinforcement. Good constructive criticism given with respect to someones process can go along ways.
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Don't feed the trolls, nhaz. He aint worth it.
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There's a difference between my animations and his. Mine aren't made as full lengths. Mine are made as tests to improve my animation quality. If I were to make a full length, I would actually put real effort into it. And for my latest anim, it was decent. My goal was to experiment and I did that. But the point of a full length isn't to experiment. It's to apply what you've learned. Creating a full length entertainment animation isn't about improving. I may be a general asshole, but I take to that. There's more to my animation than being a bit more smooth. It's setting up for something greater than sticks. There aren't many...uses of an animation of this quality. And taking ideas from other places isn't any better. Again, aspiration is good. But you don't see me making my RHG a jet-powered sword and claiming it to be mine. This is almost even plagiarism. He didn't make these ideas. He didn't even make this style. He won't get anywhere being over-heavily influenced by everything he sees. My RHG maybe a cliche idiot with 2 guns, but that isn't my ultimate RHG. That was a placeholder so I can join a buddy clan. And, I wanna really clarify this, I DONT think I'm the best at animating or think I have no room for improvement. I know I have so much room for improvement, I can probably be ridiculed myself. But your main essential argument is that this is finished and full animation. Like it had work put it into it. But does it really? I feel like everything was slapped on there in a quick amount of time. Like there wasn't much thought put into each frame. And also I grade based on my skill level/expectations because that's what I know. I know that enough to where I can say he should improve on. I can't grade like I'm Terkoiz because I'm not. But I can grade like Externus. And I think negative reinforcement is quite necessary. Should I not assume he's on the same skill level as me? Why shouldn't I? Should we grade him on a lower skill level and pull almost condescending criticism because he isn't on our skill level? He needs to be graded on a higher skill level to advance. People like Rebellion and Alien have negatively reinforced me and it's helped me more than anything. And I've seen this for most people who are given some negative reinforcement. When people kiss my ass, it helps none. I look back and see anims where people say great things about it, and yet, it's cringe worthy to me now. So, a little bit of iron fist is very neccesary. It humbles you. I may have been very harsh, but I didnt bring up non-valid points.Β
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I disagree that a "full length" isn't meant to experiment. It sounds like you pulled that out of your ass. Who made you the authority on the definition or intention behind a "full length" animation. Full lengths can be whatever you want them to be, be it your best work, motivation to improve, purely experimental, or whatever. Have you ever seen Breaking Rust by Kensei? Amazing animation. In the stick world that is considered a "full length" by many and the purpose was to unrust, experiment, and to improve. By the end he probably was creating some of his best work, but it was a process. You are creating a box around the term "full length" and you can't do that. You also need to come down off your high horse and stop saying shit like he won't go anywhere with animations like these. Because now you are not only disrespecting Kaizen but also putting him in a box, as if he is restricted to your own perceived limitations, when clearly this is part of his growing process. Imitation is one of the best ways to learn man, you are holding to "creativity" as being some kind of god, it sounds paralyzing and you act like it can't be developed over time, through process, whether that involves imitation or not. And your RHG is cliche, which are your own words, but you have an "excuse" for why you created it, which is rather irrelevant because you did in fact create it. So now you are excusing yourself for creating unoriginal and cliche content, but blaming Kaizen for it. Interesting isn't it? Also, I agree that ass kissing isn't good for personal growth, but that doesn't mean you can't give a compliment. If I am actually asked to critique, I'm not going to sugar coat it, but I'm also going to give positive critiques. It's important to hold the good with the bad, it gives better direction, so you change what your doing "not so well" and keep what you are actually doing "good". And I don't really care about skill level at this point. I find general entertainment regardless of skill to be more important. If I'm not entertained in someway, why am I watching it? Completion isn't necessary for good content, but there is something to be said about seeing an animation through till its end, especially as it gives a viewer closure. Your gallery is plastered full of 2 second animation tests that you're displaying as content for the world to see. It's not impressive and says something about what you think is valuable. I don't know, maybe it's part of YOUR own process, who am I to judge right? Your original post wasn't criticism, it was a blatant attack. Valid points or not, it wasn't cool man.
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well, remember me not to piss off Nhazul, kinda gets scary
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Dude!
I know that Rebellion does C&C too, but damn! You're, and went, straight 'metalocalypse' this time!
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Dude...just shut up. This animation is pretty amazing and many more people love it than you. If he likes dbz and naruto and wanted to use some of it in his animation so what? He worked very hard on it and if you don't like it don't say anything. Have a shitty day
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A small side note. No one cares what you say.any amazing animators better than your sorry lame excuse for "animating" say this animation is great. So you should get the hurt out of your butt and comment more respectfully.
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