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"Equality is not about what is best for some, but what is best for all." - Kevin Kidwell (me)With all of the equality trials and what is going on today and tomorrow, I was inspired to come up with a simple poster by a thought of mine. It may not be an original thought, but the quote came from my mind.
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PyrrhusiVictoria In reply to ??? [2013-03-27 06:54:11 +0000 UTC]
Yep, those are exactly the same arguments used against interracial marriages during segregation. Today, nobody would even think of saying interracial marriage is immoral or like trying to marry your dog (at least not out loud) because the sheer lunacy of it is so apparent.
And the whole marriage to dogs, cats, children, etc. is a meritless argument anyway becuase contracts (of which marriage is one example) are only valid between concensual entities. That excludes children and pets by definition.
Honestly, I fail to even see why anyone would care so much about stopping gay marriage. How does it impact a hetro couple if some gays or lesbians they don't even know to begin with, and will probably never see, get married? About time to finish kicking government's ass out of people's bedrooms and love lives.
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corbevy In reply to PyrrhusiVictoria [2013-03-27 14:17:12 +0000 UTC]
Well said my friend! Sadly, we may see progress now, but it is still a long road for the LGBT community. This is merely the beginning. I mean, look at how long it took for 'whites' and African Americans to get married, or even be accepted. There are people still today who do not accept African Americans.
I will keep fighting though! I will fight for any logical cause that will benefit the lives of others, and that will benefit my life as well.
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The-Psychonaut In reply to ??? [2013-03-27 06:08:59 +0000 UTC]
The roman catholic I'm referring to's first name is Adolph.
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The-Psychonaut In reply to ??? [2013-03-27 06:07:04 +0000 UTC]
I mentioned polygamy to point out the "it's against the bible" argument has never truly been a factor in Christian prejudice when it came to telling other folks what to do with their lovers.
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The-Psychonaut In reply to ??? [2013-03-27 06:05:12 +0000 UTC]
...Those are not causal links: in addition those are tremendously generalized indictments of cultures you obviously don't have the courtesy or data to name and cogently verify. You're basing your opinions in all likelihood out of the quoran, the bible or the torah. All of which have never been for the most part proven as historical references, and even if they were, are all gargled, compressed, abridged translations of centuries of text.
Also beastiality falls under animal abuse and will never be legalized for one simple fact: any sexual congress is non-consensual and falls under rape.
IN addition, with all due respect, miss, your religion's tenets, whatsoever those may be, exist fundamentally to dictate and regiment your behavior and spirituality, not mine, not anyone else's.
Even if you do have political clout within or because of your creed's voting potency, this is a prime example of a scenario where you are ethically impressed by the boundaries of democratic integrity and intellectual virtue, to not impose your arbitrary opinion on others who could not trumpet their cause louder than your pulpit-bourne bigotry. Making criminals out of consensual couples, mature adults legally well within their rights to enjoy the breadth of their sequential intimacy, is a sickeningly hypocritical offense. I recall it wasn't long ago when slaves were not allowed marital bliss, nor second class citizens. Hell, all it took to be illegal was for one white man to marry two white women (in spite of the fact Moses, an iconic spiritualist in the Bible, the Quoran and the Torah) took on, not only Zeborah, daughter of Jephro the luddite, but the Ethiopian as well. As did Abraham when he espoused Hagar at Sariah's behest. Or Isaac. Or Jacob when he conceived Joseph, half brother to the 12 tribes of Israel.
Madam, if you are a Christian, jewish or muslim...you do not know your history: otherwise you would appreciate the irony behind your bigotry. Nor do you understand the consequences of your actions as a governing force.
You're not just making a law, you idiot, you're also oppressing people, exacting time, money and man power to abuse earnest people who will openly and inevitably defy you: you will have to punish them. Can you do that? No. Of course, you can't. Not you, with your passive aggressive prejudice. You can't sully your hands fulfilling the reality of your manic fascism. But violence by proxy? Brute force and enforced cages to spirit these men and women away to, so you'll never look any of them in the eye---when you shell out for every riot squad, every swat dog turned on a man defending his lover--you'll happily except that: because as long as you don't have to see it, you don't have to fully drink in your ungodly hypocrisy, you, like a Roman Catholic before, can glibly bask in your slobbering psychotic pomp.
You don't know what the price is for your prejudice. Unless you're willing to beat and or kill a man for resisting to go to jail, simply because he loved someone and wanted to get married, don't you dare say you "know" what's right.
P.S. Whoever owns this page, do not delete this woman's comments. She deserves to be heard, and she deserves all the legal consequences for it.
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Uielyave In reply to ??? [2013-03-27 05:45:01 +0000 UTC]
The so-called "Sanctity of Marriage" no longer exists. It's not a morality issue. it's not about God. It's about giving equal rights to -everyone-, regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation. Marriage now is about financial and life benefits. If it was so sacred, then people would be speaking out as heavily against DIVORCE as they do about homosexual marriage. "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery." Mathew 19:9.
Also you need to realize, such laws and things written in the old testament about laying with another man was mainly the fact that in order to survive, people had to -breed-. Laws are made to keep people in check. Laws change. Times change. Also, I find it funny that no one seems to realize that it's not "A man and a woman" encouraged in the bible. But more so, "A man" and however many wives he can buy. Women were property. "Sanctity" of marriage is Bull. Equality is a given right to all citizens, and no one should be exempt simply because the love someone of the same gender.
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TwilightWolfSpirit In reply to ??? [2013-03-27 05:05:47 +0000 UTC]
Perhaps that is your definition of the word, but you do not have the right nor the privilege to dictate what others do with their OWN lives. You are master of yourself and no one else. As for your example, there are people in this world and past times who, like it or not, have married relatives. The Kings and Queens of Europe all married their cousins or siblings at one point in order to keep their "sacred" royal blood pure. Now, I'm not going to try and convince you otherwise, since you seem pretty set in stone about this, but I do have one request. Don't force others to comply with your beliefs/morals/ethics, because everyone is entitled to their own set of morals and values.
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The-Psychonaut In reply to TwilightWolfSpirit [2013-03-27 06:10:08 +0000 UTC]
Fuck, every origin myth about man is teeming with incest. Talk that away, guys.
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TwilightWolfSpirit In reply to The-Psychonaut [2013-03-27 14:11:09 +0000 UTC]
I wasn't talking about myths, I was talking about facts but yes I can see what you're talking about. However I don't see how incest is something that can be used as an argument against marriage between two people who love each other, regardless of gender.
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The-Psychonaut In reply to TwilightWolfSpirit [2013-03-27 16:22:07 +0000 UTC]
My point is religious observers can't posture gay marriage is the most depraved form of love, when frankly their own text justified sooooo much worse. To clarify, I don't see anything wrong with homosexuality at all.
The arguments that gay marriage are "against" the bible are so insipid: because the majority of Christians don't believe their own text whenever its convenient. You mention the price for rape was a mere 20-somethign shekkels and a slap on the wrist...Christians go deathly silent. You mention the human sacrifices...no one comments: but if you mention homosexuality, they rattle of Leviticus. They're a bunch of fuckin' hiprocrits who cherry pick their scriptures.
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TwilightWolfSpirit In reply to The-Psychonaut [2013-03-28 01:43:56 +0000 UTC]
My mistake, I thought you were defending the guy against gay marriage. What you say is true, I've noticed that most Christians pick and choose when to follow the Bible and when not to. It's quite irritating when those same hypocritical people use Bible as a means to justify their hate for homosexuality or gay marriage. That's fine and dandy that they believe in God, kudos for them, but what is not acceptable is the fact that they try to shove their religion down other people's throats. They just can't seem to accept that people have differing views from their own. That sort of behavior is what causes negative attitudes like discrimination and bigotry.
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The-Psychonaut In reply to TwilightWolfSpirit [2013-03-28 01:51:33 +0000 UTC]
The problem stems from the fact that Christianity, by way of the bible, believes their morality to simply be common sensical and correct; and everyone else's contrary, albeit cogent points of view are just the interpolations of society either polluting the truth or parodying it.
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TwilightWolfSpirit In reply to The-Psychonaut [2013-03-31 04:11:31 +0000 UTC]
Well of course, but that seems to be the problem with all the big religions. They believe that they are right and no one can tell them otherwise. And even if they are proven to be wrong they either deny the true or label the person who proved them wrong a heretic/sinner/or whatever else and force said person into silent isolation. Everyone's own interpretation puts the issue in a new perspective
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kevinkidwell In reply to ??? [2013-03-27 04:38:48 +0000 UTC]
Keep telling yourself it'll lead to that. This is not about the value of marriage, it is about the same rights for every citizen. As for what you hold to happen in places that have same-sex marriage, I would like to see some facts (that are not Fox News). Thanks!
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c1cko In reply to ??? [2013-03-27 02:48:48 +0000 UTC]
That you have awesome ideas is great - no thought is original, you know, but that doesn't degrade the quality of the same thought in different, original wording.
It's just that some thoughts have already been said loudly that they either get integrated or get cliche. The re-forming of already-spoken thoughts keeps important ideas in circulation and promotes creativity, I think. So I love your original quotes, not just because I agree with them xD
The fact that you use your talent in graphic design as a sharing medium and to visually reinforce your ideas, makes you loud and bold, something more designers should maybe try to do.
The form of stylish self-attributed quotes adds an effective tone of conviction to your voice... Maybe you'll be an essayist on-the-side, in the future.
tl;dr: DFTBA
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impia-dea In reply to ??? [2013-03-27 01:05:21 +0000 UTC]
All of my love man, all of my love
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Tory-Kasper [2013-03-27 00:51:35 +0000 UTC]
I shared from the image itself to facebook. So it'll just link people to here ^-^
This is perfect, and thank you for making this.
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FlyingFox-Bat In reply to ??? [2013-03-27 00:10:59 +0000 UTC]
it brings to mind something Winston Churchill once said...'Equality is equal'...lol....i don't think there are better ways of saying it than what the both of you have said. THANK YOU
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