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PLEASE FULL VIEW BEFORE GIVING CRIT, AS YOU CAN'T GET A GOOD IDEA OF THE 'REAL' IMAGE BY A SMALLER THUMBNAIL!A rought sketch for a painting I want to do. If I can get it to work, I think it will look really great (Magji very rarely goes 'action girl' but....when she does, it's awesome).
However, I'm not really getting any good ideas for how to finsih off/fix this.
I would REALLY like suggestions on both the hand on the ground and the leg behind it (her right, our left). Mainly, the lower half of the leg from the knee down, but if fixing is needed on the calf, then please do tell.
What would also be REALLY helpful is if someone had a link to a stock photo (that ALLOWS people to use it, obviously. X3) with this pose/one very similar) that I could use. That'd be great as well.
Ignore the coat and her pearls falling down - that's part of the composition that I'm working on myself. X3
CRIT HELP! CRIT HELPS!
Magji is so totally mine, obvioulsy.
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Comments: 44
DeathInTheReaper [2007-03-08 06:38:04 +0000 UTC]
I think the bottom half of her leg from the knee down should be showing. Not a lot but to me it just seems as though from the way the rest of her body is angled that you'd get a severely foreshortened view of her leg. he hand is good but the fingers seem flat. Though I'm not sure how to go about fixing that..
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Parke-Chase [2007-02-14 16:05:02 +0000 UTC]
The sketch is fantastic but I'm sorry that I can't offer much critisism cuz I'm not that schooled in anatomy...
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enolianslave [2007-02-08 20:28:58 +0000 UTC]
hunny i absolutely adore her little face!! it makes me squeel! and the pose is lovely. nice foreshortening the only thing i would say is to move the torso a little. if the arm is all the way back like that the chest would follow suit and angle itself a little more. in short, play around with the boobies some more.
but otherwise i think it looks great!
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KeyshaKitty In reply to enolianslave [2007-02-08 23:22:01 +0000 UTC]
XD Why is 'play with the boobies' one of the things I find SO amusing hearing you say?
thanks for the suggestions, love! :3
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enolianslave In reply to KeyshaKitty [2007-02-08 23:52:56 +0000 UTC]
it's a funny word, i like the word, being scottish i empasise on the 'ooo' sound so it sounds much funnier. get me to say it when i'm over lol! yeh, that's an important part of me being there.
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Randompplz [2007-02-08 12:14:49 +0000 UTC]
I rather like it. People took any ideas for crit, so...I personally think its nice. Good job!
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mormongirlbyu [2007-02-08 08:42:08 +0000 UTC]
from that angle...you'd probably only see the side of her foot. maybe a slight curve just beyond her knee that would be her calf. it seems that you had that already, before you erased it. the foot would probably be a straight-on view, as opposed to that sideways-looking bit that you had before. maybe tipped in / this way a bit, but not too dramatic. sorry, but i couldn't find any reference pics for you.
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Rebecca13 [2007-02-08 03:58:33 +0000 UTC]
Great!
n___n
I really want to see the coloured version of this!
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LeaveMeAlone-NOW [2007-02-08 01:26:18 +0000 UTC]
that pose is excellent. and awsome alla round. the only tihnkg i can even THINK of ctriquing is that for the cloth, if she is holding it from the other side, it should be al little more drapey by her hand with some folds to look like she has a firm grasp on it. <33 haha, you dont have to listen to me! im only an amature, and still half the time i wouldnt even remeber to add folds or such!! XD otherwise this is LOVELY!! and i cant wait till the finished version.
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Orae [2007-02-07 23:36:38 +0000 UTC]
The thing that popped out most at me is that the arm supporting her weight seems really short, and that makes the hand look a little off. Perhaps if the arm was a little longer, and the fingers a little more splayed, it would help?
As for the leg you're having trouble with, it looked incomplete to me, but, I assume that's because you didn't draw it in because you didn't know what to do with it. I'd go with just a little bit of her foot showing, just to give her some balance. Maybe some shin, as well? I'm thinking that too much shin might give the appearance o her being a little turned, and that would be uncomfortable. I've tried it myself and it really hurt my back. XD
Otherwise, I think it looks lovely, and I can't wait for the final piece!
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rebelshadowknight [2007-02-07 23:13:35 +0000 UTC]
It's lovely all around, but what really got my attention was her right hand. I know the coat's going to cover it, but I just had to tell you that I love it because of the positioning and the fact that it must've been hard to get that right. I don't know. I just found it really interesting.
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kaellie [2007-02-07 23:01:29 +0000 UTC]
dang you are sooo goood!! i totally wish i had the hang of drawing like you do..
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Hudor-Angelos [2007-02-07 22:57:10 +0000 UTC]
It's a beautiful concept and very dynamic. As far as the hand goes I believe that it needs to be splayed out some because she would not be able to hold herself up very easily that way and it's not very natural.
I have to say though that I like her left leg the way it is I think it would be fine to leave it like that.
I have to say again that this is an awesome pic. I love the pose it's captivating so I like it lots!!!
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sanity-alchemist [2007-02-07 22:19:44 +0000 UTC]
Great composition and sense of movement. Can't wait to see the painting. ^_^
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animeartist67 [2007-02-07 22:12:30 +0000 UTC]
i saw the erase marks on the right leg. i think it would give it a sense of balance if you drew that foot again. i think the rest and the pose are great!!!! good luck on your painting!
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Kiyokushitaka [2007-02-07 21:38:50 +0000 UTC]
Maybe if the leg going out of the frame was placed so it was back behind her more? The hand on the ground looks off, yeah, but I wouldn't know what to say to correct that, though the fingers look a bit flat, in my opinion...
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MiraKHall [2007-02-07 21:14:37 +0000 UTC]
Hmm... Either the left ear needs to be raised up a bit, or the right one lowered. Ears are usually my pet-peeves when I try to balance/position them as accurately as possible
And I noticed the erased marks of her lower right leg; I thought that pose right there was just fine. It might be difficult to do it in that angle, but it will give her more balance and necessary support for her pose.
Other than that, it looks great. You were very thorough with this one, especially the way she's posed: my eye seems to follow a path from her coat down to her body and end at the leg... or vice-versa.
Think you can draft one of your flat-mates or someone else to try that pose again for you? I kinda agree with CoolKidCoco about the right hand, but I wouldn't know what position it should be to make it more comfortable for her -- hands are HARD to do, this I know (and I try to practice with it everytime )
Best of luck for you and your painting; it'll be breath-taking when it's done. I hope I di'n't badger it too mugh
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CoolKidCoco [2007-02-07 18:46:43 +0000 UTC]
From what I can tell of the light sketch of the leg, it looks fine to me. :3
As for the hand, I might suggest positioning it so that it's pointed more toward the viewer. When someone places their hand on the ground in that manner that she is, it's usually pointed straight out in front of them. I just tried to put my hand in the position she has it, and lemme tell you... it hurts. XD
I love where this is going though. Her eyes, those full lips, the swooshing motion of her cloak... <3
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CoolKidCoco In reply to CoolKidCoco [2007-02-07 18:50:10 +0000 UTC]
I thought I'd also add, if you're having trouble with a pose in a pic, try doing it yourself. Most of the time, if it hurts when YOU do it, then it's unnatural, and would come off that way in the pic. If you need to, use a mirror too. :3 It may seem silly, but it helps! After all, your body can be used as a tool too.
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mrcontroversial [2007-02-07 16:15:13 +0000 UTC]
To me, I feel that the left arm is too short. Making the hand bigger than what it should really be. That's in my opinion. The left leg seems ok. I don't really have anything to provide there...sorry..
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Jackalopette [2007-02-07 16:13:09 +0000 UTC]
If you browse the stock photo section here on DA, you'll eventually find something similar to your pose.
[link]
Trinity model from the matrix
[link]
Sword warrior pose set
Honestly, I think you should try a little bit of foreshortening on the fingers and the leg. Maybe you could adjust them so that she looks like she's coming toward you.
But other than that, you have a good grasp on the pose, and I can't wait to see what you do with it next!
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KeyshaKitty In reply to Jackalopette [2007-02-08 04:00:42 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the links and the suggestions. ^^
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Alandra-Noir [2007-02-07 16:03:17 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, as the others have said before, I think your ghost-leg looks to be just about right. Though, I would almost rotate it back a little bit... Ahh, how to explain this... I dunno, you would almost see hardly any of her shin, but mostly her foot behind that leg. Does that make sense? Maybe, maybe not...
As for the hand, I would almost put her thumb down a little more... So its on the same plane as her fingers, and not the knee behind it. And her hand might not look so chubby (not that it's bad in ther first place) if you have her balancing the weight more on her fingers alone instead of fingers and palm... So make her hand a bit more... spidery (haha what?) than flat... Or something.
Good luck with that though... Haha poses are hard, and you're well on your way to making an awesome one. O.o
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08isgr8 [2007-02-07 15:58:11 +0000 UTC]
I don't have anything bad 2 say about this pic Every1 here took my ideas
Maybe some color or Photoshop might help
Otherwise, u got the right idea (the pose and everything) and ur pic looks AWESOME, dude
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KeyshaKitty In reply to 08isgr8 [2007-02-08 00:16:29 +0000 UTC]
But crit isn't 'bad' as you put it - it's suggestions for improvment. How on earth would that be bad? X3
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COURTJ3ST3R [2007-02-07 14:04:42 +0000 UTC]
i think the hand looks fine, but the leg on the ground, behind the hand, it seems like she has no lower leg, you probably need her shin and foot extending beyond that, into the background. other than that, it looks great, she has a cute face, and i cant wait to see it colored!
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KeyshaKitty In reply to COURTJ3ST3R [2007-02-07 14:45:03 +0000 UTC]
Nope, she doesn't have the other part of the lower leg because I hadn't drawn it in as I wasn't sure what to put there. Thanks for the suggestion. ^^
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COURTJ3ST3R In reply to KeyshaKitty [2007-02-07 15:49:07 +0000 UTC]
oh! ok. but from where the ghost is, it looks fine.
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Aluchan [2007-02-07 13:49:11 +0000 UTC]
From the ghost of the foot I can see, it looks, like you had it in about the right place. The hand, I would personaly hide it in the cloth. Keeps it out of your way, and it wouldn't look akward.
Other than what you needed help with, her left (my left) ear is bigger and off center with her opposing one. Her hair supplies endless flowy fun. I think giving it almost an art neuvo look would work nicely with it. I dont know what emotion you're trying to convey on her face, right now it just looks like shes somewhat happy. Though, im just assuming this is a righting form, I think maybe if you played with changing her expression, maybe just doodleing faces on another sheet of paper, and showing her looking a bit more fierce. Thats just my reaction though. I dont know anything about her personality, or the form shes changing into.
Otherwise, the pose looks great! and im exited to see this finished. for stock photography, heres some links i use. [link] [link] (nudity. Anatomy referances for the female figure.)
They might not have your exact pose, but maybe something close that you could use just for that leg youre having trouble with.
Good luck.
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KeyshaKitty In reply to Aluchan [2007-02-07 14:48:09 +0000 UTC]
I can't really hide the hand (I'm talking about the one on the ground, not the one I actually have in the cloth). So that's why I was asking for help on it.
As far as the face goes, I'm actually very satisfied with how it's come out, which is why I was after advice on the hand and foot. At least you think the ghosting of the pre-tried foot looks like I'm on the right track - thanks for that. ^^ And thanks also for the stock art links!
And...wow! Didn't pick up in the ears! Thanks so much for pointing that out too. :3
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Aluchan In reply to KeyshaKitty [2007-02-07 15:18:32 +0000 UTC]
Sorry, I thought because you hadn't drawn her hand behind the cloth that was the one you were having trouble with. But, now that I know what hand you mean, it looks just about spot on. The only thing i would suggest is maybe making it look like there's more weight on it, unless shes supposed to be just landing in that pose. Otherwise, it looks fine.
If the face works for you, that's all that matters. It's still a nice face, she seems rather calm, and just, pleasant i think is the only word i can think of. If that's her character though, keep it. Like i said, im going without any knowlage of the character herself. And sometimes that makes all the difference.
lol. sometimes it just takes someone else to look at something to find those small errors you would have looked right over. I know thats happened to me more than a few times.
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KeyshaKitty In reply to Aluchan [2007-02-07 15:23:23 +0000 UTC]
And that's why crits are great! They're only there to help you improve - as you can miss/not see SO many things that could be made better. ^^
Okay, I'll see about re-working that hand just a little bit. She's pretty much just crouched into that pose, if that helps.
And yep - she's pretty much the most calm and collected of all my characters (peaceful, really) so she does tend to keep that cool when leaping into action as well. :3
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Aluchan In reply to KeyshaKitty [2007-02-08 04:33:38 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, crits are great. There's been a lot of times where i know i need to fix something, but i dont know how, and thats what my friends are for. :3 Though, most of thier crits is "his heads big.." XD;;
if shes just got into that pose, the hand works. Dont over work it too much, or you might loose the intial pose after beliving it was the best way to go. That's the worst. D:
Her face works with her personality realy well. Not exactly stoic, but not all "RAWR!" either. lol.
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nirokee [2007-02-07 11:59:18 +0000 UTC]
the only crits i can think of is maybe with the leg, move it back a bit? past that it looks great ^_^ lol, chubby hand ^_^
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KeyshaKitty In reply to nirokee [2007-02-07 14:50:02 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. I hate the hand. That's why I wanna change it. X3
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll see about moving it back some. ^^
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nirokee In reply to KeyshaKitty [2007-02-07 20:47:06 +0000 UTC]
oki ^_^ ne time, i know it sucks a bit when you want suggestions and people just say its cute or something, alrought it is cute, dont get me wrong
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Mehfly In reply to taximals [2007-02-11 20:24:32 +0000 UTC]
I also indeed would like to see this finished. Everything you do is awesome, Kai. I really wish I could get the money to start buying your manga. I love your original stuff maybe more than your FMA fanstuffers. ~^_^~
~ Mehfly *loves*
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taximals In reply to taximals [2007-02-07 09:39:12 +0000 UTC]
woo first comment!
I don't really think this needs crits, it's awsome already!
She has beautiful eyes <3
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