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Description Female torso is even more difficult, I'm afraid I will never be able to draw it without reference photos/drawings hnnnng @_@

IMPORTANT EDIT:
I do apologies but I refuse to put the mature tag because I simply don't think female's nipples are vulgar.
Especially in this context.. I see no difference between males and females nipples..
Don't report it, don't sexualize this anatomy study.

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Comments: 255

Victoria-Summerheart In reply to ??? [2015-03-14 14:50:33 +0000 UTC]

verbally attack? Where? 
Also this isnt actual explicit porn, you should read the faq and the rules, this is allowed. dont sound so condescending i mean really sweet heart? shut up lol

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Fuumah In reply to Victoria-Summerheart [2015-03-16 12:03:03 +0000 UTC]

Let me explain something to you. Where you a part of deviantart when some trolls were going around reporting people that didnt put a mature tag on there there nude art ? Their are still stupid trolls going around reporting nude art that isnt put under mature block
 and valsiak was making a sarcastic joke about it and didnt deserve all the harrassment. 

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Victoria-Summerheart In reply to Fuumah [2015-03-16 21:21:06 +0000 UTC]

Well, just because they report nude art doesn't mean its going to be removed, staff is in charge of that and it takes more than just a report for them to remove it. i learned that the hard way, i reported actual explicit garbage to staff that was also pedophilia, staff didnt do anything about it because it was "within deviantart rules". 

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Fuumah In reply to Victoria-Summerheart [2015-03-17 11:52:36 +0000 UTC]

When the trolls reported pictures they didn't get a warning,the picture got removed regardless of the rules.

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Victoria-Summerheart In reply to Fuumah [2015-03-19 00:05:26 +0000 UTC]

Oh, so they do remove images for not having a mature tag when its nude art. It is the rules, that's why they removed it, not regardless. Didn't know that but now i do. 

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Fuumah In reply to Victoria-Summerheart [2015-03-19 01:31:50 +0000 UTC]

*regardless of the rules meaning; The picture didnt break any of the rules stated at the time.
so yeah regardless

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Victoria-Summerheart In reply to Fuumah [2015-03-19 22:49:50 +0000 UTC]

they reported it, regardless of the rules; meaning they reported this despite what the rules are. also i dont care anymore

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Fuumah In reply to Victoria-Summerheart [2015-03-20 19:28:59 +0000 UTC]

The way i explained it is the way I was using it in the sentence so no,what you said wasnt what the sentence was stating. "the picture got removed regardless of the rules."
How long ago do you think i got tired of explaining the stuff you didnt understand?

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Victoria-Summerheart In reply to Fuumah [2015-03-21 00:29:45 +0000 UTC]

its not that i didn't understand, you just can't explain or express yourself correctly if i really do misunderstand you. or you just dont want to be wrong but its fine

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Fuumah In reply to Victoria-Summerheart [2015-03-21 00:53:45 +0000 UTC]

yeahhhh,whatever you say   I was thinking the same about you "or you just not want to be wrong" but its fine!

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Victoria-Summerheart In reply to Fuumah [2015-03-21 15:03:41 +0000 UTC]

lol okay. I was just saying what is correct, i can be wrong like i just said but whatever

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Fuumah In reply to Victoria-Summerheart [2015-03-16 11:59:05 +0000 UTC]

did you read the comments she left towards someone in the comments? she kept commenting on the comments he made because she thought he was insulting the creator but she didn't understand and when i say sweetheart its my way of setting a nice tone but i guess your right,its not verbal assault its harassment.
I never said anything about this being porn neither so explaining that to me was beside the point. >_>

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Victoria-Summerheart In reply to Fuumah [2015-03-16 21:36:21 +0000 UTC]

That person was giving them the same attitude i dont know if you read but uh yeah they deserved what they were told. Anyways, it just sounds condescending and annoying. Although this really does need a mature tag, it is nude art, it can't be reported just on that. im sure staff gives a warning about the mature content tag, it cant be removed otherwise

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to ??? [2015-02-28 22:55:46 +0000 UTC]

Actually, I have been on Deviant Art since it first came out. I have two accounts.

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Fuumah In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-03-09 20:32:15 +0000 UTC]

have you been hiding under a brick then? 0-o dang dude theres a lot of things you must've missed.

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Fuumah [2015-03-09 20:46:27 +0000 UTC]

In my perspective....

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Fuumah In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-03-11 00:51:54 +0000 UTC]

 you will catch up

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Victoria-Summerheart In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-03-10 00:28:26 +0000 UTC]

You're right actually, i dont know why this person is saying anything. This isnt "explicit porn" unlike many things that are on deviantart. 

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Victoria-Summerheart [2015-03-10 01:43:46 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for understanding.

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Victoria-Summerheart In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-03-14 15:17:09 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome 

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Victoria-Summerheart [2015-03-16 00:07:39 +0000 UTC]

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Jetichor [2014-12-11 02:44:07 +0000 UTC]

you dont think it needs a mature tag huh?...you are gonna have a bad time

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Jetichor [2015-01-21 00:35:09 +0000 UTC]

It's art, not porn. Grow up. Art is everything.

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Jetichor In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-01-21 00:40:28 +0000 UTC]

yes i know thats my point, theres gonna be people who will report it anyway thats why she will have a bad time

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Victoria-Summerheart In reply to Jetichor [2015-03-10 00:27:37 +0000 UTC]

actually this cant be reported. It's not explicit porn. 

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Jetichor In reply to Victoria-Summerheart [2015-03-10 04:27:32 +0000 UTC]

theres always somone

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Victoria-Summerheart In reply to Jetichor [2015-03-10 22:56:35 +0000 UTC]

No, staff wont see this as porn and won't remove it. 

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Jetichor [2015-01-21 00:48:41 +0000 UTC]

What is so bad about breasts? Men and woman both have nipples.

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Jetichor In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-01-21 01:05:59 +0000 UTC]

no, im with you thats what i was trying to say with some failed hummor apparently

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Jetichor [2015-01-21 02:14:24 +0000 UTC]

Look at all of your comment history. You are making yourself sound childish. No one is going to have a bad time . Look again. Everything you say tells us about you. What are you, 8, 9? If you are going to think these are "flaggable" it's not, because it is A R T.

I do not even understand what the problem is? Don't even try to be relevant honey. Think .

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Jetichor In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-01-21 02:19:43 +0000 UTC]

thats what im saying its art but someone will flag it because people get ofended by breasts the joke is just the fact that the artist was optimistic that she thought she didt need a mature tag, but this is deviant art and smeone will get offended and try to flag it which will be annoying for the artist

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Jetichor [2015-01-21 02:23:02 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but this still not your responsibility. If it doesn't bother you, don't worry about it. Seriously. Ugh.

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Jetichor In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-01-21 02:29:45 +0000 UTC]

im sorry i was just trying to be funy dindt mean to upset anyone

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Jetichor [2015-01-21 02:40:00 +0000 UTC]

No, you did not upset anyone, you just jumped to conclusions. You were making yourself sound like a selfish person getting into other people's responsibilities, when it is the artists. Once again, you see not a threat, you probably just put an impact on what the artist was thinking....

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Jetichor In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-01-21 02:48:36 +0000 UTC]

i apologise then

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Jetichor [2015-01-21 12:06:23 +0000 UTC]

No need to apologize.

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Luminanza In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-03-05 04:09:13 +0000 UTC]

btw, don't ever go calling older and more experience people "hun", that sounds ridiculous. And its pretty clear who's mature here - the first person to apologize.

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Luminanza [2015-03-05 21:47:22 +0000 UTC]

First, people shouldn't go and say that they think Anatomy needs a mature tag. Anatomy is what we are. Valiant should not go and say that the artist herself should have a "bad time." It is uncalled for to make such a hobby sound irrelevant. When people go and judge Harry based on its type, such as anatomy, it makes THEM sound immature for taking the human body in a wrong way.

Perhaps sarcastic is what I was being. Nothing wrong with that. Basically, valsiak himself should be the one apoligizing for taking such anatomy in a graphic way.
There is nothing wrong with an artistic drawings the upper torso of a female body. Valsiak saw this and thought it meant something else. Oh, and "btw," maybe it is alright to stick up for an artist when she feels as if no one takes her seriously.

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Luminanza In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-03-05 22:36:22 +0000 UTC]

Hold on a second though. I'm pretty sure, as an outsider to this conversation, that you are misunderstanding his point. 

I'll try to explain why. When he commented the 'bad time' comment, he meant it as she might end up having a bad time IF someone reported her. Which is completely true. Someone might report her, and she would have trouble. I think he had some bad grammar, or maybe said it a bit oddly? But I'm positive this is what he meant, from reading you guys's discussion. In other words, you are saying other people are jumping to conclusions, while really, you are also doing so. 

This is my point of view. I don't give a damn about breasts, they're just parts of our bodies, and bodies shouldn't be a big deal. You are right about this, BUT here's the thing. The world is not based on what we, people with common sense, think. You and me, we are right, but the world doesn't work our way. So when valsiak said this, he was NOT saying 'boobs are bad, you should have a mature content tag', he was saying 'hey, I know boobs isnt an issue, but someone might report you anyway, just a heads up'. Right?

Also, no need to play cool with me, I said you shouldn't call other people 'hun', and you replied with 'lol'..? There was your chance at backing down and maybe apologizing for the ridiculous comment, but you go ahead and laugh in my face. I hope you understand its not acceptable to behave that way, even on the internet. If you're grown up, it'll make you look like an asshat that nobody wants to deal with. If you're a kid, NOBODY is going to take your opinions seriously. How often do you feel like older people give a damn about what you say..? Well, its gonna be even less if you do that again.

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Luminanza [2015-03-06 00:09:30 +0000 UTC]

Understanding the difference between right and wrong is a big part in life. If you are going to but into other people's conversations then go but into your own mom's conversations. We happen to know each other and sometimes joke around. Please do not be childish and jump to conclusions thinking that the main subject of the conversation was about the "bad time." Thinking that a piece of art needs a mature tag is immature. He saw it in an inappropriate way. If you are older, then act like it by not getting into other people conversations and calling other people on the internet "asshats," because that itself is immature and irrelevant. Plain rude. It Is not going to solve anything between the two.

Should you never threaten me like that again and get into other conversations. Just because you see it doesn't mean you have to reply to it. Maybe it's there for only the TWO PEOPLE TO DISCUSS WITH. Don't called that again or I will report you. I give a "damn" about the artists dreams. I give a "Damon" about the artists ability of helping other people by giving them drawing references. Who do you think YOU are? The only opinion that matters is my opinion. The only thing I was doing was just making the artist feel appreciated. Give it a rest. After this is read, I will not reply with anything but i'll comment' towards your rude self for calling me such a name.

What is so bad about telling the replier to give the artist a break and just leave her alone.
If she wants to draw references she can and NO ONE can say she needs a mature tag. If you should know, or if you need to be reinforced, she has the rules by her side. Next time think before you go and get into my conversations.
Or perhaps, you need to look over it again and make sure your side is correct. Must be tough taking certain people's sides when you do not know for sure what any of this means.

I know what I am doing because I know the person. You cannot stop me from freedom of speech. But I DO know that was a threat that you called me. Are you the president? Are you the owner of deviant art? No. So stop getting into other people's conversations and talking like you think you know what your doing. Apparently you don't , because you make yourself look like you are the boss of what you can threaten and say. I know what you as going to say, " first off , YOU are the one and YOU are the one who did this and that..." No. Once again, this is the last time I am going to. get it straight. YOU DON'T KNOW ME. I DO NOT KNOW YOU. Please reconsider yourself and leave me alone until you know for sure who I am.

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Luminanza In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-03-06 01:55:47 +0000 UTC]

I have no idea how you can take someone's words and turn them into something so completely different, you are making me laugh! I never called you that, I was saying it is what you will become, and look like to other people IF you keep behaving this way. I dont give a rats ass as to whether you guys are friends or not, you are replying to a lot of other people's comments as well and making yourself look like a fool. I AM TRYING TO HELP YOU. 

Another thing.... "The only opinion that matters is my opinion." - Wow. That is a really good example of who you are, and I can now tell that you are beyond hope. And at your age!! It is a miserable sight, kid. How did you get this defensive? I am inclined to feel sorry for you, but I do think you live in your own tiny little world, where you know best, where you can take other peoples artwork, and say you made them even when people ask and give you a chance to say no. Do you realize you're talking to someone twice your age? A hired artist in a professional company? What if I was the president? You'd have no idea, because this is the internet. That's what I'm getting at - You're making a fool of yourself and for your own sake, you should stop. I am butting in because I don't give a damn about what YOU think about me, I am only concerned about you. 

I don't need to know you, to get a really bad first impression. Congratulations, I guess you achieved what you wanted, and at such a young age too!; ) Good for you.

ps. for clarification AGAIN:
- I didn't say she didn't have the rules on her side.
- I didn't say I thought breasts should be mature content
- This is a public conversation, and the norm says anyone can say anything they want (that's what you said), including me, you arrogant child.
- I didn't take anyones sides, I was saying the guy was meaning well and you completely chopped off his hand
- I have no idea how you got a threat out of me trying to point out how stupid you sounded
- Maaaybe a bad idea to call people twice your age 'childish', when you are behaving like this

When you get to a certain age, you'll learn to take people's critisism and use it to make yourself better. Look forward to it, it feels sooo much better than being offended by everything.

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Luminanza [2015-03-06 16:25:39 +0000 UTC]

So to speak, I wasn't the one being childish. I wasn't the one talking about what YOU said. Me and Valsiak were getting along just fine afterwards until YOU had to chime in and tell us how you felt towards something that was already worked out. What I would do if I were you is be the mature one and stay out of it. No one asked for your input. If you WERE going to state your opinion, at least make it sound respectful. I was only telling him he needed to understand that these don't need mature tags.
😒 Your the one going on and saying stuff that had nothing to do with the subject whatsoever. I would ignore you if I could.....BUUUUUTTT I think it's completely hysterical how you go on and jump to conclusions like a child when I wasn't even arguing in the first place. Maybe you took it in the wrong way, but you can't just go and call people those things.
🙍 Secondly, I am not going to listen to someone that does not give enough info on why they felt this way. All you were doing is FORCING me to stop, not asking politely. You acting like this shows a reflection on YOUR character, not mine. Either stay out of it, or if you can't say something nice, don't say it at all. "The only opinion that matters is mine" is actually something helpful...what if you get bullied? Will you just ignore your opinion about how great yourself is and follow everyone else's? No.

·If you are going to say something disrespectful, at least make it sound necessary.
Thank you for understanding. Good day now.

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Luminanza In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-03-07 00:41:12 +0000 UTC]

If you are going to say something disrespectful, at least make it sound necessary.

I really, really think you need to sit down and take a look at yourself or go talk to someone. You have huge issues actually comprehending what other people are trying to tell you. I am not bothered by anything you've said, I pointed it out for your sake. You are the one making yourself look bad, why would I care about that? I pointed out the obvious because you clearly don't see it. And I realize now, that you never will before you decide to, so I AM going to back away as the grown-up in this situation.

Btw, if you think I was being disrespectful, you should do something about your defensiveness, it is only hurting yourself. Also, maybe read your own comments, and you'll see who was most offensive. You can't just go around calling people older than yourself childish etc., it is plain stupid.

You have a good day too, thanks for making us laugh over here..

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Luminanza In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-03-05 04:07:17 +0000 UTC]

woah, what a kid! Been a long time since I've seen someone with an attitude like yours. valsiak is absolutely right - I don't want him/her to be, because I wish breasts weren't a big deal. But they currently are to a lot of people and since valsiak seems to give a damn about the artist, he/she pointed it out. I think you lost the point he/she was making and now you sound like a total asshat x''D You should be the one to apologize.

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ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Luminanza [2015-03-05 21:39:39 +0000 UTC]

Lol

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Kibbitzer In reply to Jetichor [2014-12-11 11:54:55 +0000 UTC]

nope, look at the rules <3
about.deviantart.com/policy/se…

"You agree not to use the Service:

  • for any unlawful purposes;
  • to upload, post, or otherwise transmit any material that is obscene, offensive, blasphemous, pornographic, unlawful, threatening, menacing, abusive, harmful, an invasion of privacy or publicity rights, defamatory, libelous, vulgar, illegal or otherwise objectionable;
  • to upload, post, or otherwise transmit any material that infringes any copyright, trade mark, patent or other intellectual property right or any moral right or artist's right of any third party including, but not limited to, deviantART or to facilitate the unlawful distribution of copyrighted content or illegal content;
  • to harm minors in any way, including, but not limited to, uploading, posting, or otherwise transmitting content that violates child pornography laws, child sexual exploitation laws or laws prohibiting the depiction of minors engaged in sexual conduct, or submitting any personally identifiable information about any child under the age of 13;
  • to forge headers or otherwise manipulate identifiers in order to disguise the origin of any Content transmitted through the Service;
  • to upload, post, or otherwise transmit any material which is likely to cause harm to deviantART or anyone else's computer systems, including but not limited to that which contains any virus, code, worm, data or other files or programs designed to damage or allow unauthorized access to the Service which may cause any defect, error, malfunction or corruption to the Service;
  • for any commercial purpose, except as expressly permitted under these Terms;
  • to sell access to the Service on any other website or to use the Service on another website for the primary purpose of gaining advertising or subscription revenue other than a personal blog or social network where the primary purpose is to display content from deviantART by hyperlink and not to compete with deviantART."
  • Nothing here states anything about restrictions on anatomy references.

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    Jetichor In reply to Kibbitzer [2014-12-11 17:04:58 +0000 UTC]

    hey im with you i think the breasts of a woman are not obscene or inherently sexual(wether someone finds them arousing should be on their own but they where not made for that) but this is deviant art...someone will flag you

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    ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Jetichor [2015-01-21 00:41:30 +0000 UTC]

    Exactly. Deviant ART. Do you not believe in anatomy. If it wasn't for this, we wouldn't even know what are bodies purpose is, or perhaps, why it's there. Stop making a big deal over this. There is nothing bad about it. It is human nature. It is art. I think you should understand science and art morphed into one. That is awesome, not inappropriate. It is awesome because it is Art. Clearly you do not understand the reason this is here.

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    Jetichor In reply to ArtisticSPLASH12 [2015-01-21 01:06:42 +0000 UTC]

    well what are you gonna do its gonna get flagged eventualy, i think it was already flagged actually

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    ArtisticSPLASH12 In reply to Jetichor [2015-01-21 01:55:42 +0000 UTC]

    Is it your responsibility if it gets flagged or not.?

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