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Kirame90 In reply to uberkittypie [2009-12-01 17:44:00 +0000 UTC]

Huh? What do you mean?

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uberkittypie In reply to Kirame90 [2009-12-01 17:52:55 +0000 UTC]

I really think you're distorting Vexen's character here. Why on earth would he be so submissive and timid when he has never shown such traits in the game? Yes, he freaks out when he's on the wrong end of a scythe, but in the particular cutscene you're throwing back to, you should notice he very quickly regains his composure and is quick to defy Marluxia despite his rank as Lord of the Castle. The only other time Vexen's pride bowed was just before Axel killed him -- not only is this warranted, given that he was staring down death, but it'd be a stretch to consider it anything more than simple cowardice.

Vexen would not cry in this situation, nor would he any situation, really. Vexen would not beg to be spared from abuse, would not whine about *being* abused, and most certainly would not cry about it.

I'm not even going to touch on how impossible it is for Vexen to love anything but cold science, since this is your fandom and all, and God forbid I rain on that. But I can't stand how much you distort Vexen's character just for the sake of indulging your own fetish/shipping.

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Kirame90 In reply to uberkittypie [2009-12-01 19:21:27 +0000 UTC]

As you can see, I've made this comic from the fan-fic I read. So I am not the one who made Vexen like this, I just follow the text. It's not my fault, even if I do like MarVex this way.
And you're absolutely right, this really isn't how the "real" Vexen acts, but since I have the script to follow, I can't change it.
Thank you for telling your opinions (and not making them too insulting)

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uberkittypie In reply to Kirame90 [2009-12-01 19:58:13 +0000 UTC]

Ah, my mistake. Well, I commend you for being level-headed about my criticism, and I'll be sure to direct it to the source of my ire rather than heaping it on you.

I still disapprove of perpetuating this mutilation of Vexen's character, and encourage you to seek more well-written fiction to draw fanart of; while I can't think of any off the top of my head that portray Vexen this way in a believable manner, there *is* good 4/11 out there that makes the relationship itself believable without taking either of them out of character.

Maybe I'm alone in believing that characterization is the most important part of any fanwork, but I feel that if you're taking away everything that makes a character who they are, there's no point in fangirling over them, is there?

Continue improving, and good luck.

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HazyDreamerAirinora In reply to uberkittypie [2009-12-11 16:49:59 +0000 UTC]

I know his character is broken in my fanfiction, but then again, it's a fanfiction. Cant nail their characters exactly as you desire them to be. Besides~. It's called A.U.. :3 I understand that the character is broken and stuff, but do note that character can be broken if someone you loved so much started to abuse you~ <3 That's what I was focused on.

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uberkittypie In reply to HazyDreamerAirinora [2009-12-11 19:05:41 +0000 UTC]

But that's just the thing. Vexen *wouldn't* be broken by that sort of thing; he has too much pride for that. He would be much more likely to resort to anger and self-righteous pettiness than to break down and cry and sob and bawwwwww.

I haven't read the entirety of your fic, I admit -- I'm just going off of this little snippet. So I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and imagine that you have so thoroughly developed their relationship as to provide an unshakable foundation for their romance (because Vexen, AU or not, is a very difficult person and it'd take major work to get him to warm up to anyone.)

So there would be angst, yes, if Marluxia suddenly decided to be quite different, and I'm assuming that there's a reason for the sudden change in his behavior as opposed to his just deciding LET'S BE A COMPLETE JERK TO THE ONE WE LOVE TODAY~ or having kept his abusive nature a secret from Vexen, which is improbable, as Vexen isn't a dumbass and would see the warning signs before he bit the hook.

But all that aside, don't you think this is a little extreme? For Vexen to allow himself to break is one thing -- in anyone else's presence, that's damn near impossible. He has too much pride. He carries himself with too much dignity, and it would take extreme circumstance -- such as facing death -- for him to give up that charade.

I notice, also, that at least Axel and Marluxia thus far have the same weapons/powers as they did in canon, and I dearly hope that your AU isn't based on the premise that they're still Nobodies, lacking hearts. Because then you simply don't have an excuse. At all. I'd be happy to explain this to you if you don't understand why.

Lastly, you switched your definition of "broken" in the middle of that paragraph, and judging by context I'm assuming you meant "emotionally broken" (impossible for a Nobody to achieve) as opposed to "out of character." I don't think that any circumstance should bring your characters out of character. Ever. Period. As writers, it is our duty to try and give our characters as much characterization as possible, and make them believable.

You have yet to justify why Vexen is out of character here.

"It's a fanfiction" does not justify why he should be out of character. "AU" does not justify why he should be out of character. "A character can be broken blah blah blah" does not justify why he should be out of character.

Why?

Because there is no reason why anyone should be out of character.

If he's broken, fix him.

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Kirame90 In reply to uberkittypie [2009-12-02 05:34:32 +0000 UTC]

You really have good points, I must admit that. And yes, I have read many kinds of 4/11 -fics, but this was so different I just have to draw it, even if the characters aren't like in the original game.
Thank you!

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Kirame90 In reply to HazyDreamerAirinora [2009-12-01 05:27:47 +0000 UTC]

Then this is the right comic for you
And thanks for faving! ^^

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Kirame90 In reply to Sofy202 [2009-11-30 15:37:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks
And thank you for faving ^^

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Sofy202 In reply to Kirame90 [2009-11-30 17:46:11 +0000 UTC]

u welcome.....I want to see more....

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