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"Yes", I said to myself, after looking over my first family tree, "let's do Sandstorm's tree next, as a companion piece."...
Man was I underestimating the size of my own tree!! I got this far, and just... decided it would be better to do it all in parts, heh... honestly the size of these charts, they're gonna terminate my drawing program sooner rather than later holy shit. Get any worse, and I will seriously have to consider resizing 'em. owo;
IMPORTANT NOTE, PLS READ, SERIOUSLY DON'T SKIP I DON'T WANNA GET FLOODED BY MESSAGES: THIS TREE IS NOT CANON, AT ALL. IT IS MY CREATION, I STOPPED REFERENCING CANON SOMETIME AFTER GOOSEFEATHER'S CURSE CAME OUT. I DEFY THE ERINS. I DEFY SUE. I DEFY EVERYONE'S WILL BUT MY OWN. IF THIS TREE ISN'T TO YOUR TASTE, WELL SHIT MAKE YOUR OWN.
ALSO, I WILL NOT MAKE A CANON-FRIENDLY VERSION, CUZ BASICALLY, MAKING A COMPARABLE TREE ISN'T POSSIBLE WITH THE LACK OF IN-CANON RELATIONS. ^^
So there. Now then, for some genetics...
Starlingfeather: Precisely as in canon. No change.
Hawksnow: "white speckles" I think not, some proper white undersides instead for you old man. Otherwise there's no change. Still a black tabby.
Fawnstep: Now backed up by genetics by being a fawn tabby-and-white. Her blue eyes were exchanged for hazel cuz I felt like it.
Birdflight: Also fully possible now with a cinnamon tabby coat.
Cloudstar: No changes, still blue-and-white. And lookit, his eyes are even blue.
Fernpelt: Yeah I made her Cloud's lil' sister. Suck it. She's also just like her canon self, btw.
Buzzardstar: Also another one with no changes made to himself, whoopie.
Gorseclaw: Canon design still applies, only I made his eyes golden instead, for no reason.
Spottedpelt: LOL ANOTHER COPY RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW, OUPSIES. "innocent blinking" but seriously she wasn't genetically right since, well, where's the red colour in her parents, eh??
Beetail: Another canon design that actually works. Yay.
Kestrelwing: Genetically correct, even with the addition of a brother~
Tansytail(paw): I gave 'em all a warrior name, cuz if felt weird to have 'paws' in the tree, and I kinda like them. Tansy needed a rehashing though, because LIKE ALWAYS, she-cats need TWO red parents in order to be solid red.
Weaselwhisker: Same as always, with a long fluffy coat.
Snailfoot(paw): The only one of his litter who actually worked from the start, ain't that hilarious.
Emberfall(kit): Gone from solid red to a red tortie, I'll touch up on her later when I get to her part of the tree~
Mintflower(paw): The opposite problem of her sister, with a red dad Mint can and MUST be a tortoiseshell. Final.
Thrushtalon: I picked this guy since his name appealed to me lol. He's now a lilac tabby tom, and that works.
Sweetbriar: She follows her canon description mooooore or less but I wanted more white spotting on her, to better resemble Sweetpaw. u3u
Mumblefoot: Solid chocolate. Now his solid coat actually works.
Fallowsong: Solid lilac. Again, now his solid coat does work.
Squirrelwhisker: I was SO. ANNOYED. when they had to go make her Windflight's mother I mean hello, her design SCREAMS ADDERFANG LONG WAY OFF. So I mended it to my taste.
Stonepelt: I always favoured the idea that he was Stormtail's dad, sooo... yes, I did. Also he works genetically too.
Sunpelt: Cream tabby. He works, with the parents I gave him.
Rowanfur: Again, he too works thanks to his new parentage. Btw, Rowan is a non-tabby red, meaning he doesn't breed for tabby even though he looks it.
Honeyleaf: And her too, of course. ;w;
Swallowflight: He works, thanks to his new parents. Also there's a cousin marriage for you but seriously who cares, we've gone over this in my journal, right?
Spiderstar: I kinda like them as brothers. Makes the scenes with broken SkyClan more interesting. And he's a heterozygous ticked tabby cuz Ember's got it in her ancestry~
Pinestar: Solid cinnamon, which is the most realistic rendition of his canon looks, I tell you.
Poppydawn: Made them siblings. I mean, that is what they suggested in BP, right?? Talk about silly decisions since. She's lost her ginger fur tho, there's none of it in her parentage so it doesn't work - so I went with cinnamon tabby instead, to retain the "reddish" feeling.
Rabbitleap: Exactly like always. Also talk about lazy naming on the Erins' side.
Heronwing: Okay so he lost his tabby thanks to his non-canon parents but y'know I don't really care. He's now a solid chocolate longhair instead. uwu;
Stormtail: Exactly like he always was. And genetically correct. Which won't last canonically if Vicky gets her way and makes him FLASHNOSE'S SON. No thank you. Also I got the sense Swiftbreeze was like, the youngest of the apprentices so she was the boys' tag-along or something. xD
Adderfang: He too works for the time being, yay.
Barley: WTF are you doing here?? Well you see since there was a whole deal with his nephew and niece going to SkyClan (I never read that book sounded like utter garbage to me) I figured that it would make the irony so much more tangible if they had SkyClan blood. xD Besides that, Barley's genetically sound cuz he has no confirmed parents (and I found no one in this time slot to fit either)
Violet: Since she most likely does not have the right parents for it, I decided to go safe and make her a calico instead of a red, and that way her kids can mostly come out right too. uwu;
Hoot: Same as always, tho I gave him a pair of odd-eyes to make him stand out.
Jumper: Look, I even kept his funky jaw! And he's otherwise the same as always. (psst, however is it just me or does he look kinda like Hitler?? o.o; )
(c) Dearly disliked Erin Hunter
Art and designs: Me
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Comments: 61
TobyandMavisforever [2018-01-27 13:01:51 +0000 UTC]
"Barley: What the heck are you doing here?!"
Sorry, that question cracked me up.
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KittyStorage In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2018-03-22 14:28:04 +0000 UTC]
Hehe I hoped it would be funny~ x3
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AskxXSnowStormXx [2017-05-19 03:45:32 +0000 UTC]
I thought Jumper looked like him too! I scrolled down to see if you said he looked like Hitler and you did!
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dehani [2017-05-04 02:15:10 +0000 UTC]
I only recognize a few cats here -- and I don't just mean design-wise, I mean, like...name-wise LMAO Only a couple cats that I know off the bat are Stormtail, Adderfang, Barley, Violet, and yeah, you get the jist...however, all the designs here are amazing, which is no surprise, considering the artist B))) My favs are most definitely Hawksnow's and Barley's whole fam. Mintflower and Emberfall's designs are also hella striking!!
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Leoparddream [2017-04-30 06:58:39 +0000 UTC]
JUMPER LOOKS LIKE HITLER XDXD
no wonder hes evil X3
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TimmysDragonCarpet In reply to Leoparddream [2022-08-11 05:31:10 +0000 UTC]
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KalahariMeerkatfan [2017-04-21 13:23:47 +0000 UTC]
So...it is Thrushtalon who was the origin of Sandstorm's lilac?
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Io-Moon [2017-04-17 14:07:44 +0000 UTC]
Your artwork is absolutely beautiful, you should do a tutorial sheet about cat genetics.
Also yes Jumper does indeed look like Hilter
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Snowfeather4876 [2017-04-15 22:53:09 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, I've got admit I have no clue who half the cats are here... I only really read the 'main' series (1-4) and a few Super Editions, so... But I'm loving that cinnamon & chocolate gathering down the bottom left corner xD But I totally dig the idea of Stormtail and Adderfang being brothers, and Barley appearing in this tree. Also, have I mentioned that your tortoiseshells are so, so pretty? Because they really are.
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KittyStorage In reply to Snowfeather4876 [2017-04-16 13:02:28 +0000 UTC]
Yes since I stopped reading, these are like the last characters I actually have a faint clue on, but these days I don't care overmuch anyway. Ah yes, the cinnamon-chocolate boom that, it's what happens when there's an overdose of unrealistic designs haha. xD But I'm glad you do and thank you very much, I'm happy to hear it~
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Leafsongtala [2017-04-15 10:40:38 +0000 UTC]
This is AMAZING!!! I want to learn cat genetics so badly, I'm sure you're asked a lot, but, how would you suggest learning?
You always have the best alterations and I rather you write the series than the actual "Erins". Genetically sound cats and theories are so needed. And plus Hitler cat has me dying.
Anyway, I just thought I'd tell you how much I enjoy your work and it brightens my day Everytime you post, you're an amazing writer and artist and tbh I'd read any book you wrote. have a lovely day!
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KittyStorage In reply to Leafsongtala [2017-04-15 21:44:14 +0000 UTC]
My goodness, this comment really made my day, you couldn't possibly have timed it better I woke up slightly depressed and saw this, and now feel so much better. Thank you so very much
Well, the way I learned genetics, was by starting easy. By doing so I started from the easier-to-understand websites (wikipedia actually, their cat genetics page is surprisingly good) and like, "advanced" myself with time. Reading cat books, guides, and genetics websites. Messybeast.com is the best, but for specific genes (like Bengal genes, ambers, Siamese colourpoints) then official breed pages are really handy to check too, since they're so specialized. ^^
And thanks again, you really gave me such a boost with your kind words. ;w;
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Crystal--Skies [2017-04-12 03:46:59 +0000 UTC]
I flipping LOVE the way emberfall looks SOOOOOOO much! She's soooo beautiful!
also, quadrouplets maybe? (down in the bottom right corner) XD
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KittyStorage In reply to Crystal--Skies [2017-04-15 21:40:49 +0000 UTC]
Glad to hear it, thank you!
Very likely indeed~
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AstarGoldenwing [2017-04-08 14:40:16 +0000 UTC]
Hehe, I admit that I'm completely lost when it comes to tracking cats' relations when things go further back in time than the generation of 'Bluestar's Prophecy'. I like how you made Fawnstep and Birdflight siblings, as well as Beetail and Kestrelwing, it helps to have more in-Clan relations in the earlier time periods. I love Spottedpelt's redesign, too.
Wait, is Stonepelt there Bluepaw's first mentor? That would mean that he is Bluestar's granddad? Darn, that would've been cool!
Adderfang and Stormtail being brothers is a nice idea, too.
By the way, speaking of Barley's parents, wouldn't Myler from 'Mapleshade's Vengeance' fit? I'm not sure how far it's in the timeline, but he was black-and-white barn cat, and I suppose he could've strayed to the city and father Barley there.
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KittyStorage In reply to AstarGoldenwing [2017-04-11 13:20:07 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, it took a while before I could even start to fit things together that went pre-Bluestar's time, I'll be honest about that (and the erins have done little to help- sure, we have a few extra characters from the time between SkyClan and Bluestar's era, but the lineages are messed up, and now they pretend that Pinestar's novella happens like, only three years after Mapleshade's?? WTF) but I'm glad you like the new siblings, I often feel like medicine cats who haven't family in the first place get totally overlooked, so I set to redeem that hehe. :3 And yay for Spottedpelt's new look, that does please me~
And yes, I very much like the idea of grandpa Stonepelt - he had a very sort of kin-like feel to him when I last red BP (years ago but lol) and seemed somewhat similar to Stormtail so I couldn't leave the idea alone, hehe~ Oooh but that's not a bad idea at all, I'll have to look into thi Myler character and see what I could do with him - it also fits since you say he could've strayed, I mean unfixed toms spend half their lives straying around, looking for the ladies. ;w;
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Sketch-Petra In reply to Sketch-Petra [2017-04-07 00:52:53 +0000 UTC]
This was excessive spam
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Sketch-Petra In reply to KittyStorage [2017-04-16 00:31:46 +0000 UTC]
Sorry for the inconvenience
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Twistedfoot [2017-04-05 18:18:49 +0000 UTC]
Oh my god Jumper's the Hitler kitty!
Now that I know that the warriors universe doesn't follow genetics at all, I just shrug it off since it's a fantasy universe. I mean, somehow the cats can't land on their feet, nor can they drink saltwater (though I'll let that one slide, since it's not as well-known as freaking cats landing on their feet dammit). They also referred to multiple fish as "fishes" once, and then never did it again... wtf, editors, do your job!
Are you just really knowledgeable on cat genetics? Or is there some fancy website that tells you these things?
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KittyStorage In reply to Twistedfoot [2017-04-07 00:27:11 +0000 UTC]
Thank god I'm not the only one who thinks so, I mean now in retrospect I realize he's also got the Fuhrer's blue eyes jesus I can't- xD
Yah, you deal best with this fandom by like, pretending they're not cats at all. Honestly, every cat owner in existence would shake their heads and like, wtf this isn't like my mister snuggles does it?? Also the editors are just as bad, either they've all got brains the size of mosquitos or they're all dog people lol.
Ahem, well these days I am this knowledgeable, if I may be so bold, but yes I've been reading up for a few years now, I've got half a dozen cat books, one cat guide, and a handful websites that have managed to help me get where I am today. ;w;
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Twistedfoot In reply to KittyStorage [2017-04-11 00:34:47 +0000 UTC]
This inspires me to try doing my own research XD this is starting to feel so neat to me!
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KittyStorage In reply to Darkwillow18 [2017-04-07 00:24:16 +0000 UTC]
Oh she is, but I couldn't be bothered to add her generation, the tree was taxing enough already, so you'll probably have to wait until I get to Adderfang's "section" of the family tree before spotting Spotty (lol pun intended)
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SABLEster [2017-04-05 03:52:16 +0000 UTC]
I like how you make them look realistic and actually think about how they would look in real life based on their parents
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KittyStorage In reply to SABLEster [2017-04-07 00:23:38 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad to hear it, thank you
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SABLEster In reply to KittyStorage [2017-04-07 00:35:51 +0000 UTC]
You're more than welcome!
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Fluffixis [2017-04-05 00:18:47 +0000 UTC]
you could totally make add headcanons in the '?'s and add it as seperate -shrug
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KittyStorage In reply to Fluffixis [2017-04-07 00:23:27 +0000 UTC]
Yah maybe, but that's such work so we'll see if I can bother - l want to at least get some more trees done before then~ uvo
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Fluffixis In reply to KittyStorage [2017-04-07 00:52:14 +0000 UTC]
i really like the trees though! also incase i can't dig through the warriors wiki i go here for more canon type info.
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KittyStorage In reply to Fluffixis [2017-04-15 21:21:08 +0000 UTC]
I'm flattered to hear that, thank you
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le-letha [2017-04-04 23:35:51 +0000 UTC]
Wow, I love your art and the thought you've put into everything, trying to wrench everything into shape (I'd much rather have it in your hands than the Erins, by far), but MAN am I glad I dropped out of the Warriors fandom before things got this complicated. At this point I have little to no idea who all these characters are, where they're from, or what they did at any point in time, but following the traits through the generations is very enjoyable anyway. Thank you for doing all this work!
(I do wish it was a tiny bit larger so I could see the designs more clearly, but I don't want to put you to any more trouble than you've already gone to.)
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KittyStorage In reply to le-letha [2017-04-07 00:22:25 +0000 UTC]
I am ever so pleased to hear that, believe me thank you very much! And yes, honestly if the erins had any sense they'd have hired me as their editor loooong ago LOL. xD Also I somewhat envy you omg I never seem to get out of this fandom hellhole, so I'm kinda like, making the most of it hehe.
I've made it possible to click the image now to enlargen it, so I hope that helps you a bit.
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le-letha In reply to KittyStorage [2017-04-07 02:15:12 +0000 UTC]
I knew the Clans had to be in trouble, genetically, just from some simple math, but I hadn't really stopped to figure out HOW much trouble until I read through your work. Now I feel like that's the real story here: how long their system can survive before inbreeding and other demands of biology start breaking it down.
...and yet, my curiosity about that is still not enough to get me back into the fandom. Series one and two existed and everything after that is apocrypha and superfluous. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
Wow, that's a truly enormous size now! Fantastic! I really appreciate it! They're such pretty cats, and never mind whatever plots they were supposed to be scattered around in. It's great that SOMEONE is an expert, at least, and thank you very much for stepping up and doing so much to restore some kind of sanity around here.
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KittyStorage In reply to le-letha [2017-04-15 21:20:46 +0000 UTC]
Yes, one always got the sense that there was inbreeding, but once I sat down and pieced together what links were available, the result was rather bleak.
But I am very much like you, I got to a point in the books where I decided it had all been a bad dream, and ever since, figured I'd stay in my AU world instead~ So much pleasanter than canon lol.
And I am happy to be a voice of sanity in this crazy fandom, thank you
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Sketch-Petra [2017-04-04 21:56:48 +0000 UTC]
That would mean Barley is related to Tigerstar, Mr. Ravepaw are you sure that was a good decision?? Also that would mean Tigerstar's relatives were in Bloodclan, Mr. Scourge are you sur-
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Optimistic-Whiteout [2017-04-04 16:42:45 +0000 UTC]
as always, i'm a huge fan of your designs, detailed descriptions, headcanons, and stories! <3
i'm very curious, can i ask what non-tabby red means - for rowanfur, even though he looks like a red tabby? i love learning about genetics and i can't seem to wrap my head around it.
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KittyStorage In reply to Optimistic-Whiteout [2017-04-15 21:46:04 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much, I am glad to hear it - and pleased that Agryo was able to help you so quickly wow that's faster than even I could react. xD
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Agryo In reply to Optimistic-Whiteout [2017-04-04 21:05:02 +0000 UTC]
Red, aka ginger, cats show tabby stripes even if they aren't genetically tabbies. Meaning that if this cat had an exact genetic copy except they had the black/etc gene instead of red, they'd be a solid[aka black or blue etc] cat instead of a tabby. ^^ You can also sorta tell due to the fact that his muzzle/throat isn't paler compared to the surrounding fur, unlike his dad and grandad.
Hope I was of help! <33
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Optimistic-Whiteout In reply to Agryo [2017-04-09 23:04:59 +0000 UTC]
This is so interesting and helpful, thank you so much! It's so fascinating to note that the muzzle/throat isn't paler in them. I have been thinking a lot about this since I read your comment and have been wondering if some of the ginger "tabbies" I've seen in the past were true tabbies after all. Is there any good way to tell the difference? For example:
Would you say that this cat is a true tabby?: i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/a…
In comparison to say, this cat: media.gettyimages.com/photos/g…
Thanks so much for your help! And it's okay if you don't have an answer re: identifying them, I'm just not sure where to find more resources about it and I'm so curious. (btw, I hope you don't mind, but I totally recognized your 'sona Agryo from lioden as soon as I saw your comment! It's always surprising to see lioden users on other sites haha)
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Agryo In reply to Optimistic-Whiteout [2017-04-10 01:00:12 +0000 UTC]
No problem at all! ^^ I'm no expert, and gingers can get a bit confusing due to some being a little less intense on the contrast than others(cursed individual variation!), but I don't think the first guy's a tabby; he shows as a classic tabby, but given his throat and paws I'd be inclined to say he's solid. ^^
Here's a pretty decent head's up/guide to the really basic cat stuff by my good buddy:
As for everything else, including weird mutations and stuff, Messybeast is really the place to go: messybeast.com/colours-conform…
(Bwahaha, now why would I mind? ;D My Lioden icon is her before her more recent revamp, but I'm glad to know she's still distinctive enough! <33 Who're you down there, if I can ask?)
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