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Description Fetus (first trimester):[link]
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth

Baby:[link]
: An infant; a newborn child.

A fetus is not a baby. Not even close.


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Kotego In reply to ??? [2011-04-27 00:59:10 +0000 UTC]

Not to mention a lot of pro-lifers support war and the death penalty. It's exactly "pro-life" if you're selective of which life is worth saving. I don't know why they don't just call themselves "pro-fetus" or something.


LOL, I bet I would get some answers like "jail time", or something. It's like penalizing people for attempting suicide: it's retarded.

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TsukiDuki In reply to Kotego [2011-04-27 01:22:15 +0000 UTC]

It's really... Egh. To me.

Oh, no. The video I saw, some guy walked around a pro-life rally, like a protest, and the answers ranged from "I never thought about it" to "That's for God to decide."

Like... You want it to be ILLEGAL. For something to be ILLEGAL there has to be a LEGAL penalty. You can't say "THIS IS ILLEGAL!!! but if you do it that's between you and god"

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Kotego In reply to TsukiDuki [2011-04-27 01:38:21 +0000 UTC]

People are stupid sometimes

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TsukiDuki In reply to Kotego [2011-04-27 02:16:52 +0000 UTC]

They really are.

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missEyez In reply to ??? [2011-04-26 00:44:31 +0000 UTC]

I think it's a baby, no matter how small

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tsubasacorrupted In reply to missEyez [2011-11-30 17:54:42 +0000 UTC]

medicaly, it isnt. its a fetus lol ur welcome to ur opinion though.

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Kotego In reply to missEyez [2011-04-26 01:12:02 +0000 UTC]

Well, it's not.

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missEyez In reply to Kotego [2011-04-27 22:44:28 +0000 UTC]

keep tellin urself that

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Kotego In reply to missEyez [2011-05-23 01:34:26 +0000 UTC]

Okay, I'll stick with the facts while you stick with your emotional bullshit

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Riza-Izumi In reply to Kotego [2011-12-30 17:59:41 +0000 UTC]

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Kotego In reply to Riza-Izumi [2011-12-30 18:02:48 +0000 UTC]

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TheHideousBirdchild In reply to missEyez [2011-05-07 05:33:48 +0000 UTC]

Ever heard of a pot calling a kettle black?

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hrwilliams In reply to ??? [2011-04-24 22:31:26 +0000 UTC]

That's right! It isn't a baby until it's born. It is a fetus until the moment before birth.
But it IS human life.

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ghostwolfen In reply to hrwilliams [2011-04-25 15:34:48 +0000 UTC]

A fetus is a group of cells which is not living but is in an existence, so technically not a life but a form. A fetus cannot live without its host/mother therefore related it to do the term "parasite" (which is stated in the dictionary). When a baby is born it is life yes no doubt about that, but when deos existence become life that is the question at hand here.

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Kotego In reply to hrwilliams [2011-04-25 00:13:57 +0000 UTC]

I don't deny it's life

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hrwilliams In reply to Kotego [2011-04-25 02:52:44 +0000 UTC]

Then we agree that fetuses are human beings, and your stamp is hair-splitting silliness that isn't going to persuade anyone to change their worldview. Cool.

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Kotego In reply to hrwilliams [2011-04-25 05:34:34 +0000 UTC]

I never said it's human I only said its life.


I don't want to change anyone's worldview, it's just a stamp.

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hrwilliams In reply to Kotego [2011-04-25 14:04:39 +0000 UTC]

It's a stamp that's trying to make a point.

So a fetus growing inside a human isn't a human?

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Kotego In reply to hrwilliams [2011-04-25 22:22:41 +0000 UTC]

Nope, it's a clump of cells with the potential to become a human

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hrwilliams In reply to Kotego [2011-04-26 22:00:35 +0000 UTC]

...Whatever you gotta tell yourself. But I'd be hard pressed to find any doctor who'd tell you it isn't human DNA.

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Master-of-the-Boot In reply to ??? [2011-04-24 15:44:06 +0000 UTC]

The anti-chioce side knows no logic

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Kotego In reply to Master-of-the-Boot [2011-04-24 18:41:41 +0000 UTC]

From all the arguments I've seen, truer words have never been spoken

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Master-of-the-Boot In reply to Kotego [2011-04-25 01:14:04 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

and to my ever lasting shame I misspelled choice

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piarro In reply to ??? [2011-04-24 00:55:09 +0000 UTC]

Okay, you're pro-choice. Got it. You definitely have the right to take whatever standpoint you believe in, as does everyone else.

What's funny is reading some of the comments on here.

Like... What's a steam cell? Is that human? What's a zygote? Does a steam cell have the potential to become a human? Steam denatures proteins. OMG!!! You killed a protein!!! Doesn't matter it's not a human. But it came from a human... therefore it is human. Not a human being. Parents!!! What about them?? Ummm.... they suck.

Although this is a very serious topic... I just wanted to add some lightness to this.

BTW, here's where I stand: The only opinion that really deeply matters is the one that I have of myself.

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Kotego In reply to piarro [2011-04-24 01:39:40 +0000 UTC]

LOL Steam-cell is probably just a typo, but what you say made me laugh

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piarro In reply to Kotego [2011-04-24 02:01:29 +0000 UTC]

total typo... i knew what was meant

glad you laughed

be well

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Sephiex In reply to ??? [2011-04-24 00:42:35 +0000 UTC]

Abortion is convenient killing. De-humanizing it is just an excuse.

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Rocky-Vermillion In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-30 15:14:41 +0000 UTC]

Would you rather more and more kids be born into the world with more defects, more rape victim's children, more with an unloving family?

Think about this. People that want kids are one thing, forcing them upon people that don't is just as bad as killing a collection of cells.

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Sephiex In reply to Rocky-Vermillion [2011-04-30 18:15:50 +0000 UTC]

I would not. Thus they must be killed, but it -is- killing; and people who claim otherwise are just weak and trying to deceive themselves into being self-righteous.

Making up pretty justifications like "it's just a group of cells" just makes me laugh. Everyone is "just a group of cells."

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StarryOak In reply to Sephiex [2011-11-11 23:08:28 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but we are just a group of cells." that can think. fetuses cant

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Rocky-Vermillion In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-30 18:19:18 +0000 UTC]

I'll try reason with you when you pull your head out your own ass

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Sephiex In reply to Rocky-Vermillion [2011-04-30 18:21:31 +0000 UTC]

Same to you? Heh.

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ghostwolfen In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-25 15:36:50 +0000 UTC]

Bawww I loose a potential "human" being every moth woe is me. I've also had a miss-carriage in my lifetime that could have been a potential "human" but it never was so it deos not count as murder or killing its called nature.

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ghostwolfen In reply to ghostwolfen [2011-04-25 15:37:00 +0000 UTC]

*month

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Sephiex In reply to ghostwolfen [2011-04-25 21:31:55 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, killing is part of nature. Whether it causes you sorrow or not is irrelevant, but it is none-the-less killing.

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AsterHyakinthou In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-26 07:43:57 +0000 UTC]

You kill several hundred potential humans every time you jack off. At least we only lose 1 a month, as opposed to...what, a few billions? Tens of billions?

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Sephiex In reply to AsterHyakinthou [2011-04-26 22:20:05 +0000 UTC]

The survival chance of a human fetus is far higher than that of a sperm.
A fetus is almost fated to become a human, while a sperm...is most likely not. The difference in that "potential" chance becomes exponentially higher.

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AsterHyakinthou In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-27 03:27:09 +0000 UTC]

A woman still has hundreds of thousands of eggs in a lifetime. You can't tell me they're all "fated" to become human. Most them get wrapped up in pads and tampons.
Either way, it almost sounds as if you're arguing that men are expendable.

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ghostwolfen In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-25 21:48:11 +0000 UTC]

Not really as your dissucussions verge more onto murder which is emotional (such as this subject) we are apex predators and part of a cycle therefore killing is a part of who we are whether you like that or not.

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famartist In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-24 23:42:22 +0000 UTC]

How dare we de-humanize a mass of non breathing non thinking non feeling lump of cells. Truly we are pro murderers.

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Sephiex In reply to famartist [2011-04-25 00:17:03 +0000 UTC]

Yep, and with no legal ramifications even!

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Kotego In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-24 01:39:53 +0000 UTC]

It's not de-humanizing when it's not human to begin with

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Sephiex In reply to Kotego [2011-04-24 03:34:46 +0000 UTC]

It is a human larva. If that which is not fully developed is not considered the same species, then it would not be "human."

However, it certainly has not developed a conscience. Thus it would be similar to killing someone who is sleeping.

In my opinion, the only ones who need to die are the rapists and irresponsible whores.

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Professor-Titsweat In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-25 14:29:09 +0000 UTC]

"Rapists and irresponsible whores" are living beings too, so you can't really call yourself "pro-life," now can you?

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Sephiex In reply to Professor-Titsweat [2011-04-25 21:30:30 +0000 UTC]

Once again, I never claimed to be....

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Professor-Titsweat In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-27 13:34:35 +0000 UTC]

So you're just an ignorant creep then?

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WerewolfOfTheWater In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-24 19:43:19 +0000 UTC]

So basically you think if a woman has sex before she's ready for pregnancy, she should die? But not the man who got her pregnant? That's not very pro-life, it's just misogynistic.

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Sephiex In reply to WerewolfOfTheWater [2011-04-24 20:08:12 +0000 UTC]

Being ready for pregnancy is the woman's responsibility. If she consented, then pregnancy is her fault.

And I never claimed to be "pro-life."

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WerewolfOfTheWater In reply to Sephiex [2011-04-24 20:32:15 +0000 UTC]

Ah okay you're not pro-life you're just misogynistic. Not like there's much difference anyway.

If it's the woman's responsibility to be ready for pregnancy, then it's also the man's responsibility to not have sex with a woman who isn't ready for pregnancy. Why is it okay for men to fuck as many women as they want but if a woman does the same, she deserves to die? You think women are property don't you?

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Sephiex In reply to WerewolfOfTheWater [2011-04-24 20:48:20 +0000 UTC]

Your assumptions / accusations are most amusing.

Actually, I treat women with more respect than most men.

If it makes you feel better, the guy could die too. That is, if they can't actually raise the child.

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