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Oil paint on card (will get accurate measurements later)Here's the final --> [link]
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October 2009
AGE 16
1) Where do you feel I should place more metal parts for a true torturous feel that passes on to the viewer?
2) Where should I place more blood spatters?
3) What muscles should I pull?
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Krathalos In reply to InfinateOne [2010-03-30 23:40:30 +0000 UTC]
thanks
Be sure to check out the finished version
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PimArt [2010-01-05 11:52:52 +0000 UTC]
Awsome!
Metal parts behind the teeth in the flesh would be cruel, this way the person cuts open his mouth from the inside when he is eating for example.
2 + 3 are good.
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Krathalos In reply to PimArt [2010-01-06 22:14:42 +0000 UTC]
eating? I don't think he'd do any of that any time soon XD
But yeah it's what I'm doing. Though I won't be done with this for a while. Haven't been into painting so much since leaving my other school, I've been more into music and martial arts so...yeah...this one'll be pending, I'm afraid.
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PimArt In reply to Krathalos [2010-01-07 05:28:16 +0000 UTC]
Anything is possible, if you were a sick murderer and gave him an important reason to eat something, then he maybe would do that, you can use your fantasy on that part
And don't feel obligated to work on it, stick to the things that you want
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SkyeTrinity [2009-12-06 06:37:09 +0000 UTC]
I think some hooks or other device pulling the skin of the gums at the top of the pic might do some good, or maybe just a needle passing through the flesh. Some blood splater by the screws on the righthand side might be nice. They seem a little naked over there and I don't know if it is possible or not, but to have a screw that is crooked and not all the way in seems to me to be very tortourous. (I might have made that word up!) I hope that is helpfull feedback.
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Thecosmicgoose [2009-11-18 08:53:00 +0000 UTC]
oh god this is twitch inducing.
there needs to be more wrinkles around the mouth, particularly around where the clamps press into the flesh. probably more extream splatter around there too.
you portrayed the idea of the image very well. reminds me of some H.R. Giger stuff. Bravo.
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Krathalos In reply to Thecosmicgoose [2009-11-23 22:14:32 +0000 UTC]
Lovely
Yeah I agree on the wrinkles part. The blood splatters I'll work as I go.
Thank ye
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SafetyXPinXSurgery [2009-11-14 23:11:11 +0000 UTC]
Very.. er, interesting work here. Very realistic. Unfortunatly, cause im picky Im a little bothered by the lack of a structured tongue. Other than that Im honestly amazed by the grusome detail in this
. Great work.
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Krathalos In reply to SafetyXPinXSurgery [2009-11-15 00:00:01 +0000 UTC]
Yes the tongue is very difficult to draw/paint so I'm gonna work it now that it's dry.
Glad you like it
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SafetyXPinXSurgery In reply to Krathalos [2009-11-15 01:59:31 +0000 UTC]
If you feel that adding in more detail will ruin what you have of course you dont have to take that risk. Its great . Amazing work.
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Krathalos In reply to SafetyXPinXSurgery [2009-11-15 12:55:34 +0000 UTC]
But I am going to take that risk. I want it to be perfect
Glad you like my work
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BeatingDeadHeroes [2009-11-14 17:05:15 +0000 UTC]
Striking piece. The teeth look great. I don't know that the hooks and implementation need particular angles, but I think more would definitely be better, coming from all different angles. Any way to work some rust or stains in there? The right side seems neglected in terms of tension; it just doesn't have the lines that the left side does, so that's where I'd pull more of your muscles.
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Krathalos In reply to BeatingDeadHeroes [2009-11-14 21:34:41 +0000 UTC]
Well the right side is still quite unfinished soo....
and yeah I tried some rust before but it should be easier now that it's dry.
Thanks
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MrSanco [2009-11-12 22:31:54 +0000 UTC]
i fkking love this
1) Where do you feel I should place more metal parts for a true torturous feel that passes on to the viewer?
i think a hook or sumthing that goes between his theet and flesh that rip's the flesh off(his teeth) would look nice
2) Where should I place more blood spatters?
the face bleed's alot so dont be 2 cheap with it and expand the blood a bit
and i think that some dripping blood of his teeth or lip would look cool as well
3) What muscles should I pull?
tough one :/
under his tongue would be nice but i think that's not possiable anymore :/
so i dun think there's alot more left
i'd love 2 see the finished version ^^
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Krathalos In reply to MrSanco [2009-11-13 22:06:18 +0000 UTC]
About the blood, I'm not sure...I think I'll just add more rip-like blood on the holds, but keep some of the areas clean. Some people suggested I keep it clean to make the torturer look professional.
hmmm I'm still going to work on the tongue so that's a very VERY interesting thought...how come I hadn't thought of that?!? (I probably did but with all of this other crap I forgot ^^'
Thanks for the advice, I'm gonna give the tongue thing a shot
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thewayicit [2009-11-12 21:08:52 +0000 UTC]
This is quite frightening!!
I think the right side of the mouth needs to look more tortured. Maybe some metal on the top of gums? and blood oozing/ collecting near or around bottom teeth.
Nice work
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Krathalos In reply to thewayicit [2009-11-13 22:06:55 +0000 UTC]
Thanks
Yeah the right side is still totally unfinished ^^'
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thewayicit In reply to thewayicit [2009-11-12 21:10:08 +0000 UTC]
Forgot this in previous comment!
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thegentlemansoldier [2009-11-12 19:50:02 +0000 UTC]
First reaction. Sickened and horrified. I assume that's what you went for! Brilliant!
I think more metal on the sides, maybe through the cheeks and gums? Hell, if theres two places of the mouth I would absolutely, never, absolutely, nout-tois, ever want a drill through, it's those.
Try more blood on the metal and the skin around the mouth. Can't really think of more than that.
Dislodge some teeth, not neccessarilly remove them (though you could do that) but make it look like someones trying to wrench them out with a pair of pliars. Can't get much more painful than that!
Final note: I won't be going to a dentist for a while...
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Krathalos In reply to thegentlemansoldier [2009-11-13 22:10:02 +0000 UTC]
It was what I went for, thanks!
Yeah the gums, definitely. I wanted to make it look so that the viewer feels the pain. Because when I look at something like this being inflicted on the human body, I actually feel an intense "tingle" in that area, so by piercing the gums I thought I could get that effect through. Did I get it btw?
I've thought about dislodging the teeth but it's gonna be tough at this stage...but I think I know just how I'll be able to do it...
Thanks for the advice btw! Really appreciate it
P.S: I've had braces for 5 years! I can't wait to get rid of my dentist!
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wzrdofozfan [2009-11-12 18:48:12 +0000 UTC]
First reaction - Oh my god - in a good way.
One thing that kind of bugs me is that there isn't any definition of the tongue. It just looks like a mixture of colors.
You could add an chain to the other cheek and have them connected in the middle. I love the small stitches in the smile lines.
I don't think you need anymore blood. I think the lack of blood adds to it. Like the torturer knows what they are doing and trying to keep things clean and not messy.
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Krathalos In reply to wzrdofozfan [2009-11-13 22:12:04 +0000 UTC]
The professional part of the torturer pleases me. Great idea.
As for the tongue, you're absolutely right. But the thing is that it's quite difficult to make it look defined without making it look totally off. I've done some studies in my sketchbook, though, so I'll give it a shot.
I think one cheek is enough for pulling. Otherwise it'll look symmetrical, and that's something you do NOT want. Keep that in mind for your own artwork
Thanks for all the advice
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Karithina [2009-11-12 18:31:23 +0000 UTC]
One problem I have with this is how "watery' the tongue looks. It doesn't look very much like a solid object and more like a blood ocean with the hook floating in the middle of it. Looking at this, I'm not sure if that's actually your desired effect.
I love the work on the teeth and metal, although I think more blood splatters should be put on the right side as it looks too clean compared to the left.
Perhaps another piece of metal piercing the face in the lower right pulling a chunk of it down?
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Krathalos In reply to Karithina [2009-11-13 22:14:03 +0000 UTC]
It's not. I really need to define the tongue. It's really hard though, but I've done some studies in my sketchbook and should be ready to give it a try.
The right side isn't complete yet, so it will have more metal and blood.
Thanks
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maslina [2009-11-12 18:31:14 +0000 UTC]
woah!
maybe more blood on the skin outside will work. it seems to clean to me. more covering the metal would do it.
what about something hooking over and around the teeth to keep the aw open?
just an idea
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Krathalos In reply to maslina [2009-11-13 22:15:58 +0000 UTC]
Over and around huh? Hmmmm....interesting. Let's see...oh yes I wanted to do that originally but it is off the range of sight. I could try something, but I don't think it'll work too well like this.
Thanks for the advice tho
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NebulosaMentalis [2009-11-12 18:16:05 +0000 UTC]
The amount of metal parts looks good to me, I think if you want to give a harder feeling of torture increasing the size or putting more small and sharp elements would work. But adding more metal parts sure would make it look more painful.
Put blood splatters on every metal parts that cross the skin (example: on the hook and screws).
Hope that was useful ^^
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Krathalos In reply to NebulosaMentalis [2009-11-13 22:27:19 +0000 UTC]
Yeah more sharp elements would work. Oh btw, can you tell that there are two needles accross the amygdala connected by a thin string? I don't think it's quite so clear so maybe I should work that cuz it really should add to the pain.
Can you get back to me on that please?
Thanks
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NebulosaMentalis In reply to Krathalos [2009-11-13 22:31:06 +0000 UTC]
mmmh, not really, that part looks more like saliva reflecting light to me.
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Krathalos In reply to NebulosaMentalis [2009-11-14 01:00:34 +0000 UTC]
Then I'll work on it. Thanks
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pan-mroku [2009-11-12 18:13:22 +0000 UTC]
I think you could add some teeth deeper in the jaw. But even without them the painting is awesome.
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Krathalos In reply to pan-mroku [2009-11-13 22:25:29 +0000 UTC]
No more teeth. All of them are there, they're just in a line. I'm gonna fix that with a device.
thanks for the comment
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Wheatart [2009-11-12 16:41:32 +0000 UTC]
EEEEEEW! ew ewe ewewewew! Oh, dang that is nasty. Personally, I think you got enough stuff in there to scare people away from the dentist! Some molars in the back would be a good idea, though.
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Krathalos In reply to Wheatart [2009-11-13 22:21:00 +0000 UTC]
Muahahaha!
Ahem, anyways...
There ARE molars! I'm just a complete idiot who draws teeth in a horizontal line -.-'
What I'm gonna do to fix it, however, is create a device that pushes teeth to the front and make it a part of the torture. Whatcha think? That way the teeth WOULD be in a horizontal line.
P.S: Glad I made you "ew" hehe.
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Wheatart In reply to Krathalos [2009-11-14 04:07:37 +0000 UTC]
Push the teeth to the front? Oooooh, that's so nasty! Brrrrrrr!
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n1k4r0 [2009-11-12 16:37:10 +0000 UTC]
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strong image here
probably i'm wrong but i think that your first two questions have to do with style and vision and i think that style and vision are personal things so i won't tell you where to put what, instead i suggest to think about what really would disturb yourself and try to put that in your image.
about the third question i think you pulled all the needed muscles but seems to me that some teeth are missing, there should be teeth on the sides of the tongue and they could also add a little depth to the image.
good image until now
bye
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Krathalos In reply to n1k4r0 [2009-11-13 22:22:37 +0000 UTC]
No teeth are missing, they are simply in the wrong position. There should be teeth at the sides of the tongue, but they are in a line instead. I didn't create enough depth, so what I'm going to do instead is paint a device that pushes the teeth to the front. That way, there will be a reason for them to be all in a line.
Thanks for the advice btw
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silent33 [2009-11-12 15:38:06 +0000 UTC]
To be honest, now my mouth hurts.
You did an amazing job on the teeth! They look so realistic.
I just think you should bend the under teeth row a bit. At the moment it looks like they stand in a line. If you know what i mean
You should add a bit more blood on the Screws. I think if you get a Screw in your skin, that would bleed like hell
But the rest is really amazing
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Krathalos In reply to silent33 [2009-11-13 22:24:54 +0000 UTC]
HA! I'm glad it does, that's the point
Means I really got through to the viewer
anyways, it's true that they are in a line, I should have seen that when I started but I only noticed it a little later. I tried to cover it but no use. So what I'm gonna do is paint a device that pushes the teeth to the front and into a line. Whadaya think?
Yeah I'll work on the screws. I'm still gonna add more metal parts so myah.
Thanks for the advice btw, really appreciate it
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silent33 In reply to Krathalos [2009-11-14 02:12:46 +0000 UTC]
Really good job
I know that Happens often to me
Sounds good, i'm sure it will work
You're very welcome
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Krathalos In reply to JesCallie [2009-10-21 19:56:14 +0000 UTC]
Thanks
Check it when it's done (which should be sometime this or next week)
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