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For most people, the problems that people will have with a character is the lack of balance they might have.
Mary-Sues are the most popular characters that exemplify this.

Mary Sues are characters that have more good traits than flaws and therefore look perfect for the audience. That can include all sorta of aspects in the character 'life'.

1) You have over-powered Mary-sues who can defeat any and every opponent and therefore are respected and awed by everyone.

2) Realtionship-Sues who are so much of the woman that every man who meets her is obviously struck with love the minute they see her, even when the character has no real qualities that WOULD normally attract men. And these are also the ones who are able to take their pick of the guy and somehow always end up getting with the most sought-after man in the series.

3) You have the feminist-sues/tom-boy sues who are the perfect women in their being less "girly" only so they look better than the more feminine females in the series. And most of the time they don't even earn the title OF tom-boy... they're just called the tom-boy so they look like a good role-model for females.

There are plenty of them.

But what is it that makes these females a Mary-sue? Surely there is nothign WRONG with having love, or a good personality, or being the girl that people can look up to!
And there isn't.
But it DOES become a problem when the character has so much of it that they look perfect while the other females look horrible next to them.

The character MUST have balance. There is nothign redeeming about a character who was perfect since day one but never had to work on herself or had to learn more about herself in order to GET THERE.

And so, we talk about character development in one of the less thought of ways:
Giving the character some baddies.

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1) The Flaws
Nobody wants a goodie two-shoes.
It doesn't matter if the character is smart, beautiful, mature, kind, humble, thoughtful, etc. if she doesn't have something that makes people squirm none the less.
But you also can't just dump a few flaws that either don't make sense for the character, or actually make her look better.
Being self-sacrificial or over-taxing herself does not mean she is flaws significantly.
Especially if the character's history is of clinging or depending on other people for support.

Therefore, the best way that a person can give the character some flaws if to look back at the character's history, and find out what way her history would have built her up to be like.
Then after you've found that character's flaws, you need to make sure they are consistent in the characters action/thought process.

For example:
Lets say that you have a princess character.

What does she do now?
Does she run her own country?
Is she striving to be a warrior?
Maybe she doesn't want to be a princes at all?
Maybe she's more of a dictator?

What happened to her family? Were they killed off? Or did they die of old age?
-If they were killed off, then how would the experience have effected their daughter?
Would she not be angry towards the people who did it?
Maybe she would be angry at her parents for leaving her.
What if she actually blamed the people who were supposed to protect them?
It would also make her realize that people don't last as long:
Would that make her think she needs to hold on to people better?
Maybe it means she must keep the other people she cares about safe no matter what.
OR it'll have the opposite affect and make her not WANT to care about other people.

If her parents didn't die: How did they treat her when she was growing up?
Did they spoil her?
Maybe they ignored her?
Maybe they treated her harshly.
Maybe they didn't want her at all.
Maybe they were over protective of her?
Maybe they actually treated her just right. (People can grow up with flaws even without being traumatized by their PARENTS.)

Does she have siblings? How did THEY treat her?
Maybe her siblings bullied her?
Maybe they got her in trouble all the time?
Maybe they were treated better than her?
Maybe they loved her very well.
Maybe they clinged to her?

If she didn't go to school: Did she have any friends?
How did they treat her?
What happened to them?

All of those situations could actually give the character a reasonable flaw: even in normal, happier situations, people can develop some kind of trait even if it's born of rebelliousness.

You also need to make sure that she has several negative traits as well: having one trait can lead to having more traits, and it will help you when writing your character if you need to find a different way for your character to act in a situation. But make sure that the traits go together slightly: If your character spoiled and bratty, it would make sense for her to act jealously or selfishly: not dejectedly.

AND once you've found her traits you then need to figure out how it will affect her in the future.
Make sure that it will be consistent: even if she learns that the resulting behavior is offing, even if she learns to be better, that trait is still a part of her no matter what. She may be more conscious of it and maybe she'll try not to act on it, but it SHOULD still have some amount of sway on her thoughts and feelings. It SHOULD affect her in some way, even if it's body language.
Just make sure the traits are still there.

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2) The Skills/Powers
Nobody wants a character who can do EVERYTHING.
You character SHOULD have some sort of skill, and it's good if she does. But make sure that there are still some things that she can't do very well. being talented doesn't mean the character is a complete Picasso either: there should also be somebody who can do things better than she can.

For example:
If your character is a warrior.
If your character lives in a world where super powers are not normal at all: don't you DARE give your character control over the elements.
You character needs to fit in with the world's theme in some way.
!!!Keep to the laws of that worlds physics!!!

- Instead of magical powers, give your character a skill in weaponry.
But you ALSO need to make sure that if your character is skilled with a weapon: don't over do it either.
If your character is skilled with a sword she SHOULDN'T be able to pick up a bow and arrow and proficiently knock down 100 enemies within ten minutes if she has never used the weapon before.

ALSO make sure that your character has somebody that can beat her even in the area she's good at.
She should either have a rival (somebody with equal ability) or there should be somebody who is more of a master.

Also make sure that it makes sense how talented she is:
A sword fighter can only take on SO MANY other enemies: she should NOT be able to beat 10 people in one blow: at MOST she should be able to take on 4-5 people at once.
If she beats 5 people it should be over a length of time in the battle 1 down after a few minutes of swordplay, then on to the next one.

YOU ALSO need to make sure she can get beaten or wounded in battle.
There should NOT be a character who just went into battle without even a mark on her shoulder, and she should not beat everybody in every single battle: maybe for every 4 she wins there should be 1 she looses (Not in this order, becasue it turns into a pattern; switch up her winning/loosing streaks a bit)

NO MAGICAL OBJECTS THAT WILL GIVE HER SOME SORT OF SUPER POWER EITHER!!
--> Ex: in the Sonic universe there are only a few that actually are able to use the chaos emeralds. Your fan character shouldn't be able to use those powers on the same level as somebody like Shadow, even if they COULD use the emeralds.
Give them some combat moves but please don't overdo it.
There ALSO shouldn't be any secret weapons that give your fancharacter super powers on that same level either. NO SWORD OF ACORNS EQUIVALENT SHOULD BE IN YOUR FIC.
Maybe something on the scale of Amy's hammer is fine: but there shouldn't be another super robot like Tail's Tornado running around. It's stupid and it makes you looks like a dick.

- If her world DOES allow for super powers, make sure they are reasonable and the same rules should apply as normal:
She should have ONE or TWO real powers: but if your character has ice breath, AND super strength, AND power over metal, AND Chaos abilities, AND healing powers, AND the power to summon 20 different weapons, AND the ability to bring the dead back to life, AND super kicks, AND ninja powers, AND DBZ powers, AND transformation powers etc then you look like a crappy writer.

On that note: It's okay for you character to be able to cook, and draw, but don't add having an amazing singing voice, piano AND violin talent, AND great doctors skills, AND sculpting powers, AND make them a model on top of that. Let them be okay in a few activities but don't give them a plethora.
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This also includes warrior skills: if the character is good a PLANNING battles, she should be only the person who plans it: she shouldn't also be able to do karate AND fight with a sword, bow and arrow, and kunai.

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3) Relationships
You character should NOT be loved by everybody, and when people dislike her it SHOULD NEVER be due to jealousy.
Not everybody in the universe likes everyone else.
People have different opinions on things and simply personalities that are different. Nobody HAS to like anybody: and not liking somebody is too natural and normal an occurrence to be ignored in your fanfiction.
There SHOULD be people around your character that do not have much of an opinion of her.
There should be people who don't know your character and is not interested in knowing her.

For example:
If your character is in a modern school
Your character shouldn't be the most awed girl in school: and there should be no OTHER character like that either.
School isn't like that anymore.
There is no caste system.
There should be characters that are known in general by everybody, and they shouldn't be the only person known at that school.
There should be no 'prettiest girl in school' character: there should be a general amount of girls who can be equally pretty in some way.

When it comes to popularity, the character should have an average amount of friends then be known by a general amount of people: the same thing for everyone else.
There are no cliches: but there should be groups of friends who also have other groups of friends and each group should overlap with people:
In schools people are known from classes they will have with each other AND the activities that's each perosn participates in which should be a decent number.

And there is no such thing as nerds really in the school.
Smart people can be very popular. Popular people shouldn't really be dumb.
The class president of your fic-school should have decent grades but also should have some ties in other clubs and with other people.
Even band members can be 'cool'.

Your character shouldn't always be the nerd, nor should she be the prettiest, smartest girl at school either. Even if she has braces and is awkward, there should still be her best buddies as well as other people in the school setting that might interact with her positively, like with doing projects or being in clubs with her.

Having the whole school caste system is too cliche and immature. Just make her normal.

- There is also if your character isn't in school:
If she is working, then she should have some friends outside of work or in work, even if they're from her past
If she's in Sonic where characters are just running around doing whatever they want, she should probably have a group of friends somewhere: maybe in some town she stops by.

This doesn't really include villain characters, although it can if your character goes from hero to femme fatale.

The Sonic-based societies are numerous, so you can be flexible with your character.
Just make sure she isn't a cliches Princess Sally or Elise.
She can be a normal girl like Amy and Bunnie and still be interesting.

-ALSO make sure that your character can have some guy friends. It's normal for girls to have friends with guys and not letting it be a big deal. There can and should be several guys at this: like if it's a group of five there can both either OR 2 girls to 3 guys, or 3 girls to 2 guys.
Don't make gender an issue!

In the end, your character should be treated like any other person:
Some people like her, some hate her, and some just don't care.

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4) Love Life
Ugh. This is a big one for female characters, although it really shouldn't be.
NOT ALL FEMALE CHARACTERS HAVE TO HAVE A LOVE INTEREST
Romance is OKAY for a story only if it makes sense and if it fits and is developed with the story.
Just make sure the romance is just ONE theme and is balanced with others.
DON'T turn an action story into a soap opera.

But what really is a hindrance for female character is their relationship status! Your character should not be the only female to find love, and their love life shouldn't hurt other characters while you're at it.
Love triangles are so much of a cliche, and when your character is in the center, it makes your character look like the 'everybody loves her' girl. How about switching it up and maybe developing her relationship with other characters more naturally?

Falling in love or getting into a relationship or other hindrances to a characters relationship is harder than JUST "I don't know who to choose!"
How about things like their career might get in way, or they have arguments sometimes?

And although it's okay for things like jealousy in developing the relationship, don't make that the default! Not EVERY girl should like your female character's love interest! If they are going to get together, don't make it look like the other characters weren't as good as your female: make sure the reasoning they get into the relationship is believable.

You ALSO shouldn't rely too much on childhood friends = lover!
People go through MANY relationships before finding the one.
Also having your character having interests in others isn't such a bad thing as long as they don't turn into a slut. Keep it balanced.
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5) The Character
Things that I haven't already mentioned would be things like giving your character titles or categories they they do not deserve or haven't worked for!

For example:
Calling your character a tomboy.
Why are you calling her a tomboy?
Your female character shouldn't be a tomboy just becasue they have guy friends when she's younger. She shouldn't be a tomboy just becasue she's book-smart. She shouldn't be a tomboy just because she isn't TOO worried about appearance.
Just leave her as a character instead of trying to fix her up to look better.

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6)Appearance
NEVER make your character "The most BEAUTIFUL girl in the WORLD".
Your character can be pretty or even righteously beautiful.
But there SHOULD be people who are prettier than her.
And PLEASE don't go into a paragraph that talks about everything that makes her beautiful if you don't do the same for other characters.
And please stop with the 'she's so NATURALLY beautiful but she doesn't care about her looks' cliche.
It's okay for girls to wonder about their looks/it's bad when your character looks like she's so much of an angle that she doesn't need to work to look like the best.

I would suggest not even mentioning beauty in your fic to be honest if you're just talking about the character. It shouldn't be blatantly obvious.

ALSO make sure not to make everybody fall in love with her becasue she's pretty, nor make other girls uber jealous about her looks. It looks like tacky story writing when you do.
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7) Role
The whole "Everything happens to this character because she's the main lead" is bull.
Your LEAD character should never be the only one to get some focus or have things go her way: especially when it'll be detrimental to the other characters.

Your secondary cast should have problems of their own: and they should have some blessings come their way as well.
Even rival characters should be able to win sometimes: A rival means an equal!
Se shouldn't ALWAYS suffer becasue the lead character gets everything.

Also make sure your character's role is ONE role.
She shouldn't be the brains of the operation AND the hero: distribute roles out equally and make things fair for everyone.

No killing other girls so your main can get things easily.
Especially in shipping:
If the girls are fighting over a guy, the guy should actually have some amount of attachment to the other girl: they should be friends and if she were to die it should actually hurt the male love interest, or else there was no point in making that girl: she was just an obstacle and not a character, which is crappy writing.

Don't do it/
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I will probably add more to this passage, however, I hope that for thoseΒ Β who read, this guide will help you in writing out your character.
Although it is good to make a character as cool as possible, writers also have to make sure they don't over do it.
Make sure your character is balanced as possible!
And make sure that things or fair.
Else wise you might end up with a Mary Sue

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Comments: 70

That1Tomboyi [2019-11-18 19:37:59 +0000 UTC]

Do u have a PROBLEM with tomboys? I thought tomboys were girls who didn't care much for things that would interest other firls but are instead interested in more masculine things.

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MagaloupXD [2018-09-18 19:02:47 +0000 UTC]

Interesting!

I have a question that's more or less related to this (in fact I'm asking it because I wanna know if it's related), but anyways I'll ask it: "How about characters that are perfectly bad or pitiful? What are they called? If they also attract all of the attention and all the drama is always about them because of that, are they Mary-Sues?"


Thanks,

MXD

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Lilith-Crowe In reply to MagaloupXD [2020-01-23 21:44:18 +0000 UTC]

That would pretty much be an anti-Sue if they're impotent at everything.Β 

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MagaloupXD In reply to Lilith-Crowe [2020-01-23 22:36:40 +0000 UTC]

Oki thanks

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GabrielLoboDX [2017-05-06 00:28:17 +0000 UTC]

I started to understand tudo Isaura off a Mary Sue/Gary Stu, if I Discover onde ir kg characters being one, I prefer to fix muito characters anexo even "nerf" their powers to make them more ballanced. I'm trying to avoid these traps the neste as I can. I'll fix some of my characters soon. That's a good explanation as well.

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lucky-doll [2017-04-18 21:18:33 +0000 UTC]

None of my female characters have love interests. OR DO THEY?Β 

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ThatDumbKitty [2017-02-25 03:35:47 +0000 UTC]

Yes, Mary Sues are ANGLES

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ISS600 In reply to ThatDumbKitty [2019-01-22 17:00:49 +0000 UTC]

Angles? Like which ones? 90 degree, obtuse, acute?

Or did you mean Angels?

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mlpfan212 [2016-01-05 19:28:56 +0000 UTC]

being a princess does not make you a Mary sue

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LaDeary [2015-03-20 18:01:35 +0000 UTC]

Yes, so much yes! Thank you for this!

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Alptraum-Gheist [2014-06-20 22:46:31 +0000 UTC]

I feel weird now
cuz I am thinking of making a character and for some reason it's easier for me to make male characters...

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CherryPopSparkle [2014-06-18 18:10:23 +0000 UTC]

Amazing, I can't stand Mary Sues sho are sooooo perfect, awesome

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galateabellator [2014-06-05 00:19:20 +0000 UTC]

General guideline, and very helpful post for me. Thanks for writing this Β 

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CelticKawaii [2014-02-13 00:37:45 +0000 UTC]

Okay, I want to say a couple of things.
First, as for the 'goody-two shoes' Purity Sue, I think that (like you said) you can give her some kind of flaw, or what you can do is make her deal with a problem that really challenges her sparkly-white goodness, like a moral dilemma. Put her in a situation where she's facing a choice of 'lesser of the two evils', when her first instinct is to always, ALWAYS do the 100% good thing. To me, it's a great way to keep her the goody two-shoes without making her look unrealistic.

And as for the "tomboy sue" part, that really, REALLY bugs me; girl character doesn't like pretty dresses or doing her hair or wearing makeup, but of course she's still really pretty even though she's usually grubby. Oh, and she's guaranteed to wear pretty clothes AT SOME POINT, and be the most beautiful girl in the world while wearing them. Oh, and of course she's always showing up those shallow prissy girls who the male hero obviously can't relate to at all because ugh she's wearing pink! I'm fine with tomboy characters, just A) Don't tell me she's a tomboy or call her a tomboy - just have her act boyish and sporty and I'll get the picture; and B) Don't portray her as automatically "better" than a girly girl just because she isn't girly!

Also, I think it's fine if you have a character whose flaw is 'clumsiness' or 'short temper', but have her (or him) be those things at a time when it's really inconvenient to be those things! For instance, have her blow up at her boss and lose her job, or trip down the stairs while carrying a wedding cake and wearing an expensive outfit! See, Mary Sues never have to deal with those things.

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Tei-OceanEyes [2013-11-23 09:07:00 +0000 UTC]

you misspelled angel into angle in appeareance. it was EXTREMELY HELPFUL!!

anything on personality? what about being in a family with an original character?

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MasterPerryMartin [2013-07-11 12:53:03 +0000 UTC]

The REAL tip on how to not make a Mary-Sue: Don't bother making one at all. Someone is bound to call it a Mary Sue no matter WHAT you do and your good work would be wasted from the endless streams of Parody Sues and pisstakes choking the flow.

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KrissyBKillin In reply to MasterPerryMartin [2013-07-16 09:42:19 +0000 UTC]

Not really: it is SO possible to make a non-sue character: people have been doing it for years! Jane Eyre, Hester Prynne, Catherine Earnshaw, Anne Shirley: it's SOO possible to make a good character! The problem is not even that people CAN'T write them, it's the way the go about it!

Writing about a good female character is more about convincing Β the reader that she is good through the tone and being able to show her personality through the story, not by telling us how great she is. The problem is that some people try to focus on how good the character is through their writing, such as milking deeds of bravery and sacrifice while not giving her humanness, or the ability to make mistakes and the wrong choices.Β 

<__<Β 

So it's possible, the problem is that people haven't learned how.Β 

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MasterPerryMartin In reply to KrissyBKillin [2013-07-16 14:37:52 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, most people don't learn because they're making Parody-Sues, which I SWEAR take up 89% of the Mary-Sue catalogue.

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shanefisher99 [2013-06-10 17:33:40 +0000 UTC]

trust me this helped but why did this pop up when i put in "sally acorn" in literature?

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ErikaDaniel98 [2012-11-04 19:43:27 +0000 UTC]

Question: Can two characters who have been childhood friends be in a relationship BUT before that, they were together as friends for quite a long time, they HAD had feels for each other, but they went through many others before becoming an official couple?

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KrissyBKillin In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2013-07-16 09:43:45 +0000 UTC]

Yes of course! I actually LOVE that type of situation: after many years of trial and error, and learning and maturing by themselves they finally figure out that they were meant for each other! It simply OOZES romance.Β 

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DahliaFay [2012-10-21 05:01:53 +0000 UTC]

This is so beautifully written and helpful

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fyerrose [2012-04-07 15:42:03 +0000 UTC]

The world and myself greatly appreciate the time you spent to do this. It was much needed. Especially the love interest bit.

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CelticKawaii [2012-03-19 22:39:34 +0000 UTC]

Calling your character a tomboy.
Why are you calling her a tomboy?
Your female character shouldn't be a tomboy just becasue they have guy friends when she's younger. She shouldn't be a tomboy just becasue she's book-smart. She shouldn't be a tomboy just because she isn't TOO worried about appearance.
Just leave her as a character instead of trying to fix her up to look better.

You know, that is what really bugs me here. I agree, but it bothers me that for whatever reason, girls today think that being smart and having guy friends and not being obsessed with appearances makes you 'un-girly' and BETTER than other girls. I don't like romance stories, I take martial arts classes, I like action movies and rock music. But so what? Ugh, okay, done ranting.

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shade-the-cat In reply to CelticKawaii [2013-05-05 05:29:46 +0000 UTC]

I call myself a tomboy cause I lime sonic, boy video games,sports, boy stuff, minecraft

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JoanMystique In reply to CelticKawaii [2012-11-14 17:37:08 +0000 UTC]

Actually, I don't think it is as bad as you think.

Everyone wants to be famous; all those pageviews and likes, and stalk-I mean watchers is what most people of the sonic fandom strive for here. From the experiences we have on deviantart, you and I both know this is the goal of 90% of sonic fans want when they come on here to make it big.

One problem. 90% of that 90% don't have that much of an imagination. How they got the idea to make it big as "storytellers" are all from these fanfictions on this site (or fanfiction.net etc). So most people tend to revolve around the "stereotypes": pretty girl, nerd, emo, THE ALL MIGHTY AND POWERFUL HERO, hot boy and such.

You know why they do this? "These are the cool characters. They can't have flaws, people won't like them then." I wish they would understand. The reason we fall in love with characters, and the reason they seem so real...

Is because of the flaws.

Its because they're not perfect.

Its because WE'RE not perfect.

We as humans don't tend to relate to people because we have similar perks, but because we share similar flaws and problems. We feel sympathy, and the subtle urge to help each other stick through it.

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Erufufukuro In reply to CelticKawaii [2012-10-03 23:14:06 +0000 UTC]

i'm glad that it doesn't just bother me, being a girl girl is loving make-up and looking after your looks, but just because i don't like make-up and that shit doesn't make me a tomboy, no where in the world does it say that

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Jane-the-Unknowing [2012-03-04 07:11:08 +0000 UTC]

Wow! This is really detaled! Great work hun~!

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TheRedon02 [2011-11-23 21:04:16 +0000 UTC]

[link] Real mary sue

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LeoAegia [2011-11-19 09:03:16 +0000 UTC]

What about characters who are jack-of-all-trades? I would presume that there is nothing wrong with a character who can do a large variety of things as long as:
A) They do not end up overshadowing characters with a specific specialization in a particular area (A character who is only proficient in martial arts should not be able to outdo a character who is a martial arts master)
B) Have a tendency to make mistakes that could have a negative (minor or otherwise) impact on the situation at hand.

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LetaDarnell [2011-11-09 19:50:35 +0000 UTC]

I disagree with some of these. A goodie-two shoes can make a good character, and that in and of itself is a flaw. Plus there are nerds in school; I was one and so many of my friends.

A character should be able to take on ten people at a time if that's what's considered normal in canon. Characters can be beautiful if the universe allows for it.

I'm not saying this isn't well-intended, but it pushes people away from tropes that can easily be harmless.

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KrissyBKillin In reply to LetaDarnell [2011-11-09 22:40:14 +0000 UTC]

? The goodie two shoes isn't so much a problem when done right: you are correct.
But of course, it's less of a definition of a goodie two shoes than I think just a character without enough balance XD
- Yes: it's it IS normal in the canon <__<
- Who ever said they can't be beautiful? the problem arises when it becomes more of the focus than the actual character.

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LetaDarnell In reply to KrissyBKillin [2011-11-09 23:22:18 +0000 UTC]

It is merely the focus is too much on the aspects at all, rather than them being all there is to the character and trying to overshadow even the rest of the story.

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Hakuri21 [2011-10-25 08:20:32 +0000 UTC]

wow this is great info, I've been trying to make to build my oc and i dont want my character to be a mary sue! thanks!! XD

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Silent-Hill-Daughter [2011-10-11 01:52:59 +0000 UTC]

OH DEAR GOD THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS

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Sephirath21000 [2011-09-30 02:43:29 +0000 UTC]

How about this:
A thief being in truth a wayward soul trying to bring back her foster mother. Born as the daughter of two lodge-owners, the girl never had the chance to know her parents well as they both died in a snow storm two months after she was born. The girl was discovered by a monk from the local monastery and taken in as one of the orphans where she learned several basic fighting stances along with getting to know another orphan who was three-years younger than her. Several months after the girls' 4th birthday: their monastery was attacked by wayward elemental aspects from a distant galaxy which only lasted for several minutes but the damage was too severe, the girl and her friend ended up separated from the others and left in the ruins of the southeastern wing for 5 days until they were found. The person that found them was the spiritual ruler of their world, a Dark Angel that fled from the devastation of her people near the core of the universe itself and settled on this world because it reminded her of her home planet. This woman was gentle and kind and caring, the Dark Angel brought the two orphans to her home, a lake-based country where her vessel is docked at that hides this world from the rest of the universe by manipulating a time-space field around the planet to shift it 12 years into either the past or the future while still having it orbit around their sun. The orphans were adopted by the Dark Angel and taught about the skills and culture that the Dark Angels lived by, the girl in particular picking up on her mothers habits of babying those younger than herself lovingly. However, tragedy struck the girl again in her 12th year: where the Dark Angel, for the sake of a newborn of her first adopted child, imparted her whole life-force so the child would live. The result of the sacrifice came with consequence as it made everyone else (besides her daughter the girl) that knew about her... forget everything that had to do with her. The girl was an orphan again, and her little brother that she knew ever since they were in the monastery 9 years ago; barely recognized her at all when they both met afterwards, bringing despair to her as the last vestiges of her ever-loving family evaporated away. Still holding true to the virtues that her mother upheld, along with the traditions of the Dark Angels, the girl soon discovered a tale that spoke of Dark Angels being able to be brought back from their Self-Sacrifice imbued sleep by using natural light redirected through crystalline objects. Deciding to hide her status as the adopted daughter of a Dark Angel from the world (in order to protect it from the threats of the Dark Angels greatest enemies), the thief went about to steal jewels that would be used to redirect the light of the sun to the body of her hibernating mother, a task which would take 6 years to accomplish. Hiding the fact of this even from the government when she signed on to become an agent (underneath the threat of being arrested and court-martialed for stealing jewelry on another world because there is no concept of "Dollars" or "Monetary Value" on her world) due to that world being underneath the secret control of an ally to the Dark Angels' enemies. Preferring to keep it a secret from everyone in order to protect what little shread of hope and desire is left on her world from vanishing.

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savegalkissy [2011-09-19 02:20:46 +0000 UTC]

My characters are princesses, and they have magic powers even if they grew up in the human world. What's wrong with having elemental powers? It it because most people base their characters appearance on the element? My OC Emily has SOME control over the elements of fire, water, air, and earth. in that order, she is best at controlling fire, and water is somewhat good, air isn't really controlling the air, it's more like her ability to fly. She has gold(ish?) or Yellow hair, and at certain times, red or gold eyed, like extreme anger when red, and gold is when she's trying to tap into her magic. for flaws and traits: She's okay with grades, but they could better. Her bedroom is usually a mess, and she hates cleaning. she acts silly alot, and when she's not acting silly, she's either in a bad mood, or is trying to be serious. She's related to the goddess of beauty, Aphrodite, but, of course Aphrodite is a hundred times more beautiful then she is. She's rather plain, and usually wears comfortable clothing. She can get upset over stupid things, like her friends ignoring her, or her boyfriend(? not really sure yet) not noticing when she tries to make herself pretty for him. In boys, most guys tend to ignore her, except for certain people, like perverts and pedophile villians like Edgar, who likes young woman, is a master of seduction, and wants Emily to be his bride. Okay, he's the only guy after her. her main group of friends are Ember, Ellexa, Johny (the boyfriend), Eddie, and Tom
( I gave them simple names so could remember them). She happens to fight alot with Eddie because they're are friendly rivals. I'm still working on her bio, as with the rest

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ErikaNegi In reply to savegalkissy [2012-03-05 10:26:51 +0000 UTC]

I think there's a little no-no on controlling elements because

1) sometimes. sometimes some people go too far and are like: "I control water, fire, earth, lightening, and wind! yaaaaaaaaaaay!"

2) i dunno, lots of people use them, so it could get cliche? *shrug*

3) it's unfair to the other characters (unless elemental powers are common) because their power could be less convenient or useful in most situations: "good thing I control wind! air is pretty much everywhere! yaaaaaaaaaaaay!"

I'm just guessing the reason

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savegalkissy In reply to ErikaNegi [2012-03-05 11:54:21 +0000 UTC]

hm..... most of the time, depending on who they are related to, my OCs only have a few powers, and aren't very good with controlling or using them. And besides, I've stopped with the "elements" and started trying to make me own, um.... magic world, I guess.

I've stopped with using the earth elements, as I call them. Now, I focus on basic traits that decide what type of magic a person can use and learn in m OC-verse

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ErikaNegi In reply to savegalkissy [2012-03-07 10:18:36 +0000 UTC]

:3 That.
sounds ultra-cool

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savegalkissy In reply to ErikaNegi [2012-03-07 12:39:44 +0000 UTC]

thanks ^_^

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CheezieSpaz [2011-09-19 02:12:18 +0000 UTC]

you forgot that there are some mary sues that have /everything/ wrong with them lol. they try so hard not to be the over powered mary sues but they use their "i cant do anything and everything horrible goes wrong in my life" to get attention XD

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KrissyBKillin In reply to CheezieSpaz [2011-10-11 14:39:13 +0000 UTC]

Truuee

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Zyea [2011-09-19 01:51:00 +0000 UTC]

I wish more people knew this <3
I don't really need it, but it's great to know how helpful this could be to others. I've been re-editing a book I'm publishing, so some VERY minor tweaks might be in order (although, I can't really change the childhood friends thing. They DO date other people, at least...)

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JUST1C3-PR3V41LS [2011-09-18 21:31:51 +0000 UTC]

Wow, thank you very much!
Now I know why everyone hates my fan character Sami!
I need to change her a bit...
So now she won't be a mary-sue!
Thank you very much!

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Sugary-Cakes [2011-09-18 19:01:57 +0000 UTC]

well,can you teall if this is a mary-sue?:
Sonia Marie the hedgehog was born into royalty by her mom,Queen Aleena[becasue I thought Sonic should have a sister] but abandoned into a jewel theif's life and was trained to steal jewels and other items to her use,she met up with shadow at the age of 5 and grew a crush on him as she got older and somewhat jelosh of sora,but is friends to an extent,she also has levetating powers,super speed-she's faster than amy but slower than sonic-and had the ablity to control lightning and can summon any time.She's "one of the guys" and is fond of getting her hands dirty but knows when enough is enough,she's also the leader of her team,team element and is like an older sister to tailsko[I'm starting to like tailia better],should I go on? And do you think she's a mary-sue or just needs a little work?

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KrissyBKillin In reply to Sugary-Cakes [2011-09-18 23:43:40 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm (Lol! You recreated Sonia from Sonic underground??)
And Meh~~ I think she might be okay except for the powers thing XD
And it might be okay with her being the group leader.. but USUALLY leaders should stick to the sideline (Not be one of the main fighters) if they DO have the position.

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Sugary-Cakes In reply to KrissyBKillin [2011-10-10 14:57:50 +0000 UTC]

so which power should I get rid of[but not the super speed!!!I still want to keep that]

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Sugary-Cakes In reply to Sugary-Cakes [2011-09-18 19:04:31 +0000 UTC]

ps:
she's really clusmy and hates hieght and water but will swim

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WaywardPlatypus [2011-09-18 10:54:38 +0000 UTC]

I've seen the list, and compared it to my friend:

She is kind and sweet to everyone who is not named Jenny or Dan (Her other OCs who exist to be tortured).

She is not a princess, but let's just have 'Trainer who spams Mewlegendaries (Legendaries with Base Stats equal in 100)', and call it a day.

Although her origins in her birth differ, (Raised by Pokemon, Raised by Ash etc), she can perform abilities illegal, and/or exclusive to another universe in question. In worlds she writes herself in where superpowers are allowed, she has every superpower. She claims this with the lazily designed Eon-Eye, her Green Lanturn Ring that's on the top of her boobs.

Everyone she likes loves her immediatly. One story involved her being born in a flower, having a Elite 4 Member, Will, (You know, in the manga, he happily mind-raped a child) adores the baby at first sight.

Do you want me to go on?

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