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KrzysztofMarczak In reply to AmorinaAshton [2010-01-21 17:09:20 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for very interesting comment. I can't imagine the ocean because I created this as beautiful fractal and only this is in my mind
You asked about software. I developed my own program in C++. I'm planing to release this program for free but it is still early alfa version and works only on Linux.

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AmorinaAshton In reply to KrzysztofMarczak [2010-01-23 03:33:00 +0000 UTC]

im not sure im understanding your first sentence,....but fractals can be seen everywhere in the real world too, even in the ocean, and the beauty of all fractals for me is that everyone sees something different in them and that even just shapes can sometimes conjure up an overall scene

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silencefreedom In reply to AmorinaAshton [2010-01-31 19:03:24 +0000 UTC]

This is the tweak from the original 3d mandelbrot [link] . To artists in general, they imagine most of their artwork before calculate (or not) while coders don't. Coders use math to show the works, use patient to do (well a lot of these renders absolute take at least 5 h or more.

Also this is the demonstrate of the results that he used to modify his scripts.

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AmorinaAshton In reply to silencefreedom [2010-01-31 19:44:21 +0000 UTC]

I understand , thanks for your imput...what i still dont understand is why the 2 things have to be seperated And even if maths was used, one can still see a scene or object in the renders and its still art or not? even if it was calculated.
I just dont get when i say i can see a beautiful fractal scene conjuring up an ocean in my mind why the answer was "I can't imagine the ocean because I created this as beautiful fractal and only this is in my mind" Of course its a beautiful fractal i didnt contradict that lol, in fact i thought it was so beautiful that i took the time to tell what i see... everyone of course sees something different but im still confused as to the wording of his answer lol ... Anyway forget it, its probably just a language misunderstanding ... and no matter how or why it was created i still see this beautiful ocean scene (upside down ) with waves, rocks and a ships mast etc Maybe i have too much imagination .. Lol it could also have been some strange satallite thing in the atmosphere.

btw arnt all fractals calculated with maths, through the variables, even if you do end up with a flowery shape in the end? Isnt it the imagination of what you see in the final image that makes it art?

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silencefreedom In reply to AmorinaAshton [2010-01-31 21:37:25 +0000 UTC]

Usually things show differently after rendering. You can never get the right results. People do real time calculations, not really randomness or the program calculated by itself.

When Krzysztof said "I can't imagine the ocean because I created this as beautiful fractal and only this is in my mind" does meaning there, no misunderstood in language. "I can't imagine the ocean" like I said, the tweak shown fabulous results out of the original mandelbrot 3d, different people have different opinions, but to the creator of it, the art shows his work. Coders used to proud of their own stuff, of the beauty to work with codes and hardworking, not truly the beauty of what it may become.

"I created this as beautiful fractal and only this is in my mind"
the beauty of fresh artwork is the values that created by yourself. Even if it took long time to render, I'm sure he enjoyed and having a lot of fun.

You are right, I used to name stuff based on the shapes n colors for the final renders. I'm kind of dummy b/c not work with fancy tools like UF n Apo for a while ...lol so there is the limitaion of imagine!!

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AmorinaAshton In reply to silencefreedom [2010-02-01 03:41:20 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for answering

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silencefreedom In reply to AmorinaAshton [2010-02-01 03:59:00 +0000 UTC]

it's too long eh!

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AmorinaAshton In reply to silencefreedom [2010-02-01 21:13:42 +0000 UTC]

yes!

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