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Description Murdoc reads what I can only assume is a self-help book for the just-turned-40 while Noodle naps on his chest. <3


props: Gorillaz © Jamie Hewlett & Co.
materials: ink, paper, PS7
Do not reproduce without my explicit permission.
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Comments: 578

ProfZamn In reply to ??? [2010-03-04 13:17:54 +0000 UTC]

I find it rather hypocritical that U should say that, especially when U got fiction showing Murdoc & 2D as well as 2D & Noodle having a relationship alongside this pic in Ur gallery ^o)

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LunaTemari In reply to ProfZamn [2010-03-08 12:13:00 +0000 UTC]

*time

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ProfZamn In reply to LunaTemari [2010-03-08 13:10:56 +0000 UTC]

Well maybe I am 13, what difference does it make to the message I'm trying to get across ?
Who are you to tell me what language I should or should not use ?
Language is a means of communication, if I get myself understood, who cares what I may or may not sound like ? I don't.

And yes, I am aware that Noodle tends 2 wear a lot of shorts & tees.
It's just the way he got his hand on her leg & stuff.

I believe pictures, just like language, are a means of communicating.
If I see something in a picture, then that's what it communicates.
It's the designer/artist's job to compose the picture so it communicates the intended message.
If it doesn't, it's the designer's problem, not the reader's.
If you don't get an ad, who's to blame, you or the designer who came up with it ?

But that's just my own way of looking at things.
This website is free for everyone to use.
I believe I can help artists by giving feedbacks.
It's a minor contribution, but I like to think it makes a small difference sometimes.
Now I know lily-fox got more experience than me, I'm not arguing that, but does that mean she knows it all ? I don't think so.
I wrote what I think of the picture, if she got a problem with what I wrote I'm not concerned, I'm just going from 1 picture to another suggesting where I think there might be room for improvement.

I think being an artist is a process of perpetual learning. Great artists learn every day, even after doing what seems like the same job for decades. You don't just struggle and then rest once you made it to the top, you need to stay in touch with the world around you, stay updated. You may have awesome skills I don't even come close to, bit if you can't take friendly criticism it means in a way you must not be OK with your work, and I don't think that makes you a good artist.
No offense meant.

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LunaTemari In reply to ProfZamn [2010-03-08 14:21:52 +0000 UTC]

oh thank god you got rid off the chat speak
atleast now people will TRY to understand you

about that hand, I think its allright, not every touch is sexual as you may think(?)
when I first saw this picture it didnt even cross my mind that it would be
thus what I meant with if see something else than its you opinion even if the artist did mean it that way she's free to upload it, I've seen worse things on here

about giving feedback, dont give it unless asked to
we have this option on DA if the artist wants to accept critism, if she did not ask for it, you should know better.

I reply'd to your comment becouse it seems youre making a realy big problem of it while most people here dont see in this picture what you see
and yes great artist learn everyday but you dont learn anything from people who complain about something so small and useless, I wouldnt take their critism either, have a nice day.

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ProfZamn In reply to LunaTemari [2010-03-08 15:16:54 +0000 UTC]

I use chat language here & there when I feel it's appropriate.
And "off" takes only 1 "f" in this context, by the by.
Same goes to "allright", one "l".

I understand the difference between "daddy complex" and sexual contact and in my opinion this picture shows more than daddy complex, that's all.
I never said she wasn't free to upload it or that it was bad; again, I like the way it looks.
If you think I'm complaining you got the wrong idea; I'm merely pointing something out.

I'm here to express my opinion and receive feedbacks.
If you don't like it, just ignore it, but I don't see the point of sharing your Art if you'll only accept positive response, because it won't help you to become a better artist.

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LunaTemari In reply to ProfZamn [2010-03-08 15:34:30 +0000 UTC]

if youre here to express your opinion, youre in the wrong place, and if you do give your opinion you know you can expect comments of people that dont agree with you, and you didnt actualy read a word I said now did you? go back to my other post and you will see I did not say "only accept positive response" I said that I think accepting critism from people who only complain about something so small as a hand on a tight is useless and you dont learn from that
in the end you never realy helped at all, you only want your opinion to be heard.. wich sadly isnt working right now.

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Alexsascha369 In reply to LunaTemari [2010-03-08 23:06:01 +0000 UTC]

LOL wait a second...isn't the comment section's purpose to let other people express their opinions? Eh yes. SO I don't see what's wrong if someone gives his opinion on this artwork. If you can't accept people's opinions then you shouldn't be posting artworks on this website.

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ProfZamn In reply to LunaTemari [2010-03-08 18:05:05 +0000 UTC]

That's OK 'cause you don't seem to have read my coms either.
Again, I was pointing out, but in no case complaining.
Like you said, "go back to my other posts".

As for the "something so small as a hand" part, I like to think details are important.
And again, if they weren't, why spent so much time actually answering my coms ?

My opinion's getting lots of attention right now actually, so I'm quite happy about that.
And I don't comment to be heard, but to help other people when I get an opportunity.



And occasionally just for fun, when I encounter stubbornness.

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LunaTemari In reply to ProfZamn [2010-03-08 20:39:18 +0000 UTC]

I've read youre comments very well and they all say the same thing
big issue about just a hand on a cartoon characters leg.. its so sad..
details dont matter to you at all you just complain about it giving you the wrong message..

you finally get the attention you mom cant give you, I bet it feels great to finally have someone notice you yea.. thus why you sound more and more like a lonely kid with no life other than on the internet
you said earlier about great artist that should learn from your "critism" maybe its getting time you start to learn to accept critism from other.. you seem to have an complex with it..
and I'll repeat myself again, youre not helping here, youre only telling us what your perverted mind is thinking off.. thats not critism, thats telling the artist you dont like her picture just becouse "you think of it as.."

I'm done here.. its no use talking to a "stubborn" kid that seeks attention and only wants other to agree with his lame comment that he claims is "critism"

go back to play your pokemon games.

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ProfZamn In reply to LunaTemari [2010-03-08 21:24:42 +0000 UTC]

Wow, getting personal there !
So is that it then, you've ran out of arguments ?

I'm glad in a way, you've been merely repeting the same thing in your 3 last replies, I was getting a bit bored of it.

If something offends you it means YOU have a problem with it and maybe trying to understand why you do would be more helpful in the long run than just blocking it out, because isolating oneself does not solve anything.

I'm writing that for whomever might read this reply, I've figured you didn't pay much attention to the message I'm trying to get across anyway.

And Pokemon are awesome :-D !

Xcept when U're a square ... sorry :-S

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LunaTemari In reply to ProfZamn [2010-03-08 22:42:07 +0000 UTC]

.. I dont think you quite understand?
I have been repeating myself becouse you fail to understand me as an adult.. so yea I'm giving up on even trying to talk to you.. I'm not offended at all I simple grew tired of talking to a child..
and that "message"you are trying to get across is your own perverted opinion.. wich is obviously not "heard" or "understood" by anyone here..
yes, like I said go back playing pokemon, maybe those pixel monsters will understand your "message"

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ProfZamn In reply to LunaTemari [2010-03-09 01:22:07 +0000 UTC]

It's time you make up your mind, I thought you were done ?

I don't care if you don't get my message, other people will, I write it for them in the 1st place.
There's squares everywhere, but I rather focus on the people who are worth my time.

Thanks for bringing up perversion. Did you have a look at the other pictures in the gallery involving Gorillaz members, aka 2D & Murdoc ? I recommend you do. Then you might understand that preversion is, indeed, in the artist's mind (no disrespect meant, and not like it's a bad thing) and not mind.
I mean ... you might. You seem pretty thick thou so maybe you won't.

As for calling me a child, that's cool with me. I am in a way.
In any case if I had to chose between staying a child for the rest of my days & being as stubborn and boring as you are, my choice is pretty clear.

... and by that I meant "I rather stay a child", in case you didn't figure it out.
You never know.

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LunaTemari In reply to ProfZamn [2010-03-09 01:34:44 +0000 UTC]

I am done with you but it seems you dont quite understand what that means..

and if I wasnt worth your time, you wouldnt have reply'd to what I said in the first place.

please, stay a child forever, and come back when you're 40 and still playing pokeymanz in your mothers basement.. it will be a pleasure to laugh at your face.

ciao.

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ProfZamn In reply to LunaTemari [2010-03-09 10:18:04 +0000 UTC]

40 ?
Sounds like a long time.
Will you be dead by then ?

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LunaTemari In reply to ProfZamn [2010-03-08 12:12:48 +0000 UTC]

next tiome you bring something up please use normal language..
you sound like a fat 13 year old that spends to much days behind a computer..

besides if you are such big fan of Gorillaz you should know that Noodle sometimes shows up in clothes like this..
if you think something else when you see pictures like this its your own problem not that of the artist.

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lily-fox In reply to ProfZamn [2010-03-04 19:26:19 +0000 UTC]

Fiction? Where is there fiction in my gallery? I think you need to look up "hypocritical" in the dictionary, stranger.

The bottom line is, if you don't like something, just ignore it. I'm not changing my work because some joe's got an issue with the amount of leg shown. Take a look around DA if you really want to get offended, and leave me the heck alone.

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ProfZamn In reply to lily-fox [2010-03-04 22:01:38 +0000 UTC]

I thought people created accounts on this website to receive positive criticism.
It's what I'm here for.
Now I'm merely saying that I admire Ur stile, no doubt about this, but the meaning or this pic could be misinterpreted.
As for fiction I guess I meant to say pictures. Any clearer now ?

I still don't see Y U should get so offended.
Would U have prefered the usual "ZOMG AWESOME PIC <3 <3 <3 !!!" & that's it ?
Everybody likes a compliment, don't get me wrong, I do too of course.
But I thought advices were more valuable.

Now I'm kina new 2 DA so if I'm wrong correct me.

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lily-fox In reply to ProfZamn [2010-03-05 01:30:36 +0000 UTC]

Kid, that wasn't helpful criticism, that was you saying you think she's not covered enough. Which is your opinion. If you see something in this picture that I don't, that's not my issue.

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ProfZamn In reply to lily-fox [2010-03-05 10:35:15 +0000 UTC]

Really ?
Y would U spend so much of Ur time answering my messages then ?
Would it be that important having the last word if, indeed, that wasn't your issue ?

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Nocterayne [2010-03-03 07:55:18 +0000 UTC]

I remember when I saw this, I was like score. Jamie Hewlett gave me some delicious Murdoc and Noodle business. BUT THEN IT WAS FANMADE AND SO I WORSHIP YOU, AND WILL FOLLOW YOU FOREVER

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Ryukloveappels [2010-02-24 18:07:39 +0000 UTC]

That's adorable!

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This-Quiet-Storm In reply to ??? [2010-02-24 08:08:26 +0000 UTC]

I wuv it. <3

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AsrielDelway In reply to ??? [2010-02-17 17:16:21 +0000 UTC]

This is the cutest thing ever.

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amberwhite100 In reply to ??? [2010-02-17 13:33:52 +0000 UTC]

So cute!!!!!

(Murdoc could be reading porn too, knowing him)

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Toxic-Corrupt [2010-02-15 20:12:21 +0000 UTC]

Nawharhar, I have Noodle's outfit, minus the socks.

Epic. I lay on the couch with my dog in that all the time.

--

Snarf, snarf.

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Satine-dog In reply to ??? [2010-02-07 17:13:35 +0000 UTC]

ohhh *_*

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Satine-dog In reply to ??? [2010-02-07 17:13:27 +0000 UTC]

ohhh *_*

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Quintessence-Study [2010-02-06 05:44:22 +0000 UTC]

i like!!!

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Marla-chan In reply to ??? [2010-01-29 04:33:03 +0000 UTC]

its sort of related to the picture but not completely. its just an observation ive had. ive noticed that a lot of times, the ppl who look hard core and a bit frightening, are some of the sweetest, most intelligent, most pat/maternal ppl you may ever meet.

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ketsuchan In reply to ??? [2010-01-14 07:57:20 +0000 UTC]

Cute! I love it.

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Sumikhi In reply to ??? [2010-01-13 05:06:24 +0000 UTC]

Simply incredibly amazing. The style is very much like Jamie Hewlett's, but more refined. Muds looks really good looking here!

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aiilaa14 In reply to ??? [2010-01-11 19:28:32 +0000 UTC]

sweet
hmmm.. looks comfy xD

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AnneMoody [2010-01-09 12:03:00 +0000 UTC]

I love all of your Gorillaz art <3

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babyshoo666 [2010-01-03 04:06:51 +0000 UTC]

murdoc would SO never do this.....way too cutsey. shouldnt he be out partying wildly with satan?

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lily-fox In reply to babyshoo666 [2010-01-03 05:41:31 +0000 UTC]

I don't like drawing dirty old fucks banging prozzies and sacrificing black pullets. I like drawing people chilling out napping.

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babyshoo666 In reply to lily-fox [2010-01-13 01:14:33 +0000 UTC]

you don't? hhmmm......ok. as long as you acknowledge that this isn't like him. which is kind of obvious.

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racherose [2009-12-30 21:56:42 +0000 UTC]

at first i though that you were indicating that
this was a murdoc x noodle picture, because if
so that would be nasty. murdoc is like forty
and noodle is 11 o.O

but, at least i think, this seems to be like a
father/daughter sort, so if that's the case
very cute^^

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lily-fox In reply to racherose [2009-12-30 22:13:54 +0000 UTC]

By now Noodle is like 23 or something. I didn't have an agenda with this -- people can decide what they like about it. I'd lean to the father/daughter side of things, just because Noodle's got better sense than to mess around with an ignorant slut like Murdoc.

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ProfZamn In reply to lily-fox [2010-03-04 22:02:42 +0000 UTC]

She's just turned 18, actually ...

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racherose In reply to lily-fox [2009-12-30 22:17:19 +0000 UTC]

haha. my mind is still stuck in 1997 XD
well, i'm glad. it would be creepy to
see pedophile pictures of the gorillaz.

sorry for being so bitchy x.x

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lily-fox In reply to racherose [2009-12-31 00:56:40 +0000 UTC]

You weren't at all bitchy! I get a LOT of bitchiness over this picture. Yours was a nice comment.

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racherose In reply to lily-fox [2009-12-31 03:57:00 +0000 UTC]

haha, good XD and i'm sorry to hear that,
this is a cute picture. what exactly to they
say that's bitchy? what i just said but ruder?

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lily-fox In reply to racherose [2009-12-31 08:00:05 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I get a lot of "YOU'RE SICK, WHY WOULD U DRAW THAT" and brainless stuff like that. But hey, Jamie Hewlett draws some strange crap that I'm sure gets him grief. ;D

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racherose In reply to lily-fox [2010-01-01 19:31:22 +0000 UTC]

oh well. there will be inmuture people
out there. and yes he does draw a lot of
strange crap XD

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ChickChicky In reply to ??? [2009-12-09 10:51:02 +0000 UTC]

omagosh this is so friken cute X3

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666zarike In reply to ??? [2009-12-06 14:18:31 +0000 UTC]

Just to CUTE!

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caligirl350 In reply to ??? [2009-12-04 03:26:26 +0000 UTC]

my favorite gorillaz picture, ever.
this is soo sweet, it shows a deeper side of muds.
i've only drawn him once.. any suggestions?
you seem like a pro at this! (:

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shadowjaceuchiha In reply to ??? [2009-11-25 00:45:02 +0000 UTC]

is noodle a girl? i mean ive love the gorillaz for years now and i could never tell nor could i find it anywhere

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lilbluediamond In reply to shadowjaceuchiha [2009-11-25 17:01:18 +0000 UTC]

yes, she's a girl
when I first found the band I couldn't tell either, so I googled it ^_^

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shadowjaceuchiha In reply to lilbluediamond [2009-11-26 04:58:05 +0000 UTC]

lol oooook thank you that clears up sooo much i didn't really think they had a girl in there tho but hey gotta have a little variety XDDD

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