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Published: 2019-05-22 15:35:37 +0000 UTC; Views: 1417; Favourites: 18; Downloads: 2
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Edited (cause seems to be needed ): Jesus wasn't an intellectual, he said it, like he meant it! He was a carpenter guys!!!
Theological speculations he wasn't able to make in no way, he didn't knew anything about sophism, scholastics, catechism, casuistics and whatever they've been invented to say exacly the oppsite of what he has said!
Edited: Mai 25. 2019
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“Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”
–Matthew 24:34 (KJV)
Damn, SOON! "THIS generation", what you need more?
Who Will See the Kingdom Come?
Supporting the conclusions of the Olivet Discourse, there are several other places in the gospels in which Jesus explicitly says that some of his contemporaries will not die before they see the coming of the kingdom of God:
“And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.”
–Mark 9:1 (KJV)
“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.”
–Matthew 16:28 (KJV)
The common-sense reading of this phrase would be that the events Jesus predicted would occur within the lifetime of his listeners, within the current generation – twenty or thirty years most likely, sixty or seventy at the most. Even with the more generous estimate, of course, any possibility of prophetic fulfillment has long lapsed by now. (The Greek word translated as “generation” is genea, which means the same as it does in English; genea was, for example, what there was fourteen of between Abraham and David, according to Matthew 1:17.) There is no reason whatsoever to conclude that this word means anything other than what it says, except for a desire to preserve the Bible from errancy.
As before, it is not only critics of Christianity who have recognized this problem. C.S. Lewis, for example, in his essay “The World’s Last Night “, called this verse “the most embarrassing verse in the Bible” and an “exhibition of error”. In the essay, Lewis suggested that the explanation for this incorrect prediction is that Jesus, though he was an incarnate deity, was also a human being and therefore shared in human fallibility, and could be wrong on occasion.
www.patheos.com/blogs/daylight…
To keep this article brief, I will describe the falsifying evidence without giving all the sources and details but, actually, most of it is so well-known, that even Christians should be aware that this evidence exists.
www.atheistalliance.org/thinki…
Isaiah 6:10 New King James Version (NKJV)
10 “Make the heart of this people dull,
And their ears heavy,
And shut their eyes;
Lest they see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears,
And understand with their heart,
And return and be healed.”
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Comments: 10
JuniorS89 [2019-06-23 03:29:52 +0000 UTC]
I feel like the fact that we are faulty doesn't excuse our mistakes. So your logic isn't logical.
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Triagonal [2019-06-13 02:24:06 +0000 UTC]
Ever hear of the preface paradox? I don't deny Allah exists, but what you say assumes we got every detail right and then didn't miss anything. I don't insist we have. Do you expect the originator to be an open book? For all we know, he might not like cat people or he might really like the company of Shintoists. As to my excuse to why I adhere at all, I've come too far to stop now. Plus there's the jamaat.
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EmpathicDesign [2019-05-23 06:54:42 +0000 UTC]
Oh my goodness. I will ask this post-rebuttal: Did you think through everything you're asserting before you wrote it?
Exactly how is it the fault of the Father if mankind elects to commit sin? With that logic, all parents must suffer the consequences and persecution for the crimes of their children; no age limitation. This could not prove more adequately how this is not the fault of the Father.
Ironically, God did not make human kind faulty; this is made clear in Genesis. Mankind elected, under it's own desire to commit sin, and by those self electing choices, made themselves "faulty". Again, not the fault of the Father.
Uh, friend, common sense isn't context.. Thought you should know that..
"Jesus, though he was an incarnate deity, was also a human being and therefore shared in human fallibility, and could be wrong on occasion."
"Could" is not "Is". With human nature comes human flaw, with human law comes human limitation, and notice the wording: "he was an incarnate deity". This is not an assumption or an assertion. This is a claim. A claim that affirms the divinity of Christ. Again, did you think post-writing?
1. Because you did not receive what you wanted, does not invalidate the Word. If you read Luke, God says not to test Him.
2. The very fact that Christ Jesus is a historically confirmed individual, who traveled, spoke to many noted names that are also affirmed historically and is recorded in thousands of manuscripts affirms Christ as a valid source of information.
3. What does that have to do with anything? Are you asserting that religion has not spread through speech, oral recitation or in written form? Or are you asserting that an ideology cannot spread by teaching it to children? Because if it's either, I have very bad news for you..
4. And this evidence is? Is this evolution in accordance with the original doctrine or is it a deviation of the teachings that can be read in the original, preserved manuscripts?
5. All things have to start from somewhere and spread outwards. Do you believe it so simple that being ignorant is automatic damnation?
6. Words mean nothing without proof. What are these errors and if you appeal to the rabbit or fig tree fallacy so help me..
7. Incoherent how? How on earth is it incoherent? How? How is it incoherent when there are hundreds of thousands of scholars, theologians and historians who are making clear sense of the contextual, historical and geographical content of Christianity? Is there something wrong with you or have you never heard of the mystical term "Context", or do you think post-speaking. Oh dear oh dear.. This is so bad..
8. There is no logic on the existence of Christ. Jesus is an affirmed historical figure. Have you ever read Bart Ehrman, or Paula Fredrikson, Marcus Borg, Pinchas Lapide or Gerd Lüdemann? Some of the most famous and respected scholars who are all affirming the existence of the historical Jesus. If these individuals are unreliable, then I challenge, and demand, that you provide your credentials that supplant the credentials of only half of the names I provided, and prove yourself to be a greater source of authority.
Oh my goodness. This is bad.. So, so bad.
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Mikro-Mike In reply to EmpathicDesign [2019-06-04 02:36:15 +0000 UTC]
You forgot about the freewill we were all given, everything else is correct! I think we shouldn't test him, but trying to figure out what your religion is about, requires some questions, just not absurd questions like "why can't I fly". Good job on everything man.
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lisa-im-laerm In reply to Mikro-Mike [2019-06-04 15:47:20 +0000 UTC]
free will to burn and test the woman f.e., only the women of course
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lisa-im-laerm In reply to EmpathicDesign [2019-05-23 15:29:36 +0000 UTC]
You spammed here everything full, that's kinda sick
If you believe that much, go and follow him!
Yeah, yeah, the context, we had that already
again, stay away and stop wasting my time! The Trick by lisa-im-laerm but you're will be blocked anyway
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Mikro-Mike In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2019-06-04 12:02:45 +0000 UTC]
Wow, you are actually an idiot. The sword is of salvation, and not slaughter. You do, anyways, take things out of context. I'm not sure if you know this or not, but Catholics don't usually remember the Bible verse for verse. He did not create us with original single, he created us perfect. You should probably know this. He also gave us freewill, which plays a big part. God has warned the pharoes that if they do not let the captives of Judaism, he will blast them with plauges. The angel of death comes to set the Jews free. I'm shocked at your lack of knowledge on this concept. If you post things that you will debate people on, know your facts, and dont tell the to stop wasting your time. The emoji on the end was also incredibly unprofessional. Thank you C.S Lewis for giving me such a refined faith. You have a sense of right and wrong, and where do you think it came from. Animals have instinct, and do everything they need to. Wheras humans have free will, and are able to decide if they want desert, or if they should cut off calories. That doesn't make us god, or like him. It seems you ARE the only person I can find so far, who always complains about context. You are the most unprofessional debater I have had the pleasure to convert.
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lisa-im-laerm In reply to Mikro-Mike [2019-06-04 15:40:40 +0000 UTC]
"Wow, you are actually an idiot."
What an argument and that from someone who wants to believe in fairy tales
:carzy:
Here is more you can misinterprete, until it becomes more comfortable for you:
he is, cause it is written exactly here, means it must be true.
And more stuff you (!) should follow (with a swor or a stone, a salvation stone I giess ):
If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” 15 then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. 16 Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels[a ] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.
20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.
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