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Published: 2015-07-02 21:04:42 +0000 UTC; Views: 15080; Favourites: 249; Downloads: 4
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Elsa, thinking:…She was preferable.

Hans, crying: how could I’ve been so blind?


It’s confused, it’s roughly painted, maybe i used a wrong photo filter too, but I had to draw it anyway..this is how i actually feel about this ship. So much regret for what could/should have been and it’s not.

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tmwillson3 [2016-01-02 08:13:03 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you that this definitely sums up my feelings about this ship as well.... there was so much that could have been, so many missed opportunities. I think Elsa could have redeemed him, with a little more time. Both have regrets and are flawed, but they can come together through it. Thanks for such a beautiful drawing and way to represent how I feel about these two

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DannyTorrance In reply to tmwillson3 [2019-09-07 06:02:53 +0000 UTC]

BS

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lisuli79 In reply to tmwillson3 [2016-01-02 15:35:25 +0000 UTC]

Awww dear thank you so much! Even though this piece is not very much refined, i love for the message it conveys, which you perfectly described, i guess it's what we all helsa shippers feel about them in the end

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tmwillson3 In reply to lisuli79 [2016-01-13 01:03:14 +0000 UTC]

Yes, that message is what matters most.  We can come together on that for sure

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inspired-flower [2015-09-19 10:42:00 +0000 UTC]

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lisuli79 In reply to inspired-flower [2015-09-21 10:33:19 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, I am happy you like it!

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inspired-flower In reply to lisuli79 [2015-09-21 18:43:08 +0000 UTC]

This drawing is full of emotions, it brings me inspiration, right when I'm building a story for a new Helsa fanfic

I really loved how you did Elsa's reflection

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lisuli79 In reply to inspired-flower [2015-09-21 19:29:18 +0000 UTC]

Awwww that is gorgeous and the best compliment indeed, if it inspired you for your writing!

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inspired-flower In reply to lisuli79 [2015-09-21 20:07:49 +0000 UTC]

 

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PrincessOfCorona [2015-07-07 16:31:48 +0000 UTC]

wow...so many feels. I love the way you draw them. It is so good. Can you draw some kid! helsa please? There are so few kid helsa art out there.

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lisuli79 In reply to PrincessOfCorona [2015-07-07 16:39:51 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much!

In fact, the best kid!helsa is still that made by Elisebrave ( it's on tumblr, a little comic with them playing, adorable) but I need to do them too. I am also planning to do a kiss meme, with many Disney couples ( I suck at drawing kisses so I want to practice).

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PrincessOfCorona In reply to lisuli79 [2015-07-07 16:43:28 +0000 UTC]

Yay...for a kiss. We need a lot of Helsa kiss. Now you remind me that I have not drawn them kissing yet too.

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lisuli79 In reply to PrincessOfCorona [2015-07-07 17:03:35 +0000 UTC]

And i would love to see you do that

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PrincessOfCorona In reply to lisuli79 [2015-07-07 17:19:33 +0000 UTC]

I would try my best.

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Jg-OmniaArt [2015-07-07 14:15:55 +0000 UTC]

Mi piace vedere Hans che piange. Non per sadismo, intendiamoci ! Trovo che per un personaggio come lui sia molto liberatorio, uno sfogo e soprattutto un rimpianto. Se Hans dovesse tornare nel sequel e fosse redento, credo che la sua storia potrebbe partire da qui. Davvero molto belli anche i filtri che hai usato, trasmettono nostalgia e dolcezza. Complimenti! 

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lisuli79 In reply to Jg-OmniaArt [2015-07-07 15:10:24 +0000 UTC]

Il tema dell'uomo che piange ( mi viene in mente Yamato Takeru, eroe giapponese mezzo avvolto nella leggenda, ricordato nelle poesie anche per la sua capacità di accettare la sconfitta e abbandonarsi ad un pianto catartico) è senza dubbio uno dei miei preferiti. Amo gli uomini che non temono di mostrare la propria debolezza. Volevo che passasse questo messaggio, del sedicente eroe che si rende conto dell'errore madornale commesso in nome della brama di potere personale e del rimpianto per non aver capito che con l'amore avrebbe potuto ottenere ben di più, oltre che un trono. Sarebbe bellissimo se Frozen due potesse trattare anche di questo tema.
Ti ringrazio anche per il commento tecnico, volevo dare l'impressione che si trattasse di una foto sbiadita e rovinata, ma ne ho un bel po' di strada da fare per imparare a lavorare sui filtri.

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Frozen-2 In reply to lisuli79 [2015-07-07 16:37:56 +0000 UTC]

Credo che sarebbe un bellissimo messaggio. Ho sempre immaginato Hans nascondere il proprio rammarico per via della sua educazione, così come il suo dolore. Non credo però che avrebbe potuto realizzare fin da subito che avrebbe potuto ottenere qualcosa di migliore con l'amore, dato che il suo obbiettivo era quello di diventare re per ottenere l'attenzione della sua famiglia e realizzare il sogno di poter governare un regno come un re competente come, probabilmente, si vedeva. Hans non conosce il vero senso di amare, poiché nessuno glielo ha mai mostrato. Sarebbe una realizzazione nuova per lui che però imparerebbe dagli altri. Lui prima di tutto ha bisogno di provare affetto e poi amare. Ma, ripeto, non può impararlo da solo. Per quanto riguarda il pianto, prego che lo dimostri in qualche modo non troppo forzato. Vedremo...

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lisuli79 In reply to Frozen-2 [2015-07-07 17:07:52 +0000 UTC]

Ma sai, noi possiamo solo fare speculazioni e per fortuna almeno nessuno ci impedisce di farlo. Non so se hai mai visto quella serie di tavole dipinte in modo spettacolare su tumblr realizzate da idontlikeitpaintitred ( credo sia questo il suo url) a tema Hans ( vita precedente gli avvenimenti di Arendelle e un possibile seguito) avranno tipo 40.000 note, ecco a me non dispiacerebbe un frozen Hans-centrico, dove, con una serie di eventi che ovviamente non so definire perché le mie abilità di narratrice sono pari allo zero assoluto- siano Elsa, Anna e Kristoff ad aiutarlo nel suo percorso di redenzione..ma non succederà mai quindi mi metto l'anima in pace.

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Frozen-2 In reply to lisuli79 [2015-07-07 18:30:02 +0000 UTC]

sì, ho visto quei magnifici lavori. Per essere sincero, Hans è uno dei personaggi più interessanti della Disney, ma dobbiamo ricordare che Frozen parla più di Elsa ed Anna, con a loro seguito gli altri personaggi principali. Come penso sempre, le due sorelle sono al centro dell'attenzione, ma ci sono anche gli altri personaggi in scena.
Quello che positivamente noto però è che comunque Kristoff e Sven, ed anche Olaf, non sono in secondo piano, ma sono ben incentrati, cone accade in Frozen Fever. Questi personaggi sono co protagonisti della storia. Hans ha il ruolo antagonista, ma ha avuto meno spazio, poiché la trama originale lo mostrava solo come l'interesse amoroso di Anna all'inizio, ma rimanendo poi dalla parte dei buoni quando lei si metteva con Kristoff, cambiando ruolo quando modificarono la trama. La Disney ha però deciso di incentrare il personaggio di Hans nel romanzo A Frozen Heart. Anche se non è perfettamente assicurabile la canonicità di questo lavoro, ci da una migliore prospettiva del personaggio. Io credo che in realtà Frozen avrebbe avuto una migliore possibilità di mostrare Elsa ed Hans se la trama non fosse stata incentrata più sul viaggio di Anna e Kristoff. Questo poiché la versione originale della trama metteva Elsa come antagonista ed Hans come "eroe romantico", ma lasciando Anna come principessa protagonista e Kristoff come vero eroe.
Per Frozen 2 ho molte più speranze perché ormai i personaggi li conosciamo e quindi verranno tutti mostrati insieme fin dall'inizio. Io penso anche che la trama sarà più complessa proprio per dare un giusto spazio a tutti. Elsa, Anna, Kristoff, Hans, Olaf e Sven sono tutti personaggi principali, tutti meritano il loro spazio. Il primo film, ripeto, si incentrava più su Anna e Kristoff, il seguito dovrebbe invece incentrarsi anche su Elsa ed Hans. Questo, ripeto, per dare più complessità alla trama. ...

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Soulcracker-563 [2015-07-05 17:22:53 +0000 UTC]

Yes, so much trouble for them to be together, but if only they gave each other a chance. Wonderful!!

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lisuli79 In reply to Soulcracker-563 [2015-07-05 19:16:46 +0000 UTC]

ah thank you! I didn't expect such a favorable reaction to this work and it makes me happy, even though whenever I look at it it makes me want to cry

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xGenerationZEROx In reply to lisuli79 [2025-11-04 07:30:18 +0000 UTC]

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Frozen-2 [2015-07-05 12:05:31 +0000 UTC]

Magnifico lavoro. Veramente, hai centrato uno dei punti più belli di Helsa. Come molti dicono, questa ship è un po' come Romeo e Giulietta. ... un amore diviso dalle apparenze. Lei è l'eroina e lui il villain.
Bella l'idea di far indossare ad Elsa il vestito dell'incoronazione, rappresenta la sua chiusura interna e l'impossibilità di essere se stessa.
Ben fatto Elisa, veramente. ...

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lisuli79 In reply to Frozen-2 [2015-07-05 14:06:20 +0000 UTC]

Grazie Luca!! Tecnicamente non è uno dei miei preferiti ma per le emozioni che riesce a veicolare sicuramente sì. Diciamo che è la mia visione più realistica di quello che potrebbe succedere, una consapevolezza giunta troppo tardi ad entrambi, di quanto sarebbero potuti essere felici e di quanto la chiusura di una e la smania di potere dell'altro hanno invece negato. Amo l'amore tragico, non si vede vero??

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Frozen-2 In reply to lisuli79 [2015-07-05 15:43:40 +0000 UTC]

Si vede assai.

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lisuli79 In reply to Frozen-2 [2015-07-05 16:14:33 +0000 UTC]

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ElizabethLove1 [2015-07-05 06:22:20 +0000 UTC]

Seriously, no matter what, these two could give you the feels <3

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lisuli79 In reply to ElizabethLove1 [2015-07-05 08:35:27 +0000 UTC]

I know. It's because I love the tragic side of love that I am so fascinated by the potential of this couple.

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jackiel1565 [2015-07-04 00:14:57 +0000 UTC]

Elisa you are going to make me cry! This is so tragically beautiful! You put the emotion of how us helsa fans feel about this ship and you summed it up in one picture and it's absolutely amazing! I swear these two are the Romeo and Juliet of the Disney universe. At least that's how I feel when I look at this again it's absolutely stunning I can't stop smiling and wanting to cry all at the same time

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lisuli79 In reply to jackiel1565 [2015-07-04 05:11:46 +0000 UTC]

Thank you Jackie. You know that I try to imagine them as gleeful and joyful as possible, and make people laugh with them, but that is my daydream. If I want to give a deeper insight, and look at what they really are, then this is what I see. Sadly.

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jackiel1565 In reply to lisuli79 [2015-07-09 03:39:58 +0000 UTC]

Well it's absolutely stunning! I love how they smile at eachother they are just two cute. And then when you see them alone in the corners it just makes your heart break for them. This is just perfect!

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ThePrincessofStars [2015-07-03 08:31:56 +0000 UTC]

What to say?...Awesome! Volevo chiederti anch'io se potevo usarla come cover della mia fanfiction su Helsa, quella a cui sto ancora lavorando, ma vedo che Michael mi ha battuta sul tempo.
Quanto è vero che la relazione Helsa è complicata?! Proprio per questo sarebbe fantastica come trama di Frozen 2. Dovrebbe insegnare il perdono e che tutti meritano una seconda occasione... e chi meglio di Elsa lo sa?
After all "People make bad chioces when they're mad or scared or stressed, but put a little love their way and you'll bring out their best"

P.S.
Dimenticavo, se ti piacciono i miei racconti, qui su Deviant, oltre che su Fanficiton.net, ho pubblicato un mio remake dela Fantasma dell'Opera, non è una Helsa, ma se la leggessi e mi dessi un parere, mi farebbe molto piacere. Se vuoi, ovviamente

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lisuli79 In reply to ThePrincessofStars [2015-07-03 12:56:42 +0000 UTC]

Ma grazie!! Beh se vuoi usare anche tu delle immagini tratte dai miei disegni fai pure basta che tu scriva da dove le hai prese non ci sono problemi eh!!

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Fan-des-WHAT-IF [2015-07-03 06:05:19 +0000 UTC]

Aww so sad

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lisuli79 In reply to Fan-des-WHAT-IF [2015-07-03 12:58:18 +0000 UTC]

When i try to think about them in the most real way, sadness is dominant indeed...

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Michael-GoldenHeart [2015-07-03 03:49:23 +0000 UTC]

I adore this artwork so much! Great to see your art again With your permission and credit to you, may I use the center picture as the cover for my upcoming Helsa story?

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lisuli79 In reply to Michael-GoldenHeart [2015-07-03 05:42:34 +0000 UTC]

Aww Michael, we haven't talked in a while, now have we? I hope everything is ok with you! Yes, I started drawing again maybe one month ago, after a two months break... I am glad you like these new works too.. Of course you can use that part of the drawing, just remember to put the credits ( but I know you always do ). Lots of kisses

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MsLyoness [2015-07-02 23:07:32 +0000 UTC]

That is totally the way I view this ship too. So much potential, so many missed chances, so many awful decisions on Hans' part. Dammit Hans. It's completely your fault Helsa will never actually happen.

But this is lovely, like your art always is. The warm colors are a real change, but they work very well for the emotion of this one. I can't help but notice that Elsa is back to the buttoned-up, repressed style she had at the coronation. Was that, perhaps, deliberate on your part? As if to imply that she had her chance to be sexy and powerful and free, but now it's back to the daily struggle of being queen with no Hans to help her like he could have? Or am I just reading WAAAAAAY too much into this?

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lisuli79 In reply to MsLyoness [2015-07-03 05:39:35 +0000 UTC]

Awwww dear, you are not going too far away from my thoughts about them, I'd say you nailed it!
I agree with everything you said, I love the unexpressed potential they have as a couple, and all the angst and feels that this brings along..
The original colors of the drawing were pretty much darker and colder, but I wanted to give the whole picture a old-ruined- photo effect, so I added some photo filters and textures with Photoshop.
As for her dress, I think that Elsa would soon return to her Victorian fashioned clothes, she is a queen after all, and not just the ice queen that must show off her powers. She would change them according to her feelings. But in sad moments like these there would be no room for sparkling and shining ice dresses...
Thank you so much for your lovely comment!

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MsLyoness In reply to lisuli79 [2015-07-03 14:00:07 +0000 UTC]

Oh good, here I thought I was being all obsessed and seeing things that weren't there. XD

I quite like the effect of those filters! And yeah, she can't wear that sexy ice gown all the time, especially when meeting with stuffy older diplomats. And it simply did not suit the mood of this picture, but what she's wearing now certainly does.

Unexpressed potential indeed. Helsa is definitely a very angsty, very dark couple. Kristoff and Anna are much sweeter and lighter and sunshine-ier, or at least Anna is, but Elsa and Hans have far too much unhappiness and anger in their pasts. Both before and after he decided he had to chop her head off to be the hero. I do think Hans honestly views himself as the hero, not the villain, in a twisted messed up Machiavellian way.

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lisuli79 In reply to MsLyoness [2015-07-03 15:13:39 +0000 UTC]

I see your point here: and in fact, if you noticed at the end of the movie, on the boat after the thaw, Hans is not angry, nor is he acting as a super villainous character, he's just surprised. I do believe he was thinking to be right to act that way. And also Elsa, when Anna is going towards him to punch him, she looks at him almost in a sad way but she does not look furious or upset; I suspect she was hoping he would slay her with that sword, to put an end to all of her misery. They always seem to be connected by some mysterious red line, they are able to communicate in way that others just can't; Hans is the only one on the end, that during all the movie, is able to reasonate with her and make her calm...

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MsLyoness In reply to lisuli79 [2015-07-03 15:42:26 +0000 UTC]

You're right, Hans is simply SHOCKED that he was defeated, Anna saved herself, and Elsa thawed the winter. You know, Weselton too and probably his guards seem to believe that killing Elsa is necessary for the greater good, although of course Wes views her as an evil witch while Hans more than likely sympathizes at least a tiny bit. Brings up some interesting questions about the belief system in that duchy, like if they still burn people at the stake on trumped-up evidence. That's the route I'm taking with it, anyway.

I noticed that too! She's not glaring hatred like I would have been, nor is she scared of him at all. I mean, when he's swinging that sword back you can see she can tell what he's doing, and yet she makes no move whatsoever to escape or fight back. She just kneels there, waiting to die for what she did to Anna and Arendelle. It's a very powerful and dark scene that I think goes over the intended audience's heads.

Indeed, indeed, when Anna tries to calm Elsa down all she does is make her upset. And stupidly, she keeps pushing even when Elsa is pleading with her to stop. So really, we can say it was both Anna and Elsa's fault that her heart was frozen. But with Hans in that dungeon, she's obviously scared but she's not yelling or struggling. That mysterious red line is strong both there and with "Don't be the monster they fear you are!" Every time I watch that scene, even though I know full well what happens later, I think, "THIS right here is why I ship Helsa and always will."

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lisuli79 In reply to MsLyoness [2015-07-03 16:53:33 +0000 UTC]

Ah my friend, once again your words sound like honey to my ears. Don't be the monster they fear you are. Almost a self-encitement, knowing what he's able todo afterwards. I think that THAT is the moment they are most connected, they both look in their eyes for an instant and it's like there is an unbreakble bond between them from that point on, for the good and for the bad. I do agree with you that all the accidents in the movie happen because of Anna's actions ( her being too lively when she is a kid, and her pushing Elsa beyond all the limits on the north mountains, never quite getting the meaning of enough). I concede her that she is brave and selfless, and generous, but her naïveté and her doing-before-thinking are quite exhausting after a while an it sometimes picks on my nerves.
So, that said, Helsa is my only possible ship.

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MsLyoness In reply to lisuli79 [2015-07-03 18:32:11 +0000 UTC]

Totally a self-encitement. He could've stepped back from that edge. I like to think he would've if Elsa had in fact been able to reverse her spell, and those other diplomats hadn't basically said he had Arendelle in the palm of his hand if something happened to the sisters... but he didn't. Sometimes I really want to grab Hans by the sideburns and shake some sense into him. His pathological hero and inferiority I-have-to-prove-myself complexes really deserved to be addressed at greater length, but Disney left it up to fans to speculate and work it out.

Oh good, and here I thought I was the only one who got very annoyed with Anna. I DO like her, but in a "You're stupid but you're so sweet and brave I can't hate you" way. I like Kristanna too, don't get me wrong, but they just do not at all fire my imagination like Hans and Elsa do. So yes, I admittedly take a rather condemnatory view of Anna in my work both through Hans and the narration. Because you are so right, if you go back far enough, every awful thing that befalls her and her sister can be traced back to her own dumb decisions.

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lisuli79 In reply to MsLyoness [2015-07-03 20:29:20 +0000 UTC]

and, me too, I find Kristoff and Anna very cute together, but it really does not go farther than that, like ok, you're and happy and everything, period. But fantasy gets switched on only if i think of Hans and Elsa.

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lisuli79 In reply to MsLyoness [2015-07-03 20:26:21 +0000 UTC]

Now, you can't just write "I really want to grab Hans by the sideburns" and not expect me to have odd fantasies about that thought. Gosh, that image led me to unspeakble and ungodly desires. Let's stop it here.

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shishiyoukai [2015-07-02 22:57:19 +0000 UTC]

Ma che bei colori!!!! E quanti feelssss XD

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lisuli79 In reply to shishiyoukai [2015-07-03 05:33:28 +0000 UTC]

In realtà i colori originali del disegno tendono di più al blu ma siccome volevo dargli l'effetto di una vecchia foto sbiadita e rovinata poi ho giocato un po' con i filtri di Photoshop e le texture. Grazie!!

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Spirit-Ella [2015-07-02 22:12:56 +0000 UTC]

Ma mi vuoi far piangere??? ELISAAAAAA
Ok, basta. Disegno stupendo, lo adoro, ma i feels... TROPPI! XD

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lisuli79 In reply to Spirit-Ella [2015-07-03 05:31:58 +0000 UTC]

Cara Ceci grazie!! Intanto complimenti per la maturità, come ci si sente? Sollevati, vero? Goditi quest'estate

Questo penso sia il disegno che pur nella confusione della composizione- lo ammetto- forse esprime meglio quello che sento quando penso a loro due. Di solito cerco di immaginarmeli in situazioni divertenti ma poi se penso a quello che potrebbe essere la realtà ( nella finzione) mi viene in mente solo questo. E appunto, vai coi pianti.

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