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Science is a wondrous, beautiful, complex thing. It can be very difficult to understand, especially for those who have been raised to be against the voice of logic and reason. It is often far easier to throw logic, reason and thinking power out of the window and claim that some imaginary man in the sky is pulling all the strings.I marvel at how many people don't see the connection between religiousness and poor education and other such things.
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It sounds like something a little kid would say to avoid getting in trouble!
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Agree with the stamp very much.
My mom had breast cancer, for example. She is the nicest person I know. She'd give her life for a stranger, probably. "It's God's will?" That's such an easy way out.
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why can't religion and science ever compromise?
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I use logic to figure things out. I'm a weak agnostic, really. Easy answers don't solve anything. They even frustrate me at times. Give me facts and reason, not scripture and speculation.
^w^ I love the stamp.
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I believe in God and still support logic and reason...
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I've always believed that science and religion can walk hand in hand. In fact, a lot of what I learned in science matches up to what I read in the Bible. I am Roman Catholic, and I always have reason and logic behind my way of thinking.
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I wonder how much of the bible you have read. Science and the Bible are quite incompatible. The creation story in genesis is a huge example of this.
According to genesis bats are birds, light came before a source of light like the sun, plants grew before there was sunlight to fuel photosynthesis, etc. The bible's not logical thinking, it's wishful thinking. It's an explanation for things that were unexplainable at the time (some of which are still unexplainable to the point of complete certainty today, but we are still much more knowledgeable and becoming increasingly so every day.).
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About Genesis... the Bible uses a lot of figurative language. Time doesn't mean squat to God. The "six days" mentioned were most likely not six twenty-four hour periods. I believe they lasted millions of years. And those things you mentioned are figurative language. I don't take every single word of the Bible super literally like some Fundamentalists; a lot of it wasn't meant to be that way.
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It was created in six days lmao. Stop rejecting the Bible.
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When the bible was written it was meant as the literal, perfect word of God. I'm annoyed by people who pick and choose or say that something was meant figuratively even more than the people who accept the bible word for word. I don't see how plants 'coming forth from the earth' could happen before a sun was created or how exactly that could be figurative. The same for the bats are birds thing. It stands to reason that people didn't know about photosynthesis or that bats were really mammals when they wrote the bible and it was the best explanation they could think of at the time. The same things happen today with the origin of life, the universe and everything else we have been unable to get concrete explanations of. We can't explain it yet, so some people feel the need to slap a god sticker on it. It's the god of the gaps and it's so annoying.
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We don't pick and choose. Fundamentalists often do. They take the "six days" in Genesis super literally, but not the part in every Gospel where Jesus says "This IS my body." The Bible isn't a reference guide, it's a book made up of different literary features. The Psalms are songs and poems, the Gospels tell short stories, etc. For me, science explains how stuff literally works and the Bible tells many stories about the history of the world. It makes sense: God would start with bacteria and protozoa and end with humans. The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains it far better than I can. Also, since I feel that science and religion can walk hand in hand, I'm less likely to get into arguments about which is right. I'm not the only one; Newton and Einstein believed firmly in God too.
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You don't pick and choose? Ok.
Do you believe that the only way to salvation is through Jesus?
Do you believe that homosexuality is immoral?
Do you believe that disobedient children should be killed?
Do you believe it is wrong to eat pork or shellfish?
I could go on.
The bible is not proper history. It is a collection of unreliable documents written about myths and legends, none from first hand accounts, and translated over and over again with omissions and add ins on the side.
The bible mentions nothing of bacteria, physics or any type of scientific knowledge that could not have been known by men at the time.
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Only Muslims can't eat pork.
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The Bible isn't supposed to be a reference book or a history textbook. It tells stories that are true. Science is pure fact and pure theory, while the Bible has literary elements thrown in there. Yes, Martin Luther DID edit the Bible a lot, but we use the unedited translation of the Latin Vulgate Bible. And some of those tenets you refer to are part of the Jewish law. When the Bible describes the way the ancient Jews chose to worship, it's not telling us that we should be like them. And in response to your questions:
1) Yes, but I do not believe that all non-Catholics are going to go to the Other Place. In fact, I don't think MOST people are going to go to the other place. One of my very good friends is an atheist, and I respect that. (She in turn respects my beliefs). I do not believe she is going to go to the Other Place. God gave you free will, and only you can make your own choices. You have to die in mortal sin to go to the Other Place; otherwise you go to Purgatory and will eventually get into heaven. It's like retaking classes you failed in order to get into a prestigious university. Moreover, the Fundamentalist view on salvation (that it happens in some kind of magic moment) has only existed for the past century and was never mentioned anywhere in the Bible.
2) Only if you actually do gay stuff. Think of it this way: If you have a severe nut allergy and want to eat a peanut butter sandwich, it's not wrong to want it alone, but it is to actually eat it. I have no more hatred for gay people than I do for drunks; I merely disapprove of the things they do.
3) No. Killing them wouldn't do them any good.
4) The ancient Jews didn't eat those because of hygiene issues at the time. They still hold fast to that tradition. The only limitation on my diet is that I'm not supposed to eat meat on Fridays in Lent, to show that I'm willing to do small favors for God.
Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church sometime. It's like Sparknotes for the Bible. I think it will seem less extreme to you than Fundamentalist views.
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Nope, Homosexuality is said to be a sin.
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EVERYTHING HUMANS DO, EAT OR WEAR IS A SIN.
No one cares.
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Christians do, and fuck off. Have fun in Hell.
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Again, you're rejecting it (The Bible).
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Nah, everyone who isn't a Christian (or a believer in God & Jesus) is going down. I respect your beliefs though.
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Since you have mixed answers to the questions I asked that means that you pick and choose.
I have read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I own a copy. Or at least my mom does since she's Catholic. I'll admit I do find it less extreme than fundamentalist views, but that does not prove that the bible is compatible with science.
From the parting of the red sea to Jesus' resurrection the bible is based on supernatural, scientifically impossible myths written down even as late as 100AD then compiled and edited edited edited. The idea that these stories could be true history or hold any scientific basis is ridiculous.
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Those miracles that happened happened because God made them happen. God's the one that made the world; he could do all those things too that wouldn't happen on their own.
I see you still seem to take certain Bible passages too literally. A lot of the stuff in the Old Testament talks about the Jewish law of the times. It doesn't mean we have to behave exactly the way the Jews did in the BC years. If a book talked about how sports were illegal in Bahavia throughout the nineteenth century, that wouldn't make sports illegal for you.
Nonetheless, do you find my beliefs more reasonable than some?
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nice. i agree to you.. everything has a reason.. i hate it when people says' "its god's will" when something happen and they can't explain it. f*** even them dont really understand what they're believing. they just believe because of what other people tell them.. not of what they understand..
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I agree, I think passing something off as an act of a god deprives people of a chance to get to know and study how things really work and how they happen.
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Your comment concerning religiousness and poor education is not untrue. However, it isn't absolute either. There are plenty of well educated people who believe in a god. hey, whatever floats their boat.
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Yes, that is true, hardly anything is absolute. I just hate when people turn a blind eye to reason and logic even when it's clear as day.
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