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I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE WITH THE FOLLOWING! I JUST WANT TO SHOW THE DARK SIDE OF THE SHINGEKI NO KYOJIN/ATTACK ON TITAN FANDOM! HAVE FUN!So.
This is my SnK OC Misaki Ayako Rina Yvonne - Susanne Ute Erika Diamondfield, but you can call her Mary Sue.
Here some info about my SnK OC.
Last Name: Diamondfield
First Name: Misaki Ayako Rina Yvonne - Susanne Ute Erika
Nickname: Mary Sue, Kitty
Age: 15
Height: 158 cm
Weight: 40 kg
Squad: Military Police
Rank: 104th Trainees Squad, Rank 4
Personality:
- cute
- adorable
- sweet
- energetic
- wants to be friends with everyone
- clumsy
History:
Mary Sue knows Grisha because he saved her when she was about to be raped in a cabin in the woods. But she never lost her happy style of life because she always believes into the good properties of humans. Because both her parents died through robbery, Grisha takes her with him to Shiganshina district where she lived together with Eren and Mikasa. Also she was best friends with Armin and helps him when he was bullied.
When the Colossal Titan attacks Shiganshina she helps Armin to get Hannes so he could save Eren and Mikasa.
In Trost district she has the same dream as Eren where she saw Grisha giving her a key to the basement and injecting some ominous serum into her veins.
She decides to go with Eren, Mikasa and Armin to the military to be with her childhood friends. She graduates in the 104th trainee squad as number 4. Because she's scared of the titans she decides to go into the inner district to serve the king.
Additional Info:
- she has a crush on Rivaille because he saved her in Trost when Eren tried to plug the hole in the wall
- she owns a titan shifter ability but didn' t discovered this yet
- she has german, japanese and british roots
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Trolololololol.
Nope. Let's get serious guys.
THIS. Is UTTER bullshit. Like srsly.
I saw some people who use this dollmaker for creating their snk oc and some of this looks just horrible and totally not fitting for the series.
I created this to show how you should NOT use a dollmaker for creating a serious snk oc.
The information above was a negative example of things you are able to read way to often in descriptions.
So, here I'm gonna tell you what's wrong with THIS example and some of the ocs created with that dollmaker I saw on this page.
1. The hair.
Unnatural color? Check.
Guys, please choose a natural color for your OC, just as brown, blonde, black or reddish. But NOT blue, pink, green, light orange,purple or ANY other color you can only achieve with chemicals.
2. Hair length.
Way too long hair which could tangle up in the ropes? Check.
Ever that snk canons usually have short hair at least down to her shoulders OR tied up hair with an acceptable-long pigtail? Even Christa ties up her hair when it comes to a mission. So just try to give your character hair that could not be the cause of their death when it comes to a serious fight.
3. Eye.
Heterochromia and unnatural eye colors? Check.
Give your goddamn character no bicolored eyes. It's not common but if you want to do it so badly, then please choose natural colors, such as blue and green or green and brown, but not FRICKEN red.
Also try not to make them albino, because their eye sight is just shitty and they would end up dead really soon.
4. Clothing.
Midriff? Check.
Don't give your oc some midriff. I saw so many ocs with midriff and that's just not good.
It shows way to much skin and that means more space to be injured by titans or in fights in general.
So just don't do it. And try to orientate yourself on the colors seen in the series. So use white, light yellow or olive for example as a possible shirt color.
5. The name.
Overly long semi-japanese name with unnecessary middle names? Check.
Guys. Please try to keep the name of your character into the universe. I saw many many ocs with japanese names even if it's confirmed that Mikasa is the last oriental character alive. Or at least the last one alive we know.
In these series you have the chance to give your oc your own name,so why you don't do it? In other fandoms you always use american names even if it's settled in japan and it seems like suddenly everyone is too lazy to use google to find some japanese names and then, when you are allowed to use names of other countries, you are able to use google to find japanese ones out of a sudden. WHY?
The origin of the names used in snk are commonly german or just european names (I mean look at this: Bertholdt, Reiner, Armin, Hannes, Franz. They are typical german names.)
So just try to keep this in a line. Same goes for the surnames btw.
6. Nicknames.
Non-fitting nicknames? Check.
If you want to give your character a nickname then please try to let it fit with the actual name or at least with some special trait of the character (like, if your oc is pretty strong then you can give him/her a nickname that represents this trait). As mentioned here in my example, 'Kitty' isn't a good nickname because it isn't even mentioned how she got this name.
*EDIT*
Also - don't use canon's nicknames! Examples: "Humanity's strongest"applies to Levi/Rivaille, while Mike is the second strongest. "Worth a hundred soldiers" applies to Mikasa and "Humanity's wisest" to Hanji/Hange.
Come up with your own one, and don't make it sound too similar to canon ones.
7. Height/Weight.
Underweight? Check.
I KNOW that food is a huge in problem in snk because it's really rare and the main food are bread rolls and stew, but.
Being part of the military means that you gain muscles sooner or later. And they just weight more than just 'fat' or no muscles at all.
8. Squad & Rank.
Top 10 and kicking out canons? Check.
It's a really spicy thing to put your oc into the same squad as the main canons because it could probably cause some trouble when it comes to the Top 10. No one says that you are not allowed to create an oc that is part of the Top 10, but if you want to do so, make sure to put your character into a squad which existed either before the storyline (such as 103rd Trainee Squad) or a squad that got created after the actual storyline (like 105th Trainee Squad). It's a delicate situation to put your oc into the Top 10 of the 104th,if all members are known by name.
By giving our example the 4th rank, we push down Annie, Eren, Jean, Marco, Connie, Sasha for one rank and kick out Christa of the Top 10 and that would destroy parts of the actual plot.
9. Personality.
Dere-Type? Check.
Don't. Describe. Dere-Types. For god's sake.
They are cliche, boring and EVERYONE is doing it, as it seems.
Why not giving your character a balanced personalty with good and bad aspects like every normal person own them? To just mention 'clumsy' as a bad trait to give your character at least one bad trait, be more creative, make them selfish, arrogant or give them low self esteem. It may took a bit more time to imagine this, but in the end you will have a well-balanced character personality.
10. History.
Angsty backstory? Double-check.
...do I really need to explain that?
Don't kill your poor parents, there can't be a world full of orphans, don't involve your oc into the backstory of some common golden trio and just be creative.
11. Additional Info & Special abillites.
Titan shifter & crush on a canon? CHECK.
First things first. Titan shifter ocs.
THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM. Every third oc I see is a shifter. WHY?
The titan shifter we know are there for a good reason (we may not know it yet, but hopefully we will know soon.) I don't think that turning your oc into a shifter will be a better base to ship the oc with Bertholdth, Reiner, Eren or RIVAILLE because it does not make everything more interesting.
Also why do people still ship their kawaii-desu-ne-oc with probably asexual canons?
Rivaille is the best example. If I would get one dollar for every girlfriend-oc or wife he owns, I would be a really rich bitch.
He's not the best boyfriend and he doesn't shows as much emotion as you guys may imagine him to have. Actually, every single emotion he shows in artworks or fanfictions beneath his usual expressions is just ooc and just don't suits him.
That's all for now.
As said at the start, I don't want to offend anyone (neither the dollmaker-users nor the dollmaker-creator), I just wanted to get some things straight, because sometimes it really hurts to be part of the snk fandom.
If you have any stuff you think I didn't mentioned here or if you have another opinion in this, then go ahead and tell me, I'm free to discuss with you!
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Comments: 25
JustanormalCPfan [2020-10-20 01:30:12 +0000 UTC]
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tultsi93 [2017-07-24 16:08:03 +0000 UTC]
And what's bad, these people don't give any credit to the creators of dollmakers. -.-
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JustanormalCPfan In reply to tultsi93 [2020-10-17 07:04:39 +0000 UTC]
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irismatidia [2016-05-31 12:29:41 +0000 UTC]
HA HA HA HA !!!!! This... thing is hilarious!!!
More seriously, you point really painful flaws in SNK ocs. Your example is perfect, we can say that if an oc avoid these, it'll get more chance to be believable and fine.
But I wonder, you stated she was a dere, which one?
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startstatic97 [2015-09-08 17:53:39 +0000 UTC]
I'm not gonna agree 100% with what you said about Levi, he even SMILED in the canon manga recently, man! XD But yeah, all the rest is so true. That's why I love reading those Mary-Sue-on-purpose character descriptions ^^
I think you didn't mention making OCs too damn overpowered in general though (top 10 + titanshifting covers it partially, I meant it in general though)
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Ask-Annie-Leonhardt In reply to KawaiiGothicNeko666 [2016-08-27 11:54:26 +0000 UTC]
There is nothing imaginative about using the same idea that's been used by a thousand other people..
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BeatleBoy247ALT [2015-07-09 18:16:29 +0000 UTC]
If Levi had a dollar for every Mary-Sue that would be his wife, he would be a fucking pimp
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BeatleBoy247ALT [2015-07-09 18:06:34 +0000 UTC]
THis dollmaker game is going to become the next Pony creator. And we all know how that went
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sunnycustard [2015-02-04 20:37:54 +0000 UTC]
Didn't Mikasa have long hair at the beginning of the series?
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LolNoItIsCritique In reply to sunnycustard [2015-02-05 20:37:36 +0000 UTC]
Uh, yeah she did, but she was still a kid back then and when she joined the military, it was Eren who reminded her, that she'd need to cut her hair down, or else it would be a problem. She didn't already fight the titans while still having long hair - it was shortly after she joined the trainees. Following that, she did have short hair afterwards!
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TheTwistedAngel [2015-01-31 18:11:54 +0000 UTC]
The only things I disagree with are not having an albino OC and not showing midriff.
Not all albinos are practically legally blind. There different levels of albinism, with different levels of eyesight.
And why does it matter if the are showing midriff? You said that its unprotected skin... but how much is a shirt going to protect them? Also if you have a more reckless character, then they may choose to wear a more exposing shirt, even if it isn't exactly logical.
And attack on titan obviously isn't 100% logical, so a few things that don't make 100% sense is fine, to me at least. As long as it isn't someone with hair like hatsune miku's or something.
I'm not trying to be rude or start an arguement, just giving my input.~ If I'm incorrect about something then I would mind being told- its been a while since I've researched albinism.
... I'm probably taking this way too seriously, I doubt you even care that much
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LolNoItIsCritique In reply to TheTwistedAngel [2015-02-02 12:16:44 +0000 UTC]
First of, thanks for commenting and bringing up your own opinion.
Of course there are different levels of eyesight - not everyone with a bad eyesight is automatically blind. Even Hanji/Hange wears glasses.
But well, albinism is still a pretty rare thing to have, and up until now I don't remember seeing any canons having it.
But there are so many ocs who have it.. but I'm no pro at albinism as well - I just know some stuff I read.
Now, moving on to the midriff thing. Yeah, well if you fight against Titans midriff and a normal shirt won't matter that much, since you'll probably be crushed my them anyways. But if it is a normal fight - maybe against another soldier, I think it is important, that the character wears normal clothes, since it is easier for a human being to hurt another one who's exposing more skin. Although - that is just the way I think of it.
But indeed, that only counts if the oc isn't out of his mind. As you mentioned, if the OC is reckless, the midriff could be a way to proof it!
So combining those two traits seem logical to me... in some way.
But after all, I just wanted to show a really bad example combining most traits of this "wrong way" as possible - so I think you could say I am not taking stuff too serious aswell.
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DontHeichouMeJaeger [2015-01-15 10:06:41 +0000 UTC]
I think everyone who's making an oc should read this!
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LolNoItIsCritique In reply to DontHeichouMeJaeger [2015-02-02 12:03:58 +0000 UTC]
Why thank you sir, you flatter me!
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DontHeichouMeJaeger In reply to LolNoItIsCritique [2015-02-04 11:25:22 +0000 UTC]
And I have one thing for nicknames:
I think people should not give nicknames what are already for canon characters.
Like:
Humanity's strongest - > Levi
and Mike is 2nd strongest
"worth of a hundred soldier" - > Mikasa
or
"humanity's wisets" -> Hanji
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LolNoItIsCritique In reply to DontHeichouMeJaeger [2015-02-05 20:34:13 +0000 UTC]
Aaah, didn't come to think of that! Will be added, thanks!
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DontHeichouMeJaeger In reply to LolNoItIsCritique [2015-02-07 19:03:44 +0000 UTC]
Glad to help you out little bit.
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Hwiparam [2014-11-17 04:22:50 +0000 UTC]
Totally agreed
I'm kind of sick of all the mary sues... And you just can not say a thing because someone will tell you that you're wrong or the owner saying "This is my character and I do whatever I want with".
It is assumed that the heterochromia is rare, I saw many OC's with different eye colors, but... Red, seriously? I also read that someone put the word "shinigami" in a description. OC's can fall in love with canon, but not in reverse... And Titan Shifters... Dear God, people just can't remove the limelight from the protagonists...
When someone change the Canon personality to fall in love with the Original Character, come on, there's more life than love stories. Characters doesn't have to be romantically entangled with a Canon to be a good character. And I'm writing this knowing that my original characters aren't the center of attraction Maybe that's why people don't comment Personally, I don't like to opine about this kind of things because I feel bad for the other. But It's the true.
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LolNoItIsCritique In reply to Hwiparam [2015-02-02 12:02:23 +0000 UTC]
Good that you think the same way.
And.. who the fuck puts "shinigami" in such a description... hopefully they didn't take that serious themselves.
The fandom is getting bigger and more Sues are entering it. We should be preparing.
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HeroicRebellion [2014-10-22 22:00:15 +0000 UTC]
I have a few comments about your standards, none negative but some defensive
1. While I don't really appreciate fan shippings, I am interested in pairings and relations for my 2 favorite characters, Reiner and Bertholdt. I'm interested because I can (softly) smash it with their damning secret (only if they don't know it).
2. Heterochromia characters, though unnatural, can be applied to good characters. One example will be Oscar Ruenthal from Legend of the Galactic Heroes, though to elaborate will take time. I'll use it in a reply if you want to know.
3. Let's compare your standards to my oc, Robin LeFuer. First off, a quick note: she is actually inspired by Tsubaki, Eren's prototype so some things she can be excused from
A. The first 5 standards are more or less met
B. No nickname and no weight noted
C. Since I listed her as being an expert swordsman, I needed to put her in the top 10 so it can be proven. Of course, thanks to Connie, I had a scapegoat. That's the only reason I placed her there
D. She is not a dere type whatsoever, and she is just as determined (or psychotic) as Eren is (once again Tsubaki). In fact I even made placed her on the anti-morality wagon: specific act, suggesting Connie's mom was a criminal who deserved to die (and having very little regrets about it)
E. If it wasn't based on the prototype, this is where it would fail.
F. Finally she has no crush whatsoever, though admiration a would be a different story. Also, though she had a few run-ins with shifters, she most certainly is not one of them. (And before you ask, a) the backstory does show that she's way over her head? And b) it is explained why her story didn't affect the plot much)
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LolNoItIsCritique In reply to HeroicRebellion [2015-02-02 12:29:32 +0000 UTC]
Hey there. I'm not gonna post that long of a comment since I'm pretty lazy.
As said above, I do not want to offend anyone, who used some of these traits for their oc. And right now it is pretty hard for me to follow your defensive arguments.
Jumping to our second point: We are ONLY talking of the snk universe. So if you could give in-universe examples, not ones out of another fandom - that'd be appreciated.
Going on. Admiration indeed is a different thing, than having a crush. Running into shifters isn't a big problem either I'd say. Since she isn't one of them.
Well, once again saying, you don't need to be defensive over your oc if she only has a few traits that I have mentioned.
If she'd have ALL of them and more.. well then you should've done so.
Have a nice day now.
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HeroicRebellion In reply to LolNoItIsCritique [2015-02-02 14:56:27 +0000 UTC]
I know, I was just comparing my oc to the standards. And, believe or not she IS an SNK fan character (and based off of Eren's prototype no less). Thank you very much for the comment. You have a nice day as well
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Lyrical--Ammy [2014-10-21 20:59:51 +0000 UTC]
You are right about all of this, and I like that you mentioned the hair length. That was the first thing I noticed on this 'oc', and I literally muttered 'Titan gonna grab her hair and rip her fool head off.'
But yeah you hit the nail on the head with all your points.
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LolNoItIsCritique In reply to Lyrical--Ammy [2015-02-02 11:59:20 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, your opinion is appreciated!
Sorry for the late reply tho.
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