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The time was now. Pandora lay sleeping before him like an enormous housecat, looking deceptively harmless. Without giving himself time to consider any second thoughts, Moondancer struck. He brought down his arms violently, sinking his enchanted spear deep into her ribcage. Pandora woke immediately, and screamed-but Moondancer closed his ears to it. She deserved no pity. He forced the spear in deeper and twisted it-and Pandora writhed in agony, like a great serpent in its death throes-"Aiiieee!!-Ahh. Oh. Ow. Oh, that hurts. Owie. Oh, you're killing me." Pandora stopped screaming abruptly and spoke, calm and completely deadpan, and Moondancer felt his heart gripped in ice. She cackled wildly, the sound ringing in his ears, and he knew at once that he'd failed. Again.
"This is the best you've got? Seriously?" Pandora's eyes twinkled with mirth, despite the spearhead buried just shy of piercing her lung. "A sharp stick? Oh, how the mighty have fallen, Moondancer."
She gripped his spear in her paw, and sent a surge of magical electricity through it, such that he was blasted away from the force of impact, and landed in a crumpled heap. She advanced on him, unhurried, like a lion stalking a mouse. He watched, horrified, as the wound he'd inflicted on her closed itself up.
"But that should have-t-that spearhead was coated with Midnight's strongest poison-!"
"It's pretty rude to burst into someone's lair uninvited, you know." She interrupted, smiling. "Especially since I wasn't even doing anything. My plans for today involved napping and treating myself to a nice lava bath. But here comes Moony Moony Moondancer playing hero again, stabbing his dear ol' friend Panny in her sleep."
"We're not friends." Moondancer growled, struggling to his hooves. "We h-haven't...been friends since you...since you killed your own father-"
"Oh, was that where I crossed the line?" Pan yawned, stretching casually. "Melodramatic as always, dearie. I didn't kill Daddy, I absorbed him. Although if you want to get technical, I do suppose the process of that did kill him-"
"How could you? How c-could you bring yourself to murder-"
"Tish tosh." Pan waved her paw, dismissive. "He had power, I wanted it. It's not like he was using it for anything-doddering old fool had given up beautiful, beautiful chaos, and for what? To kowtow to you little pony simpletons?" She scoffed, before pausing in thought. "....I didn't expect my plan to kill him, though."
"Monster." Moondancer coughed, and felt blood wet his lips. Pandora's blast had done more damage than he thought. "Monster."
"This again? Urgh." Pandora rolled her eyes and huffed, like she used to, when they were still friends, and the world made sense. "Always with this lecturing, Moony-'Oh boohoo, you're a monster, oh waah, Panny, you're hurting ponies, you're not this evil, please stop this, blah, blah, blah." Her eyes turned cold. "You're boring me, Moondancer. And you know what happens when I get bored."
Moondancer did know. He'd seen the horrors for himself. He scowled up at her, searching for strength. "You can do whatever you want to me, witch. You can't stop justice, nor the inevitable return to harmony. In the end, the princesses will prevail-"
"The princesses have been absolutely useless since they transferred their magic to Princess Twilight. What a brilliant plan that was." Pan scoffed, rolling her eyes. "We all know the heat death of the universe will come before Mommy Dearest will manage to kill me. Her attempts are getting laughable. Mom tries her darndest, but when the time comes for that last blow-" Pandora threw her paw up to her forehead and gave a sad, doe-eyed expression, lip quivering. "Please don't do it, Mom. I'll be good again, I promise. I'm still your little girl-I'm still Panny-I'll be good again, I love you, Mommy-" She burst suddenly into wild, joyous cackles. "That's all I have to do! And that killing blow never comes! She can't! I killed her husband, I turned Equestria inside out, I forced her friends and family into hiding-but Mommy can't do it, because she still sees me as some dumb little baby cubbie that needs to be protected." Pan laughed fondly. "It's sad, really."
"She loved you." Moondancer felt his eyes prick, and hated his weakness. Hated that after all this time, he still cared. Numbly, he let the tears fall. "...We all did."
Pandora paused, and for a moment seemed bothered by something-but then shook her head, smiling wide. "Aww, how sweet. I love you too, Moony. Out of all the ponies in the world, you're my absolute favorite yarnball to bat around." She seized him suddenly with magical telekinesis, levitating him high up into the air-before dropping him. He hit the ground with a dull thud, and she laughed at his pained groan. "I'll never get tired of it."
Moondancer didn't answer, because something in his chest had broken, and breathing was beginning to hurt. At his silence, Pandora glanced at him with poorly masked concern. She leaned down and cupped his face, stoking tenderly at his cheek.
"Aw, poor baby, think you might have a pierced lung there. Did Panny play with you too rough? Come here sweetie, I'll heal you up good as new, and then we can play some more-"
Moondancer gasped for breath. "....C-Cupcake." He managed to wheeze. "Cupcake...."
Pandora froze. Her expression became guarded, and she lifted her chin. "What about her?"
"This isn't...w-what she'd have wanted..."
"Oh, I'm sure it isn't." Pandora glared. "But she can't exactly speak up now, can she? She's out there rotting in her grave, and it's all-you-ponies' fault-" Pan's eyes began to glow, and the area around them began to charge with a malevolent energy, like air before a lighting strike. "She was the only one who ever loved me for me-my only true friend-but you ponies couldn't even let me have that, could you? You were all so scared of me, and what a child of chaos might do-you were all so afraid that somehow, someday, I'd turn into a monster. As though it was my destiny." Pan bit her lip, now struggling with tears.
"The ponies came for me. At night, when we weren't expecting it, they came, and...and my...my Cupcake s-stood in the way."
Pandora tried to discretely wipe at her face, but Moondancer caught the act. She continued on, speaking more to herself than to him.
"She was so brave...always so brave...." She whispered, wringing her paws...before her expression switched to wrath, and she snarled.
"You wretched little beasts took her from me." Pandora seized Moondancer in her magic again, this time lifting him up to her face. "Murderers, all of you! Filthy, rotten little cowards! Do you know what it was like to watch my best friend-the pony I loved-bleed out in my arms?! My empathy evaporated on the spot." Flames erupted from the corners of Pandora's mouth, plumes of fire snaking between her bared teeth, like a risen dragon. Moondancer struggled feebly in her hold, fearing the fire, but she took her paw and gripped him tight around the throat.
"...You miserable little equines killed the one thing I cared about the most." Pandora's voice went low, quiet. Dangerous. "So now I'll destroy the things you ponies care about most. Your lives. Your loved ones. Your sanity. All of you-every rotten one of you-has something that can be taken away. And I will not rest until I've snatched it away from every single pony-until all of ponykind has paid for its great evil. I won't stop until Equestria rests in flames, and every one of your filthy, broken bodies lies burning in the wreckage." She leaned close, and Moondancer looked into eyes that blazed hot with hate-eyes that held no trace of the friend he'd once known.
The moment broke, and she dropped him, turning away. She spoke one last time, voice cold.
"Tell Mom to put that in a letter to Celestia."
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sloppy doodle is sloppy
so i mentioned over on my tumblr that my very first idea for Pandora was that she was supposed to grow up and become evil. Not harmless evil either-like, treating ponies as toys, actual threat to the world and reality as we know it-evil. That's why I named her Pandora-like the mythical character, she was supposed to unleash terrible things onto the world, and pretty much become the avatar of destruction, as Discord is the avatar of chaos. Anyway, I thought it'd be interesting to explore the idea in an alternate universe, and I thought it'd be cool to have Moondancer, of all ponies, be the hero, out to stop her. He's pretty determined, but evil!Pan is strong as shit, soooo his efforts aren't exactly going super well
Pandora isn't quite herself these days. When Cupcake was killed, Pan felt a piece of herself die, and she's been steadily going mad ever since. Her condition wasn't helped by absorbing (inadvertently killing) her father Discord, and having that great flood of chaos magic washing through her, twisting her mind....
this isn't canon btw, just an alt universe storyline (i call it the reverse AU)
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UnluckyAmulet In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 20:59:37 +0000 UTC]
True, Moondancer definitely does...though I meant it's something Pandora does in general, I wasn't comparing them specifically.
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catsglade In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 18:21:38 +0000 UTC]
So evil Pandora isn't canon, but uh... Cupcake doesn't die in canon, right? :c
Critique: you are REALLY good at drawing hooves. Not MLP style marshmallow hooves--REAL hooves. The wound on Pandora looks real, too. It's very difficult for many artists to capture a bloody wound with depth. My only concern is the shading. The light source seems to be coming from Moondancer's horn, but the shading on Pan's tail makes it seem like the light source is to the left of them. Otherwise, this piece is great! Again, the anatomy work is very impressive. Awesome!
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StashNFavesOnly In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 18:07:51 +0000 UTC]
Just a side note: does she have any pity on Cupcakes family? I just wonder
Since Cupcake was so protective of them too
If Panny at the very least swoops over them during her tirades?
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Lopoddity In reply to StashNFavesOnly [2016-12-16 20:49:49 +0000 UTC]
Hm, maybe. I can see Pan holding back a little on ponies she knew growing up. The Pie family, Fluttershy and her family, her mother Twilight...maybe terrorizing/antagonizing them a lot, but being too chicken to really hurt them (physically).
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Faileh In reply to LaVallett1 [2016-12-16 18:58:18 +0000 UTC]
they said they called it the Reverse AU
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LaVallett1 In reply to Faileh [2016-12-17 10:38:48 +0000 UTC]
I know. I asked if I can personally call it that.
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StashNFavesOnly In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 17:41:45 +0000 UTC]
I was SCREAMING by that last zinger holy FUCK I love your work!!! This is such a fucking cool AU I'm still shaking from reading it and I guess admittedly I'm still sympathetic to Panny here. It's not right to and I know it but I still get it. Christ though Panny is the coolest villain to me right now and it's not even canon.
No pressure at all but I hope to see some of the things she's talked about here, especially the deaths of Cupcake and Discord and the whole thing with Twilight.
Holy shit though. Put that in a letter to Celestia. CHILLLLLLS.
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josecarlosmunoz12 In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 17:34:25 +0000 UTC]
Well it's off for the hunt. Get your guns nukes to finish this
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CrimsonFangX666 In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 17:11:22 +0000 UTC]
I kinda want to see a picture of furious Pandora, as described in the story. That would be awesome, I think.
On to my opinions about the picture and story itself. The picture is great, I love the detail put into Pandora's flowing mane as well as the shines from their magic creating a glow on each other's bodies. The blood is a nice touch, giving those of us who didn't know your original idea for Pandora a sense of "oh shit she's actually hurt and in danger".
The story behind it is great. Detail is about as clear as you can get.
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TheodoraBMisfit [2016-12-16 17:01:58 +0000 UTC]
*thanking lucky stars that this is just an au*
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Katlover2219 In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 16:55:47 +0000 UTC]
It's CHAOS! Pure CHAOS!!
~runs away~
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Mikkillerib In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 16:44:45 +0000 UTC]
Woah woah woah. When did Lops universe get so dark?
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WikimediaXD [2016-12-16 16:34:54 +0000 UTC]
I LOVE THIS DISCORD. *-* (or something like that XD)
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Nelyasun [2016-12-16 16:30:33 +0000 UTC]
oh heeelp....she would be preatty dangerous then, and losing both Cupcake and Discord would be horrible
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GUILLE832 [2016-12-16 16:30:25 +0000 UTC]
Awesome picture, and I´m always down for any Heel-Face Turn story.
I was going to call out Pandora a hypocrite for being so pissed about losing the one pony who "understood her" and yet so casually killed her dad, the one who REALLY understood her. But I suppose that's the intention behind it.
But what rubs me the wrong way is the situation behind her corruption.
So, Cupcake gets killed in front of Pandora during a surprise attack, right?
And Cupcake took the metaphorical bullet for Pandora.
...
Why? I get that Cupcake is immensely protective of Pandora, but isn´t Pandora the daughter of a pony so powerful she might as well be considered a goddess and an actual god? That feels as if Lois Lane took a regular bullet for Superman, it just feels forced and doesn´t portray the character in the best light.
But hey, in the heat of the moment and with her military training Cupcake might have reacted like that, I dunno.
So, if Cupcake died in Pandora's arms... why didn´t she try to heal her? This isn´t bringing back the dead, this is just healing a mortally wounded pony. I´m pretty sure that enters the realm of Pandora's abilities.
Now, this one isn´t a complain, just a doubt. Did Pandora ever think of bringing Cupcake back from the death? I know she can try, the problem was some sort of cosmic power similar to having your head blown up. I´m mainly surprised she didn´t try that before going to the other logical conclusion and... kill everything.
It's an interesting concept, don´t get me wrong, and the picture is fantastic; I really the expression and details such as Pandora's flowing mane, but I fell the story behind it is poorly executed. I hope you don´t take this the wrong way; I´m just trying to share some constructive criticism with you.
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Lopoddity In reply to GUILLE832 [2016-12-16 21:10:04 +0000 UTC]
Cheapness in storytelling is relative. Sometimes things must happen in order for a story to exist. It's kinda cheap for Celestia, a monarch of a nation, to routinely put the lives of countless civilians in the hands of a neurotic bookworm, but if Celestia came and took care of all the bad guys herself, we wouldn't have a story, would we? Personally, I'd be fascinated by a scene where Lois Lane took a bullet for Superman. Love and emotion in the face of danger isn't always the most logical thing-Lily Potter begged Voldemort to spare her baby and kill her instead, as though that plan had a remote chance of working, even as Voldemort had promised to spare her.
Also, you seem to be under the impression that Pan can 1.) heal ponies from the brink of death, or 2.) resurrect the dead. She can't do either of those things. "I'm not a miracle worker". The general rule of Pan's character, to keep her from being OP, is that she's no more powerful than an alicorn. Pandora is not all powerful and can be harmed the same way Celestia can. The great irony is that she'd be somewhat capable of both healing and resurrecting now, now that she's absorbed Discord's power, in addition to her own. (Although a resurrected Cupcake would be no more than a rotting shell. Pan can't bring herself to do that.)
Soo...yeah. Ultimately, I disagree with your criticism, but you're certainly entitled to it.
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GUILLE832 In reply to Lopoddity [2016-12-16 22:11:06 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, suspension of disbelief and all that. I know you need that in order to have a plot. However, I don´t think your example with Celestia really works, since she's trying to teach Twilight and she knows Twilight well enough to trust her to do the right thing.
Oh, such a scene exist, you can check it out in here: static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub…
Again, it just feels dumb. If it was Lois taking a bullet for Clark Kent then it'd be downright tragic genius. THAT'D be a truly senseless sacrifice. However, when she does the same with Superman it just becomes a dumb sacrifice.
Lily Potter's sacrifice doesn´t quite fit this situation here either, because she knew that there was a remote chance of saving her baby from death by offering her own life. Here sacrificing herself only makes the situation worse and in no scenario could have been something positive. Whether she took the bullet or not, Panny would have survived. The only difference is that depending on what she did we'd have a dead Cupcake or a living one.
I can buy that she is unable to bring ponies back from the death. I was just making that assumption out of the conversation she held with Jasper in which she said that she could do it, but it would ensure some sort of cosmic punishment. Still, just an assumption so I shouldn´t treat it as a fact.
But about healing ponies... I don´t know, that seems pretty simple in comparison to what she can usually do. Then again, we haven´t seen that much magical healing in the show, so perhaps healing is somehow beyond what magic can do. Altering age, yeah, but not healing. Still, following the show's lore I can´t claim that healing magic is a thing, but I still have a lot of trouble believing someone as powerful as Panny doesn´t know how to heal wounds.
You're probably sick of me by this point, which is understandable; happens to me a lot IRL, but now you´ve raised a question...
If Discord is so much more powerful than Panny how did she manage to overpower him? I´d really like a picture explaining that or at least an explanation. I imagine some trickery must have been involved, but this hole scenario is full of holes.
Still, you're the artist and you're free do produce whatever art you wish, and most people seem to really like it, so maybe I´m just being the head of the fun police today.
Those are just some problems I´m having with this scenario; in order to obtain it you had to overlook a bit too much of logic for my taste. Still, don´t doubt I still love your work and I will continue to love it in the future with every new drawing you share with us.
Take care!
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SmilesPerHour In reply to GUILLE832 [2016-12-16 17:14:06 +0000 UTC]
It's the principle of the thing. Cupcake knew that Pandora could take the bullet much easier than Cupcake herself, but she would never have forgiven herself if something bad had happened to Pandora, and Cupcake just stood by and let it happen.
Also, I think that the wound that Cupcake suffered was so severe that not even Pandora's magic could save her. If not, Pandora would likely have been too overwhelmed with emotion to think of healing Cupcake. And yes, I suppose Cupcake could be 'resurrected' in one form or another, but she wouldn't be the same. she'd be more of a zombie, a shell of her former self.
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GUILLE832 In reply to SmilesPerHour [2016-12-16 17:31:38 +0000 UTC]
Again, it's literally taking a bullet for Superman; I´m gonna sound like an asshole for saying this but Cupcake died because she was an idiot. At least, that's what I can tell from the story that has been provided for us. Maybe I´m missing something, but for now that's what I think.
What kind of injury could a pony cause another pony that not even Discord and Twilight's freaking daughter couldn't heal? I wouldn´t have any problem if Cupcake had sustained an immediately fatal wound that killed her on the act, but seeing how she stayed alive long enough to die in Pandora's arms I doubt that was the case.
I can still picture Pandora being paralyzed with shock and unable to react, but I´ll take that with a grain of salt.
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Melani-Nexus In reply to GUILLE832 [2016-12-16 22:07:51 +0000 UTC]
Hmmm Since I see you accept to read others opinions on the subject, I will side with loppodity here. In resume for me: We don't have enough evidence by the moment to make such conclusions.
We don't know any of the real backstory behind this. It's like someone saying: Man crossed the street, was hit by a truck and died.
And someone calls the man an idiot... Well, the problems for me with your criticism lies on:
- You don't know if the man was careless when crossing this road.
- You don't know how active the "road" actually is to prove the man's stupidity.
- Nor if the truck was out of control to begin with and came out of nowhere.
What I mean is, you're saying that cuppy was and idiot, but it's generally very wrong to assume that someone will act on logical thinking under circumstances like that.
Panny is not a miracle worker as stated, probably this act of "treason" was well though off, or there would have to be some very extremist ponies to simply invade a place where the lord of chaos and an alicorn would be and try to kill panny... The bleeding time wasn't stated, she could have bleed to death in just some brief moments. And I think that Cupcake's loyalty would drive her to protect Panny without second though; And probably overridden by the feelings and panic, Pandora would freeze with her friend bleeding to death into her arms.
Soooo yeah, I don't think that without more evidence, your criticism has much of a backbone to stand on itself.
Sorry for the long rambling and the typos, btw.
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GUILLE832 In reply to Melani-Nexus [2016-12-16 22:39:12 +0000 UTC]
What I mean is, you're saying that cuppy was and idiot, but it's generally very wrong to assume that someone will act on logical thinking under circumstances like that.
Different people have different reactions to situations of stress, and I understand that. I am not stating, however, that Cupcake is an idiot in general; she's never given us any indications of this in the past and I´m sure that, if not a genius, she's at least of average intelligence. My point here is that she acted as an idiot and died because of this temporary stupidity.
It's like trying to protect a tank someone very close to you is driving from a bullet using your own body as a shield. It's an ultimately pointless effort because either way they wouldn´t have died, but now you're dead. Pandora is extremely powerful, and I really doubt she could be taken down by a bunch of regular conspirators. And no, being very extremist doesn´t change the fact that she's still a draconequus child of an alicorn and another draconequus.
I accept your point of the bleeding time started, or if it even was bleeding at all. I admit we don´t have a lot of details here, so I had to process under the assumption that whatever killed her
wasn't instantaneous. If I knew what method of murder was used then maybe I wouldn't have any problem with this, but with the vagueness that has been used (not saying that vagueness is bad, it just opens the possibilities to interpretation like we're doing right now) we can't really know whether she could have saved her or not. So, I accept that it could have been a quick death that still left enough time to hold her for a while. I still think Pandora could have saved her, but in her state of shock she could have been to nervous to think of that.
So I´ll concede that Pandora not healing Cupcake is plausible. I still stand by my point that Cupcake's sacrifice is merely for plot convenience and forced drama.
Don't take this personally, but you have the same amount of evidence that I do and you're making your own assumptions too and you have quite the backbone as well. Just saying.
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Melani-Nexus In reply to GUILLE832 [2016-12-16 23:14:11 +0000 UTC]
Sure, we both don't have any evidence... But as you stated, we're both making up things based on the vagueness ( What I think is really good for story building sometimes. ) The thing is, you have a point!
She IS the daughter of a draconequus and an Alicorn, but she didn't have full control on her powers, nor can she heal or revive someone ( as the author stated ). Just what bugs me about your hyphothesis on Cupcake's stupidity and "forced" drama, is that, with such a lack of evidence:
- We don't know exactly what means were used to try murdering Pandora.
- We don't know: Where, when and how it happened.
The When is important... How many years might have passed from Cuppy's death to this image?
So Panny is a tank... But what if someone was attacking this "tank" with missile? And Cuppy had the means to deflect it, even though she would be blown up to death in the process... 'Cause if she didn't sacrificed herself for who she loved, Panny the tank could have be "blown" up instead. And if Panny died, we could have at the very least a rampaging, full of hatred Discord... What wouldn't put us far from the actual situation.
So for now, my hyphotesis is: If those ponies really wanted to kill Panny, they wouldn't just throw pitchforks and torches at her. Maybe they used a powerfull weapon or spell in order to do so, and cuppy did act as shield.
What I mean is: For me, this was really good writen! And I'm having various "what if's?" coming up to my mind with how vague the backstory for the trigger event is for now. It just doesn't feels right to me to assume that Cuppy did it for shits and giggles 'cause she was dumb and it would trigger the Great Third War of Chaos! Just to prompt the story forward. It just... Doesn't fit for me.
Sorry if I seen to be overthinking things, I'm just quite passionate about stories; And I never get tired from making hyphotesis, nor from not taking the shallow explanation for the reasons that set the plot into gear. And I'm not taking it personally! Sometimes I just like to interact when my POV clashes with someone elses. Sorry If I'm being bothersome.
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GUILLE832 In reply to Melani-Nexus [2016-12-16 23:47:51 +0000 UTC]
No no no, it's fine. I love overthinking stories too, it's like 90% of the content in my brain.
Still, I´ll have to clear out a few things.
I've already dropped the idea of Pandora healing Cupcake because I lack a lot of circumstantial evidence to be sure of that. However, what I´m getting at is that someone who duels Discord on a regular basis, even if she still loses, shouldn't need someone to take a bullet for her. That's just what bugs me and why I feel it's contrived.
Once more I admit I´m making assumptions, but for the most part I have to because I´m basing myself of what I´ve got and not what I don´t. I don´t instantly assume the conspirators had something to kill Pandora because the author hasn´t hinted at it, and I wasn´t sure if she would continue this story line. This story, for all we know, had a beginning, a middle and an end comprised into one drawing, so I´m working with the knowledge the story that accompanies said image provides.
It's fun to speculate, it's one of the funnest things to do on the Internet about a story, a show, a series, etc that you're passionate about. But when the story requires the readers to fill up its plot holes then it becomes a poorly constructed story. One thing is inviting to speculation, another is expecting your viewers to write the story for you. I´m not saying that was Lopoddity's intention, not at all; these kind of things happen either accidentally or by laziness, and I´m not accusing her of this.
I mean, maybe there'll be another picture that expands into this AU and explains some of my questions, but until then I can at least point them out. As it is, I think it's a cool concept with a great picture, but when you go in a little deeper the whole thing starts to crack. I´m not saying people are stupid for enjoying it( I´m not that much of a douche), or that you shouldn't. I´m just pointing out what I consider is wrong with it.
Still, feel free to have fun with it; nobody is gonna stop you, specially not me.
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Melani-Nexus In reply to GUILLE832 [2016-12-17 00:12:25 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I agree with you! There are stories that are really... Really poorly executed. Things just doesn't add up, most of the time. But yes, even though I toke time to make such long replies and hyphotesis, I am just basing myself on speculations and letting my imagination run wild. ( I even though on the "treason" thingy, on the Reverse AU, but... It seemed like a stretch to mention. The story is not mine after all, lol. )
I just started my rambling, expecting that someday on the future, maybe we will get those loose knots tied up! I do love those speculations 'cause, she just posted this image, and look how far we already got just from reading a text and looking at an ( marvelous) image. Her art really inspires me. I think that for now it does starts to crack just because it still so fresh and has no other "fragment" to fill in the gaps.
Thanks! And I didn't want to look like I was opposing your opinion directly; Actually I really apreciate that you toke some of your precious time to explain your point of view to me ( That I understand better now). It's cool to be able to discuss your views on something with someone politely ( something that is getting really difficult to do on the internet these days. )
( Sorry if my phrasing gets out of context, I'm not very good at writing in english. )
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GUILLE832 In reply to Melani-Nexus [2016-12-17 00:37:03 +0000 UTC]
You're right; this picture did get us talking and speculating, which was pretty fun. We're literally making headcanons about the AU of another person's headcanon. So yeah, disagreements and inconsistencies are kind of inevitable here.
Hey, I´m glad I could talk to you. You're a pretty nice person to discuss with, and I admit I´ve been able to correct some of my initial opinions thanks to you, while still retaining my own, which is, what I believe, what every debate should be about. Learning about and understanding the other person's views as you transmit your own.
And yeah, polite discussion on the Internet is rare, but don´t fret; it´s always been rare Still, it's nice speaking to someone in good terms without taking someone disagreeing with you as a personal offense; I did have fun talking to you.
Also, don´t worry about languages; I´m a born Spaniard and English is my second language; I´m sure I've fucked up my grammar somewhere back there
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Melani-Nexus In reply to GUILLE832 [2016-12-17 00:55:25 +0000 UTC]
Well, if you did, I surely didn't noticed. But you know what does have even more inconsistencies?
The show canon vs comic canon vs book canon *cough* Someone stop them please. All that is left, is to cautiously pick the fragments and try to stick them together.
I also was able to adopt some of your view and compreehend better the overall picture you were painting about it; And I'm happy that at deviantart people seem to be nicer than into some others social sites like tumblr, facebook, etc.
Anyways, I also did have fun.. And I hope you don't think I'm a nosy person, but I kinda checked your gallery. Interesting reading material at the horizon! ( I'm really easy to catch when I see fanfiction just lying around, shining. I can't resist the urge to read. )
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GUILLE832 In reply to Melani-Nexus [2016-12-17 12:46:54 +0000 UTC]
No problem at all; galleries are for checking after all.
Yeah, I´ve got a few stories, but if you do read them avoid Son of Chaos like the plague. I kept it there in case someone had read and actually enjoyed it, but the story fucking sucks. It was one of my earliest works and it shows.
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Reifgrimm In reply to GUILLE832 [2016-12-16 19:27:33 +0000 UTC]
I would expect Cupcake to have been an idiot, to be honest. If Pandora pushed the ponies so far they tried to murder her and Cupcake was still blindly loyal to her, then yes, she probably was a complete idiot.
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SmilesPerHour In reply to GUILLE832 [2016-12-16 17:40:26 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry, I was just offering my viewpoint on the issue. Never mind.
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GUILLE832 In reply to SmilesPerHour [2016-12-16 17:48:19 +0000 UTC]
You shouldn´t apologize for sharing your opinion. You´ve done it respectfully and maturely, and that is something I respect. Even if you haven´t changed my mind I still enjoyed our short discussion.
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SmilesPerHour In reply to GUILLE832 [2016-12-16 18:06:02 +0000 UTC]
Likewise, thank you for being civil. I understand your argument, and while I have my own view on the situation, I respect your thoughts and opinions regardless. Have a nice day.
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GUILLE832 In reply to SmilesPerHour [2016-12-16 22:24:15 +0000 UTC]
Same to you, online stranger.
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revlp670svr In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 16:28:05 +0000 UTC]
Well evil panny with The Powers of discord canon be considered almost like a equestrian beyonder ( marvels Most Op being after The One Above all)
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SmilesPerHour In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 16:21:39 +0000 UTC]
* slow clap *
I salute you, Ms. Oddity, for creating a character that I loathe more than Tirek. Not just loathe, either; I'm actually afraid of AU Pandora. An unstoppable force of destruction with nothing to lose and everything to gain, who can't be killed, nor captured, nor reasoned with who is able to do whatever the heck she wants. Such a monster is more terrifying than any other AU in MLP lore, for this is the only version where the good guys don't stand a chance.
But what of little Oddball? What did he have to say of the death and utter corruption of his mommies? Or does Oddball even exist in this universe?
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Lopoddity In reply to SmilesPerHour [2016-12-16 16:33:27 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for your comment. Oddball doesn't exist in this AU. Cupcake died long before he would have been born.
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SmilesPerHour In reply to Lopoddity [2016-12-16 17:08:34 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for letting me know.
Also, if I may, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for all that you do, Ms. Oddity. Your artwork, stories and incredible imagination is an inspiration to all artists everywhere, especially me. Please, don't let anyone make you feel sad or inferior, because we, your fans will always be here to support you in everything that you do.
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Gmajloran12 In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 16:08:30 +0000 UTC]
Somehow I'm really not surprised at this turn of events, given Pandora's description of how the ponies of the reverse AU treated her. And to a certain degree, I can't say that I blame her for everything she'd done. Though she's still ultimately responsible for her own actions, the ponies created their own monster when they let fear and misconception get the better of them. So it's not that surprising that said 'monster' is giving them a taste of their own medicine.
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Grendelkin In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 15:48:49 +0000 UTC]
Welcome to the other side of the mirror darkly. 0_0
How did Moondancer wind up a hero in this 'verse?
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SmilesPerHour In reply to Grendelkin [2016-12-16 16:24:53 +0000 UTC]
How did he become a hero? My best guess is that nopony else was brave enough to fight Pandora, or rather, those who WERE brave enough were either dead or MIA.
Moondancer was Pandora's best friend growing up, and he figured that there was a tiny slip of a chance if he couldn't kill her, he could at least reason with her, remind her of what she used to be.
A vain hope, I'm afraid. Evil Pandora makes Tirek look like a shetland pony, and The Smooze look like a ketchup stain.
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Lopoddity In reply to Grendelkin [2016-12-16 16:14:55 +0000 UTC]
Twilight can't bring herself to kill her own daughter, so she asked Moondancer to. It's not a request either Moondancer nor Twilight took lightly.
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Grendelkin In reply to Lopoddity [2016-12-16 16:33:07 +0000 UTC]
I can imagine....
But how did he overcome his parental baggage, as represented by his biological father?
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Midna-Magic In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 15:48:35 +0000 UTC]
oh....wow.... O_o.... now THAT is an amazing AU...
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Heldoryn In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 15:39:21 +0000 UTC]
Oh sweet mother
This has become my favourite AU so far hands down
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