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I dunno if you guessed it, but I like drawing cute little ponies....fanart of a children's cartoon. And every so often, someone feels the need to tell me that my personal interest is stupid, childish, cancerous....."cringe-y". Boy howdy, do I hear that word tossed around a lot. Cringe, cringe, cringe. We're all afraid of making something cringe-worthy. Something that could end up in those lovely "Bad OC" cringe compilations. I see other artists, especially young creators, getting policed and attacked for creating something that could-gasp!- be interpreted as the dreaded Mary Sue. So artists stifle themselves. Can't make your OC too colorful. Don't you dare make them related to a canon character! Better watch that backstory, lest somebody decry your character as an edgelord. You can have a nerdy interest, but you better not be too fucking passionate about it. Watch yourself. Don't be too different. Don't be cringe-y.


So here's my question to ye gatekeepers of content, ye knowers of all things cringe-worthy, ye adamant enforcers of creative conformity...........Who cares?



Really. Why. Why is "cringe" an issue? So what if someone makes an edgy black-and-red OC, or a sparkly mary sue alicorn princess? So what if somebody makes up an over-powered self-insert and ships them with a canon character? So what if somebody dares to be unironically passionate about a fandom or interest considered less-than-cool? Who cares if people have imperfect, cliche-riddled characters they love?


Cringe culture is mean-spirited. It demands creators conform. It's perpetuated by people who, quite oddly, get really bent out of shape at the sight of people unironically enjoying harmless things.


I say forget it. Trample it. Let people have fun. Especially don't be cruel to young creators- nobody learns to be a skilled artist or writer overnight. And this is by no means a statement against criticism, even harsh criticism.....but there's a big, big difference between giving constructive criticism, vs choosing to crap on somebody for having a "cringe-y" interest. Clicking on someone's work to tell them that it's cringe, or cancer, or that they should kill themselves.....that's not criticism. It's cruelty. The only point of it is to discourage and shame creators, often young, vulnerable ones. There is nothing heroic or helpful about this behavior. This is what I am standing against. To make things clear, I am not anti-criticism. I am anti-bullying.


Idk. I'm a teacher with an Art Education degree, and I believe one of the most important things is to encourage people's interest in the arts, not push them away (out of a mean-spirited attempt to seem cooler by proxy). My favorite Mister Rogers quote (applies to artists of all ages):


"Do you like to draw with crayons? I'm not very good at it. But it doesn't matter. It's the fun of doing it that's important. Now, I wouldn't have made that if I just thought about it. No matter how anybody says it is....It feels good to have made something."


edit: adding in a relevant C.S. Lewis quote as well, on enjoying "childish things"


“Critics who treat ‘adult’ as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”





Join my Cringe Challenge here! Cringey Pony OC Challengefigured my last status would work better as a journal SO
I've got a little challenge for all my artists that love making MLP OCs~
if you want to, i'd sure appreciate if ya'll would design the "cringiest", most "mary-sue/gary stu" pony your brain can concoct, and submit your design to this journal in a comment. I'd like to do a piece about how cringe culture restricts our freedom as makers and consumers of content, so I'll be picking one of your "cringe" designs and drawing it! I'd like to make clear that this is not meant to be mean-spirited, your mock OC will be drawn respectfully, and hopefully be used to get those haters of "cringe-y OCs" to question why they feel the need to mock other people's harmless interests.
You can go however nuts you want. Break every OC-designing rule, design however you goddamn want. Wanna show me a rainbow-haired alicorn with jewel eyes and two sets of wings? Go for it! Make a black and red overpowered dark lord that cries ink black tears. This OC was designed by , their original (much better, lol) drawing is here:


edit: comments disabled because it's late and i'm tired, and some of ya'll are getting real huffy about a drawing of a rainbow horse with a flowery anti-bullying message. will probably turn comments back on later. For now i think i'm good on being told to kill myself. Great job convincing me cringe culture is totes necessary tho!

urgh

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Comments: 623

poppyrously [2018-07-11 06:52:36 +0000 UTC]

Girl this should be paraded EVERYWHERE!
I love your message. Seriously I'm tired with all these bullshit about "cringe" culture.

Also just to show my animosity towards some content creators who coined deviantart as the "cringe factory of the internet", I have to say, those people need to stfu. All they do is to steal content, shame those contents in their channel, and milk all the viewers from the like-minded people who think the same as them. It infuriates me how they look down on people just because they have OCs that are too edgy or too Mary Sue-ish.

Though setting that aside, I think the only people that are supposed to be policing OCs are the RP groups with specific universes and set of rules since the people joining are supposed to conform on that group. I think it's disrespectful when some people push their OCs in the group and get completely salty to the point of spreading hate to that group if they get rejected, but that's a different story. Though that being said, the admins of RP groups should also not be a dick when they're commenting on certain characters and take them lightly instead of flat-out insulting the artist for creating the OC and not complying for the rules.

I guess in the end it's all about respecting people of what they do (no I'm not talking about the respect that means to look at a person with high regard, but the acknowledgement of their ability of making decisions for themselves, which is also something I've talked about in this forum ).

Bless you and let's all hope for a future where this cringe culture can only be found in dead forums.

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Roxirin In reply to ??? [2018-07-10 09:38:26 +0000 UTC]

I agree. It's so sad to see young artists get discouraged by people telling them their OCs are 'cringey'. That being said, I do want to outline a secondary important point: There's a difference between telling someone their OC is bad for meanness, and offering them constructive criticism. There are good and bad characters. Of course, if it's your personal character, it shouldn't matter if by definition the character is not well-balanced in personality, or if it doesn't have a harmonious colour palette, or whatever else. As a character designer, though, I'm always happy to offer people advice on how to improve their characters; unless, of course, they WANT them to be a dragon-winged alicorn with rainbow hair. In which case, that's absolutely fine

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SilverNeko1 In reply to ??? [2018-07-09 05:59:03 +0000 UTC]

This is a very interesting (and definitely colorful) character, I love her so much!

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phoenixdragon In reply to ??? [2018-07-05 00:29:43 +0000 UTC]

I want to see all the cringey sparkly rainbow things

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Kari-1994 In reply to ??? [2018-07-04 05:54:58 +0000 UTC]

I love her mane.

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09099aazz In reply to ??? [2018-07-04 02:15:44 +0000 UTC]

I really hate the word "cringe" the very same people ruined it for me. They're the same people that just emphasize art by using words like "cancer" "I NEED THE BLEACH" and obviously "cringe". They just kept repeating it over and fucking over, especially in 2016 where it just made me loose faith in humanity. I kept seeing people attacking artists (including new ones) just because. They're not funny, they're just immature, closed minded, mouth breathers. It makes me so furious. 

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TamaTheLion [2018-07-03 16:19:03 +0000 UTC]

Thank god.

I've seen so many people complaining about this 'cringe culture' and making fun of so many people- especially in the MLP, sonic and lion king fandom.


Major respect for you for posting this and helping people get over this shitty culture.

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PlaguedocInk [2018-07-01 17:37:08 +0000 UTC]

 

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piixiev In reply to ??? [2018-06-28 15:38:21 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, all these comments against this message are just determined to destroy the positive point you're trying to bring across. Either that or they didn't bother reading any of description. Pay no attention to anyone who tells you to "KYS", they're really the ones who should be cringed at. 

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lilaarigs In reply to ??? [2018-06-27 09:39:50 +0000 UTC]

That's so op. NOW DRAW ONE ALL TO DO WITH WAFFLES!!

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SatansTeenageAngst0 [2018-06-27 04:06:54 +0000 UTC]

Whenever you come across some normie hatin' on your bizz, just do what our lord and master Jake Paul says and DAB on those haters, boi. 
 
(Typing this hurt me, I am the true cringe.)

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TROPICALSODA In reply to SatansTeenageAngst0 [2018-07-05 13:41:40 +0000 UTC]

your comment is just 👌

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X0m1n0usX [2018-06-26 05:20:43 +0000 UTC]

As someone who's had their art posted constantly on the same cringe comp twitter account for 3 years (which recently stopped), nearly destroyed myself because I thought everyone was against me, and was paranoid 24/7 and didn't wanna post LBP art for a while: I couldn't agree more with this! Finally someone talks about this.


Cringe culture is nothing but destructive, and what really upsets me is how often people confuse it with criticism (often constructive criticism) as if there's not a difference anymore. 

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LawrenceK [2018-06-25 23:55:21 +0000 UTC]

I dig the horse and the message both. 

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The-Nova-verse [2018-06-25 19:11:14 +0000 UTC]

#bless  
this needed to be said man. needed to be said. let peeps draw what make them happy. don't hear that around a lot. glad someone did!

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dragoline [2018-06-24 16:31:05 +0000 UTC]

Why would ppl call your art cringe in the first place? Sure, it's about colorful ponies and the show can sometimes be a little girly or childish imo. But your art is good and your characters and artstyle too. And I find ponies to be fun to draw. Even though I don't like mlp that much.

Anyone who hates your art can just ignore it.
Or even block you if they don't like it at all.

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Georgia1811 [2018-06-24 11:13:41 +0000 UTC]

i love this!

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Fangurl2000 In reply to ??? [2018-06-24 00:00:19 +0000 UTC]

Please teach me how to draw! I love your artwork so much and I love how you remade an already awesome pony! The hair and the wings looks amazing and I love the expression!         

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artist9795 In reply to ??? [2018-06-23 19:02:28 +0000 UTC]

Don't you have anything better besides ponies?

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buqwhore In reply to artist9795 [2018-07-10 07:46:17 +0000 UTC]

its their art, they can draw as many ponies as they want, its not that big of a deal

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09099aazz In reply to artist9795 [2018-07-04 17:06:46 +0000 UTC]

Hilarious considering your artwork of what i assume you call humans, is utter trash. Congratulations on missing the point of the artwork, moron. 

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SnowingThunder In reply to artist9795 [2018-07-01 03:50:09 +0000 UTC]

Wow, you really can't understand the meaning of this art right here.

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PastramiiPillow In reply to artist9795 [2018-06-25 03:58:45 +0000 UTC]

Don't you have anything better besides asking that question?

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artist9795 In reply to PastramiiPillow [2018-06-25 19:02:35 +0000 UTC]

Not really, Bronyfeg

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PastramiiPillow In reply to artist9795 [2018-06-25 19:44:04 +0000 UTC]

I love how you automatically assume that I'm a fag even though I've never seen or met you in person.  Just goes to show how prejudiced you normies are.  And quite frankly, it takes one to know one.

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KatipTolamun [2018-06-23 15:55:11 +0000 UTC]

I was terrified to draw any of my characters and you gave me the inspiration to join deviantart and actually post the art I made. Thank you so much for that Lopoddity! 

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Iskalt [2018-06-23 07:35:34 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for this, really gives me some confidence to do what I love and not let others' opinions dominate my thoughts.

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MauEvig [2018-06-22 18:28:55 +0000 UTC]

OMG YES! I applaud you for this. I got all kinds of bs when I was younger when creating OCs. Personally I never had a problem with "sparkles" although to be fair, they seem out of place in certain fandoms, but fine for others. But I say people do what they want.
She's lovely by the way. 

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Mickeymonster In reply to ??? [2018-06-22 17:10:57 +0000 UTC]

You're a teacher? O_O

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Lopoddity In reply to Mickeymonster [2018-06-23 10:01:18 +0000 UTC]

i kno rite, who let me have a degree


But ya, I'm a teacher. Not at the moment though, it's summertime and school is out~

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Mickeymonster In reply to Lopoddity [2018-06-23 21:51:33 +0000 UTC]

Should've figured from how good your art is. x'p

But I do agree, there's nothing as destructive as getting policed on how to have fun, that's the opposite of it. Everybody who just wants to draw should be able to draw whatever they want.

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PastAilen In reply to ??? [2018-06-21 22:41:13 +0000 UTC]

She is beauty and grace :3

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OCEC In reply to ??? [2018-06-21 16:42:00 +0000 UTC]

The mane looks like a rainbow lava lamp. 

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IsabelBrightlight In reply to ??? [2018-06-21 12:18:35 +0000 UTC]

In one of Russian social networks there's an actual group who call people with OC's connected to canon characters and/or alicorns - "faeries". They say they are "great critics" but they just trash people, "trying to cure" them. And what's more disgusting, that the admin of this group steals characters and sells them. Also most of the subs of this group are agressive as hell
I hate this group so freaking much

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QuantumBranching In reply to ??? [2018-06-21 07:50:20 +0000 UTC]

Not that I disagree with the overall message, but...

"So what if somebody makes up an over-powered self-insert and ships them with a canon character"

Frankly, I think _that_ one is more likely to draw the wrath of people "unironically passionate about the fandom".  

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luna150 In reply to QuantumBranching [2018-06-21 09:35:30 +0000 UTC]

But why? Why does that affect you? Why do you personally need to police them?

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QuantumBranching In reply to luna150 [2018-06-22 02:04:36 +0000 UTC]

I don't police them, Ms. AssumesBadThingsAboutOtherPeople. I don't even downvote them. I dislike making other people feel bad. I just really don't want to read them, and understand why other people get pissy about them. 

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luna150 In reply to QuantumBranching [2018-06-22 05:54:35 +0000 UTC]

"Frankly, I think _that_ one is more likely to draw the wrath of people 'unironically passionate about the fandom"

Gee, I wonder why I assumed! Completely out of a left field! My bad!

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MissShirisaido [2018-06-21 02:34:41 +0000 UTC]

Ooh so beautiful I love the way the hair is like all kinda goopy at the ends? You know?

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Chewy-Tartz In reply to ??? [2018-06-20 02:00:51 +0000 UTC]

holy crap the way you drew that is adorable!

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Lishadra In reply to ??? [2018-06-19 18:05:59 +0000 UTC]

I love this positivity!

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Ashaton [2018-06-19 14:46:04 +0000 UTC]

I think it's a beautiful idea.

Thank you for reminding me to not fear to draw, I was under the impression everyone would judge me, and with your intervention I can remember design is mostly fun and imagination. Thank you <3

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AnnabellePotter [2018-06-19 11:13:28 +0000 UTC]

While I was never bullied for my art skill (or lack thereof), I did encounter someone who managed to hurt just as much.

It's true that bullying is the major issue, and that creative criticism is welcome, it's also important to note to young artists that your art doesn't have to be PERFECT. I appreciate art programs and teachers who can make art fun for a child, but I also absolutely detest the people who try to go the other way and get TOO involved.

I had an art teacher that expected every student to turn in art that was practically professional grade. I am not a good artist, never have been and never will be, and yet I constantly got singled out by this teacher to "do better". What made it infinitely worse was that she GRADED the artwork.

This one teacher single-handedly nearly completely destroyed my interest and willingness to participate in art. The only saving grace was that the very next year, I had a new art teacher who actually conveyed the fun and carefree side of art, and the class wasn't crucial to our overall grade.

My point being, do what you love, and don't let anyone ruin it for you, whether by being too critical OR too "helpful".

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BellaExclamationMark In reply to ??? [2018-06-19 00:33:37 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for taking this stance, cringe culture harmed me mentally so much and I don't want anyone to suffer with it ever again, it's kind of one of the reasons that in the future I hope I can make a website for kid artists!! A safer place for minors to be as creative as they'd like without someone demanding that their art meets their stupid standards!! I still need to finish college and stuff though ehehehe but someday hopefully!!! 

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DracoScurra In reply to ??? [2018-06-18 19:40:28 +0000 UTC]

daaang. I'm 20 and STILL terrified of being put in cringe compilations. I have to fight to post a LOT of things due, or to not delete drawings because of that simple fear... I truly hope one day it gets easier TTuTT

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KareIchi In reply to ??? [2018-06-18 17:47:29 +0000 UTC]

I'm just sick of these animation meme cringe compilations that gets circled around youtube these past couple of year. Like, half if not basically all of them are made by children and then gets their video absolutely railed by a grown adult infront of their thousands of viewers. I mean shiiit if I found my art in a "artstyles I hate" or "Bad art" videos when I was 13 I'd stop posting my stuff completely.

Tldr Leave childrens art out of your shitty cringe videos

Also nice art

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MJKalasky In reply to KareIchi [2018-06-18 19:58:40 +0000 UTC]

Do the people saying such horrible things know it's children they're saying it about when it IS children posting it?  Either way, it's not right, but if they DID know they where saying it about children...

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mellowcollie In reply to ??? [2018-06-18 08:33:47 +0000 UTC]

This comment section is a dumpster fire so I might as well whip out some definitions to clear the waters a bit:

Criticism comes from a place of support. It's helpful advice for artists who's art has the potential to improve
in quality if said advice is followed. Of course not all criticism is good criticism and artists aren't forced to follow each and every
piece of it they get. But if it comes from someone with experience, who's judgment is to be trusted, who seems genuine, who truly, truly wants to HELP you to improve and who
makes you as an artist go: "You know what? You're right. I should change that and that in the future. Thank you!"
then that from of criticism is to be cherished.

STRAIGHT UP FUCKIN BULLYING is the exact opposite. It doesn't help artists improve. It makes them feel ashamed of what they've drawn and what they like
to draw. It comes from a place of malice, from a internal superiority complex or just a plan ol' desire to fuck someone's day up just because YOU personally feel like they deserve it. It's not constructive or intelligent. It's just plain mean.

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zody5 In reply to mellowcollie [2018-06-20 20:24:27 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry but that's simply not a correct definition of criticism you're whipping out. In no dictionary, be it Merriam-Webster, Oxford, Collins or Cambridge, does the intent with which a criticism is delivered have any bearing on it being definable as criticism. It does not need to "come from a place of support" in the slightest. As I've stated in another comment criticism and "straight up fuckin bullying" can absolutely be the same thing and I think that attempting to misdefine that bullying as not being criticism is less helpful than encouraging people to accept that some criticism just isn't ok.

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MJKalasky In reply to mellowcollie [2018-06-18 20:12:43 +0000 UTC]

The same thing could be said about how Halo fans have been known to treat the people at 343 Industires, or Star Wars fans with George Lucas for the prequals, etc (although eventually we get to a point where the creators in question are practically ASKING for it, after YEARS of either constructive criticism OR bullying have been going on, in cases like those).

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