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I dunno if you guessed it, but I like drawing cute little ponies....fanart of a children's cartoon. And every so often, someone feels the need to tell me that my personal interest is stupid, childish, cancerous....."cringe-y". Boy howdy, do I hear that word tossed around a lot. Cringe, cringe, cringe. We're all afraid of making something cringe-worthy. Something that could end up in those lovely "Bad OC" cringe compilations. I see other artists, especially young creators, getting policed and attacked for creating something that could-gasp!- be interpreted as the dreaded Mary Sue. So artists stifle themselves. Can't make your OC too colorful. Don't you dare make them related to a canon character! Better watch that backstory, lest somebody decry your character as an edgelord. You can have a nerdy interest, but you better not be too fucking passionate about it. Watch yourself. Don't be too different. Don't be cringe-y.
So here's my question to ye gatekeepers of content, ye knowers of all things cringe-worthy, ye adamant enforcers of creative conformity...........Who cares?
Really. Why. Why is "cringe" an issue? So what if someone makes an edgy black-and-red OC, or a sparkly mary sue alicorn princess? So what if somebody makes up an over-powered self-insert and ships them with a canon character? So what if somebody dares to be unironically passionate about a fandom or interest considered less-than-cool? Who cares if people have imperfect, cliche-riddled characters they love?
Cringe culture is mean-spirited. It demands creators conform. It's perpetuated by people who, quite oddly, get really bent out of shape at the sight of people unironically enjoying harmless things.
I say forget it. Trample it. Let people have fun. Especially don't be cruel to young creators- nobody learns to be a skilled artist or writer overnight. And this is by no means a statement against criticism, even harsh criticism.....but there's a big, big difference between giving constructive criticism, vs choosing to crap on somebody for having a "cringe-y" interest. Clicking on someone's work to tell them that it's cringe, or cancer, or that they should kill themselves.....that's not criticism. It's cruelty. The only point of it is to discourage and shame creators, often young, vulnerable ones. There is nothing heroic or helpful about this behavior. This is what I am standing against. To make things clear, I am not anti-criticism. I am anti-bullying.
Idk. I'm a teacher with an Art Education degree, and I believe one of the most important things is to encourage people's interest in the arts, not push them away (out of a mean-spirited attempt to seem cooler by proxy). My favorite Mister Rogers quote (applies to artists of all ages):
"Do you like to draw with crayons? I'm not very good at it. But it doesn't matter. It's the fun of doing it that's important. Now, I wouldn't have made that if I just thought about it. No matter how anybody says it is....It feels good to have made something."
edit: adding in a relevant C.S. Lewis quote as well, on enjoying "childish things"
“Critics who treat ‘adult’ as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
Join my Cringe Challenge here!
Cringey Pony OC Challengefigured my last status would work better as a journal SO
I've got a little challenge for all my artists that love making MLP OCs~
if you want to, i'd sure appreciate if ya'll would design the "cringiest", most "mary-sue/gary stu" pony your brain can concoct, and submit your design to this journal in a comment. I'd like to do a piece about how cringe culture restricts our freedom as makers and consumers of content, so I'll be picking one of your "cringe" designs and drawing it! I'd like to make clear that this is not meant to be mean-spirited, your mock OC will be drawn respectfully, and hopefully be used to get those haters of "cringe-y OCs" to question why they feel the need to mock other people's harmless interests.
You can go however nuts you want. Break every OC-designing rule, design however you goddamn want. Wanna show me a rainbow-haired alicorn with jewel eyes and two sets of wings? Go for it! Make a black and red overpowered dark lord that cries ink black tears. This OC was designed by , their original (much better, lol) drawing is here:
edit: comments disabled because it's late and i'm tired, and some of ya'll are getting real huffy about a drawing of a rainbow horse with a flowery anti-bullying message. will probably turn comments back on later. For now i think i'm good on being told to kill myself. Great job convincing me cringe culture is totes necessary tho!
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Comments: 623
rozenrotart In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:43:00 +0000 UTC]
YES! Cringe Culture is the absolute worst >:T
People who engage in it honestly need a REAL hobby and to learn how to let joy into their shriveled black hearts.
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gdpr-2852538 In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:42:46 +0000 UTC]
I admit, I have cringed at things I didn't like. But only to myself. If I'm clearly not the intended audience and I have nothing constructive to add, you know what I do? I say nothing and move on. The Internet is vast, I can easily find things within my interest and leave what I don't like to those who DO like it. I'm no judge over something clearly subjective.
I've had my own fair share of 'cringey' creations, even still today. I've had people tell me I shouldn't drawn certain things or OC's purely because THEY don't like it. Which I usually provide a middle finger about.
I have friends now creating things I don't find interest in, even cringe a bit about. But who I still wish to support, even if I go quiet when I have nothing positive or constructive to add when the issue is clearly that I'm just not the targeted audience anymore. Clearly they are having fun and creating what they love, it hurts no one. Just as I now create things my old friends have no interest in themselves.
People claiming they just "wanna help you grow as an artist" using a very subjective mold aren't any help. They seem to forget many people here simply draws out of joy and interest. They are not in art school to all learn how to paint a perfect copy of the Mona Lisa. We are here to have fun and just happen to have a chance to share what we create, in case we find mutuals who equally enjoy what we create, or help us grow with helpful advice or by providing new inspiration with their own ideas. HELPFUL advice if wanted, not "don't draw this" or "kill it with fire" or "you suck" and so on.
We are all here to have fun with what we do.
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09099aazz In reply to Rainbowfusion86 [2018-07-04 02:19:33 +0000 UTC]
Another fucking piece of garbage that think people should die for having humanity artists. How pathetic do you have to be to tell someone to die over that? Oh no let me guess, you're one of the socially inept morons that scream "CRINGE CANCER 11111!!!" all the time, am i right?
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DarkHeartMlp In reply to Rainbowfusion86 [2018-06-23 22:16:13 +0000 UTC]
How about you kill her? Are you afraid of getting blood on your hands?
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Nuclear-Powered In reply to Rainbowfusion86 [2018-06-19 01:14:17 +0000 UTC]
You're one of the reasons why humanity is dead.
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DistressedSpace In reply to Rainbowfusion86 [2018-06-15 17:07:02 +0000 UTC]
Are you seriously telling someone to kill themselves over a drawing of a rainbow horse? How desperate for attention can you be? Grow the fuck up.
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shotaisland In reply to Rainbowfusion86 [2018-06-13 07:41:18 +0000 UTC]
jesus christ dude, calm down
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CaninePrince In reply to Rainbowfusion86 [2018-06-13 07:37:34 +0000 UTC]
I don't think you have the higher ground with that icon of yours.
And yes, this came from a Pokemon fan myself.
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Amari-Strawberry93 In reply to Rainbowfusion86 [2018-06-13 06:53:59 +0000 UTC]
how about shut the fuck up and keep your KYS bullshit to yourselves
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Wolfless89 In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:42:14 +0000 UTC]
I support you and I agree, artists/cartoonists should draw what they like and not be judged by people who think it's cringy. It's their opinion and they shouldn't be affected by those negative opinions.
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fey-fae-whatever In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:34:55 +0000 UTC]
I have been needing to hear this all year. People think telling someone their art is "cringey" will make them better artists, but all it did for me was stunt my creativity for a year. I barely drew or posted anything for fear of being called "cringey." I had an oc a while back who was pretty bizarre, but I changed her and wrote short fanfics with my friend and although I never posted her on deviant art, I consider her one of my finest projects when I was that age.
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Willowfrost16 In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:31:33 +0000 UTC]
When people complain about how utter rubbish people's drawings are, I'm very tempted to say 'Well if you don't like it that much, why don't you create a better version?'
People think they're so much better than children. Little kids. "they cant even draw a head without using circle tool lolol cringee" is a comment that's 'cringe-worthy' itself. They're young children, of course they won't be as as skilled as someone who is much older, went to art school, etc. but that doesn't mean they won't improve.
They will improve if they keep trying. I will use myself as an example. I sucked at drawing at a young age, but now I honestly think my art isn't too bad. And don't go crying to others when that child you bullied and bashed them for their art is soon so much better then you.
Even if they aren't children, but rather older kids who want to get into art? Does that make them any less of a person if they're"bad at drawing but you shouldn't be 'cuz youre so much older than [insert young person here]"? No. Everyone starts somewhere, and no matter their age can be pretty damn good at art.
Moral of the story: Be careful who you call 'cringe' for their art. (at least i think that's a good moral)
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mint-smoothii In reply to Willowfrost16 [2018-06-13 06:35:19 +0000 UTC]
Irony that I agree with this yet my name is cringebot(it’s pointing to the fact my art is what people call cringwo
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LUvakitassomuch In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:30:57 +0000 UTC]
I wish I had those ideas!
Even if I have one I cant draw it as good as i imagined.
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Swiftstar01 [2018-06-13 06:22:21 +0000 UTC]
I simply can't agree even more! I all ways been...shy about my love for Warriors and Thomas and Friends for many years. I know my parents wont understand but I'm so glad to have a sister who is just as a big of a nerd as I am.
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NigeltheTaniwha In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:20:16 +0000 UTC]
'Cringe' is nothing more than glorified bullying.
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ShadowPupNova In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:18:43 +0000 UTC]
tbh this doesent look bad! i dont like it when people make fun of other oc`s and say that they are cringy,mary sues ect. and i watched videos like ``STOP MAKING MARY SUES!`` and things like that, thats why i threw away my oc Harmony Note because she was a so called ``mary sue`` because every guy liked her and she was luna`s daughter and a princess,best friends with twilight`s child and that is why i left the brony fandom and joined the furry fandom
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Retrodile In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:18:07 +0000 UTC]
I completely agree with all of this. I hate how hard artists, especially young artists just starting out are so critical of themselves bc of cringe culture. I've always believed in encouraging people and telling them their art is awesome, beautiful, etc despite their level or abilities, bc it's is so important to have someone rooting for them rather than tearing them down. I feel so incredibly heartbroken every time a young artist draws something and they put in the description how trash/terrible their art is and I really feel like a lot of that mindset comes from cringe culture. cringe culture destroys any chance of people improving because it just ridicules them for even trying. I've never liked it and it's just very unnecessary
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fey-fae-whatever In reply to Retrodile [2018-06-13 06:28:49 +0000 UTC]
I needed this comment and the picture more than anything for the past year. I've barely posted anything within the last year for fear of seeming cringey. I almost considered quitting art twice.
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Retrodile In reply to fey-fae-whatever [2018-06-13 06:54:31 +0000 UTC]
Don't ever quit art because of someone elses perception or opinion of your art dude. I do stuff on a daily basis that someone out there probably think is cringey but what of it man, I'm having fun and enjoying myself and everyone else should too. you gotta be kind to yourself dude, enjoy what you've made. if you need someone to root for you through your artistic journey I'll be here to root for you yo
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Spazknot In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:12:45 +0000 UTC]
As a fetish artist, I could not agree more with that statement. Always draw what makes you happy.
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SharaPikminCrossY In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:10:11 +0000 UTC]
I agree, just because their art looks like a 3 years old drawing doesn't mean it's cringey and all that. Atleast you can see them improve after few years later, I don't get how people are cringing and calling their art cancerous. Boi is that an art made out of cancer? No. I don't get it hh ;w; I just noticed this post at the front page, I'm glad I noticed it uwu
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VVerewolf In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 06:04:09 +0000 UTC]
I'm not gonna lie, I often stalk around your page just for the stories n' stuff..
I'm not a huge MLP fan, but I really like your stuff, and your art is absolutely adorable.
I honestly struggle to upload a lot of my own stuff because of this "cringe" bull that seems to show up everywhere.. So.. I guess what i'm trying to say is i'm glad it's being pointed out.
No one should feel ashamed for drawing what they like..
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gay-shimada [2018-06-13 06:03:26 +0000 UTC]
can i just say that god DAMN the colours on this are amazing
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ElErmita800 [2018-06-13 05:54:31 +0000 UTC]
I agree. I hate it when critics start trashing people's art and calling themselves "constructive", heck, I've seen critics harass innocent people because these people just wanted to have fun without being criticized on, to the point at least one of these persons had to quit because the "constructive criticism" was just getting awful.
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Hak0uri In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 05:54:03 +0000 UTC]
Dude I made a luna x sombra child and I never wanted to make her because she seems mary sue-ish but i also dont care because i like her a lot but yes i agree with the REST of what you are saying
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Lind-orm In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 05:53:45 +0000 UTC]
I pretty much agree with everything you say. As long as no one is being a asshole about what they create and are simply doing what they like. So is there no real reason to hate or dislike that person. I if you don't agree with what the creator does/make, and what she or he doesn't isn't something outright obviously bad. Then why not just move on and don't keep looking at said creators work? Instead of nagging on them without getting a response or getting a response and then forcing them to talk to you without most likely solving anything. Despite both of you ignoring each other would a lot more productive.
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Gwin2leane In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 05:48:06 +0000 UTC]
I once read a how to not make an oc.It bashed allot of people's styles and was just mean.One of the rules was,no adopted/orphan oc's especially if they have a background of abuse.Too cliche and not really believable or realistic.Oh so...my life story isn't believable or realistic?And amen.Cannot tell you how many times my old oc's on other sites got called Mary Sue's or edge lords because they were strong women who would express their own views and not afraid to fight.If your character wears black it's automatically some edgy teen preteen?And bright colors make the character to hippy/or gay?What do they want white and tan?
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Acat17 In reply to Gwin2leane [2018-06-16 19:17:14 +0000 UTC]
I litterally have both dark AND bright ocs. Even the dark ones are the silly ones and the bright ones are the dark ones sometimes. I dont get why people call everything they see that doesnt go with there rules cringe. Let everyone draw what they wanna draw. But you also gave a really cool speech!
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Gwin2leane In reply to Acat17 [2018-06-16 19:59:13 +0000 UTC]
Thank you.I truly believe artists and creative writers should be able to create their characters without a bunch of people insulting them.
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LeviaStar237 In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 05:43:29 +0000 UTC]
Love the colors and design! Excellent execution!
And yes, encouragement and positive criticism is the best decision to make instead of tearing someone down. Harsh words never benefit anyone.
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dragonfoot455 In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 05:40:17 +0000 UTC]
Yes there are youth with underdeveloped characters or art. Who cares? We all start somewhere. If you criticise someone based on skl or "mary sure etc" then you should take your shitty attitude and toss it in the trash where it belongs.
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IllusionsMadeReal In reply to dragonfoot455 [2018-06-13 05:45:48 +0000 UTC]
If I caved to that, my leading lady would have been axed and needlessly nerfed just because she's "too powerful." The way I see it a character is only "too powerful" if they can one hit kill the main obstacle of the story...or if they can you got to make sure circumstances conspire to KEEP them from doing that...at least right away.
Saitama from One-Punch man wouldn't be who he was if one of the ethos of his design weren't adhered to. You can't have One-Punch Man if Saitama can't kill God in one punch.
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SylveonsRibbons101 In reply to SylveonsRibbons101 [2018-06-18 15:36:56 +0000 UTC]
guy i understand you didnt udnerstand me here read my comment on this drawing i have an reason to why i said it
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LittleSlimy In reply to SylveonsRibbons101 [2018-06-13 05:56:45 +0000 UTC]
www.urbandictionary.com/define…
True is not a word but a slang.
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FrickTP In reply to SylveonsRibbons101 [2018-06-13 05:42:03 +0000 UTC]
Uh... I get where you're coming from but cringe is a word.
Just not in the way people are using it
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DemonLouie In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 05:39:04 +0000 UTC]
Well said, I got one of my Louies RPG 2 characters bashed on because he
had a gun. A simple weapon. Was I asking them to look at it? No. To
be honest people should stop that crap, no one is perfect, no one
deserves to be treated in such a way that makes them not want to
do anything.
While I do agree that no one gets better overnight, they still have
potential with their work. I believe that everyone in art could get better
if they practice. It's what I've been going for is getting better
and I would encourage that.
It never hurts to draw, try and practice.
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Teakwii In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 05:35:30 +0000 UTC]
This post: don't bully people. Don't feel bad abt ur art
Confused people: is this, again s t critisism???
Probable bullies in denial: you need to feel bad abt yourself to Improve
You definitely
Do not need to have people tell you your character is "shitty" and "cringe" to improve
Yo u know what helps people improve??? Encouragement??? Support??? You letting them ride out that cringey oc and love their best life and improve naturally???
You know what people do when they love their art and cringey oc?
Start revamping
And learning
And changing the oc
Or making new ones that are "better" but keeping it because it makes them happy and that's what matters
U telling someone their oc is cringey isn't helpful just like
Lol
It's just gonna make them upset and a lot of people q uit then
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S0L0ngP4rtn3r In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 05:24:32 +0000 UTC]
I like how people are missing the whole point of this lol XD
great message and fabulous art as always, Lop. You're seriously a pillar of positivity.
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Lopoddity In reply to S0L0ngP4rtn3r [2018-06-13 05:42:48 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. XD Yep. The message.....I can hear the whoosh as it sails right over peoples' heads. "You mean I shouldn't tell people their harmless passions are actually cancer? What is this anti-criticism nonsense?? That's the only way to help them grow as artists!"
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