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LoreC10 — A case of mistaken identity
Published: 2015-05-09 22:35:00 +0000 UTC; Views: 2087; Favourites: 22; Downloads: 7
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One day Yugoslavia and Romania were walking in the street, suddenly they hit each other none of them seeing coming the other, apparently everything was ok but then the two noticed that they exchanged their identities.....Ok, now talking seriously, what sort of changing could take a similar situation in recent history? The slavic and the romance families would be more territorially continue (lorec10.deviantart.com/art/Mod… ) and this might increase the probabilities of an union of countries from the same family.....
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Comunque se posso precisare, hai dato Trieste alla Romania xD
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non era sicuramente mia intenzione
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Hmm so would Yugoslavia still be split up between different Ethnicities: Slovenes, Serbo-Croatians, Kosovars and Macedonians and Identities: Croatians, Serbs, Bosniaks, Montenegrins, and Vojvodinians or would the split happen to Romania with new ethnicities and identities? Can I create a map for how this would work?
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Mmh, it depends, this map is not a an AH scenario itself, this is more like a particular event (the territory exchange between the Romanian and Yugoslavian populations) that could be applied to many different and more complex AH scenario.
Said this, what I personally imagined as possible scenario was that after world war 2 Stalin decides to make this change, respecting, anyway, the original ethnical and identitarian situations and thus preparing different Romanian provinces for different Yugoslavian ethnicities and identities, also, I figured out that only the Yugoslavian and Romanian populations could be the subject of this exchange, not the ethnical minorities in this two countries (Szekelis stays in Transilvanya and Kossovars stay in Kosovo).
Nevertheless other possibilities were also proposed, for example one where different migrations occurred during the period of babaric invasions, having the effect of making today ex-Yugoslavia Neolatin and today Romania Slavic.
To aswer your second question I say that I'd be very glad if you created your own map, ans by the way thanks for the watch
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Very interesting and you're welcome.
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So instead of a persistant "Daco-roman" culture in Romania, we would've keep a Dalmato-roman culture in Illyria, that would've been very interesting 
So Italians nationalists would've probably consider their language as dialects ^^
And the bella Ragusa would've been yours
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The point of divergence might be in the Middle Ages, keeping, in this way a Dalmato-Romanian language alive but it could be placed in recent time too, we may imagine an exchange of population like it happened in India and Pakistan due to religious matters, in this way there would be now a Daco-romanian language, alias Today Romanian, this event might be explained with the desire of Russia to have all the slavic peoples near and territorially "united"
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A medieval point of divergence would've been more human, and I tend to prefer diversity, with the both Romances languages
A modern point of divergence would've need fascists government's in Pan-slavia & Pan-Romania too (or weaker Romances countries), because if we were democrats, we would've prefer to be at war with Russia, than to agree with this kind of exchange.
India/Pakistan & Greece/Turkey weren't enought powerfull to try this kind of war.
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there's no doubts that the modern days alternative is more cruel and extreme....thought i think that absolutist Russia might had thought about it if only they had an hint of this plan, after all they had no problem in draining Aral sea or expelling German after WWII, just to report some of the absolute behavior of USSR....
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Well, Russia could've done that if they win a war against us yes, like they defeat Germany, but we would've probably lose both Romania & Dalmatia in this case :-/
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well both Romania and Yugoslavia were under USSR influence, if not control, so maybe they could do it if they wanted or had the idea of it...
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I wonder if the South Slavic linguistic continuum would be same as OTL, as well as the relationship between Aromanian/Romanian and Dalmatian languages.
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what do you mean? if nothing changed?
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well...that's normal history....
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It would´ve been better for both, cause they´re not so isolated, yet the identity and culture
would be very different for sure. Maybe Italy would´ve tried to conquer them later?^^
Definitly they would´ve tried to get it in ww 2.
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indeed, there would be for sure more cultural unity, that would be, in my opinion much better......probably Italy would have tried, even thought i'm not totally sure about that, to conquer them, anyway if Italy didn't succeed in doing it, personally i would have been much happier to give venezia-giulia to romance cousins than to slavic people
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Haha yeah sure, I always wondered how the Slavics could conquer half of Europe
within 1 century, I mean before the 6th century they lived only far in the east oO
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that's simple! those regions were almost inhabited and slavic peoples took the advantage to settle them even by using strength and kicking out, killing or exporting their culture, to previous peoples, that used to live those lands....you know what's funny? here in Italy they teach us that the cruel barbarians who teared down the glorious roman empire were just Germanic....thought it is not totally true, even Slavic played their role, and sometimes it was even more barbarian and cruel!
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Yes that countries were inhabited, but how could they get so many children to fill it all up,
after the Germanics left? XD Tho I read of course never 100% left, rests were left behind.
I´m sure there were many tribes who were brutal, they were not very civilized. Tho also
many admired the roman culture. I even read the Vandals wanted to possess the roman culture
and cities not destroy it.
Tho I would never excuse what happened, my ancestors clearly were barbarians^^ But to defend them
Rome was also very often an aggressive military dictature and peoples who wanted freedom had no choice.
But a patriot can accept dark and light sides of his history. Cause truth is what we want not idealistic lies.
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Well you know there were many century to fill those territories up, they had time
i didn't know Vandals were so civilized, that's wired because we say in Italian vandal someone who destroys things, anyway something good to learn!
German temperament didn't seem very changed until 1945, ahahahah just kidding, of course your culture evolved a lot in centuries
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We also say Vandalism, but that word is a 18th or 19th century creation in France,
before noone connected them with it XD But to fair, huns and mongols were way worse.
Pfff, to be here fair, too, the Germans were still a young folk in that age, I´m sure the Italians
were less civilized too in their tribal age 
What I also heard, it was good that the Roman Empire fell and we got many bigger empires in rivalry,
cause it made them develop better and better. The Roman Empire had over 1000 years, China over 5000
and yet noone ever got industrialisation.
And the post roman Europe only needed 1500 years to reach the moon (with the son America^^).
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yeah, of course Germany developed a high culture, it gave an enormous contribute to industrialization in XIX, German technical object were the absolute best
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Italy too, fine cars, great arts, the roman culture on which Europe is based!
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Do u think there is even any chance to identify with the Holy Roman Empire?
I mean Germans and Italians were several centuries in one Reich!
Also I like the picture "Germania and Italia":
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…
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So the Romance speakers stayed in Dalmatia/Illyria and the White Croats/ Serbs moved into Romania? Intersting
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yes, it might not be compulsory an alternate history, we may talk of exchange of population too in recent period, like in india-Pakistan, even though i reckon that it would be quiet extreme...
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