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19" x 27" mixed media drawing in pastel,acrylic and charcoal...06/2005,recovered and finished in may 2006.
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REDROOCOMICS [2010-03-03 08:48:39 +0000 UTC]
Very nice, like what you have done with your chosen media.
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xSerenax [2007-02-28 17:59:35 +0000 UTC]
very sensual capture of bondage and the ideas wherein.
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natashalyonne [2006-09-18 18:32:28 +0000 UTC]
hey. danke für deine nachricht auf meiner seite. hab mir deine angeschaut und sehe du bist auch aus deutschland. es freut mich, dass du meine sachen magst. zu deinen.. ich weiß den (nackten) körper einer frau in ästhethischer und überhaupt jeder hinsicht sehr zu schätzen. aber deine bilder sehen für mich, in meinen augen etwas.. sexistisch aus. als wenn pornobilder die vorlage gewesen wären. und pornografie, jedenfalls die 08/15 pornografie die wir alle wohl oder übel kennen, steht zu recht nicht gerade für starke frauen sondern frauen, die reduziert sind auf körperöffnungen und -funktionen. wie stehst du dazu? wie siehst du deine aktbilder in diesem kontext?
liebe grüße aus wiesbaden
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Lost-in-decay In reply to natashalyonne [2006-09-18 20:20:09 +0000 UTC]
Hi,puuuh,zu allererst mal ein Danke für das Statement,ich weiß Kritik natürlich zu schätzen.
Solche Kommentare bin oder war ich eher von Kunstnet gewohnt...
Nun ja,schwere Frage,wie sehe ich meine Bilder in diesem Kontext,ich sehe eine schöne Frau,eine reizvolle Vorlage,ob hier von einem Devianten oder auch in den Weiten des Internets und male dann.Der Grat zwischen Ästhetik und Pornographie ist da sicherlich schwer einzuhalten.Tatsächlich sind meine etwas älteren Bilder eher letzterem zu zuordnen,obwohl es da sicherlich einiges heftigeres gibt.Außerdem liegt es immer im Auge des Betrachters.Was ist Kunst,was Pornographie.
Auch liebe Grüße aus Gelsenkirchen
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natashalyonne In reply to Lost-in-decay [2006-09-18 22:38:19 +0000 UTC]
najaaa.. aslo heftigeres gibt es immer, das ist keine entschuldigung ich finde es nur schade, dass erotik so oft mit schwach aussehenden frauen assiziiert wird und dass dieses eigentlich perverse ideal von so vielen, auch und eben besonders künstlerInnen reproduziert wird. meist unreflektiert. das find ich schade. aber man kriegt auch immer nur den einen reiz zu spüren. gefügige frau = sex.
starke frau = sex mit angst, erniedrigung oder abartigkeit die nicht sexy sein kann.
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Lost-in-decay In reply to natashalyonne [2006-09-19 04:31:34 +0000 UTC]
Aber du kannst doch z.B. in meiner Galerie das typische Verhaltensmuster unser Zeit beobachten.
Meine bisher einzige "Daily Deviation" bekam ich für "Bound",ein Bild was ich selber überaus schwach finde und eigentlich nicht mag.
Dieses Bild hat 157 Favoriten und wurde ca. 6000 mal angeklickt.
Meine Portraits dagegen dümpeln vor sich hin,da nimmt man gerade am Rande Notiz von.Sobald ich allerdings mehr "Fleisch" zeige,schießen meine "Einschaltquoten" hoch.
Es stimmt halt unwiderlegbar: SEX SELLS !
Wenn ich also hin und wieder etwas verkaufen möchte,muß ich etwas erotischer zeichnen,auch wenn ich lieber Portraits male.
Ich schwimme da mit dem Strom,keine Frage, und bediene das Klientel welches diese Art von Bildern,Pinups etc mag.Ich kann nicht verleugnen,das es davon nicht gerade wenige gibt.
Dennoch versuche ich aber auch meine Frauen ästhetisch aussehen zu lassen!Gelingt mir nicht immer,aber ich lerne nie aus !
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natashalyonne In reply to Lost-in-decay [2006-11-04 19:21:38 +0000 UTC]
schade, dass du einsiehst, dass der frauenkörper in einer sexualisierten gesellschaft ausgebeutet wird, du aber trotzdem keine andere linie fährst. sowas tut mir immer am meisten leid. vielleicht ändert es sich irgendwann nochmal
und was die ästhetik angeht: da will ich gar nicht widersprechen, um die geht es mir auch nicht unbedingt. auch ausbeutung kann ästethisch dargestellt werden.
leibe grüße
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glamorous [2006-06-25 09:45:21 +0000 UTC]
why is this a dd. really. -probably had this comment a million times, so shuts up before getting into a rant.-
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MountNeverest [2006-06-21 06:45:19 +0000 UTC]
It's funny how the featurer calls this "traditional" art. Breaks most traditions i know. but yeah, it's a good emotive, sexual painting
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kakashi101 [2006-06-21 02:30:27 +0000 UTC]
What I want to know is what you have to do to be allowed to be over looked for the rules. I would want to post lots of porn on my page...but I follow the rules about the whole 'no porn rule'. What are you doing to get a DD of huge breasted blond women in S&M?
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Rifus-Kurueruchi In reply to kakashi101 [2006-06-21 03:33:05 +0000 UTC]
nudity is allowed, not porn, read more closely. lol
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kakashi101 In reply to Rifus-Kurueruchi [2006-06-21 03:45:33 +0000 UTC]
So an S&M photo is NOT porn? Huh.
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Jade-Pandora In reply to kakashi101 [2006-06-21 06:28:15 +0000 UTC]
S & M (as well as B & D) is a fetish practice (and lifestyle). The way it's represented can seem pornographic to the uninitiated, and many of us who practice fetish understand the reasons why you think & view things like this as you do.
i hope you'll accept this respectfully as it's meant to be respectful to you. This is a fine rendering in its accuracy. Yes, the subject matter is misunderstood due to blatant stereotypes. Please be assured that this piece is not pornographic, but it's objectionable to you because of how you perceive porn, and how you perceive BD/SM.
Blessings to you and all who read this.
*an aside to the artist* The more i look at your work the more i'm joyfully in awe and am glad your piece was recommended so that more of us could know about you!
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kakashi101 In reply to Jade-Pandora [2006-06-21 06:32:16 +0000 UTC]
I gotta know- what's B&D?
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Jade-Pandora In reply to kakashi101 [2006-06-22 02:43:21 +0000 UTC]
i'm happy to reply:
B (Bondage)
D (Dominant)
S (Sadism)
M (Masochism)
And when you (and others who see this who are curious) have the time, i invite you to click here [link] to check out a wonderfully indepth source with definitions, and links to so much more. i hope at least this way you'll get a better idea, even if you never do anything else with the information.
i'm always happy to help. Take care.
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Demile In reply to kakashi101 [2006-06-21 05:53:33 +0000 UTC]
Nope. It's fetish, simply stated. Now if she was spreading her pussy lips for the world to see then it could be considered porn.
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Demile In reply to kakashi101 [2006-06-21 16:21:36 +0000 UTC]
Yes, you have been enlightened now.
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Migitmd [2006-06-21 02:10:36 +0000 UTC]
the only time your going to get burned at the stake about having this type of drawing in your favorites is when someone views it and in reality, can't see past their own nose.
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Migitmd [2006-06-21 02:06:23 +0000 UTC]
After reading some of the comments put here, i really don't see what the big deal is. Get past her breasts being exposed, and seeing it as pornography. there are actual photographs of naked people on this website. There are air brushed people on this website, fully nude, so please, show some maturity.
To comment on the talent and actual artwork, the leather is nicely done for the style. The texture, lighting affects and tone are also well done. her hair is well done, with variations in shade and looks like hair. the only thing i have to critize is the facial expression. I'm not sure what she is feeling at the moment.
Artistically, its good. But some people can't seem to get past the fact that it has nudety in it. oh well, sucks to be them.
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rhesusmonkey [2006-06-21 00:49:24 +0000 UTC]
Well this was bound to get honored eventually.... har har har
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sharpiechick [2006-06-21 00:45:00 +0000 UTC]
Hm. Don't crucify me for this, but I must lack the kind of artistic eye needed to appreciate this piece. Maybe I'll pick it up along the way (I'm still learning, of course), but to me this looks like well rendered soft core pornography.
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rhesusmonkey In reply to sharpiechick [2006-06-21 00:51:15 +0000 UTC]
But if it's well rendered, and you can appreciatete that, then what's hanging you up is the subject matter, which, while perhaps not appealing to you, certainl;y made an impact... I dunno, I think you do have the eye to appreciate this, although perhaps not in the "warm fuzzy" sense...
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sharpiechick In reply to rhesusmonkey [2006-06-21 03:48:34 +0000 UTC]
I don't think I've made myself clear... I can appreciate the artist's skill in his technique. I even appreciate good leatherworking (I've worn a bit myself, and it wasn't all jackets and pants). However, of this artists gallery, this is not the one I would have chosen for a DD. It's inspiring mastery of the media, but I'm not entirely impressed by the composition. That's where I think my education might be failing me. The piece lacks something... Maybe it's the washed out background or the pose being so ... typical. Compared to some other pieces in the artist's gallery (for example, [link] or, my personal fav. of the gallery, [link] ), this is downright ho hum.
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rhesusmonkey In reply to sharpiechick [2006-06-21 14:40:03 +0000 UTC]
I often find myself wondering what inspires the DD nod, I see what you mean
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GoldenLordFreeza [2006-06-20 23:32:55 +0000 UTC]
Thats awesome work you've got there!! Keep up the great work!!
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gdpr-1510289 [2006-06-20 22:40:55 +0000 UTC]
Thats, das verbinden sehr gut ist hier, besonders für ein traditionelles Stück.
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bleedingmirror [2006-06-20 22:07:47 +0000 UTC]
Eh.
You have much better pieces in your gallery, and from the looks of pieces like The New Secretary and Michelle, you definately know how to draw. But your subject here just looks... plastic. The leather is good, though. The tendons in the neck look unnatural, and the hair looks like a wig- it all just flattens against the scalp in a smooth line.
While I can understand some of your other pieces getting a DD, this one just doesn't look like you really put your heart into it as much as you did some of the others.
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rebelfemme [2006-06-20 21:56:02 +0000 UTC]
Good grief. A lot of comments. Well deserved of a DD I think. I have the impression that she is smiling behind that gag. Tell me, is it from a life model, or an imaginary creation?
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blackvragor In reply to Demile [2006-06-25 03:05:28 +0000 UTC]
you a rude little monster. If you're going to criticize traditional artwork, YOU HAVE TO BE GOOD AT IT OR BETTER MORON!
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Demile In reply to blackvragor [2006-06-25 05:35:45 +0000 UTC]
I believe you owe me an apology.... my comment was replying to "q3minus5" who said "This sucks... get a life." TO THE ARTIST.
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blackvragor In reply to Demile [2006-06-25 06:43:16 +0000 UTC]
*looks* oops, yah you're not the same person. Sorry about that. Rude people tend to respond to comebacks and I thought you were this guy. Yes I do owe you an apology, sorry.
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Gothic-Dead-Doll In reply to q3minus5 [2006-06-20 23:05:54 +0000 UTC]
You know you could be a little kinder. I'm gonna say the same thing about your art work. I think it sucks. Wiremouth looks gay and the detail pictures suck as well.
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