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LucasHC90 In reply to KeirTanaka [2019-02-20 02:12:37 +0000 UTC]

First: Line Trap was a nickname coined by 4chan which Bailey Jay herself fully embraced, since it launched her career as a "passable" transsexual (which, if I'm not mistaken, its THE goal for most pre and post ops trans of any gender), so much so she made a movie with Grooby Productions in 2010 entitled, you guessed it, "Bailey Jay is Line Trap". So I'm not seeing anything demeaning, objectifying or buzzword buzzword here... more like an empowered transsexual that fully embraced this part of her life and fully aknowleadges that there is an entire industry for people like her.

Secondly: I'm all for the old saying "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" (more like "but chains and whips excite me" in my case) so... your words are really falling on deaf ears when you preach to me about forbitten words, specially "objectification" while your favourites gallery is full of pencil-waisted, extremely busty half naked women. It would be a blatant hipocrisy on your part if you claim to value those images because of the vast knowleadge on quantum physics and applied economics of their subjects while you would like to known them on a deep, platonic-like level instead of a just "dayummmmm, I want to shag this Amazon goddess all night long!".  

Thirdly: as far as biology is taken into consideration, every cell in Bailey's body, SPECIALLY (and ironically) her sperm cells have XY chromossomes, so she is and will forever be a biological male. That fact does not prevent me from using any of the two gender pronouns she is more confortable with to refer to her, but I will not re-write basic biology for the sake of sensible snowflakes that can't live on the real world without "getting" PTSD over low quantities of soy in their latte... specially if the girl still has a penis that could be as bigger as mine.

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KeirTanaka In reply to LucasHC90 [2019-02-20 06:52:46 +0000 UTC]

First: I never knew what a "Line Trap" was which is why I only stuck with critiquing the base word "Trap" here but it doesn't really matter what a porno trans accepts because it filters down into non porno trans people who don't accept terms like shemale primarily, tranny secondary, ladyboy, dickgirl, newhalf, futa(nari) & hermaphrodite <--which was an acceptable term but has been bastardized through gratuitous misuse which leaves us with the only truly acceptable somewhat universal term intersex|

Second: ...but it's not all about you as I've seen this vocation echoed throughout your comms so I wasn't u specifically| So nice of U 2 notice my favorites but had of U 2 completely ignore any context created by the comms I've left showing that I still think of em as people| It's quite narrowing of U as well 2 presume objectification because nudity but I thought just like U B-4 I joined deviantART(ABOUT 5 YEARS AGO)thought all cases/forms of nudity was generally pornography| I also joined due to mass rising interest in the muscular women in my faves AND artistic galleries you either skimmed over of never reached in your hurry to unearth dirt on me| I will admit I'm attracted to beautiful women(by societal standards as well)the only difference is(unlike the American President)I don't "just start kissing them/grab em by the genitals" and it's not just because I don't count as a celebrity therefore they won't "just let me do it" as I please|😒

Thirdly: Snowflakes & Soyboys ah so now your bias shows| Shows how much you really know about biology or even basic psychology| Gender isn't the station you believe it to be but a spectrum| Surprisingly here you were once advocating the liberation of a trans identity(though it was through the embrace of a reformed dehumanizing terminology)but now you're displaying a very much "Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings" approach to this topic when that's really just a cover for assholes to keep being assholes to maligned/marginalized groups while "appearing" rational as they rant about malarkey like soy is making you "disagree" with me and any depiction of a gay relationship in media(outside of LGBTQ+ media)is trying to make your kids gay| In reality no rational person wants "Fax 2 Cars About Feels" but instead 2 maybe value people over opinions; in a reality where stress can show as something from mildly harmless hair loss to Holy Shit a literal hole in that person's stomach called an ulcer and that's with a person who isn't grappling with their place in a society that values their devaluation|
2SJW;DR
If U say "Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings" I ask "Why Are Your Fax Soooo Much More Precious Than People" 2-U|
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I kinda went overboard on 3rd there...let's just say I was "triggered" by your overreaching Soy/Snowflake-spiracy accusation|
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Unlike the American President...I stand by every bit of what I said here|

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LucasHC90 In reply to KeirTanaka [2019-02-20 08:08:41 +0000 UTC]

Hermaphrodite was never an acceptable term and you defending it just shows the complete lack of knowleadge in basic human biology and genetics: there are no documented cases in which both types of gonadal tissue function was found in humans, since hermaphroditism LITTERALY means you have to have both reproductive organs and and produces both gametes. Intersex is alright, but it only applies to genital ambiguity (sometimes caused by hormonal disbalances while the baby is inside the mothers' womb), any combinations of chromosomal aberrations other than XY and XX... in other terms, intersex means "deviation from the NORMAL".

How ableist and insensitive of you, call transsexual people aberrations.   

Stress causing ulcers? Again you show complete lack of any medical knowleadge, as the main causes are H. pylori infection, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs and cancer. Basic psychology you say? Do you have any degree on the field or are you also limited by what Google (not the Scholar one) tells you? Because if you did you would know that Trans people suffers from Body Dysmorphic Disorder, which means they don't see themselves in the body/sex they were born with and false diagnostication only leads to a higher rate of suicide in the trans comunity even after post-operation... you know why? Because when someone doesn't feel like it fits in his/her own body (with the exception of some individual cases), no amount of mutilation can properly cure them (people with plastic surgical addiction also have this same disorder).

"Value people over opinions"
That's why I write all this: because I read and studied the subject (as many others in my field), so no amount of misinformation (like the ones you wrote) will cause further damage using those who REALLY value the individual over the "feelings" as tools of propagation.

"A person who isn't grappling with their place in a society that values their devaluation"
So... you are talking about bullying? Because I don't see 40% of kids who suffered psychological and/or physical abuse from their age groups suiciding. Oh, you must be talking about men who suffered sexual abuse and speak up just to suffer redicule and discredit from society... but nope, those don't add up to the 40% of "go commit neck rope" rates. Each 40 seconds one person commits suicide in this world, which only 9% of those were diagnosed with depression. So, is "not belonging" a means to which transsexuals kill themselves OR their dysmorphia is indeed a decease on its own that kills in an allarming rate if not properly treated? Even if it was the first in case, wouldn't you agree that getting a thicker skin instead of passing laws that arrest people who *GASP* misgender them would solve that?

I don't know, these are just "opinions", not empirical evidence put together with logic.

Facts DON'T REALLY care about feelings, and trying to disprove of basic anatomy just because I made a reference to soy and snow (which both weren't even aimed at you, but I guess you got baited nonetheless) is a dumb move kiddo... strawmaning never resolved any serious discussion in a constructive way (and certainly not my edgy remarks I know, but I'm a cynical mofo what can I do?). My argumentum ad-hominem about your gallery was just the cherry on the cake so I could savour some salt, but your response was somewhat "meh", so I require MOAR!

Just an advice: stop chewing something other people spit out and go do your own research before talking through you anal cavity. 

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KeirTanaka In reply to LucasHC90 [2019-02-20 10:35:35 +0000 UTC]

How the Eff am I defending it when I literally said it was bastardized through misuse? Because I said it was acceptable? As if Line Trap will ever be universally accepted because a popular trans porno person finds the term particularly flattering, yep|
B-4 I go any further/farther here...I'm gonna go out on a limb and say neither of us are even qualified nurses let alone experts on this topic(the medical side at least)so here's my source right: www.isna.org/faq/frequency :here and I've just shown you mine now kindly show me yours, pretty please|
ALSO
Intersex means either crossing or combining of tha sexes; how ableiest/insensitive/generally degenerate of U 2 imply being a deviant is inherently a bad thing|😋

I may not know much of psychology but at least I've cited my sources, anyway I don't not need no dam degree 2 know basic human decency is far more important to producing a mentally/physically healthy person whether or not they identify as their assigned birth gender or not|
I actually got the bit about the ulcer from a dictionary but it's common freakin knowledge that stress & so 4th can exasperate a preexisting condition|

 "misinformation I wrote"
Well let's see some them sources in whatever field you studied that proves anything I've said wrong|

 "get a thicker skin vs being kinder/more civil"
Sources welcome but anyway, I was never talking about suicide(U introduced that beast to this arena)buuut it's further insensitive of U 2 think it's disphoria in & of itself that's causing em 2 make friends with rope or whatever| At least tha rope understands em + ends their suffering which is more than I can say 4 a parking lot of people who invalidate their rebirth on principles they don't understand|
ALSO
How many people do U know that have been arrested over Prop 8 or do U simply think it's arrestable because it's on a legally binding document? Weed is illegal in some states but perps aren't always put in jail over it and so is DUI/DWI but not all offenders are jailed as well as jaywalking|

Yeah I already kicked myself over getting "triggered" as it were so I guess another of your hobbies is pouring salt on wounds/kicking people when their down but I never said I were talking to me but just that it revealed your biases, genius + what tha eff is it with internet know-it-alls and calling tha person they're debating/arguing with "kid" attempting some sense of smug superiority...that's not good look sporto| Neither is attacking every position your remark typically cosigns on but I've already been kicked over that enough I'd say|

Just a bit of courteous criticism here: Talking through your anal cavity is a parking lot healthier than loving tha smell of it so please stop smelling your own doo and claiming it don't stank as bad as your opinion(s)|😇

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LucasHC90 In reply to KeirTanaka [2019-02-20 18:29:17 +0000 UTC]

You clearly said it was an acceptable term that was bastardized through misuse... it was never acceptable and no amount of misuse would make it any less acceptable because it was always medicaly incorrect.
She clearly likes to be called Line Trap and the meme was about her, so I don't see any problem here. If ANOTHER person feels trigger because SHE identify that way... well, its not that person business, is it?

"how ableiest/insensitive/generally degenerate of U 2 imply being a deviant is inherently a bad thin"
Because I use the medical terms, IT IS a bad thing when we are talking about chromossomic aberrations and deformities. Its like saying to a person that was born without arms that he is 100% even though he needs to write with his mouth holding the pencil. Pointing the obvious isn't abuse and those who needs special care HAVE to be fully aware of their condition to not suffer even more.


"Well let's see some them sources in whatever field you studied that proves anything I've said wrong"
I'm a qualified medic, juuuust for your information. Saying that won't prove anything, but Google Scholar is a good alternative (althought sometimes you find studies that goes all over the place). Besides that? Sorry if I can't link every study from every book that I read past the last 8 years of my life, but any medical book on the subject would suffice PLUS any serious study on mental illnesses and genetics.

I wasn't talking about Prop 8 specifically, just saying that banning words or forcing people on using words is borderline censorious at best and nothing of useful can be drawn from that EVER. I talked about depression because it is the field I have most life experience on AND it is a crippling condition nonetheless that I used for comparison in the sake of argumentation since I work in a third world country with overwelming rates of suicide and depression in comparison to the rest of its continent.

"another of your hobbies is pouring salt on wounds/kicking people when their down"
HUMANITY will always do both of those things and I'm not the cause of it, I just aknowleadge it. As I said, you can't force the entire human race to follow the same ideals you have, but you can just ignore those that hurt you, simple! I would NEVER kick someone that is down, don't pretend you know me and stop blowing things out of proportion since this post is litteraly years old and from everyone who saw it you were the only white knight to come here and reprehend me over a joke about someone who doesn't even care about it.

By your logic, even Trump supporters are free from criticism because "oh noes, this bad word may offend the hive mind behind this community, even if many people that belongs to it doesn't even care about said word".

"attempting some sense of smug superiority"
Talk about smug superiority when you come to people's galleries saying to them which words they can and cannot use over matters you don't fully comprehend or studied about. That's why to me you act like a kid: superficial knowleadge and no useful advices for real life cenarios, just "you are a meanie because you do this or that".

Once more, you are advocating for the right to be offended over the cummulative rights of about 99,3% of humanity. Good luck with that.

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KeirTanaka In reply to LucasHC90 [2019-02-24 15:08:23 +0000 UTC]

Well that's what I'm calling you & everyone else out on: Your consideration doesn't go beyond what U see or what's convenient 4-U| It's not her identifying that way that's wrong so much as those who will "shirley" say "See she's fine with it; why can't you as well" as if all trans are a monolith + tha word Trap isn't halted as a hurtful & spiteful word by 1 person it could potentially harm accepts & even internalizes it| It's also contradictory of yourself to wave away when I cite this possibility of escalation here yet you are to be taken serious-as-a-heart attack when U worry that meandering laws COULD become a dogmatic system of restricted speech|
Hermaphrodite was accepted as a medical term which has recently been suspended in favor of intersex which you would know if you even so much as peeked at the source I cited|
You do realize that a geek was originally a side show performer who bit off the heads of chickens for the "entertainment" of on-looking gawkers WHICH WAS THEN repurposed as an alternate insult for nerd BUT NOW is a term co-opted by said nerds as their own?

Oh yeah because NOT having arms is totes equal 2 HAVING 2 genital sets on a single person|

Did I say EVERY LAST POSSIBLE SOURCE just then? My apologies then, I meant a minimum of 1 to a maximum of 3 sources for any 1 thing you claim|
If you're as versed in the art of depression & its treatment thereof then you would do well to have realized yesterday(<--as in your previous life)how close transgenderism is to depression and how invalidating & dehumanizing it can be to be misgendered(accidentally sure but can be genuinely be forgiven although it's when it's done)intentionally by supposed experts in biology & psychology|

Again Context Matters: I said you liked kicking ME PERSONALLY when I was down because I had already berated myself for my excessive reply to your statement and you kept berating me alongside that|
BUT
Should we not call out the people who do that: We're never gonna wipe out crime in general but no one is ever like "Well maybe we should stop making such a fuss about crime when it does rear its ugly head since this is just gonna be a constant fact of life" because of that|
You're misquoting/mistranslating my message despite how unambiguous I'm trying to be and to use your example: Trump supporters(some/not all-etc)are people who tend to themselves be "triggered" by the other(<--non-whites)to tha point they aren't tolerant to their mere presence and wanna squash any bit of descent/disagreement they detect as well| Trump is using a dehumanization method when he refers to Mexicans as animals & rapists which further enables those who already agree with him to see all such immigrants as being lesser beings than themselves who don't deserve a better life in America ear-regardless of legal means or not|

Well you seem like a kid to me when you behave like everything happens in a vacuum and "Oh man Y can't I just say what I want and have 2-B all considerate of others' feelings as individuals and not just treat em all tha same" and someone(<--me in this case)comes along and says "Well maybe you could try the gender-neutral system most of em even co-sign on with pronouns them/they/their & so 4th" but then you're like "I will NOT have my freedom of speech restricted by these soy-based snowflakes who can't deal in tha real world as the gender their bodies were born as..." and carrying on as if you will always know better than anyone you'll ever meet online| Especially since I clearly came as an informant and you seem to think me no different than an invader/conqueror making demands when no part of my vocation conveyed that intent|

You also seem to be under the impression that I'm advocating the right to be offended as opposed to what I've stated straightforward/unambiguously which is:
"MAYBE WE SHOULD BE VALUING PEOPLE OVER OPINIONS"
How exactly is that anymore childish(naive maybe)than "I wanna say whatever I want and everyone who doesn't like/agree with it should just deal" clearly is?

I can't believe I took U SO SERIOUSLY I left for a bit to do a bit more research than I already had...OK I was busy with family & business stuff as well but it was mostly research on jailing repeated misgendering offenders buzzword that triggered it and it's still as fictional as your sources are so far|

Another thing is what prompted my initial comment is that you've called this a DEmotivational which is typically a negative assertion as opposed to a MOTIVATIONAL a positive thing as you claim Line Trap to ultimately be; I don't week these out but I come across em & inform|

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LucasHC90 In reply to KeirTanaka [2019-03-02 03:05:59 +0000 UTC]

(WELL, since DA ins't answearing my support ticket I will have to make due)

"U worry that meandering laws COULD become a dogmatic system": Count Dankula and the Muslim grooming gangs are very well documented cases where laws ARE used to favor dogmatic ideologies.
"Hermaphrodite was accepted as a medical term" when we didn't understood biology that well and thought ambiguous genital literally meant the people had both sexes: my point still stands.
"How invalidating & dehumanizing it can be to be misgendered": if you are looking up to other people for validation, you are part of the problem and forcing people to use words in not the solution.
"Not just treat em all tha same": strawmanning much? I'm not entitled to shit from no one. If I'm obese and people call me fat  I don't have to demand the entire world stop using that word to refer to me: I either lose weight or stop caring about what other people think.
"With pronouns them/they/their & so 4th" - "these soy-based snowflakes who can't deal in tha real world as the gender their bodies were born as": I guess that once you strips every part of someone's identity off and makes your gender/sexuality the only thing that defines you as a person I can see why you are so obscessed with pronoums: if you don't force it on others, YOU becomes nothing. "I think therefore I am" not "I'm validated by others therefore I exist".
"You seem to think me no different than an invader/conqueror ": well, you are still in MY gallery trying to force YOUR world view down my throat, isn't you? Under freedom of speech, especially on a public area, that much right you have, but you are not entitled to
"MAYBE WE SHOULD BE VALUING PEOPLE OVER OPINIONS" "Why Are Your Fax Soooo Much More Precious Than People": this is where you contradicts yourself because in your mind valuing someone IS valuing their opinions, since being trans don't magically makes you have the desired sex's chromosomes OR not policing yourself to how someone FEELS about some words is dehumanizing. That why FACTS should always hold value OVER people AND feelings.
"DEmotivational" as in the 1998 MEME were posters are typically designed to discourage one's moral strength and diminish one's self-esteem, in this case, a straight man dating someone with a dick.''''''''''''''




"I meant a minimum of 1 to a maximum of 3 sources for any 1 thing you claim", sigh... farewell:

"Getting a thicker skin instead of passing laws that arrest people who *GASP* misgender them would solve that" -  Article "Mental Health and Frustration" by medium dot com

"Because when someone doesn't feel like it fits in his/her own body (with the exception of some individual cases), no amount of mutilation can properly cure them " - Study "Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden" by journals dot plos dot org

"A person who isn't grappling with their place in a society that values their devaluation" - Study "Suicide and Suicidal Behavior among Transgender Persons" by www dot ncbi dot nlm dot nih dot gov (see definitive triggering factors to see what TRULY means to be an outcast from society, not just misgendering issues: poor, beaten, exploited, abused, diseased, abandoned. Doesn't that make your "them/their" argument so much more pitiful?)

"Hermaphrodite was never an acceptable term" - Page "Is a person who is intersex a hermaphrodite?" by www dot isna dot org  (from your own source material)

"hole in that person's stomach called an ulcer and that's with a person who isn't grappling with their place in a society" - Article "Stress Doesn’t Cause Ulcers! Or, How To Win a Nobel Prize in One Easy Lesson: Barry Marshall on Being … Right" by slate dot com

"it's further insensitive of U 2 think it's disphoria in & of itself that's causing em 2 make friends with rope or whatever" - Study "Suicidal ideation and suicide attempts in persons with gender dysphoria" by www dot psicothema dot com

"Jailing repeated misgendering offenders buzzword that triggered it and it's still as fictional as your sources are so far"

"Teacher accused of 'misgendering' child was told by police that she committed a hate crime" www dot telegraph dot co dot uk
"Good News: Law Penalizing “Misgendering” with Hefty Fine and/or Jail Time being Legally Challenged" californiafamily dot org
"Mother, 38, is arrested in front of her children and locked in a cell for seven HOURS after calling a transgender woman a man on Twitter" www dot dailymail dot co dot uk (not so much fictional heh?)


All my sources are writen by specialists on their fields, are documented events OR are summaries made from studies linked on the end of their respective articles.

Now, its your turn "because it seems you have mistook anecdotal evidence for sources):


"In reality no rational person wants "Fax 2 Cars About Feels"" - which study you picked that from?
"At least tha rope understands em + ends their suffering which is more than I can say 4 a parking lot of people who invalidate their rebirth" - looking for "suicide over invalidation" turns nothing on Google, help!
"hermaphrodite <--which was an acceptable term but has been bastardized through gratuitous misuse" - source?
"Trump is using a dehumanization method when he refers to Mexicans as animals & rapists" - "see all such immigrants as being lesser beings than themselves who don't deserve a better life in America": source please (and a serious one, preferly an uncut video or audio file of him saying those exact words, not a buzzfeed article saying "what he really meant by that was")
"I may not know much of psychology but at least I've cited my sources": which are...? The only source you ever provided was that ISNA page so...


"I said you liked kicking ME PERSONALLY when I was down": maybe you should stop taking things so personaly and realise the world does not spin around you nor your ideals. People are free to say whatever they may feel like just as being offended by something is also a choice... you are not a victim nor a survivor and specially not a hero because you listened to something you don't like, so grow up.

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LucasHC90 In reply to KeirTanaka [2019-02-27 20:22:26 +0000 UTC]

Having trouble posting links, contacting DA ("Couldn't post the comment, since the system thinks it's spam..").

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KeirTanaka In reply to LucasHC90 [2019-03-19 17:37:41 +0000 UTC]

"Count Dankula and the Muslim grooming gangs are very well documented cases where laws ARE used to favor dogmatic ideologies."

Either explain or show your source but again ultimately going from what you just said...it still isn't proof that it will happen but that it's only going through stages which may fizzle out like they have before but I don't know enough about it to effectively weigh in on it|

"if you are looking up to other people for validation, you are part of the problem and forcing people to use words in not the solution."

Spoken like a true child who doesn't understand basic psychology or disphoria|


"strawmanning much? I'm not entitled to shit from no one. If I'm obese and people call me fat  I don't have to demand the entire world stop using that word to refer to me: I either lose weight or stop caring about what other people think."

Spoken like a general child that doesn't know tha difference between a weight problem and a psychological issue|


"With pronouns them/they/their & so 4th" - "these soy-based snowflakes who can't deal in tha real world as the gender their bodies were born as": I guess that once you strips every part of someone's identity off and makes your gender/sexuality the only thing that defines you as a person I can see why you are so obscessed with pronoums: if you don't force it on others, YOU becomes nothing. "I think therefore I am" not "I'm validated by others therefore I exist".

You're tha one blowing the proportions of this issue beyond simply the gendered side of one's identity into gender being the entirety of their identity| It can seem that way when misgendering can have the effect that it does but why don't you try going around using the opposite pronouns for everyone you presume to be cisgender and see how they react|

"well, you are still in MY gallery trying to force YOUR world view down my throat, isn't you? Under freedom of speech, especially on a public area, that much right you have, but you are not entitled to"

You didn't make much of a point here but simply made a statement because we could be having this discussion anywhere but since this is your depiction...it isn't criticism/critique but me forcing you to think tha way I do which is based on actual psychology & decency whereas yours is freedom of speech = I don't have to consider the feelings & outlook of trans folk & entitled soyflakes because they don't think like I do & inhibit muh freeze-peaches|
Actually you can stop this anytime you want by refusing to argue/discuss any further though I do suppose you do deserve some degree of credit for continuing on as opposed to blocking me to discontinue this exercise altogether so you are THAT mature at least|
Ultimately I'm only trying to show you why you're wrong to think tha way you do...no different than you are with me in response|

"this is where you contradicts yourself because in your mind valuing someone IS valuing their opinions, since being trans don't magically makes you have the desired sex's chromosomes OR not policing yourself to how someone FEELS about some words is dehumanizing. That why FACTS should always hold value OVER people AND feelings."

There you go understanding comparisons like an embryo again: When someone expresses a truth of their heart-n-soul by doing everything humanly possible to accommodate what current society looks for in that truth...that FAAAR exceeds your expression/effort to just continuously shake your head & say "NOPE" & "not enough" to their efforts|
Not to mention science says a trans person is someone who was born with a brain opposite in gender to the sex they were born with so there's a fact you can latch on to as opposed to chromosomes no human is equipped to ascertain on the spot while navigating tha planet & her - uh, their - people SO it really doesn't freakin matter in tha slightest, not to mention replacement therapy alters what those chromosomes even do SO either the chromosomes don't matter OR there's yet another fact to latch on to|

"DEmotivational" as in the 1998 MEME were posters are typically designed to discourage one's moral strength and diminish one's self-esteem, in this case, a straight man dating someone with a dick.''''''''''''''

Intentionally creating an alternate context for the very defined thing I was asking about again whining like a child when someone criticizes how you exercise your free speech...I'll try again anyways|
DEmotivational: opposite of motivational|
MOTIVATIONAL: An expression designed to show solidarity in an effort to compel one's actions and/or mindset in a certain direction typically one they already hold|
-definition cobbled together from tha web to show you how you're the one contradicting yourself by branding "Line Trap" a DEmotivational while claiming it to be a term you're using as Bailey Jay intended|

"Mental Health and Frustration by medium dot com"
Nothing therein pertaining to trans identity nor an article called Mental Health and Frustration - NEXT|

"Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden"
Nothing therein pertaining to trans identity nor an article called Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden - NEXT|


I would have to believe it were pitiful to begin with but it's nowhere near as pitiful as your ability(or lack thereof)to properly convey tha website's address without writing/typing it in unfiltered|
A much better idea would have been to out a space between each dot especially in lieu of writing dot instead of "." like so:
www . deviantart . com/lucashc90/art/Demotivational-Line-Trap-202822388

ULCERS - How many times do I have to say I got that from a dictionary; is it more than once?
BUT
Arguing stress doesn't cause ulcers is like arguing it isn't tha cold that really gives someone a cold: Sure maybe not but it doesn't mean adequate clothing is now a bad idea|

Read: psychcentral.com/lib/the-physi… :That

"Teacher accused of 'misgendering' child was told by police that she committed a hate crime"

Well intentional misgendering IS a hate crime so...

"Good News: Law Penalizing “Misgendering” with Hefty Fine and/or Jail Time being Legally Challenged"

There's nothing saying if the misgendering is intentional/continuous so I'm "fenced" on that issue|

"Mother, 38, is arrested in front of her children and locked in a cell for seven HOURS after calling a transgender woman a man on Twitter"

Oh Dear!
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Well the article says she was arguing with her for a while so she had the opportunity to walk away plenty(like either of us here)at any time + the transwoman was an activist so she clearly did so intentionally as a transphobe and not a mistake so this doesn't apply to what I thought we were arguing which is people arrested over ACCIDENTALLY misgendering someone|

+I CAN DO 1 BETTER+

I have a relative who almost spent a Christmas in jail but did spend literally all day there as a teenager/minor for "making an aggressive move" at some grown people arguing across a parking lot while MoM was present...then she had to wait a while to get a ride home because she had to watch tha driver carted off to jail|
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OK maybe you don't think that's worse but it just goes to show that cops don't universally make tha best calls with the system in which they're operating|


"In reality no rational person wants "Fax 2 Cars About Feels"" - which study you picked that from?
I already cited it so why don't you go back and see it + an instance of a time it wasn't misspelled by my device and you didn't misquote me|

"At least tha rope understands em + ends their suffering which is more than I can say 4 a parking lot of people who invalidate their rebirth" - looking for "suicide over invalidation" turns nothing on Google, help! "

That's because I obviously(in context at least)said that in response to your assertion that trans people commit suicide anyway no matter what basically but just like with the ulcer thing: Just because it isn't tha main reason doesn't mean it isn't a contributing factor|

"Trump is using a dehumanization method when he refers to Mexicans as animals & rapists" - "see all such immigrants as being lesser beings than themselves who don't deserve a better life in America": source please (and a serious one, preferly an uncut video or audio file of him saying those exact words, not a buzzfeed article saying "what he really meant by that was")"

youtu.be/wUdwpsgbAv4


"I may not know much of psychology but at least I've cited my sources"

OK 1 source but it does cite more than 1 thing as your using it against me proves|


"I said you liked kicking ME PERSONALLY when I was down": maybe you should stop taking things so personally and realise the world does not spin around you nor your ideals. People are free to say whatever they may feel like just as being offended by something is also a choice... you are not a victim nor a survivor and specially not a hero because you listened to something you don't like, so grow up.

HOLY @#$%& I GUESS CONTEXT MUST NOT BE FOR GROWN FOLKS EITHER BECAUSE YOU'RE EITHER IGNORING IT OR 2 GROWN 2 NOTICE IT FROM ATOP YOUR HIGH HORSE; I SAID THAT BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T STOP CRITICIZING A THING I SAID AFTER I ALREADY CRITICIZED MYSELF FOR SAYING IT|
Now this is where you've crossed a line and gotten personal saying some ultimately false because you think you know everyone because you're arguing with em online: I have been tha victim of verbal & physical abuse in my childhood and went through mental strains as a result because I thought I(like a parking lot of child victims)deserved it in some way & told no one until I came of age so the perpetrators got away with it as far as I know...karma could've caught up to em or maybe they repented & atoned but I don't know & may never|
Being offended at something someone said is no more a "choice" than being spat on it they spit in your general direction: Sure you could "choose" to make no attempt to show or vocate your offense but it doesn't erase tha fact that it is there|
Look at you also aggrandizing my intentions into "hero" status; you would do well to stick to your facts and not your faulty ASSumptions that are more than likely wrong just like how you were wrong before|

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LucasHC90 In reply to KeirTanaka [2019-04-02 19:50:19 +0000 UTC]

Talking to you was entertaining in the beginning but started to become even more increasingly tiresome, since you just cherry pick pieces of my arguments you want to debate and any source I provide you dismiss while also providing while willinfuly closing your eyes to flaws in your own sources, so so I will close with some statements:

Trump said ILLEGAL immigrants were animals while talking about the crimes commited by those in that group. Clear as day but you chose to believe he said any and all immigrants while his ancestors themselves were DOCUMENTED immigrants in the US. Crime hate among illegals is truly high and some aren't even refuges, just criminals and gang members hiding from their countries laws, just as coyotes are also abusing and trafficking women and children on their way across the border. You like illegals? Help them have a better life at their home country, period.

"I have been tha victim of verbal & physical abuse in my childhood"
I'm talking about words here, that's why I tried my best to keep my personal life experiences away from this conversation... because BOY did you also made a lot of crappy ASSumptions that ignored that. How much value does anecdotal evidences holds up against discussions? Nothing, zero, nada. But since you brought physical assault into the mix, yeah fuck whoever did that and I have NO simpathy for anyone that partake in it. Words are words, sticks and stones DO break bones.

"Well the article says she was arguing with her for a while so she had the opportunity to walk away plenty"
So was the choice of the transwoman too. You certainly made me uncofortable times here. It is fair for you be sued over that? Should a special law be made for me so I can penalize you over that?

The only part of your last message that was truly imprinted in my brain was you constantly calling me a child and implying I'm uninteligent over and over and over. Even if you made me uncorfotable throughout this exchange and I left that clear MANY times, I would never block you unless you start straight up harassing me you know why? Because of that little human right you are so desperately trying to justify the regulation: freedom of speech. If you DO harrass me I would simply ignore you because its my choice and right to just stop caring about what you have to say at any given point. As Jordam Peterson once said to Cathy Newman: "because in order to be able to think you have to risk being offensive [...] you certainly willing to risk offending me in the pursue of truth, why should you have the right to do that?"

Look... Articles 11 and 13 just passed in EU while sometime ago SOPA didn't, people are being ostracized from society because of their opinion and beliefs and you keep thinking its just a "stage which may fizzle out like they have before". Well, good luck with that in the near distopian future you are helping to create where everyone is made of crystal and anything can be censored anytime because someone find something offensive and problematic.

Just to sum up the Count Dankula debacle:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFraBE…

Next time try to be less annoying, specialy when its YOU that is stirring up conversations that no one asked for.

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KeirTanaka In reply to LucasHC90 [2019-06-07 03:54:53 +0000 UTC]

"Talking to you was entertaining in the beginning but started to become even more increasingly tiresome" - Well now you know how I feel except talking to you started off as such|

"since you just cherry pick pieces of my arguments you want to debate" - Same Here!

"any source I provide you dismiss while also providing while willinfuly closing your eyes to flaws in your own sources" - #YourOwnMedicine + a source I just cited targeted directly a flaw in your argument which boils down to growing a thicker skin which I'll admit isn't a bad thing but remains bad advice|

Here it goes again: psychcentral.com/news/2019/06/… + sta.sh/2fuzgwfhs2o?edit=1

"Trump said ILLEGAL immigrants were animals while talking about the crimes commited by those in that group" - First it was "show me a video of Trump saying MEXICANS are animals & rapists" but you chose to TRANSition to "well he's only saying ILLEGAL immigrants are such" when my argument was that referring to ANY immigrants as animals & rapists is dehumanizing method to see em all as such but I guess you've decided dehumanizing any criminal is just okey-dokey|

I somehow thought you would watch tha rest of tha video just as you expect to read whatever you try to show me because the news dude continues that "even criminals are human beings and to remove humanity from people who commit vile acts makes it easier to treat them inhumanely with violence and ignores darker aspects of humanity and tha many ways a person's environment and abuse can lead them to commit vile/unspeakable acts" which is to say that treating a monster like a monster only encourages said monster to remain as such whereas treating a monster like a person does encourage other monsters to see a way out...it's not a magic wand just like a band-aid doesn't exactly accelerate healing|

Watch tha rest of tha video to address tha rest of the malarkey you typed there|

"I have been tha victim of verbal & physical abuse in my childhood"

I'm talking about words here, that's why I tried my best to keep my personal life experiences away from this conversation..."

Ummm...

"you are not a victim nor a survivor and specially not a hero because you listened to something you don't like, so grow up."

Yeah and you were really encouraging me to not speak out on any suffering I've endured myself when you make ASSumptions about someone else like that when you ignore CONTEXT!!!

Then Again I'm one to talk because you said I wasn't any of those things BECAUSE I heard something I didn't like...but I am(not a hero though)because legitimately bad @#$%& did happen to me though so that still stands and you're still aggrandizing what I believe about myself|

"yeah fuck whoever did that and I have NO simpathy for anyone that partake in it"

Whoa Umm Thanx, I suppose...BUT THEY'RE NOT ANIMALS, lol|

"So was the choice of the transwoman too. You certainly made me uncofortable times here. It is fair for you be sued over that? Should a special law be made for me so I can penalize you over that?"

I would say "YES" but such a thing already existed before I was about to say that; I was about to go over it but you ignored it when I mentioned your compliance in this...thing we're having| Cyberbullying/Online Harassment are arrest-worthy crimes 2 my knowledge| The only thing is it wasn't made specifically for you and neither is [keyword: INTENTIONAL] misgendering laws made for any one specific trans| So I guess "NO" considering tha way you phrased it|

"The only part of your last message that was truly imprinted in my brain was you constantly calling me a child and implying I'm uninteligent over and over and over"

Because you're making it up...what I did say was your UNDERSTANDING of the certain ways you were arguing was LIKE a child which does imply a degree of lesser intellect but are we to also ignore the various times you called me a kid...because you likely think that sounds cooler than child?

"If you DO harrass me I would simply ignore you because its my choice"

Harassment in general is kinda like weeds: They differ from person-to-person but no one can tell you what is or not it...if you're gonna be reasonable about it|

Harassment in this case would be if you utterly refused to engage this topic with me but I utterly refused to stop trying to engage you with it(that would be real "force" right there)without at least letting a few months or a year pass but ultimately if I refuse to stop when you call it then I am effectively harassing you THEN you can potentially have me jailed & so 4th like I know you secretly want - just kidding|

" As Jordam Peterson once said to Cathy Newman"

Oh joy of joys, him again..oh right, this is tha 1st time YOU have cited him|

"because in order to be able to think you have to risk being offensive [...] you certainly willing to risk offending me in the pursue of truth, why should you have the right to do that?"

This has to be tha 1st time I've heard of JP telling a joke which means I was wrong about him NOT having some semblance of a sense of humor|

"anything can be censored anytime because someone find something offensive"

If I contribute to that future in any way then it's because I'm busy telling you unambiguously what I am against and you just lump it in with censorship as opposed to regulation which we already do because freedom of speech is actually a myth and what you have can be called that because no one really wants to say things that aren't free these days|

I already told you that just because you can't say whatever you want whenever you want doesn't mean you are censored because you can always create your own platform where you can espouse your views but you aren't censored when no one else gives you a platform to speak upon|

Like if I said to you,"Would you mind not saying 'X' to me during our discussion(s) because I don't like it/I find it offensive/it breaks my momma's back" and you politely or not say "NO" then I support walking away but again it's if you keep trying to follow me to maybe explain why and I refuse to hear you then that's not me censoring you which is what you're claiming when you can't call a person something they've informed you don't want to be called|

"Next time try to be less annoying, specialy when its YOU that is stirring up conversations that no one asked for"

WHY IS IT THAT I CAN BE CENSORED BUT YOU CAN'T BE, lol!

"conversations that no one asked for"

I didn't realize you HAD to ask for a criticism before criticism can be expensed|

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LucasHC90 In reply to KeirTanaka [2019-06-08 03:45:24 +0000 UTC]

"when my argument was that referring to ANY immigrants as animals & rapists is dehumanizing method to see em all as such but I guess you've decided dehumanizing any criminal is just okey-dokey|"

You are right, its not okay to call them animals since not even animals do this kind of thing:  www.google.com/search?newwindo…:
Yeah, go give one of those "innocent little angels" the keys to your house and then we can debate about how petting a crocodile doesn't make it less dangerous.

"you just lump it in with censorship as opposed to regulation"

Tell that to soviet Russian and Imperial China's citizens because I bet they would prefer no "regulation" on speech... like tyranny never started with "harmless" regulation of freedoms before.

"WHY IS IT THAT I CAN BE CENSORED BUT YOU CAN'T BE"

Who is censoring you? Quite the contrary! I told you many times that my firm believe of freedom of speech is the only thing keeping this conversation alive becase I CAN hide your posts you know?

"conversations that no one asked for"

Again, you cherry pick what serves you the most and if you can't see the point I made was "be less annoying" intead of "don't criticize" you really have some form of dyslexia or is just ideologicaly possessed to the point you ignore everything that goes against your narrative or, ironically, calls you out on your bullshit. Hipocrisy much? (At least I can ignore your comments from now on with a clear consciouness since I can't talk with a brick and certainly repeating the same thing over and over and over expecting a different result is the definition of madness).

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KeirTanaka In reply to LucasHC90 [2020-01-02 03:33:24 +0000 UTC]

HAPPY NEW YEAR

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LucasHC90 In reply to KeirTanaka [2020-01-09 23:33:32 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, Happy New Year to you and your family too!

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KeirTanaka In reply to KeirTanaka [2020-01-05 20:53:01 +0000 UTC]

Tha record will show that I started out with a nicety and the "defendant" chose to ignore it|
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"You are right, its not okay to call them animals since not even animals do this kind of thing: www.google.com/search?newwindo…:"

-me.me/i/p92-actually-people-ha…
-www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0195…
-www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd_nVC…

It seems that when the animals are white then they're remembered fondly and given holidays but they're only ever thought of as animals when they don't belong to tha "MASTER" race|

"Yeah, go give one of those "innocent little angels" the keys to your house and then we can debate about how petting a crocodile doesn't make it less dangerous. "

Dealing in absolutes just like a Sith: They're either animals or angels| You're also being an extremist as well because there are people I've known much of my entire life that never gave me any reason to think 2ce about giving em my keys but still wouldn't; but I suppose everyone that ever so much as smiled at you has a set made that same day for your domicile...anyone belonging to tha master race that is|
ALSO
I mean you can train a crocodile to be less dangerous as can many actual wild animals or have you never been to a circus before?!

"Tell that to soviet Russian and Imperial China's citizens because I bet they would prefer no "regulation" on speech... like tyranny never started with "harmless" regulation of freedoms before"

Well Trump has become President so it appears we're already there which actually started as a slam AGAINST tha rise of "POLLITICALLY CORRECT" culture|

"Who is censoring you? Quite the contrary! I told you many times that my firm believe of freedom of speech is the only thing keeping this conversation alive becase I CAN hide your posts you know?"

#No_Know_Sarcasm

"Again, you cherry pick what serves you the most and if you can't see the point I made was "be less annoying" intead of "don't criticize" you really have some form of dyslexia or is just ideologicaly possessed to the point you ignore everything that goes against your narrative or, ironically, calls you out on your bullshit. Hipocrisy much? (At least I can ignore your comments from now on with a clear consciouness since I can't talk with a brick and certainly repeating the same thing over and over and over expecting a different result is the definition of madness). "

#No_Know_Sarcasm + #Your_Own_Medicine

"be less annoying" / "cherrypicking"

You conveniently forget the many times you've outright called me a child(1st might I add)then began complaining when I compared your arguments & comprehension to that of a child whilst your actual complaint was that I had called you a child yet I never complained 1ce|

"I can ignore your comments from now on with a clear consciouness since I can't talk"

I think you mean "conscience" there and it's only because I actually have one that I can't just ignore ignorance and/or intolerance and/or systemic - problematic double standards in society...no matter how much mania it may cause me|

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LucasHC90 In reply to LordSpleach [2016-02-29 12:28:31 +0000 UTC]

LOL

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DarthSephina In reply to Bramblestar15 [2014-01-27 06:47:32 +0000 UTC]

She is a transsexual she is a woman that was unfortunately born the wrong gender she was never a man

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Bramblestar15 In reply to DarthSephina [2014-02-07 01:50:59 +0000 UTC]

Ah ok. Thanks for informing me.

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LucasHC90 In reply to Bramblestar15 [2013-09-08 21:21:39 +0000 UTC]

She is male turned ALMOST female (still has he/she wee wee)

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Bramblestar15 In reply to LucasHC90 [2013-09-16 02:46:10 +0000 UTC]

Oh

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LucasHC90 In reply to moshrocker [2011-10-18 21:28:54 +0000 UTC]

I have to agree with you on that! If you take a look at my gallery, you will see a photo of my girlfriend. I simply love her hair, eyes and skin, its her natural beauty, so why she (and most women) thinks that if she straightens her hair, use colored contact lenses and cover her face and lips with makeup, which makes them asperous and sticky, she whould be any more beautiful?

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LordSpleach In reply to AxtonLennox111 [2014-07-07 23:18:14 +0000 UTC]

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RosegardenInHell In reply to AxtonLennox111 [2012-10-01 19:42:27 +0000 UTC]

*clicks the like button*

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