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LuckyLilith โ Test Lab Monkeys
Published: 2012-12-15 11:56:22 +0000 UTC; Views: 1576; Favourites: 10; Downloads: 7
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Yes, we are all test monkeys in this experiment from the admin's site!This is what I wrote in response:
"part of the test to not let people opt out" - what do you mean, is this some kind of hostage situation?
What kind of reactions is it you want to trigger? And why?
Let me tell you, if you check the feed back site you'll see what reactions your test has triggered so far - frustration, annoyance, sadness, anger and all kind of negative emotions, The emoticons, before you guys removed them showed that about 90% of the parttakers were negative. Wasn't that enough to abort the experiment already a month ago?
And it's not only about the faulty site in itself, but the way people have randomly been selected out to become test subjects in your sick games, and not having ANY say about it. Nobody have been asked if they were interested in participating, nobody have recieved any boon in return for the hazzle and when people, like me, want out, we find that you have locked us all in. What kind of treatment is that? Lack of respect is not enough words for what that is. And a lot of us are paying customers being used in this rude way.
Besides, I am not interested in parttaking in some kind of psychological experiment. I want to use this site to post my art work and my writing, not being some kind of involuntary and unpaid test subject to some mysterious test. I feel so totally
And when it comes to technical means, well then go grab someone who HAS it and then have them fixing my connection so I can use the regular site instead of this abomination!
For Gods sake, stop this now! Give us the Christmas gift to have our old, reliable submission site back and spare us more tears and frustration!
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Yes, I'm so over it - and yes I did sign the petition. I just hope they can get bothered listen to us, or if they are just gonna keep slipping the finger at us.
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they'll probably won't listen anyway...-_-
I appreciate the signing ofc~~^^ 
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Welcome! After all I'm so over the way they just screw us over
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that's juz bad...ya know...this site used to be one of the very best.
I did heard from one of the old deviants here (like those who's been here for around 6 years or more) that the dA-admins are different people now compared to the REAL and ORIGINAL dA-admins.
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That's probably true. When I came one here quite long ago and on another account, it was more of a community. And it was about ART and where people actually TALKED with each other about art, and when you filed a bug report you got a respectful response instead of some a****ole talking down to you. And there wasn't all those llamas and cakes and points and other bling bling taking your attention and energy from the art.
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that's juz depressing ya know...
anywayz, those original dA-admins, how could they leave this site and entrust it to a bunch of facebook-users who now call themselves as "admins"?
anywayz, well ya...guess all those bling-bling nonsense here juz proves that dA has changed for the worse...
well, we're still here though (and the other deviants who shares these sentiments)...that's what counts I guess...
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Yes, but we are getting more and more annoyed and distressed for every day it seems. And I'm founding myself using other services out there more and more, like Box and so on. For instance if I need to create a synopsis cloud (where people comes together to create a storyline for a live roleplay or perhaps a TV-serie) I don't direct people here anymore because it has been too complicated to use and to cluttery.
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well, that's juz it...
I think anipan could be a good alternate than dA...
right now, I'm beginnning to believe that even Facebook is alot credible than dA...-_- Facebook have all the idiots packed in this world alright, but they have a good security system...like no one can view your artworks except for your friends (or you customize that up), and you can tag and submit much at will.
but logically, that's juz nuts...nuts but true alright.-_-
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Yes, I'm getting pretty tired of this place, earlier it took me some 20 minutes to submit a new chapter and the 3 - 4 pictures that went to illustrate that one. These days it's a nightmare as it takes me hours instead, because every single pictyre takes about an hour to get submitted, if I count all the failed tries, which forces me to start over from the beginning all the time. It makes me sort of lose inspiration!
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and yep that's juz bad as it is. Like there's another deviant that wants to juz forget much of his dA-account.
Anipan maybe is a good alternative in this stuff.
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Yrs, I might move on, because this place really kills inspiration these days 
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yep same for me too...
I say you link me up too, once you find a habitable, more fun art-site than dA...
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Yes it's a sad development!
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that's why, analogously saying, it's like dA is like a city overrun by zombies, and now we (you and me, and a bunch of "survivors" or the true/real artists here left in dA) have to get out of dA (the plagued city) alive (alive, which means our artistic senses would still be intact as we leave here) and yeah, that's it...
pardon my zombie reference~~
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I really know what you mean. And I'm almost out of here (taking in mind it's been about 3 weeks since I've been here the last time) This place is really suffering from neglect, and it has gone from a fun pastime to something I nearly shrug off these days. And I've given up submitting stuff altogether because of all the problems with the submission system.
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yeah me too~~~ I pretty much felt the very same thing you're feeling right now...
my dA-friends here are the only ones keeping me here in dA, ya know... the "new" features here are sh!t and the submission itself, the "hot topics", you know, these things are ALL MAINSTREAM; they really need to change this site as mainstreamart.com now, "deviant" means refusing to accept the norms but here it is----accepting all the norms it can get.
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Yes, it's become so boring, everything is just about bland competitions and 'spend your money here'. Well, I can understand that they want to make some money as well, but it's like this place went from a charming down the corner restaurant to a McDonalds. And I preffer the former. And to be true, the former makes money as well, because they have their own character. And DA has no 'own character' anymore. It's not about arts and artists anymore. It has just become any other social network site, but a bit more bug-infested than for instance Facebook, Instagram or Linkedin.
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yep... dA sucks now, and if you've seen that Lady Gaga journal? that was the biggest slap I've read here in dA, ever.
yep, so much for the "deviant"-ness of dA, like I said, it's better to juz put this up as "mainstreamart.com" from now on.
and again, you're right----dA has become juz any other social networking site. too depressing even for words... -_-
The only reason left for me here that I'm still logging here in dA is because of my friends here...
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Same for me, it's for the friends, but I'm here more and more seldom. (As you can see by my late reply) Actually I've been out of the country for 3 weeks, and not bothering with logging on, but the odd thing is that I have not feel any need. Earlier, in my earlier incarnation here, I had more or less a craving to log in at least once a day to see what was going on and who was saying what to whom and what was on the DD's. Now I cannot hardly been bothered. And it's sad because I've had a lot of fun here earlier.
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yeah, sometimes I juz login around once or twice a week.
and yep I feel the very same way...
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Yes, this site has changed, it has been less about the art and the writings and more about other distracting trinkets. I think what says it all is that the submission process of art has been so much more complicated, and the ways to display and link together art works or written works - like chapers in a story and / or pictures related to that story is more or less a hopeless deed. I want to link next and previous chapter in my story in a conventient way when I add a new chapter, and that's not doable, neither is it to add pictures related to the work in a simplistic way.
I've suggested changes several times to the admins and recieved nothing but duh - replies. Meanwhile they keep messing up the site more and more with less relevant junk.
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I guess what you mean to say, and what I had in mind, is that this site have lost its focus/goal/aim all throughout...
It became commercialized if I say so myself... -_-
what replies did you get from them?
what's Elfwood?
and I think I used to be in booksie too (www.booksie.com), dunno if that site interests you but uh...well, it's worth a peek...
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The reply I got from the site managers were like 'duh we do what we want it's our site'. Not a second of trying to accomodate or at least being polite.ย
I'm not interested in points and llamas and cupcakes, i'm interested in people being here to appreciate and talk about art and writing.ย
Elfwood is as fanart fanfiction site with the weight upon fantasy even though there are a few SciFi sections there. I've read a lot of good superhero fan fictions there, and the thing is when I was active there some 8 y ago, people actually interracted. Then I didn't have time for the site in a while and lost my password and login upon changing computer. I came here on a tip from a friend and posted some photos back in 07-08 and back then it was quite fun. Then I more or less left because I became harassed by an idiot. Long story, but when I took a chanse and returned to the site in last year, it had changed beyond recognision. Gone was the community feel, with the small clubs, the news section where people wrote their own movie reviews or 3d programe reviews, gone were the competitions (mostly) and most of all, these days when I post not a single person comments on it anymore. Besides, posting art here has become so complicated since they changed the submission process, so I've almost given up on posting anything
I'll check outย booksie, see what's going on.
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SORRY I juz got back this to you now~~~
anywayz, I'll pick up where we left off~~^^
...like the dA-admin really said something like that?O_O
and uh...how did you respond to it?
and lulz, yep~~~it's not about the llama, but the interaction, ya know~~~
oh, so you've got trolled then at one time...
trolls sprout anything nonsense and pretty much at random occasions, it's best you don't do anything about them.
and yep, guess back then, dA was MORE deviant, right? people who are really serious about art went here on their own accord. dA didn't advertise itself back then, so those who seek---has found it.
NOW that dA went into an attention-whore and got to advertisements and stuffs, well, it attracted more of the "society" than the artists... -_- 
and yep, what you said here, is all very much what's happening now.
and oh, have you checked booksie yet?^^ I haven't been there since 2009, like when twitards stormed that site with their twilame-fanfics, but I think it still got its edge now..maybe now that twilame is indeed out of the fad and yeah...that's why I said it's worth a peek there.^^
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Hello! As a matter of fact, I didn't have time for booksie, and I've almost stopped writing all together now. And the reason for that is that I had a baby! And its great and wonderful and that but I hardly have any spare time. I started to write a walking death ff, but I only got past 3 chapters, then it was all in vain, because when I looked over it again 3 months later, I didn't remember much and couldn't conjure up the spirit agian. Much less the time. 
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whoa really huh~~~^^ CONGRATULATIONS!!! 
well then~that's settled! no dA or booksie or any of these frivolous sites can match compared to your baby, ya know!
in booksie, I dunno if the twitards have left, but if you see any of those Edward-Bella fanshits again, then juz conclude that booksie's juz a "has been" site. It was once one of the greatest writing sites----WAS.
...well, yeah...maybe time permits BUT for now, you've got your baby to take care of, and I'm sure he/she's wonderful enough unlike these sites here.
...you can login here in dA or any other sites ofc~~
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Of course he is, and thanks for your support.
And whatever Bella/Edward just makes me wanna 
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lulz, well, there are things such as "twitards" or extreme twilight-fans...
and I had (or still "have") been an antitwilight...our battle was long and forlorn...and the outcome was undecided but more or less, twishit faded eventually anyway...
BUT STILL, the story remains the same as long as there are fanfics goin'.
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Haha yes, I dislike it, but I try to disregard it these days. Pretend it doesn't exist lol
And ppl write fanfics about EVERYTHING these days it seems. I mean Nintendo - wtf, there isn't hardly a story in that one to begin with!!! Or I ran into some Bible stuff the other day, the creepiest slash
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...well, i guess we could live with that...
guess it's gonna be like that now that fanfics exist all around..
and hmm...even Nintendo huh...O_O 
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Haha yeah I can imagine there's a lot of twelvies out there, taking in mind some of the writing style. However there's a lot of oldies out there as well. Or would a 12 y old write fanfic about Flash Gordon or Scarlet O'Hara - lol. And those who write porn, sad ppl imo, but definitely 'grown ups' (some of them might be mentally twelvies I admit 
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lulz, in the end, it's the "immaturity" that has been written off to pages, never mind the age of the ones who write, huh~~~
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This is not an uncommon practice. Everytime google, youtube or facebook changes something it's usually for good and most people complain about it. Why is everyone so surprised that this site is acting like every other site? Honestly, I'm used to the treatment. Eventually, they will fix the bugs. I can understand why they need everyone to use it so they can figure out the issues with it. If everyone stopped using it, how would they know what's wrong with it?
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Yes, but this is not 'for good' - here they have taken a perfectly fine (well almost, there were a few minor bugs) submission page and replacing it with an abomiation which does not work and which is unusably for the major part of the people, and when you point it out to them you are either met with rude comments like this or you're being completely ignored.
What's uncommon practice in this case is their attitude against us, they have been nothing but either ignorant or outright rude since this insanity started. And now it has been going for 3 months! 3 months when we who are paying for it are paying for a faulty product. If I buy a car and it doesn't drive or if I buy milk and its bad I return it to the store and get my money back , but here I cannot return my submission and get my money back because of the submission page insanity!
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If I were you I would ask for the time the errors last to be recredited back to your subscription. They might honor that request. In any case, the best thing you can do is to band together with other people having the issues and try to discover why they are happening. I don't think you're wrong for reaching out to the admins, but to continually pursue them after they seem to have little interest helping you is a bit futile. Again, I think you are justified to be upset. I just think these kinds of journals that you and other users have been putting out, and the comments people are sending them are a waste of time because now the admins wont even talk to people.
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No, that's quite sad, they don't respect us. They drafted us to a test panel, but what the hell is the use of a test panel if you don't pay attention to their issues. That was why I wanted out, I proviced to nothing in the test panel but the admins refuse to let me go. I don't see the logic. I just fell as flipped the finger at. And I get so goddamn mad!
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Yes, but this is not 'for good' - here they have taken a perfectly fine (well almost, there were a few minor bugs) submission page and replacing it with an abomiation which does not work
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Considering all of the negative feed back. You'd expect them to get off of their high horse and try to get us off of it! I mean literally it's been up for over two months! For that that long I haven't been able to submit a single picture. I was submitting everyday almost on here. Jack offs!
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Yes, it's ridicilous, now we're at 3 months soon! And I'm so ยง#ยค%& over it! I just want the normal back so I can post my work.
I haven't posted anything since the day before Christmas, and then I had five pictures, and it took me 6ยฝ hour to get them up. Either they were just stashing until I aborted or they uploaded but then they didn't show up at all. The deviation was there but with an empty pic 
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I just used Chrome to upload and it went insanely fast
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& for me it 'uploads' so many times, but then it's nothing there. Or it freezes. You got lucky pal!
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I love how they are so desperate of wanting us the stay here and then they do this to lure us away from this site.
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What you said makes no sense. Honestly, they have so many users that a hundred people could leave and I doubt it would make any difference. Staff doesn't really directly interfere with your life.
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Oh wow...
I know that it won't interfear with my life, I'm talking about being on the site. It has nothing to do with me personally.
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My point was that the staff aren't really desperate for you to stay even if you have a sub.
Frankly, I don't think they care if you leave.
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Yeah I don't even remember my old comment because it's old news....
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Yes, it's strange - totally over my poor head!
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Yep. We're being "held hostage" and being forced to use this new submission page. It doesn't take a mega genius from the BILLIONS of negative feedback to know that MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT! >.<
I hate to say this, but after fussing and leaving bad feedback, I'm just going to suck it up and deal with it.
It's just like YouTube when they needlessly change things up.
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