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LucrataNexarii In reply to ACEnBEAKY [2013-06-02 07:57:47 +0000 UTC]

While I don't tend to prefer to adhere to any given source material - aside from a most general rendering of the SatAM concept - I have many reasons, mostly my own reasons, for depicting Julian as being exceptionally large or imposing.

Unfortunately I have little knowledge of actors and their traits. I'd be the last person to ask of who would make a good depiction of Robotnik.

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LucrataNexarii In reply to JKP [2009-05-31 09:00:07 +0000 UTC]

Greetings, JKP, and thank you for commenting here. It is always good to see the comments of others.

Now then, as for the appearence of the Mobians, I was originally seeking a more realistic essence to them - not so much a factor of learning how to apply a cartooning style to my realistic inclinations, but instead to find the degree to which their individual species could affect their characterization. They are as much a factor in the set of ideas which I have as they are the meduim by which the tale of their society is shown. It does draw a rather 'Aesop's Fables' sort of reflection.

At this hour, I do not have much time or presence of mind to explain, but at this point I would rather not speak too far of this project of mine. Unfortunately it is still a 'hobby idea,' and remains rather nebulous. Work on it continues steadily, however slowly. I have more ideas than notes can generally suffice in encompassing, and far more than my mere sketching could hope to display... But, I am sure a great amount of humanity suffers thus.

Still, your interpretations are quite welcome. Comment at any time you desire; I would be glad to know your thoughts and interpretations at any point, JKP.

Thanks again.

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LucrataNexarii In reply to Ape32 [2009-05-10 19:07:34 +0000 UTC]

Greetings, Ape. It is good to see your return.

Heh, yes, you must be more thoughtful and cautious, Ape. Robotnik is the ruler of the planet, and you must -always- take into consideration his pinnacle of aesthetics and his, er, 'worldly' figure. After all, he is ruler of Mobius, and has the stature to match. When in Rome....

The long process of working with Julian's standing and development within Mobian culture and society has been troublesome to me, not just because it is largely unexplored territory and that my concept within this project is rather divergent, but because the sheer complexity of his dealings therein - his capacities, tendencies, capabilities (known and unknown), and simple proximity - pose as their own obstacle. There is much to be figured in order to keep the storyline/storytelling both as logically consistent as possible, but also dramatic and interesting. A reasonable degree of such consideration has been that of appearence, and just how Julian would contend with his presence in Mobian society - although I can't draw a formal suit worth a cat's hairball, I will have to adapt to that.

... And yes, some Mobians have finally appeared in my sketchbook. One primary theme is just how different Julian is, compared to them. Mobian society, at least in Mobotropolis, is varied and rich, and for the greater part quite tolerant and welcoming of individual differences yet alone speciation; however, Julian is simply so utterly -different- and yet similar all the same, his presence is naturally unsettling.

In my concept Julian does have a few more adaptive characteristics to him, but not all of which are meant to be common knowledge. One case in point, he smirks often, as opposed to smiling... With good reason. Considering his stature and build, one of his greatest social impediments is that he is naturally imposing. Although Mobians are rather used to dealing with individuals descended from carnivorous species, they aren't afflicted with the overt and subtle characteristics which Julian possesses, and naturally his foreign nature is unsettling to many. Heck, the teeth/canines on the man would spook at least 2/3 of the Mobian population. Fear is easily reduced through exposure or understanding, but it's still a raw fact that the guy has that robust, muscular jaw, and some fierce, orderly dentation to compliment it.

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Ape32 In reply to LucrataNexarii [2009-05-10 20:26:23 +0000 UTC]

I dunno, I think you got the formal outfit down pretty good ^^ When it comes to mobians, anything that looks like it was made from the 1800s to 1918 seems to be a pretty good basis for anything the nobility (or those in good with the king) would wear. Hmm.. makes you wonder if King Acorn ever granted ol blubber bolts any noble titles for his service and loyalty to the throne. I mean for all we know, even before he took over the planet he might've had some land to his name. "Baron Kintobor" has a nice ring to it... heck, he already looks like he could be related to Vladimir Harkonnen XD

On the subject of acceptance, depending on what you choose to use from the various stories put forth about Mobius past, Julian might have had Nate Morgan's time among the mobians working in his favor (if you wish to delve into a bit of history by Archie, purveyor of interesting ideas and concepts but poor executors therein). Nate Morgan was a hero to the denizens of Mobotropolis thanks to the technological rennaissance that he helped engineer, and he was a public figure as the teacher and mentor to King Acorn, not to mention an advisor to Acorn's father, prior to the events that would lead him to exile himself from his newfound home. Taking that into account, the mobian populace might take to viewing Kintobor as a second Nate Morgan (it helps that Julian was his protoge way back when), and when you add to the fact that victory for mobians began to pick up when he took the reigns of the army... well, you got yourself a perfect recipe for 'insta-acceptance', or at least a speeded up process of integrations.

Just a thought, mind you.

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LucrataNexarii In reply to Ape32 [2009-05-11 05:34:51 +0000 UTC]

Greetings, Ape.

Unfortunately my story is quite divergent in basis as compared to the Archie line. I have my varying reasons, but I share your sentiment that Archie had set up some fascinating ideas, but had poorly executed the events.

Digressing, I won't go into the nature of my story in hand, but it grants Julian a far more involved perspective - it could be argued that his effect on Mobian society was not as swift and powerful as that of Nate Morgan's, but possesses a greater degree of pervasiveness and circumstantial force. I prefer a more rational and measured apporach to his actions and rise to power, if not also the evolution of his own ideals and his systematic attaining of them in conjunction with the shifting in Mobian dynamics.

Regarding his formal titles and recognition, I am still working through various ideas relating to his capacity within Mobian society and his cooperation with the King. Julian, due to effectually being a savant, would have a very complex relationship with the King and his choices for the direction and maintainence of the Kingdom.

Perhaps that is enough detail (or generality) for now. Still, it's good to read of your suggestions Ape. The Archie material is interesting, but I have always had a strong disagreement with the sudden appearence of Overlanders. I find it weakens that Sonic universe, after a fashion. I do not denounce it entirely, but I merely choose to work with a different outline.

Thanks again, Ape.

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LucrataNexarii In reply to MobianMonster [2009-05-10 07:26:39 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, I'd wanted to preserve his basic sense of age, but not yet his essence of degradedness. Such material would come later, throughout his experience and time.

Personally, from a knowledge standpoint, I have difficultly accurately depicting that much fat on his figure. To wit, much of his abdominal mass is not readily visible from this angle, also due in part to the nature of his robes. Part of the clothing design is as much formal elaboracy as it is a direct effort to reduce the appearence of his (likely intimidating/diagreeable) cropulence.

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MobianMonster In reply to LucrataNexarii [2009-05-10 09:10:42 +0000 UTC]

You could also say that when he was less 'evil' he looked less menacing and the obesity could play a part in his physical corruption from a metaphorical standpoint.

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LucrataNexarii In reply to MobianMonster [2009-05-10 17:34:51 +0000 UTC]

This is also true. My thoughts were as much how his figure would change over time, and just how to use that in the unstated expressiveness of his form. Although obesity is a strong part of his characteristics, volume does not necessarily equate intimidation factor - but by the same merit, his size does not play a direct role in his mannerisms.

I still have plenty of development left to see to with Julian's concept, but I always appreciate your views; thanks again, Geno.

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