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lugia61617 — Mann vs Machine - Expectations vs Reality
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Published: 2012-08-16 09:48:57 +0000 UTC; Views: 4187; Favourites: 19; Downloads: 8862
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yeaaah...this new update was next to NOTHING like what anyone was shown or expected.To clarify:
What was shown to us by Valve through the storyline and trailers:
RED and BLU join forces in groups of six to fight off the grey robot hordes made by Gray Mann, fighting together to defend Mann Co and their jobs. The robots were all shown as blue-lighted, metallic grey things that were clearly awesome.
What Valve GAVE us:
RED and only RED fights off a horde of robots which are all coloured BLU, making this your average RED vs BLU battle with no real feeling of cooperation and COMPLETE disregard to the story that had been built up. Additionally PLAYING it is almost impossible because you'll be stuck in a queue with an estimated time that is so indecisive it's probably the estimated wait time until Half life 3 comes out. Additionally, one would think you'd get some special items dropping now and then, or get something for being around for the update. NOPE. Instead, if you want ANY loot, you must buy a ticket that will only be consumed and give you loot once you win in a 'mission' (one co op course). And, you only get ONE item per ticket. You want anything esle? Buy a different type of ticket!
Meanwhile at Valve...Gaben is swimming in money naked.
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what might have been better is that only pay to play members get loot, and buying tickets would give you more loot. plus the only reason they didn't do red and blu together is that there was too much friendly fire which doesn't seem like something too hard to fix
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Before Mann vs machine update: OH BOY BLU AND RED TOGETHER!
After Mann vs machine update: we're is the BLU guys?
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Idk also reskins...IT SUCKS MONKEY BUTTS LIKE ALL THE FUCKING REST!!!!!!DX<
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Pretty much.
...how is this the one piece of my gallery that keeps getting comments and attention?
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They said it was because play testers kept shooting the Blu's because the Robots looked similar... In that case... MAYBE TURN OFF FRIENDLY FIRE!
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yeah, Valve's dumb like that.
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They are smart as all hell but sometimes...
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Being only RED in MVM was probably the biggest letdown for me - Would have been awesome to have BLU and RED battle the Grey Robots! Though reading the comments below... looks like the story of playtesters struggling to spot friend of foe was true!
Mann up tickets was a bit "wut" as well. :/
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if you want i can tell you my personal headcannon on how Purple can work but im still scared you tell me thats dumb.
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I don't think the idea is dumb, I just don't like Purple as a colour. That's not to say the idea isn't bad.
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heres a mod somemone made that makes Robots Gray and Mercs RED and BLU [link]
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Fine but to me Purple symbolizes red and blu becoming one team with Helen (aka the Administrator) wears purple. I wish i could say more but i dont want to get into another rant.
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true but playtesting has its positives for example Portal 2 had a fourth goo that allowed you to walk up walls but this made Playtesters get motion sickness so Valve cut the 4th goo out of the final game. However Valve could have keep a RED/BLU team by making it a PRL team beacuse purple symbolizes red and blu becoming one team.
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eh, I think purple is a poor idea. If it had just been skins, people wouldn't attack each other because friendly-fire is disabled, thus allowing for the co-operation shown in the various tie-in media.
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That hurts it not our fault that were Hardwired to shoot team members of the the opposite color. For players to have RED/BLU fighting toghter and not each other thats why the playtesters got confused and shot each other and not at the robots even with friendly" fire turned off. Im not forcing you to Use purple team MOD. I was just showing you another way to enjoy MvM what wrong with Finding a Compromise. infact i was going to tell you Own personal headcannon on how purple Could work MVM but i dont know if i can now you might hate that too.
okay i was just angry that i thougt of a Poor idea and Not think of a Rich idea. If you dont beleve me go ahead and call me a troll and report me i dont care anymore
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Oh, okay. Sorry for offending you. I suppose it makes sense if they used people who were hardwired to shoot the other team. Considering I'm a much newer and for now, ex TF2 player that hardwiring doesn't apply so I just find the concept an easy one to manage.
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well to fix that i found these mods
this one for grey robots
[link]
and this one for Purple mercs
[link]
the reason the mercs were RED only early playtests both had red and blu both defending playtesters got confused and attacked each other so valve recolored mercs red and machines blu
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those must have been some pretty dumb playtesters.
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so true, but the person was grey so. . . grey bots? (slaps self for no reason)
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waiting times are better now in the mornings, though they still need to do something about the teams. A little skin shouldn't be too hard.
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instead of Reds only valve should have recolored the teams purple for MvM
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This could be just a false thing to think about, but if RED is defending and the "BLU" horde are the attackers, could this lead to an "Operation: Saboteur" update, where the BLU are going for the offensive while the robots are on the defensive?
Just a thought.
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that would be neat, but I'd still rather have some update that applies a different skin to the players to give an illusion of two-team action.
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It's a 2 minute wait now. Though I still recommend the good ol' server browser.
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What makes me most angry is that it is not Red and Blu working together, just Red, if they fix that in an update I will take back EVERYTHING I SAID. Because even if the update was a little disappointing, it still is fun.
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same. The mdoe would also gain in popularity, too. I've still been unable to play it except on my own in my own server that nobody else can enter for some reason, and it could be fun with a full team..but I get the feeling the robots are too tough.
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Also the upgrade system, remember that feeling, when you've upgraded your favourite class, but you know you need to be someone else to beat this ave, annoys the hell outta me.
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I'm more annoyed that I crafted an Upgrade Canteen using 4 scrap metal (which took forever to make), only to find it's more or less useless since it's unlikely I'll play MVM
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I think the red only was because I don't think they could program it, I think soon they will update fixing that I think its just some programing errors
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What bothers me the most is that I thought it was going to be Red AND Blu working together againest the GRAY robot army. But nope, we just have another payload type gameplay, just only 6 guys againest an army of robots that never reload, spam grenades, and rockets. -_-
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YUP.
Though, I looked at the trailer again and noticed they do have blu paint jobs...well, the demoman did anyway, but it was a nice shade.
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And don't even get me started on the soldiers and demomans!
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I won't. I don't like either class normally (I'm a spy. I only go after Snipers, Medics and Heavies, while I try avoiding Scouts, Soldiers, Demomen, Engineers in their 'nests' and of course ze pyro who is a SOULLESS MONSTER!
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Cool...
Anyway, want to play a game? Send me an invite, tag is: CTCSHOTER77.
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I'm good for now thanks.
- digihuman .
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Its funny because the fans really ARE sucking the teats dry. I paid twenty bucks for a game, and you know how many hours of fun I got out of it? 1,300 hours. I got WAY over my moneys worth of fun from this game. I will NEVER complain about having to pay for ANYTHING, because the way I see it? I owe the VALVe team for all the fun. They owe us NOTHING. A bunch of people want special drops to happen if oyou paid for the game.. acting as if they still have to pay you off. Theyve paid us off, theyve given us a great game. Developers, testers, artists, all those guys need some cash, and 99 cents for AN ENTIRE SLEW of missions that will take weeks if not months to complete sounds WAY over fair to me. And the wait times are under a few minutes if you use a ticket, so I dont get the big deal. To me, the tickets are just a way of keeping little kids out of Mann Up Mode.. they wont want to pay it or wont be able to spend their parents money.
But I do have a huge problem with MvM.. and that is how MvM is impossible to beat, even for experienced layers such as myself and the crew Ive been playing with. Its just not fun after a certain point. I dont even want to know how bad it must be for the new players who ARENT that great at TF2.. poor bastards will never win.
So yeah, MvM is some bullshit, but I dont think its bullshit because of the waiting times. These times are temporary and will go down soon, Im sure. And the tickets Im actually glad for.
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I wasn't making this in spite of the game, just in spite of MvM's overall crappiness.
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Agreed. They need to make a "I have studying to do and a job to get sleep for" mode so I can beat it and get on with my life already!
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Gabe's on vacation in Africa until September 3rd.
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Don't you think, because everyone wants to play the new gametype, there would be an influx of players that would cause lots of waiting?
Meaning the problem isn't Valve, but the love of the fans?
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That's the problem with the length of the queues, but...*sigh* I'm not even going to bother going through it again...
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I will. I already knew waiting times / server lag was going to be an issue, but overall I can't help but feel Valve were a tad lazy with this update, despite putting so much effort into promotion. Right, enough of this, time to get back to watching Deadman.
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