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alrite...so apparently dA got some sorta new category specifically for fanart? 'bout time. but...nothing for comics? ;_; now i gotta go back and edit the previous categories !@#%#anyway...what does the title read? reddescent? reticent? hotel Radisson? no...the red's raph, d'oh. it's his descent. descent into wut? i have no effin clue ahha...just some random concept that hit me on a drive home and it latched onto my brain like some insidious leech.
this sorta stuff here is closer to my usual style of painting no? i thought i'd depict at least one of the turtles in my usual style...with the other three soon to follow. whatever soon means for me anyway.
thanks in advance for any horrific insults to my intelligence!
TMNT Β© Mirage
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This is so sad!!!! But so amazing too!!! 
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Nooo!!! Raph!! D: Good job on teh picture
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wow that is really beautiful! I hope there is a fic that goes with this
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reminds me of a fic i read about all the turtles tied to the bottom of a glass box that slowly fills with water and they have to watch each other drown.... OnO
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Very pretty~
I love the lighting and the bubbles.
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ooh very nice work o.o wish i could draw and color like this >_o 
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wow O.O intense. that's really all I can think to say....
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Oh. My. God! This looks beautiful. Unfortuantly, I'll have to ruin the moment by saving Raph from drowning, but it's very pretty!
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LOVE IT !yay!
love the colors! whoa how do you do it?! XD
agian wonderfull!
*it looks so real! and love the weapon and the turtle*^w^
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NICE WORK!....however, it kinda looks like he's ascending to me. Like we are on the bottom of the ocean floor and he is floating upwards to the surface. I love it!
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that's a cool interpretation...thanks
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Body contortions are a little... odd :\ however, the lighting and concept totally rock.
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anatomy or pose? cuz i'd like to know where i went wrong in attempt to fix it!
thanks
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Well... several things, but right off the bat, the foreshortening just doesn't make sense at the ankle. (The hip is another thing, but for now you can let that slide).
At first, it looks like the left leg is going BACK by the way you shade it, but then you make it seem like it's coming forward by the foreshortening of the foot, which is unnaturally contorted, like is trying very hard to bend his foot inward towards his knee. So basically, the "foreshortening" on the foot DOES NOT MATCH that of the leg.
Show less of the sole of the left foot and more of its top. Either that or foreshorten the leg a little more. (i.e. if you want to show that much sole, we should see more calf and less thigh, with the knee looking relatively closer to the body.)
Overall, I think that sums up what feels "wrong" -- Raph looks way too tense considering he is unconscious and underwater. Raph is out cold, so think limp -- the extra-twisted foot would never happen by accident. Right now, he looks like he is straining to arch his back. His head is way back -- the head wouldn't do that by accident unless someone is actively trying to reach his back with the crown of his head -- or unless it is whiplash... which doesn't make sense to me as a swimmer for twelve years. Water acts sort of like a cushion in that it supports the body more than air, so there should be lots of resistance against whatever force drove him under.
Sorry, I'm getting tired. Hope you could make some sense of that. 
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well i've tried fixing the foot problem. short of a complete paintover of that foot (cuz i stupidly merged the entire composition of him onto a single layer) this is the best i could achieve!
but what about the hip? i can't honestly tell what's wrong with that...mm...is it too narrow?
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Um... *freezes in panic*
Which... foot... did you "fix" just recently?....
When I said left foot, I meant RAPHAEL's left foot, and his LEFT leg. The right leg and right foot were by and large, fine.
Before I say anything else, which leg did you alter?
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i was sort of expecting a response like this...since it's often hard to tell what was fixed over what wasn't unless you have a copy of the original for comparison.
but his left foot was fixed. if you notice, now there's light visible where it should be near his foot, towards the lower end of his calf and his left sole is also visible. that aside, there's also slight ambient light bouncing off of the bottom (visually) side of his left sole, meaning it's not bent upward anymore.
i did nothing to alter the thigh or shape of calf themselves because i honestly can't tell what's wrong with them.
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Ah... so the coloring is all you are altering at this point. I see...
In that case, I'd leave it alone. Honestly, you've gone this far with developing the idea already.
We can quibble about the legs, but there's not much more you can "fix" if you're only going to alter the lighting and color. Raph's inner left toe should be towards us a little more (that is, bring it down a little so it obscures the right toe, which you should move up in a likewise manner.) This in effect actually rotates his foot slightly--damn I gotta go. I'll be back in a sec!
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mm, i'll try that
well yeah i would leave it alone but these things drive me insane, especially when it comes to anatomy because i'm workin on it, since i used to rely too heavily on references. but since this will be essentially part of a series (im obsessed with series) of the four of'm in this style, i wanna get this all right before i move on, if that makes any sense.
but thanks for your input!
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mmmm i just caught that...i was actually looking at it a moment before you made this comment and thanks to your affirmation...i now know light is hitting his left calf in all the wrong places...making it seem like his foot is sorta detached (or forcefully bent inward).
yeah he is stiff...cuz i had a lot of trouble figuring out how to get him into that sorta pose without making his shell bendable or summin. but i gotta admit that im unfamiliar with people (or turtles) falling through water...so that was a learning experience. although, i hadn't intentionally made it seem as if he's unconscious or out cold. more like he's been hit hard and the moment he plunged into waer, he's trying to make sense of where he's headed...if that made sense. strange scene i've picked, i know...ahah.
and uh no sweat, it made perfect sense. i'll be fixin that tomorrow after i get off work...thanks much!
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Woah. Raph looks great in your style, seriously. I look forward to any future renditions of the Turtles.
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thanks...so do i. by that i mean looking forward to enough free time to get on that
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oooo very awesome I love it! makes me want a print on my wall ;^;
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sorry but that can't happen either, lol...mirage isn't my intellectual property
but thanks for the thought!
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WEEEEE!!!!! You did another one ...*gasp* and this time it's Ralph...LOL it looks awesome!!!
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Yay for a TMNT fan! My brother and I love them -dispite an eight year age difference- and this pic is awesome! Kudos to starting with Raphael (did I spell that right? Two more letters and it's my name, so I never know just how it's supposed to be written)
Looking forward to the other turtles, considering how awesome this one is. I love the weapon arrangement, it's just perfect.
Sorry. That was weird and cheesy... and probably a little insane.
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i did donnie and leo before raph, lol. it's just that i didn't do them in my usual style (like seen here)
but thanks much.
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Oh, I see... I'll have to search them out then!
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again! i love the colors! your so talented!
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It looks so ethereal and dream-like, as if he's reliving the days where his ancestors were merely turtles that swam through swamps and ate little fish. 
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haha....that's a good way of thinkin about it. didn't see it that way...your comment adds +1 pwnage.
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lol man.. this piece is awesome `n all, but can you start working on other things other than tmnt?
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Looks fantastic, so much detail and I truly like the use of light. Just out of curiosity, did you use Painter?
Looking forward to the other three
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Cool, that's great to know... gives me hope
Everybody seems to think Painter is the greatest invention, but I'm still stuck to good ol' Photoshop hehe
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heh you responded to your own comment so i couldn't see.
but yeah, i should try that out some day...but so far photoshop's been able to do all i wanted so...
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I know... hehe, me, retarded. But as you can't delete messages here I had to leave it that way
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thanks!...but nope unfortunately im actually not acquainted with painter, at all..lol. i use photoshop cs only
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