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After being on DeviantArt for a few years now, I've noticed patterns in people's stories. Patterns, that I can't say I've ever seen until I started using the internet. I believe that's because these kind of patterns are thoroughly unprofessional. The pattern in short is this:Character = victim
Plot = bad things happening to said victim
Maybe this sounds harsh. It's not if you understand that is ALL there is to these stories. They take any character, hurl them into a tragedy and that's it.
Let's get this straight: We do not know your character well enough to care about them yet. No matter how bloody and gutty their injuries are, no matter how many of their family members are deceased, no matter what their boyfriend did to them, no matter what kind of disease they have, WE. DO. NOT. CARE!!!!!
These kind of things are sad in themselves, but WHO is this person we're supposed to feel so horrible for? Establish THAT. It should be your absolute FIRST priority: no exceptions.
No more pasting faces onto the same cardboard-cut-out sob story protagonist.
If you want readers to care, you must FIRST GIVE THEM A HUMAN BEING TO CARE FOR.
If you don't, yes of course you are still going to get comments from emotional people who find your story intriguing. That is not the point.
The absolute WORST thing you can do is (I hate saying this), taking comments from people on the internet seriously (about your writing, that is).
People who have no CLUE about literature will post comments on the most unprofessional writings and say things like, "This made me cry. You are like the next J.K Rowling."
DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE THINGS LIKE TWILIGHT AND 50 SHADES OF GREY POSSIBLE.
All I'm saying is that if you think things like Twilight are insults to literature, I beg you to take the advice given above. If not, what can I say but: carry on. Let the age of Mary Sue begin.
We need to remember: a rich story is made up of so much more than only one element; it can't rely only on being "dark," or "tragic" or "romantic." These things are for bringing out emotion. It's ESSENTIAL that there is something worth being emotional ABOUT.
That is how you tell a beautiful story.
And even then, if you give us something we truly care about, you'll realize "I can make something even less tragic happen and it will have a much greater effect now."
Sometimes you'll even realize that being subtle is even more disturbing and "dark" than going all out.
I said it before, I'll say it again: drama is the anti-suspense. Drama needs something to feed on or else it is dead.
It's up to you to make casual, every-day scenes interesting too.
Humor is a particularly wonderful tool for making characters appealing. The more appealing the character, the more the audience will care when they suffer.
Think of your favorite cartoon character. Now imagine if they died. Not a funny, cartoon-ish death where we know that they'll be all right again in three seconds.
Pretend they came to a permanent end that was actually portrayed very tragically and non-sarcastically.
Kind of leaves you with a disturbed feeling, doesn't it? If this is the way you want your audience to feel about your characters, then follow this example. It doesn't mean your character has to be as silly as a cartoon character, it just means we should feel like we know them in such a way that we can feel their pain.
In short: don't give us another card-board soap opera. Give us something to love.
No more "I'm going to drench this character in blood and my story will automatically be deep!" If that's as deep as you can get, you must be very shallow indeed.
EDIT: CLARIFICATION
I'm saying that introducing the character should be first *priority,* not necessarily the first thing in the story. The point being, don't write a story that you worry about the character second to the soap opera.
Of course many stories (Harry Potter included) start off with bad things happening. This is because they're crucial to setting up the entire story. The point is not to expect your audience to be scandalized yet.
Also, when you read this guide, assume I'm talking about writing seriously. I'm not picking on those of you writing for practice/fun/etc.
This is a concern because things like this are being published these days. If this isn't your goal, carry on by all means.
I posted this because it's getting to the point where there is no unique style. This is the style that most beginners (and therefore most people) tend to use. I'm not picking on beginners, just pointing out not to settle with the first, most obvious style of writing that no one encourages them to grow beyond.
Are there people who enjoy this kind of writing? Of course. But why is it all we should be content with?
The attitude should be something like this: make the character deep enough for whatever you're writing.
If it's a short deviation, naturally less so than in a novel.
Same if it's not the point of the thing you're writing (say you're just trying to bring out a moral or something).
However, if you expect to write a sob story this is highly important.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to ??? [2013-06-10 01:44:30 +0000 UTC]
As I said, the attitude should be something like this: make the character deep enough for whatever you're writing.
If it's a short deviation, naturally less so than in a novel.
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HolyMaiden In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 21:51:45 +0000 UTC]
It can be pretty difficult to write a story, but I usually know what I enjoy when reading or watching a show.
-I prefer characters who do have flaws. If a Mary Sue is meant to be flawless, then it's not going to be an intresting story. Characters who can overcome their flaws or brought down because of those flaws in a story are the ones that feel more human. (Shakespeare has had some pretty intresting characters because of this- even though Romeo and Juliet's flaw of being hasty wants me to smack them- and even in the Batman comics are the antagonists more intresting than the man himself.)
-If there is any romance, I prefer it to be at risk if it's present, or if there's going to be something that I'm hoping for between the characters, the suspense keeps my intrest. Otherwise it can be suffocating. (Although I didn't initally support the pairing, the patience required for a certain couple in the Harry Potter books paid off in the final book... while Twilight's romance was suffocating AND stupidly frusterating.)
-Being in a total pit of despair is the same as suffocation. If it's something to relate, that's fine, but yeah, it shouldn't drag out.
-If there's any questions or mystery present, it should be answered unless it's intended for our interpretation. (the show LOST is famous for having too many unanswered questions at the end.)
-particular themes are HARD to break from if you favor them. Especially when they are in most of your stories.
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LimeBubblez [2013-06-09 21:40:00 +0000 UTC]
Can I just like... hug you for this right now? I'm sure I'm guilty of some of this, to some extent that I don't know, but still... way to put it out there!
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CheeTree [2013-06-09 21:18:44 +0000 UTC]
thats fucked up XD making someone care about the character, then crushing them. it brilliant!!
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BDancinJones [2013-06-09 21:17:39 +0000 UTC]
This is exactly why I find myself skimming over so much of the writing here on DA. People start telling their sob stories before I have any reason to feel anything. I also checked out the list of cliches and the Mary Sue explanation, and I think that these three pieces, along with the Elements of Style, are perhaps the most crucial and basic guides to writing I've at least heard of. Thanks!
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Enthriex [2013-06-09 20:45:59 +0000 UTC]
Truly incredible, I love reading about what you have to say Hmm I totally agree with this and you may have given me in what else to consider when reading a story :3
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nykol-haebrd [2013-06-09 20:34:02 +0000 UTC]
You make some really good points here. I agree with you. As a writing tutor myself, I come across far too many people who just create 'talking heads,' then kill them off. Thanks for this ^_^
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LolipopCandii [2013-06-09 20:27:50 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for this post. I see this all the time, too, and I think it really needs to be addressed. I'm happy this is also a DD! ^ ^
I've read stories that were so well written that it made me cry at something as small as the character not being able to graduate or have that tasty piece of bread like they always have it.
I can't seem to bring myself to read anything where the tragedy has already been established especially when I don't understand the characters. The true emotionally impacting stories for me are the ones that seem to assure me that no, this bad thing won't happen. You don't even think that something bad will happen, but it does and it's terrible.
I don't know how similar this is for most people, but with movies I can't cry until the middle of the movie, or at least after the characters have been well established. Same goes for anything written even in manga, anime, video games, etc. Especially in anime. There are certain anime that are very popular right now that I can't get into simply because they did a crappy job of the emotional appeals. A bunch of people die in the first episode. We got to see their regular lives for a moment before this, but I don't really know the characters well enough to care that they died. Yeah, death is sad, some people may cry no matter what just because of what it is, but it won't truly affect them unless they are taken to another level of understanding
I think this is helpful as an eye opener to beginners. When I was younger and writing cliched filled fanfics my mind completely changed just from reading something similar to this. It's good that your write this.
(Sorry for the long comment, I just had a lot of stuff to say about this...even though I'm just repeating what you said...XD)
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HolyMaiden In reply to LolipopCandii [2013-06-09 22:01:13 +0000 UTC]
I have to agree with you on the movie bit. Characters who are established very well in the story- and especially have real flaws- have ended up bringing tears to my eye.
If you've seen the recent movie adaptation of the Lorax, it's an example of a mixed bag: on one hand, there was the added subplot stuff that was added not only to try and hammer a message, but also... I just couldn't give a damn over the romantic subplot. What made me cry was the ultimate resolution for the Onceler that- while it took away the ambiguity of the original story- it was exactly what I was hoping for and it hit me HARD.
And of course, this applies to shows too: but if I keep seeing GIFs of those tear jearker scenes on tumblr, I either feel sad, or annoyed for repetitiveness.
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LolipopCandii In reply to HolyMaiden [2013-06-10 00:48:00 +0000 UTC]
I haven't seen that movie, but I can understand how that could work. I mean, at least there's some glimmer of gold from that movie! XD
Recently I read a manga, just one chapter of it, and it had me in tears only because the characters, even the minor ones, spent the majority of the time being fleshed out. You have your crude, but compassionate police man, and then the curious little boy who feels lonely because his parents don't gush over him like his little brother. And then the little boy attempts suicide...Just hearing a little boy attempt suicide is sad, but the fact that I understood WHY he did it tore me apart. That's good writing. Let the viewer/reader understand the scene, not just see it.
I can think of only one movie that can make me cry without context and that's the scene at the end of Under the Hawthorne Tree. But that still has parts that can be relatable and make us feel for the characters. It's a very powerful scene not because it's so sad, but because I could understand how the characters felt. That was the only good scene of that movie for me...XD
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S-E-Mercury In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 20:15:43 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for writing this! I think it is something every aspiring writer should read.
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ZeldaOkami In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 19:47:51 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for such great insight! Now i definiteky know what to avoid in writing
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QuiEstInLiteris In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 18:59:45 +0000 UTC]
Ugh, now you've got me thinking. I'm too tired to think right now. xD
If you've got time to read about half of a first-draft novel, I'd appreciate your thoughts on my current WIP: [link]
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GinnyW3 In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 18:59:16 +0000 UTC]
Well, someone had to say it! Just glad it didn't have to be me. And yes, I totally agree with this. It's fine if you're just posting that junk on Deviantart, but it becomes more personal when that sort of stuff is all that's being published nowadays. I'm running out of good reading material! We need more good authors that can write non-sob-stories.
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Rion-The-Fox In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 18:08:02 +0000 UTC]
I found this highly informative.
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aurora-celest [2013-06-09 18:00:36 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the creative writing tutorials, mate. There's not enough on this website and this is one is great for budding artists learning the writing craft, and it's a great reminder for veterans. I'll be sure to check out your other pieces, .
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BeccaJS In reply to aurora-celest [2013-06-09 18:46:14 +0000 UTC]
There are loads actually, have you checked out #CRLiterature or #projecteducate ? The latter is about to launch a whole week on how to plan a story
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Jadesweetboxx In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 17:56:02 +0000 UTC]
whoever suggest this as a DD is a genius!
Thank you for writing this. I love to read. Twilight and 50 Shades hurts my brain after reading the first 100 pages.
I.cannot.understand.how.people.can.keep.on.reading.a.writing.that.bad!
I think most bad writers nowadays create the heroine based of themselves and don't really feel the need to build the character for viewers to understand.
You're right. in most bad YA novels, I don't give a crap about what happened to them, and I don't feel connected to them.
Tabitha Suzuma, C.J.Roberts, and Antonia Michaelis are my favorite writers, because their writing style effortlessly introduce me to the main character and let me peek inside their mind and heart.
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photo-girly In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 17:32:51 +0000 UTC]
twilight and 50 sfumatures of gray sucks, try to read "the chronicles of narnia" or some books of Licia Troisi, then tell me... apart on that part that you said that those where beautiful books, i'm with you.
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GodsGirlRachel In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 17:29:47 +0000 UTC]
Thank you SO MUCH.
I can finally have my father read this and understand why I NEVER want to see Twilight or the Walking Dead! XD I mean, I've seen clips from Twilight I DO like, and smaller stories within the over all story for WD, but.... Ug, they are so cookie cutter. And WD uses the same predictable story SO much! They'd both be WAY better if they followed this advice, and let themselves breathe! XP
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JWA2277 [2013-06-09 17:27:38 +0000 UTC]
Well said, and I shall consider this!
If I may be so bold, I am starting a Mini Series, Singularity Fall
[link] "Let us review"
[link] "The Chair"
Could you have a look and comment, Positive or negative, Because I do want this to be a serious story(despite some necessary clichΓ©s), I do not want to fall into the trap you describe, But I am only starting out. I Have a bad habit of blowing things whenever I get writers block, which dose work for the "Futurist" story I am trying to wright!
Thanks.
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Ridderkvinden In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 17:25:27 +0000 UTC]
First of all, congratulations on the DD Second of all, this made for an interesting read
I like to write stories, allthough I do it only for fun and to attempt to become better at it. I have always loved to read, and on that point, I am a bit like most other people I guess. Sometimes I am in the mood to read something epic, deep and truly impressive. Other times, I simply enjoy to read something simple where I don't really have to think too much. Depends a lot on my mood, and a lot on my state of mind
I would like to see comments on literature from you to get more in-depth discussions on styles of writing
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nikittykatakatsuki In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 17:21:19 +0000 UTC]
*applaud* bravo, bravo!
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sevenofeleven In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 17:16:23 +0000 UTC]
Sounds good but the problem will not go away.
Unless there are more helping hands for beginners so they can improve you will see the same stuff over and over.
Yeah there are tutorials all over the place on the internet.
Tutorials don't help if you have a blind spot or no clear idea what is wrong.
A lot of beginners and people of other levels need that human touch.
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Rohvannyn In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:49:29 +0000 UTC]
So very true. Thank you for using very popular, common books as examples. Some of the most popular books out there are actually some of the most poorly written, in many cases. This includes many of the so-called classics. I always celebrate when I find a book that is not only popular, but also good.
In my favorite stories, the author takes the time to set up the character's life and let you know why you should care before they start raining bombs, or whatever. It's amazing what even a few sentences will do. I've also seen stories where the author starts with a big, dramatic event, but they will interweave details about the main character that make you care, as the action goes on.
Thank you for highlighting this so-often forgotten aspect of writing.
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NataLeeSan In reply to Rohvannyn [2013-06-09 17:24:24 +0000 UTC]
If this were facebook I would 'like your comment
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BalunStormhands In reply to Rohvannyn [2013-06-09 17:17:55 +0000 UTC]
That is the unnerving thing. Why do the poorly written classics have such legs? What are these poorly written but very popular books doing right? That is the answer I have yet to figure out.
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Rohvannyn In reply to BalunStormhands [2013-06-09 20:14:37 +0000 UTC]
Sometimes, I believe people just want simple stories. It has always been true, just look at the pulp novels, the romances, and the other popular fiction out there.
Sometimes something becomes a "classic" because it's good. Sometimes it becomes a "classic" just because many people are familiar with it. The same is true for music. Some songs aren't very well made, but they are catchy, so they are popular.
Certain fiction actually makes the hero or heroine rather vague, so it is easy for the reader to overlay their own dreams, aspirations, and personality, and thereby immerse themselves more fully into the story. I believe that explains at least one of the really popular series out there.
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BalunStormhands In reply to Rohvannyn [2013-06-09 22:55:27 +0000 UTC]
Some are simple like fairy tales, some are much more complex like Notre Dame de Paris, yet both are classics. Yet how to extract the best of each to make my own stories better.
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0bsidianFire In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:47:49 +0000 UTC]
As someone who loves character exploration as much as plot dissection, thank you, thank you thank you!
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JamieMaguire In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:39:12 +0000 UTC]
I agree with the sentiment ... absolutely stunned that this one a DD. After all, this is just basic stuff that people should know over a cup of coffee ...
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Mumume In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:37:35 +0000 UTC]
Personally, I agree the tradgedy is not the only kind of story, and that diversity is essential to story making, however, stories in of themselves are formats of FREE EXPRESSION. If a person, deep down inside feels the need to write a blood and guts tail of sorrow, then they should. Not everyone writes to become a great and powerful author, and from my point of view, the most successful stories are the ones that break the format of a good story. Mass market fiction is mass market fiction for a reason. Its simple, it connects with people in a simple way, and they enjoy it passively. Nothing complex, deep, or heavily thought out, just simple.
There is no story cookie cutter. Some stories don't even have characters. Some are character driven, others are all together undefinable. How not to tell a story: Don't tell it at all. That's the only real rule I think anyone should follow. Let the people be tragic.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to Mumume [2013-06-09 20:47:07 +0000 UTC]
The point is that this kind of writing is usually poorly done, not that people shouldn't do it. I agree, it's possible for anyone to like anything in the world. That doesn't mean anything is necessarily good or well done.
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BeccaJS In reply to Mumume [2013-06-09 18:43:47 +0000 UTC]
There is a difference in writing for personal expression and writing for intent of publishing. Audience is a key element of good story writing.
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Mumume In reply to BeccaJS [2013-06-10 02:17:33 +0000 UTC]
Thus, I stated, "Not everyone writes to become a great and powerful author..."
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Idontknowwhoyouknow In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:33:52 +0000 UTC]
This is a really great explanation! And you did deserve that DD!
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SoliderSide In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:30:08 +0000 UTC]
I think this is great! I'll definitely make sure to think about this the next time I start working again, I'm not sure it'll make a difference but I honestly think it's something every writer should keep in the back of their minds!
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arcanehalo In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:26:37 +0000 UTC]
I've been writing random stories since I was a kid, and I've been here but I've gone far from it already, though I'm still working on building more and more in every character.
Just wanna say, this is something every semi-seasoned writer knows, but you worded it to a t.
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Adonael In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:17:08 +0000 UTC]
Despite my urge to undermine this, I do agree with you on a lot of points - I personally dislike a lot of the books you brought up myself because they exemplify the same shallow human behaviour. There's no real essence or character to them - they're "soap operas", as you say.
However those writers will have either been smart, or had smart editors - they knew that the average modern reader doesn't want a difficult story because it means they'll have to think for a moment (God forbid...) and when books have to compete with television and films as well, it further pushes the motivation that books have to be easy to read.
So I guess...let the writers write (which you ultimately said), but if the modern age warrants that readers want an easy book, then in my head it's more the reader's fault for necessitating that kind of market. If anything, I can imagine writers will be thrilled because it's easier to exploit that kind of market. That shouldn't be the case. A story should be profound and thought-provoking, one way or another and I'm glad those stories still exist today, but otherwise, I say, let them make their decision.
That aside, you bravely wrote this and you wrote it well. I respect that. You probably already know this, but just ignore the arrogance of people who probably feel offended because their work is in danger of being belittled and that they'll have to improve (which to them is a scary and impossible prospect...)
Fave and DD well-deserved.
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PinkamenaPunk In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:09:28 +0000 UTC]
I agree with this, however, concerning the "sob story protagonist" issue, I must say that Harry Potter's guardians hated him and locked him under the stairs, and he was upset, but was still a well rounded character that was a great addition to a wonderful book series.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to PinkamenaPunk [2013-06-09 21:56:29 +0000 UTC]
That's exactly what I was addressing when I said, "but don't expect them to be scandalized yet." All those things helped set up the story, but they alone aren't what people love the story for. If that was all there was to it, it certainly wouldn't be what it is today.
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PinkamenaPunk In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2013-06-09 21:58:19 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I see! Thank you. That helps a lot. I suddenly feel like a better writer. O_O
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