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After being on DeviantArt for a few years now, I've noticed patterns in people's stories. Patterns, that I can't say I've ever seen until I started using the internet. I believe that's because these kind of patterns are thoroughly unprofessional. The pattern in short is this:Character = victim
Plot = bad things happening to said victim
Maybe this sounds harsh. It's not if you understand that is ALL there is to these stories. They take any character, hurl them into a tragedy and that's it.
Let's get this straight: We do not know your character well enough to care about them yet. No matter how bloody and gutty their injuries are, no matter how many of their family members are deceased, no matter what their boyfriend did to them, no matter what kind of disease they have, WE. DO. NOT. CARE!!!!!
These kind of things are sad in themselves, but WHO is this person we're supposed to feel so horrible for? Establish THAT. It should be your absolute FIRST priority: no exceptions.
No more pasting faces onto the same cardboard-cut-out sob story protagonist.
If you want readers to care, you must FIRST GIVE THEM A HUMAN BEING TO CARE FOR.
If you don't, yes of course you are still going to get comments from emotional people who find your story intriguing. That is not the point.
The absolute WORST thing you can do is (I hate saying this), taking comments from people on the internet seriously (about your writing, that is).
People who have no CLUE about literature will post comments on the most unprofessional writings and say things like, "This made me cry. You are like the next J.K Rowling."
DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE THINGS LIKE TWILIGHT AND 50 SHADES OF GREY POSSIBLE.
All I'm saying is that if you think things like Twilight are insults to literature, I beg you to take the advice given above. If not, what can I say but: carry on. Let the age of Mary Sue begin.
We need to remember: a rich story is made up of so much more than only one element; it can't rely only on being "dark," or "tragic" or "romantic." These things are for bringing out emotion. It's ESSENTIAL that there is something worth being emotional ABOUT.
That is how you tell a beautiful story.
And even then, if you give us something we truly care about, you'll realize "I can make something even less tragic happen and it will have a much greater effect now."
Sometimes you'll even realize that being subtle is even more disturbing and "dark" than going all out.
I said it before, I'll say it again: drama is the anti-suspense. Drama needs something to feed on or else it is dead.
It's up to you to make casual, every-day scenes interesting too.
Humor is a particularly wonderful tool for making characters appealing. The more appealing the character, the more the audience will care when they suffer.
Think of your favorite cartoon character. Now imagine if they died. Not a funny, cartoon-ish death where we know that they'll be all right again in three seconds.
Pretend they came to a permanent end that was actually portrayed very tragically and non-sarcastically.
Kind of leaves you with a disturbed feeling, doesn't it? If this is the way you want your audience to feel about your characters, then follow this example. It doesn't mean your character has to be as silly as a cartoon character, it just means we should feel like we know them in such a way that we can feel their pain.
In short: don't give us another card-board soap opera. Give us something to love.
No more "I'm going to drench this character in blood and my story will automatically be deep!" If that's as deep as you can get, you must be very shallow indeed.
EDIT: CLARIFICATION
I'm saying that introducing the character should be first *priority,* not necessarily the first thing in the story. The point being, don't write a story that you worry about the character second to the soap opera.
Of course many stories (Harry Potter included) start off with bad things happening. This is because they're crucial to setting up the entire story. The point is not to expect your audience to be scandalized yet.
Also, when you read this guide, assume I'm talking about writing seriously. I'm not picking on those of you writing for practice/fun/etc.
This is a concern because things like this are being published these days. If this isn't your goal, carry on by all means.
I posted this because it's getting to the point where there is no unique style. This is the style that most beginners (and therefore most people) tend to use. I'm not picking on beginners, just pointing out not to settle with the first, most obvious style of writing that no one encourages them to grow beyond.
Are there people who enjoy this kind of writing? Of course. But why is it all we should be content with?
The attitude should be something like this: make the character deep enough for whatever you're writing.
If it's a short deviation, naturally less so than in a novel.
Same if it's not the point of the thing you're writing (say you're just trying to bring out a moral or something).
However, if you expect to write a sob story this is highly important.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to ??? [2013-03-09 00:51:55 +0000 UTC]
Yup, these things usually go hand in hand.
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dasherella In reply to ??? [2013-03-07 05:29:03 +0000 UTC]
You make a tremendous point!
This is specially true to fanfic writers that switch then to writing. (I'm not saying all, but some.) Due to the amount of praise and salutes you get on your fanfic, you automatically think in the terms of "I'm the best thing that ever happened to novels since Tolkein!"
But the first few paragraphs of your post had me confused. I later realised you mean, "Don't pile on the dirt on your character just so you assume you can make him sympathetic."
However, there is an implication in your post asking writers NOT to write characters that are undergoing problems. Or maybe I just read it wrong! XD
Anyways, using your advice I hope someone writes something in which the character is the antagonist, I always love to read such things.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to dasherella [2013-03-07 16:08:09 +0000 UTC]
No, I'm not saying it's bad to make a character have a bunch of problems, I'm pretty much just saying it's bad to write about a character we're not going to care about that has a bunch of problems.
And you're right, I think that happens to fanfiction writers often because they are used to already using characters that people care about.
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dasherella In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2013-04-01 07:39:15 +0000 UTC]
True. That is why character development is so important. I myself talk to my characters in my head for ages and develop them from just a name and an age... You need to know your character embarrassingly intimately, if you are going to make other people care
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Dinos4Breakfast In reply to ??? [2013-03-07 03:59:07 +0000 UTC]
I never write stuff to put on here although I am a great writer... at least that's what my all A grade papers throughout high school has said..... I doubt I really am. I should try it sometime and see what happens...
Anyway, I can completely see what you're saying. I think people forget the character because they themselves already know them so well and they just want to get the story out... Why not write a happy story? hm. Last year we had a saying "If you have an oblivious happy kid, send them to Honors English. It won't last long." just because everything we read is "sad"
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Irixian In reply to Dinos4Breakfast [2013-03-08 17:11:48 +0000 UTC]
Considering your incorrect overuse of the ellipsis and the justification of said talent being based on a high school teacher's letter grade, I wouldn't get too far ahead of myself, my friend
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Dinos4Breakfast In reply to Irixian [2013-03-08 18:17:05 +0000 UTC]
ok. I'm typing a message. That's different. I don't care about any of that in a message. But, hey, I'm sure someone online who has never even met me knows what I can and can't do. I apologize if I seem a bit short, but I don't appreciate being put down. I am sorry I'm not GREAT like you. I'm done talking about this.
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Irixian In reply to Dinos4Breakfast [2013-03-08 18:19:42 +0000 UTC]
When you speak of yourself as great, it is necessary to provide the proper context. iF u TipE likE tHis...and don't know how to use the "..." you've obviously been using incorrectly forever, it makes you seem like a moron with an overblown ego rather than an aspiring artist.
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Dinos4Breakfast In reply to Irixian [2013-03-08 19:06:52 +0000 UTC]
Do you enjoy going around insulting people? Seems like you're an old pro at it. Jerk. Now, if you don't mind I would like to talk to people who don't make me feel like cutting myself. If I had a huge ego, I wouldn't be saying you are the great one. If I were a moron, I wouldn't receive high test scores. Thank you sir. Thank you for being the third rude person I have met on deviantart. Attacking people who once agreed with you won't get you anywhere. Now leave me alone.
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Irixian In reply to Dinos4Breakfast [2013-03-08 20:20:28 +0000 UTC]
For what it's worth, some of the biggest morons I know did great in college. I apologize for being critical. I didn't realize how fragile you were and I should have been more tactful.
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Oreramar In reply to ??? [2013-03-07 03:46:43 +0000 UTC]
I've seen this offline as well - specifically, in my college Creative Writing class. Granted, it can be hard to establish a character in a short story, especially on deadlines with a number of other classes to worry about at the same time, but the sheer number of these sorts of Sues was almost disturbing. The vast majority of them, oddly enough, seemed to take place in a therapist's office and featured a moody main character who really didn't want to be there or say anything until she suddenly started spilling all her deepest, darkest sob stories and then asking said therapist not to tell anyone/get more help/contact the authorities/etc.
It got old, fast.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to Oreramar [2013-03-07 16:11:06 +0000 UTC]
I can imagine. Just reading that comment made a billion different things I've read on dA come to mind.
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Vagus-Lupus In reply to ??? [2013-03-07 03:46:10 +0000 UTC]
Ok, I'm Fishing here. Could you go and read my stories. Please, give some good comments. I want to be a better story weaver.
My view is biased since they are my stories. Frankly, I write to entertain myself but its rather lonely to just please myself. I want to get people thinking about other ways of seeing the world.
So, if you have five minutes to spare, I would appreciate your critique.
Thank you.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to Vagus-Lupus [2013-03-09 00:52:20 +0000 UTC]
Well, okay. Could you give me a link?
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Vagus-Lupus In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2013-03-10 01:00:14 +0000 UTC]
Thank you,I placed some of them on DeviantArt.
[link]
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Lacriyme In reply to ??? [2013-03-07 02:17:39 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for this. I definitely agree.
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Flynt126 In reply to ??? [2013-03-07 02:01:32 +0000 UTC]
I absolutely agree, and am glad that someone has made it blatantly apparent. I am definitely guilty of using that structure, but with the short story im writing, i'm actively trying to avoid this XD
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to Flynt126 [2013-03-07 02:06:34 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you like it!
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Skat3rX In reply to ??? [2013-03-07 00:52:10 +0000 UTC]
U are 100% correct. I'm still an amateur at writing but I know what to do for next time. Thanks.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to Skat3rX [2013-03-07 02:06:20 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the comment
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Skat3rX In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2013-03-07 13:37:36 +0000 UTC]
thanks for the advice
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RiseRedMoon In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 22:21:17 +0000 UTC]
A very well written, in depth explanation on how not to write a crap story, basically
I'd like to add that any beginner's writing skills would be greatly improved if they read a LOT of books. A lot. Then writing just becomes natural
This is also one of the reason why I'm so slow with coming up with stories and such - always trying to make it have the best effect... I don't want to waste a really good idea just because I didn't set it up in the best possible way
Anyway, thanks, and well done hehe
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to RiseRedMoon [2013-03-06 23:10:38 +0000 UTC]
I definitely agree. Reading really is one of the best things to do.
And thanks!
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TheSkandranon [2013-03-06 18:37:07 +0000 UTC]
That is a very good point. At the moment I'm writing fanfics to practice writing different types of characters. That's always been my main fear in writing my own story. That I won't keep the characters in character and that they'll do something that someone like them wouldn't do. But the problem with writing fanfics is that mostly people already know the characters (unless you have an OC) and I don't really need to write a background for them. You've proven to me (even though I knew it already, lol) that I won't get all the practice I need from writing fanfics, lol. Thanks a lot ^_^
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sunflower901 In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 16:23:14 +0000 UTC]
You have a sense of humour and are capable of seeing reason. I like you already.
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blue-strawberry In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 15:46:00 +0000 UTC]
So I just had a look at your gallery... where's your writing? It's easy to preach ha
Also, I get what you're saying and I do think it can apply. But I also think that plenty of stories chuck protagonists into βsomething horribleβ at the beginning and work on building them up as characters throughout the short story/book/whatever. I mean, you mention J K Rowling. Harry Potter begins with Harry at the Dursley's suffering in every single book. At the bginning of the first he is just a baby being taken away from his dead parents.
The thing is that you aren't going to build up a character in a deviation, unless the deviation is really long. And if the deviation is really long no one will read it anyway. SO. Yeah.
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kara-li In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 14:59:28 +0000 UTC]
oh i know what you are talking about, I am a writer, and working so freaking hard NOT to do this. you know the sad thing...few people actually appreciate stuff where the characters aren't drenched in blood with no story behind it.
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HereToReadStories In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 14:44:14 +0000 UTC]
I am a writer. I'm not saying that I'm not guilty for a little bit of this, but I will say that about 70% of what I have read on dA is like that. Thanks for making me think twice.
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VladmiesserDiVisker In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 13:15:12 +0000 UTC]
I also find that people tend to ramble on and act like their boyfriend breaking up with them is the end of the world. You make some really good points here, but sometimes it's good to remember that these things can be first drafts. I'm certainly not discarding the fact that most of them are useless drivel, but some of them are just people who want to be taken seriously but haven't gotten enough practice yet.
That being said, we need to wage a war against the Sucktagonist Army: Mary Sue, Daniel Boring and their cousin, Weepy Wanda. I feel that too many of these characters are too 2-dimensional and just pretty boring and whiny.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend to be the goddess of literature, because a lot of my writing has faults that I can't even place. But thank you for writing these essays. Have you tried commenting on these pieces of literature and letting the author know about their mistakes?
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to VladmiesserDiVisker [2013-03-06 16:38:35 +0000 UTC]
Well, I'm mostly talking about for when we're writing seriously, not just for practice/fun/etc. The scary thing is that we're starting to see things like this published these days, which is mainly why I wrote this.
Sometimes, but there is so much on dA, and I don't like picking on any one person even when they ask for an honest opinion. I don't have the heart to do it that way.
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FireCrand In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 13:03:52 +0000 UTC]
Nice tips. I'm not very into writing and literature, but I always have a background story when I think of a new character. Anyways, is pretty unconscious, so is very handy to have it in mind and how you explained why it is important.
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CHatterBOx010 In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 12:44:31 +0000 UTC]
This is great! I've seen this so many times, it's why I sopped reading twilight halfway through the book. But I do kinda feel like I've done this... Hmm. I'll have to go back and check some things. But I think I'm right in saying that a story about a person who is always right and lucky is equally bad? I dunno, might just be me...
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Kinglorshi In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 12:40:28 +0000 UTC]
All of the salutes. This is how I feel about the subject.
Purpose, development, not material. If anybody does anything, fine, but why?
Again I salute you.
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freewolf17 In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 12:29:14 +0000 UTC]
Yep. Rookie mistakes.... I made them once.... Makes me shudder.... Excuse me while I go read my old works and berate myself for my stupidity...
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snokkedoedel In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 12:16:33 +0000 UTC]
Oh yes! I knew I wasn't alone with that opinion. I'm so glad someone sees it too...
The drama and suffering of a character's past or present doesn't make it a great story. It actually makes me stop reading.
I've once wrote a story (of course in my own language) about how two little boys meet each other and have lots of fun on the playground.
But in a story, people expect drama and something bad to happen. That might be, but it doesn't have to be bloody and traumatic. It can be a simple thing like the main character hitting his/her toe against a chair or something. It's silly, but it happened to everyone. The readers can imagine it better.
"How not to tell a story" is definatly worth faving it XD
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UntilForever-Photos In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 12:14:59 +0000 UTC]
This was an interesting read. However, I must politely disagree with your statements about the order that a story is written, for a few main reasons. You say that writers should not throw their characters into some tragedy right away, or into some chaotic event, and instead "ease into" the story...how would those things make me care about the characters? Honestly, as a reader, the first few pages are the most crucial in the book; those pages alone will make me decide whether or not to keep reading the rest of the story. Therefore, the opening pages must be engaging, it must make the audience want to keep turning the pages to find out what happened next, either through drama, suspence, tragedy, etc. I won't want to keep reading if the author goes through the introduction with a repiticious chapter or chapters of the character's normal, everday life...that's too boring, at least for me. Personally, if I wanted to hear about those things, I wouldn't read, and I wouldn't want to escape from my own normal, everyday life.
And I also disagree with the fact that you "should" make the reader somehow care for the characters before a tragedy strikes; to me as a reader, that would actually make me want to care a little more, to find out how the character preserveres, how they change, and what happens throughout the rest of the story.
Another point: I don't think it's fair to generalize the structure of stories like this anyway, in my opinion. I think everyone has a unique style to their writing, and just because tragedies strike in the beginning, middle, or end of the story, doesn't mean that one is somehow better or more appealing than the others.
This was very, very interesting to consider, though! While I don't write much, it does make me think about the structure of writing. These are only my opinions, though, so please don't take them offensively; call it constructive criticism.
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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to UntilForever-Photos [2013-03-06 16:52:06 +0000 UTC]
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UntilForever-Photos In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2013-03-07 11:55:46 +0000 UTC]
Very true, very true. This was a great read, and again, a very good subject to think about when writing.
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AliceRorstrom In reply to UntilForever-Photos [2013-03-06 15:20:45 +0000 UTC]
This needs like button **nod**
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Tianithen In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 12:13:22 +0000 UTC]
I think you make a very good point.
How am I supposed to feel sad for someone I don't know?
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VictorHugo In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 11:58:08 +0000 UTC]
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So, feed the fool with fool stories, so you can get money for the smart stories. Like Gary Oldman does.
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tuxtech In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 11:19:53 +0000 UTC]
I am in the middle of working on a sci-fi book. Up to around 200pages. I found this post rather intriguing and well, quite brilliant. This has helped me to cut the fluff and enjoy the story rather than describing pointless bla bla.
The only reason we find works like Twilight are because people in mas are so intra-obsorbed that they will push all reasonable plot lines out the window so that they can get a PHYSICAL REACTION (to the guy with his abs all over the place) rather than an emotional reality of what has just transpired. The entire world says me me me. I would really like to see a character who is selfless and is not laughed off the stage.
Vanity and materialism plague the theater and the page.
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cutiedeanna94 In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 11:07:09 +0000 UTC]
First I would like to say I enjoyed Twilight.... But You're right in saying it is rather generic in some aspects... I'll just say it was "ok" for the most part... Anyway other than that I agree with you, this is a sad fact and I am thankful you addressed it. Bravo.
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Steve1345 In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 10:11:49 +0000 UTC]
I can only say one thing, and it'll probably piss you off.
This made me cry, you are the next J.K Rowling.
Okay I lied about that "crying" part.
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