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MArt1nc In reply to MajoraCats [2018-12-08 22:37:30 +0000 UTC]

kfbvgj me alegra demasiado que te guste demasiado el cómic y sus personajes extras! Algunos personajes volverán a aparecer ya que varios son soldados de los tenientes de Venom! ( Por ejemplo : El mandril es un soldado de Meteo Crusher pilot/Galaxicos).

xD y quien no?? Es Wolf y Leon! los mercenarios mas poderosos y mas guapos de todo el sistema lylat! Andrew necesitara todo eso para ser amado por los demás chicos malos!.

Pd : Oh ja ja ja tiene cara de Tom Nook ahora que lo dices xD ( Por cierto, ese camaleón se llama Randal!! ).
Por poco lo echan de Venom por no ser primate o reptil xD

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MajoraCats In reply to MArt1nc [2018-12-08 23:33:05 +0000 UTC]

Denada y que genial

Al menos se salvó con la llegada de Powalski x,D

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MArt1nc In reply to MajoraCats [2018-12-08 23:38:38 +0000 UTC]

xD si que si!!

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MArt1nc In reply to Nightmare-Arts [2018-08-22 03:12:21 +0000 UTC]

xD Monos y reptiles amor, monos y reptiles.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-13 13:32:59 +0000 UTC]

hdhdfhg thank you very much for your sweet words! I try hard to make this mini comic, and even if it is not perfect, I'm glad that many it seems great! Seriously, thank you very much!

Admittedly, Wolf will always be the most popular among SF villains, inside or outside of history or fandom. To then be Leon the second most popular (And Panther the third). But the popularity of a character is not much of my interest, and the truth is, even if I've only been in this fandom at least only this year (and in the next few), the little treasures that I like to look for are fanarts of Minor characters There are already many drawings of Falco, Fox, Krystal (especially the ... ehm, nsfw fanarts), Wolf and Panther, but what about the other characters? There are probably many fanarts of other characters like Katt or Slippy, but I have not found much of General pepper, or of Andross.

And not to mention the soldiers of Andross, nor in pixiv I managed to find many drawings of them. And that seems strange to me, since I notice that many fans love these guys, but at the moment their fanarts are rare for me.

(Honestly, I like they Zero models, although you're right they do not have a lot of work in them. Even so, the worst thing Zero has done with these bad guys is that they only gave participation to five of them. crusher pilot, Sarumarine and Shogun pilot have only been extras to be just soldiers in the background ... or just to die...   ).

Peppy would be very proud of Donkey Kong.

Andrew will begin to have popularity when he thinks of changing his personality from a spoiled child to ... I do not know, being as smart and cool as Wolf, i guess. But any personality will be better for the monkey child than the one that already has xD

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-14 09:07:43 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome ^^

That's true. Design, their more significant role in the story and connection to other main characters give Wolf and also Star Wolf a clear advantage in popularity among fans over other StarFox villains. Pigma, Andrew and Andross don't quite manage to gain so much popularity in spite of no less important roles and Pigma and Andross having a connection to Fox that is equally important as Wolf's. I think it's mainly because a lot of fans don't like their designs as much.
I've seen extremely few fanarts of the 64/Zero bosses too. Very rarely there's some fanart of Caiman but he's usually redesigned as an actual caiman. Of most other bosses I've seen next to nothing.
Still, I think while it is only difficult to find any art at all of minor characters, of some characters of intermediate popularity there's also very little high quality art.

Yes, the designs of these bad guys in Zero are alright but to me their models look less detailed than those of StarFox and StarWolf characters.

Peppy would be proud of Donkey Kong's barrel rolling skills but he'd scold him for joining the Venomian Army.

Well, Andrew is young. Maybe he can still learn.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-14 12:53:49 +0000 UTC]

Honestly? Yes, it is surely due to its design.

From the first time I saw Pigma I thought "I bet that nobody wants this character because of his grotesque design, especially assault", and in part I was right. Pigma, for fans of the West, is the most horrible character they have in the franchise, both for its physical design and its concept in history is not to many's liking. What I do notice is that the oriental fans (especially those from Japan) do have a taste for Pigma. Seriously, I know a Japanese Starfox artist who dedicates many drawings of Pigma (And of andross and andrew ... and drawings of Pigma x Andross). I'm being obvious Mrs., but we know that many fans get carried away by attractive design, and that's what Wolf has, and what Pigma will never have.

Andrew is an equal case, where many fans of the West were carried away by their horrible appearance, especially that of assault, and many have it as a pathetic relief, worse than Slippy. I've even been talking to an old Starfox fan for years, and he told me that when Assault was released at the time, there was a huge hate for Andrew? So much so that they make many fanfics where he ends up brutally murdered, lunatic or violated? Being honest, they sound more like psychopaths than just being haters.

The good thing is that I was able to find fans to talk about Andrew, but sad are few people.

And for Japanese artists, Andrew is a bishounen (for his youthful voice, especially Zero's) who has a great love for his uncle, and is always portrayed as a young man with energy and pride, but who in the background is afraid of war or is manipulated by his uncle. You just have to search well in Pixiv and Twitter to notice the love you have. But the truth is that Andrew's oriental fans earn a lot because of the appreciation they have for Andrew.

(As you may have noticed, my most wanted fanarts are from Andrew, and even if my ideas are not the best, I want to give some appreciation to the character, since I think he has potential).

And well, Andross is Andross. Probably he is very old, his first design of the comics of starfox was not a very attractive person (Neither yesterday, nor today), is a giant head of ... some type of monkey. And his voice is terrifying. And I do not think anyone wants to marry a lunatic monkey.

And not many have dedicated him to making fanarts of him before the war of lylat. And as always, that's a job that Starfox's Japanese artists do most of all.

I like the few fanarts that I saw of Andross, but I would appreciate more to see comics or fanfics where he develops well and does not remain as a simple madman. But I think that will be up to when the fans learn to ... I do not know, to stop being taken by the attraction of a character as they do with Wolf (And I really like Wolf! And yes, he is very attractive at a certain point, but those three have a lot of potential, and you could work with them you should make them more like simple villains).

And I think that's what we get with the heads of 64. His designs are not as attractive as those of the other characters, Caiman is an exception for his funny design, but the others are so simple that, well, I do not think they attract many .

Detail that seems to me ... unused. If there's something I like about Starfox, it's the idea that not all of their characters are the same, they have variations in faces, bodies, etc. And the bosses are no exception, if we ignore Granga, Caiman and Shogun, the others are very different. Especially with Galaxicos / Meteo crusher pilot and the commander area 6, which I find interesting in designs. More than anything the first, for his voice and character when you fight against him.

I digress a lot, and I apologize, but I always find the idea of ​​seeing as a fandom with a variety of characters, ignoring that they have more characters to work and draw, but if you want to work in a fanfic or comic.

And as I finish, I'll just say: Yes, Peppy would be very disappointed in Donkey Kong ... you did not have to go to the dark side for being a primate, donkey!

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-14 17:14:50 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. Maybe not so much early on but in Assault they did everything to make Pigma be disgusting. It's not just his design, it's also the way he talks and everything else. I think it's why a lot of fans picture him as someone who's a messy eater and doesn't shower often enough (aside from him being a pig of course). In 64/Zero Pigma is also not the prettiest, he is disloyal, doesn't have any nice personality traits, but he seems more like a normal person.
Ultimately evilness won't put some fans off. On the StarFox 2 website they describe Wolf as 'This despicable criminal will betray anyone for the right price.'. I've seen some fans speculate that, since this describes Pigma better than Wolf, the current Pigma could be inspired by Wolf from StarFox 2. Point is, if it had been Wolf instead of Pigma who betrayed James but still looked like Wolf and was like Wolf in all other ways that don't contradict him taking on Pigma's role, I think he'd still have a lot of fans, simply because he's more attractive.

In general it seems that what fans like or dislike depends to some extent on if they are the original fans from early on or got to like StarFox later. I've seen quite a few fans from 64 who dislike Krystal and think Adventures is the worst thing that could have happened to StarFox. A lot of the newer fans like Krystal. In fact she may be the most popular StarFox character.
Personally I got to like StarFox due to Smash Bros Brawl. Assault and Command were the first StarFox games I had and I didn't play 64 until the 3DS version came out. Maybe I'd have liked the original StarWolf team right from the beginning if my first game had been 64, but in Assault Pigma and Andrew don't have as appealing roles as in 64.

I didn't observe the exact differences between Japanese fans and Western ones as well as you did, but I know they have different character preferences, tend to interpret some characters differently than people in the West and popular head-canons are also not the same.

It's always been a bit of an alien concept for me why some fans need to write hate-fanfiction about characters they dislike and kill them in gruesome ways just for it's own sake, like that one you mentioned did with Andrew. In general I don't have a problem with fictional violence but those hate-fanfics seem rather pointless and are usually abysmal writing.

I also don't tend to like the stories where Andrew or Slippy are exaggerated in negative ways to the point where they are completely pathetic and their bosses would have fired them because they are only useless and harmful to the team. It's bad character development.
I don't mind jokes about the weak points of either character. Those can be well done, but only if it's funny rather than grotesque.

I've seen some good artwork and writing of Andrew too that adds depth to his character and explores his motivations and relationship to his uncle, but it's rare.

Andross is a complicated case, because from the point on where he's a giant floating head normal interaction with other characters can be difficult. Of course the solution for anyone for whom him being a floating head is inconvenient is easy. Maybe he can transform back.

I too like the variety of characters in StarFox.

Haha, no problem. Besides, what I wrote now is as much a long wall of text.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-16 14:07:04 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, I had no idea about that information from Wolf and Pigma in Starfox 2 (unfortunately I could not investigate this game better), but I'm surprised that they gave that change to Wolf and Pigma (I'm not entirely sure how Pigma was SF 2). And hey, yes, many times the attractive design gains more in popularity.

Surely Pigma was represented as a dirty and grotesque character, but in Assault they have exaggerated the character. Honestly I like to think that Pigma, under that image of pig evil caricature can, I do not know, that a cunning character hides ?. As his image was deceiving enough to think that he was a person not so reliable or that gives you the idea that he is not a brilliant person at all, it was James and Peppy who looked like the stars of the team, and Pigma sure was only the mechanical for others. Ehm,  are just my ideas, but I like to think that the character could get to do that. And it could have been a reason to betray his "friends".

And yes, it can also happen a lot that old fans hate the new Starfox games (like Adventure) and that Krystal's presence is a hindrance to the franchise. (In part, if I'm in favor of Krystal being not at all Interestingly within the franchise, yes, she is a warrior and she had a good concept, but she lacks a lot of starfox style charisma to make she feel like a franchise character, and not an attractive character and nothing else, and I can think of better ways to give her better potential as a character).

I at least, I'm new to the fandom, just this year I was watching all of starfox (well, almost) and yes, I do not think that Adventure was brilliant at all. It looks fun in gameplay, but it feels strange in a shooting franchise. I understand that it was not a new game of Starfox, but many have told me many interesting and strong details of the original concept, and could have left those details and not just the theme of the dinosaurs or krystal. 

I know she's the most popular of all the characters, but I think it's more because of her sexy and charming aesthetic. Do not get me wrong, I'm not the type of woman who gets angry when seeing a popular sexy female character, after all, Jessica Rabbit is a character that I like too, but as I said, Krystal is missing much more to be an identical character to a starfox character.

And well, in Assault, Pigma and Andrew were very badly worked. I have no problem with making Andrew like a funny villain, but he has not lasted anything, and it was only barrel bait for the aparoid (curious detail that has not infected him as they have done with others). He was pathetic? ... yes, but he does not deserve much hate for that (Nor in 64).

And Pigma, being an important character in the history of Fox and James, hey, could have had a better role in assault, as his role in the story was so quick and short that it did not matter much (And I do not want to mention his role in Command).

My taste for the original team of starfox is based on the comments and concepts that fans have given these characters, and after thinking it over, yes, I have a great taste for Pigma and Andrew. Wolf and Leon are great, but the first two have a relationship with Andross to have a better potential (Oh god, I feel like I'm repeating myself a lot, I'm sorry ...   ).


Regarding the fans, for the most part it was because I've been talking to this old starfox fan who has told me a lot about how fandom was in old times. Like the horrible fanfics haters of Andrew, and how he has noticed that difference of taste between the eastern and western fans of the fandom. As I am new, I have not been able to see much more old content of starfox, but if new drawings of Japanese fans on twitter and pixiv. And likewise, I do not understand the idea of writing or drawing bashing on some character or another in particular, probably when I was a child I liked or if I wrote about it, but now? Nah, it's a very immature attitude of a fan or hater. It is understood because you can not like a character, but at that level it is already exaggerated. Neither the fact of exaggerating in a negative way to some character (And it is worse is the situation in romantic fanfics). I have laughed a lot with some jokes about how clumsy they are slippy or Andrew, but only with humor.

And since I mention Andross; It is hard to imagine how he would relate to his soldiers, nephew or the other members of Starwolf. He is probably 100% of the time in a room alone or on a throne, giving orders from his machines and cursing the failure that his soldiers commit. Besides that, he would be a manipulative person, perhaps with his own nephew (and Andrew, being young and sure of his uncle, would believe him a lot) and even if he is respected by his soldiers, they know that any failure would infuriate him too much that would kill them. without hesitation.

And even before his empire, I imagine a person with a dark and cold character, probably only a "loving person" with Vixy.

Honestly, thinking that Andross sure did not care about his soldiers to leave his ward of evil, send Andrew to do the small jobs that some emperors do (like, for example, attend a funeral to some commander / lieutenant of his empire ) or simply to have it as a messenger / personal secretary to review and give some personal notice. 

And as you say, I've been able to read some fanfics that talk about the dynamics of Andrew and Andross (like Burning Stars), but they are so few. If you have another fanfic where they talk about their dynamic I would like you to share it with me.

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-16 17:43:59 +0000 UTC]

I don't know much about StarFox 2 either, only that it apparently took place in the same canon as the first StarFox game and not the same as 64 or later games. Given that it was even older than 64 there probably wasn't a whole lot of character development.

Yes, at first impression Pigma doesn't seem particularly smart in the games, but he can't be stupid and an engineer who helped construct the Wolfen and possibly a former scientist working together with Andross. Your assertion that he's a cunning character makes a lot of sense.
I think him being a mechanic may also have enabled him to more effectively betray StarFox. Generally when I see other people's stories or headcanons about Pigma's betrayal there are two common scenarios. In the more common one he simply leads them into a trap and attacks them with his Arwing. But I like the other better where he additionally manipulated the Arwings such that they start to malfunction at the worst time possible. As a mechanic he's in the ideal position to do this.
Why and how (aside from being greedy) he betrayed his team is a not fully answered question. Like, was he ever friends with James and Peppy but got jealous and hateful? Or maybe he already planned to betray them when he joined them (In the translation of some Japanese sources to which you gave me a link a while ago, it looked like Andross and Pigma knew each other for quite some time. That's why it might be possible that Pigma joined StarFox only to betray them.)

When I first found out about Adventures (I knew Krystal from Assault first) it took me a while to get to terms with Krystal too because both the game itself and Krystal don't fit into the StarFox universe too well. Unlike the rest it has more of a fantasy than a scifi universe feeling to it. By now I don't really mind the mixture (as there's not really any science in this kind of science fiction but just space ships and there are other stories that mix scifi with fantasy - like StarWars for example).
I like that both Adventures and Assault tried to have a story, but because Nintendo failed to put much effort into it the results were very flawed stories.
I agree, most of Krystal's popularity is due to her appearance. There are some fans who deal with her in an intelligent way and try to flesh out her character and the world she's coming from but they're a tiny minority.
I don't think Krystal is consistent or well-developed at all between the StarFox games. I see her personality in Adventures and Assault as very different, not to mention Command.

I think Assault as a whole was too short. Andrew could have had a more interesting role, if he had had more role at all, but then the whole game would have needed to be longer.
Same for Pigma. Compared to the overall length of the game he didn't even have a short role but the whole game was short and he just didn't play an as important or interesting part as in 64.

True, Pigma and Andrew have a close connection to Andross, whereas Wolf and Leon may not have any beyond working for him.

On an interpersonal level other characters can much more easily have relationships than Andross. Too much authority and too much power make that difficult. To some extent it's possible with Andrew as they're family and probably knew each other before Andross was an evil emperor or a giant floating head (albeit Andrew would have been a child back then). Pigma, Pepper, Vixie and James seem to have known him before too at a time when maybe he was a bit more relatable.

Unfortunately Burning Star is also the only fanfic were Andrew is well written I've read in the recent past. And in the more distant past it has also been very few and I'm not able to remember the titles or enough about the stories to find them again.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-18 13:45:05 +0000 UTC]

oh do not worry! I'm still aware that it's hard to find information about some Starfox games on the internet.

Clear! There are many possibilities of how or why Pigma could betray James and Peppy, and not just "Pigma is an evil person and nothing else". Besides the theme that he is mechanical, I read that he also manipulated Wolf at some point, and he will know if he managed to manipulate more people before and after the war (In fact, both me and a fan think that Pigma manipulates many times to Andrew to be rebellious with Wolf or to be a tyrant emperor as his uncle). I like that idea of ​​the damaged and manipulated arwings, sounds better than simply Pigma shooting the arwing at James or taking them to the trap (considering that James and Peppy are brilliant pilots, I do not think they took so long to flee). For these things on the part of the fans, it is because I have finished liking the character, honestly. I do not think that Nintendo gives much attention to Pigma in future Starfox games seeing how he has been driving for four games, but hopefully they gave us more information about the character.

More than anything that detail of Pigma and Andross, because I'm really curious how was their relationship before andross exile.

At this point we then agree that Assault was not really brilliant as we expected. Both for its short duration and its bad execution with Andrew and Pigma and more.

and Adventure, as I said, is not bad, but if you feel alien with the other games. Of course, as you say, the detail of fantasy with science fiction has been around for years, and Starfox could not be the exception (I say. .. I still think that Fox saw a ghost at the end of 64) but for some fans, as they never raised that idea in the universe, they would not have taken it well. Another point would be that it seems too childish compared to how dark 64 was.

As I remember reading, one of Zero's developers said that he would like to bring Krystal back. If that's true, I hope they do a better job with her (and also bring us back to Katt, Fay, Miyu, Lucy and Amanda - because she's my favorite SF girl -).

If, besides Andrew, those characters that you mentioned could have a dynamic with Andross. The theme of Pepper and Andross, who apparently were good friends before the exile, would work for an SF manga. James and Andross is also an important detail of the life and madness of this, probably more than just the story of how James "stole" Vixy. And Vixy, well, we already know her story with Andross. Combining all these characters related to this horrible villain, those three (and pigma) could tell a lot about the before the war.

I managed to read some, especially a trilogy of fanfics about Andrew. Honestly it was very interesting, since it was the first fanfic that I read where Andross and Andrew interact, and later Dash and Andrew. The problem is that it becomes so dark that in some moments you forget that you are reading a fanfic of starfox (and, well, this is not a problem for me, but (Spoilers) in the third fanfic there is incest between Dash and Andrew ).

It's unfortunate, but I've seen it coming, I'll be dying of waiting for the writer of Burning stars to write a new chapter   
 

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-19 08:19:46 +0000 UTC]

Yes, that Pigma manipulated Wolf to form StarWolf is another interesting piece of story. It's only mentioned shortly without any detail about why and how but it has a lot of potential for an interesting backstory.
Wolf's past is mostly unknown therefore it could be anything. As far as I know there's not even any consensus about his age. To quickly look up facts about StarFox characters I sometimes use Arwingpedia, but it's a mixture of canon and someone's headcanons. Like, right now it says Wolf was born 27 BLW. When I first got interested in StarFox it said roughly 40BLW if I remember correctly and in between now and then it put his age at 19BLW and 24BLW. If there's any official age I'm not aware of it.
Indeed, Pigma would probably have an easy time manipulating Andrew. Andrew comes across as young and naive and like he's blindly following Andross without applying any critical thinking himself. He might not apply much critical thinking to Pigma's attempts at manipulation either.

It would make sense for Nintendo to bring Krystal back as she's a popular character. If they introduce her better some of the people who think she ruined StarFox might not mind that much either.
I want them to keep Katt in future games. Lucy is one of the few things Command introduced that I actually like. Albeit I'm fine with Dash and Amanda too. I'm not sure if Lucy needs to be a pilot to be reintroduced into new StarFox games. It depends on how much story there is. And yes, Fay and Miyu would be awesome too.

If StarFox games were more successful, I'd think Nintendo should make a prequel game with the original StarFox team. It could answer many of those unanswered questions about the past and relationships between the characters that were already around back then. But since StarFox doesn't even get enough games with the current StarFox team, it's probably never going to happen.
A manga would work too but I don't think the chance of that happening is much higher either.
Personally, if StarFox was more successful, I'd hope for a game focused on StarWolf but realistically it's not going to happen.

I don't think I've seen that fanfic trilogy, but I've not read too much fanfiction lately at all. I did when I was new to the fandom but now... new good stories are rare.
That's not how I see Andrews relationship to Dash, but if it's well executed I don't particularly mind such things in a story either. I might sometimes dislike some choices fanfic writers make for how one character relates to another if it seems very out of character but if they build their plot up well and don't just pair everyone with everyone for the sake of crack pairings a lot of things can work for a story.

I'm looking forwards to the next chapter of Burning Stars too.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-19 13:41:05 +0000 UTC]

I like the idea that Wolf was a teenager when he was fighting James, and although we do not know if he was referring to the fact that he worked with Andross or he was a simple mercenary who repeatedly confronted him. I've always had this idea that the 64 / Zero has an age around 20 or more, and in Assault or Command, I'm not very sure, maybe between 38 or close to 40. Its design makes it look much more adult than what he looks like. Or in any case, during the war of Lylat he was an old man, and then he was even older pffffffffff.

I do not trust Arwingpedia very much honestly, or any Starfox wiki, like, I like that if they have real information about the game or give me ideas in their trivia, but I'm very insecure about if it's not all fan invention . That's why I prefer to simply take into account the ideas of comics, manga and canon games, and then create or take into account some ideas from the arwingpedia for inspiration.

(Yes! Like, Andrew will simply take good words from anyone who says "Hey, your uncle is proud of you" and will believe that it is real, simply because he is a proud and trusting young man of his uncle. And Pigma, knowing Andrew, will play with him that way until ... maybe a certain point when he gets bored to manipulate him or just does not serve him anymore. I have always had this very dark idea that it is likely that Pigma, trying to earn a lot of money, would sell Andrew as a slave and ask for a huge amount of money for having blood with Andross - I have rare ideas when I see Gankutsou, honestly ).

Krystal could be improved by making her more funny or with much more character, maybe a personality a bit like Fox, but more feminine and elegant.

I do not remember Lucy very much, but I do like the idea that Peppy has a really strong daughter of personality, and that she has a relationship with Slippy and Fox. She could become a pilot of the team, taking on the role her father once had when this one gets older. Amanda, being part or not of the Starfox team, I do not care while maintaining that personality that gave her a lot of chemistry with Slippy. Could be a support character for the latter even if she is not a pilot.

Dash is my favorite character from Command's introduced characters. Even with that horrible end of Dash's route becoming like his grandfather (And when I mean horrible, I just hate the ending). He could have more potential to better help the Starfox team with the Andross theme, having a rival relationship with Andrew being these two cousins ​​or more. The only thing that would be missing would be to explain exactly who the person came from or how he knows that Andross is his grandfather, just saying that he is Andross' grandson does not work.

I would love to have a game with the first team of Starfox, but as you say, it would be very difficult counting the amount of games that the franchise has without the second team. For me, it would serve better as a manga prequel to the franchise.

and like a game of Starwolf, I would love the idea, and seeing that Nintendo seems to want to use the old original team from Zero (They will even appear in this game called Starlink ) would do some game with these four characters. I'm not really sure how the game would be exactly, but it would be interesting if they took the story of the lylat war from the point of view of the bad guys.

Well, I'm still new to the fandom as well, so I have not read many fanfics, but I think I would never read any fanfic based on that horrible end of Kursed (which by the way, it seems many). I admit that I only look for fanfics of characters or couples that interest me. and I have not taken time to read new fanfics.

And well, I do not think many see the relationship of Andrew and Dash on the incestuous side. Maybe Dash would show love to Andrew as a cousin, but not at that level lol. In itself, forget to mention that the incest in that fanfic is more than anything used as a dramatic element that is only something tender (In other words, Dash thinks he is sick because he likes his older cousin). I would only recommend reading the two fanfics, since there is in the firts story a chemistry between Andrew with Wolf and Leon, and for the second story with Andross. After the third is like you forget too much that he's a Starfox fanfic, has interesting ideas and great scenes, but Dash feels like another character and Andrew does not seem quite well written there, but you can read it if you're interested. At least, I am interested in reading it until the end tbh.

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-19 18:41:34 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I prefer Wolf being around the same age as Fox too. Otherwise he's too onld in Assault and his rivalry with Fox seems rather immature.
Adventures takes place 8 years after 64 and Assault 1 year after Adventures, I think (I'm not absolutely sure but I think it's the games themselves that somewhere specify this). If they're around 20 in 64, they'd be around 30 by then.

Sometimes Arwingpedia directly quotes some official sources. In that case it's a quick way to look it up if one doesn't have the game there right now, but for the most part, yes it's unreliable. I'm not sure now, but a while ago Arwingpedia said about Fay that she was a collie, a poodle and a spaniel all in the same text but in different sentences. Obviously that doesn't make any sense. She can only be one of these three dog-breeds or she'd be a mongrel instead. I guess it's due to different people editing the text and everyone wanted to add their favorite dog-breed.

I think Lucy could but doesn't need to be a pilot because her character bio mentions that she wanted to be one but at the same time that she teaches Astrophysics. It's possible that she does both or maybe not.
She always seemed to me like - albeit determined - a naive girl who grew up overprotected, but that's just my own interpretation and not something official. In my headcanon she wanted to be a pilot and follow into her father's footsteps but since being a mercenary is dangerous he didn't want her to become one.
Amanda seemed a little overbearing to me but I guess she's a good match for Slippy in the sense that he could tolerate it.

I think Dash is basically a very interesting character, but that ending ruined him. I liked that there was a non-evil monkey character and one related to Andross at that. He seemed to have enough insight into Andross doings to acknowledge the good sides of him as well as the horrible things he had done and tried to stay objective in spite of his relation to Andross. He also seemed to not be the least bit shy about revealing his relation to Andross albeit I'm sure he must have gotten negative reactions from Cornerians before when they found out.
If done rightly Dash could have added depth to the story - something more nuanced than evil monkeys vs good dogies.
I'd guess that Andross' child(ren) don't follow his ideology blindly as Andrew does otherwise it'd be unlikely that Andrew is considered his heir. Simply by relation Andrew wouldn't be the most obvious choice.
Dash's existence also means that Andross may have had a relationship with another woman - unless Dash's parent is the result of a one-night-stand. Due to the characters' ages this probably was before he got interested in Vixie. Maybe Andross is divorced. Dash being old enough to be a pilot in Command would mean that Andross' child is likely older than Andrew or Fox.

I'm really looking forward to when Star Link will reveal their Star Wolf designs and more about what role they play in the game. As you said Fox design looked like that in Zero, but the fur-effect was much better done and the animation is better.

I don't like the Kursed ending either. I think there are many fanfics because it has a lot of melodrama but I don't like melodrama.

I haven't read any of this fanfic trilogy yet. I might have a look at the first part now.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-19 20:18:10 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I still think his age should be thirty years, even Fox's. Lol, it would be very strange if an old Wolf is rivaling an eighteen-year-old young man in 64. Now, I'm not entirely sure with the age of the other characters, but we already know that Peppy, pepper, Pigma are already very old. Andross was probably very old.

Yes, that can happen to that kind of thing in the wikis done by fans, it could inspire and create new ideas, but if it's not official information, they should not put it on the wikis. It will create simply confunsion. What they should do is put the official Japanese Starfox information and compare it with the Yankee version. That would work better.

I think the same. Lucy does not have to be a pilot, but it is clear that she has a very strong personality like her father's. I also like your Headcanon of her, it would make a lot of sense that her father, seeing her little daughter, and what happened with James, would worry about her welfare, and asks her to try to find another dream and not to be a mercenary (although probably it must seem unfair to her that after her father helps Fox to become a mercenary). I should go back to see the scenes where Lucy appears, I should give her some participation in a future story.

Amanda is very dominant with Slippy, but not in a sense of wanting to be dominant for wanting to be, but because she really cares about her boyfriend. Not many like the dominant brides, but Amanda I can take it because you can tell she loves Slippy a lot.


I love the character of Dash, he has too much potential to have some important focus in some future game that only appear in few routes or endings. And as you said, its existence gives many questions about Andross.

In my headcanon, at least, it is as you said, but with certain changes: After the death of Vixy, Andross would have entered into a certain state of depression, maybe he would really feel alone without his beloved Vixy, and one day, probably he would relief with an unknown woman (maybe being drunk for depression? who knows). Obviously, Andross would not be interested in this woman and would not see her again, but a bastard daughter is born, so that years later, she has Dash (dying after giving birth, leaving her son in the care of her mother). The woman (Dash's grandmother), knowing Andross' criminal record of exile, obviously does not want her grandchild to find out about her grandfather. The drama would come in that (at least in my headcanon) Dash was born with certain moles on his face, like Andross (from his Zero design) and many gave them a certain image of Andross in him. And certain women who knew their grandmother knew that this woman had slept with Andross years ago. Dash would listen to all those rumors of her grandmother, and she, tired, tells him everything about her grandfather. Probably, the truth of Dash and his blood with Andross would be discovered, and many had negative feelings against him and his grandmother.

And we already know that, Dash studied better the biography of his grandfather, and saw that out of exile, war and the death of James Mccloud, his grandfather was not always an evil scientist.

(Oops, sorry back, I always end up writing an enormous will ...)

I'm not very interested in Starlink, but I'd love to see what they do with the Starfox characters. And playing Starwolf missions will be a glory for the fans.

Of all the Command endings, Kursed's is the worst. The worst of Command is that he relied too much on the cheap melodrama of a krystal acting very selfish with everyone, and a Fox that did not even look like the brave leader he is.

(Read it as you like, it's not an obligation if you do not have much interest in such fanfics).

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-20 12:50:48 +0000 UTC]

For Peppy and Pigma the most likely is that they are in Jame's generation. If Fox is 18 in 64 then Andross would probably need to be older than James, Peppy or Pigma otherwise he'd not have an adult grandson by Command. If Fox is already older, Andross could be a similar age to James, Peppy or Pigma or he could still be older.

Yes, Lucy would probably think it's unfair if Peppy encourages Fox to become a mercenary but doesn't want her to become one but, while I'm sure Peppy cares about Fox too, it just wouldn't be the same to him.

Does that mean you're writing Star Fox fanfiction or you're planing to do so?

Agreed, Amanda means no harm and she really cares about Slippy and it seems to work but some other people would experience her behavior as exhausting.

I guess the difference between the head-canons we choose about how Dash came to be is because in my version Fox is actually very young in 64, which means there couldn't be an adult grandson by the time of Command if Andross' child was born after Vixy's death. That's why in my version it has to be earlier on, but if you choose for Fox to be a bit older in 64 it makes perfect sense that Andross would get some woman pregnant in a state of depression after Vixy died.
It also makes sense that his family would initially not want little Dash to know that he's related to Andross in that case. It'd probably be difficult for a child to deal with this but it's only natural that Dash tries to find out as much as he can as soon as he learns about his relation to Andross.
In your head-canon, would Andross know about his daughter and grandson? Would Andrew know about Dash?

Neither am I. Having StarWolf in StarLink is at least something but it just isn't anything like an actual new StarFox game. I never liked the idea of a crossover between StarFox and anything with humans. I never read any StarFox fanfiction with any humans in it either except for one that worked because it was comedy.
I think if the StarFox characters saw a human they'd think it's some weird, ugly monkey pig hybrid.

Indeed, Krystal is very inconsistent and often very selfish in Command and Fox sometimes acts more like a depressed teenager than a brave leader.

I read the first of the trilogy. Actually I think I already read it long ago and completely forgot about it again but it's a well written story. I might give the second one a try, but maybe not the third.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-20 15:10:15 +0000 UTC]

And if Andross would have had a son / daughter after discovering that Vixy married James? I think it would make more sense that he had a daughter / son after Vixy died because of Fox's age (which I guess was three years old). For me Andross is greater than those three characters, perhaps already in their fifties or more. It gives me a certain image that he is already an old man.

I have many ideas of mind to write fanfics. Mostly they are from Starwolf, or in relation to Venom. I would also love to write a fanfic where Dash explores Venom and meets his older cousin Andrew (with a very difficult relationship at first, but then need to help each other), and another fanfic, is about eight-year-old Slippy meeting a macaque boy Japanese with a horrible family relationship.

I would like to write a long fanfic (to later adapt it to comic, if possible for me) where I would tell the story of Wolf and Leon during the lylat war, how they were contacted by Andross to be their soldiers, how they started their strange friendship with Pigma and Andrew, and let's say, it will be more than anything, an exploration of characters within Venom or the empire of Andross. I also plan to use the heads of the SF 64 as supporting characters that will help a certain development or concept of Andross and Andrew (Spoiler: Galaxicos / Meteo crusher pilot will be the one that will have more participation and relationship with Wolf and Andrew).

In addition to that, several fight scenes will be based on 64 and Zero, and battles will be mixed in both games so that the lylat war with Starfox does not feel so short (I get the idea that it took months to defeat Andross and his empire of evil).

You could create a really interesting story with Dash and his horrible ties with Andross. The fact that he discovers at an early age that his grandfather was the emperor who started a horrible war and killed many on the way, and that everyone discovers your family history, would be a horrible experience for Dash and his grandmother. I still have to think a lot about the age of Andross's daughter to better see the chronology of my headcanon.

Honestly I do not believe, and I do not want to write fanfics that are 100% in relation to Command, only the characters that appeared and certain relationships, but I do not want to base myself on the idea that Andross being a ghost knows about the existence of his grandson. Andrew would have no idea that he had a second cousin either.

So, in the fanfic that I told you about Dash and Andrew knowing each other, the two discover that they are cousins, and even if the two are from different worlds, they realize that they are very similar to each other in their family history, and Andrew starts to note that Dash seems to have a resemblance to Andross in many ways.

It is a pity that Nintendo has to go to make collabs among other games for a franchise of his. Smash is understandable, but one where the Starfox characters will have a relationship with humans? Nothing good for me.

xD Like me, surely distrust these rare beings for having the appearance of a monkey.

Command was a romantic soap opera of the bad, I would have preferred that they had taken another story and not based on a very bad fanfic.

I get it! I hope that the second story is to your liking.

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-21 10:52:40 +0000 UTC]

Vixy's death (at least if one uses the version from the comic, as it's not really in the 64 canon but there's no alternative version about Fox's mother) is the one thing that shows that there clearly was something wrong with Andross at that point already. He thinks he's madly in love with her, but really it's just a selfish obsession. If it was love, while he could be heartbroken, he'd accept her choices and want her to be happy instead of tying to kill her family. That's just unhealthy possessiveness. 

Sounds interesting. Indeed, if Andrew did not previously know about Dash such a first meeting and developing relationship could be complicated. On the one hand they're relatives but on the other their worldviews would probably clash. Their opinion on Andross could also lead to arguments. If Andrew is still blindly idealizing his uncle, he may not be the most patient with Dash's more objective approach. It'd certainly be a great opportunity to explore the personalities of these two characters. And it could be quite entertaining to read.

The longer one focusing on StarWolf and Venom sounds interesting too. There are too few fanfics that focus on the origin of StarWolf and among the ones that do exist too many focus purely on Wolf and his relationship to James or Fox and almost ignore Wolf's teammates or Venom.

Indeed, the lylat war shouldn't be too short. In the games the time-span isn't specified but it should be a realistic one.

Sure, when Dash finds out about his relation to Andross it'd be an important point in his life and he'd need to get to term with this information. As such it's another good point in his life to really explore his character in a fanfic.

Yes, Command can be a good thing to get ideas or characters from but it's really too much of a mess to completely base a story on it. 

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-21 12:20:13 +0000 UTC]

for this element of Vixy is that I want to use her for my future fanfics: Andross is so possessive with her, but he does not realize that, and thinks that more than anything is pure love, that both really loved each other and that the best solution to make her his own was to kill a man. Even if the interactions of the two seem very normal, you know there is something really wrong with Andross. Clearly, if vixy was an intelligent woman, she had to notice some madness of Andross towards her.

Even within one of the ideas of my future fanfic, the sister of Andross (character who invents) realizes that her older brother is very sick and possessive with Vixy, and asks him to stop being a blind idiot and realize since he's been getting worse since she married James ... obviously, andross was deaf to her.

Honestly that's what I expected to see from Command, that these two characters with the same blood would meet and have a horrible battle of their positions between the two. And it gives me the idea that Dash does not really want to hurt his cousin, but he must fight against him.

(But as we know ... command failure also in that sense).

I would also like to work on that detail: Wolf is the protagonist, that's for sure, but I also want to work on the other characters: Andrew trying to develop himself as a better soldier, and noticing some chemistry between this strange group of mercenaries, Pigma and his relationship with Andross, his plans and his role in the war, and Leon trying to know what the hell is going on with these three characters (since Leon does not know at all about certain details of the characters), but he stands firm and protects Wolf coast.

Any idea that serves to explore the character I like too much, and I think that at this point you realize that I like the fanfics where they focus on the development of the characters that simply be action.

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-21 15:48:42 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I think that on a superficial level Andross interactions with Vixy seem normal and even kind but she senses that something is off just because tiny details or maybe the way he looks at her are strange.
I also think that Andross, who actually is a brilliant man, accidentally killing the wrong person indicates that in some way his thinking is warped. Surely a genius should be aware that, if you place an explosive somewhere to kill someone, there's a chance that it'll hit the wrong person and that this wrong person could be someone who closely interacts with the person you're trying to kill. It'd seem that Andross mind was so obsessive that he didn't apply rational thinking and thorough planning as he would do with his scientific work.
In my head-canon Andross also doesn't accept that Vixy's death was his fault and it fuels hit hatred towards James instead.

Speaking of Andross sister you came up with. What kind of relationship does she have to her brother? Does she look up to him as much as Andrew does? Or if not, why does Andrew favor his uncle?

Yes, absolutely. Dash and Andrew should have met in Command. It's such an obvious opportunity to do some exciting character interactions but, no, Nintendo completely missed it. It'd also, maybe, have given Andrew at least a bit of a proper role in the game.
Still, the part where Dash showed up was one of the more interesting story-lines in Command because him meeting up with StarFox also is interesting as he reveals that he's related to Andross.
Fox handled that situation well. Falco was being a total dick, which suits him but still somehow like a lot of dialogue in Command I didn't think it was done perfectly.
Dash and Andrew not meeting is just another on the endless list of opportunities Command missed.

I too like stories that develop characters in depth. In a typical StarFox story, if it's long at least, there will be action at some point and I also care if that's well done or not, but to really love a story I usually need it to have interesting and plausible character development and different kinds of and well thought-out interpersonal relationships between the characters.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-22 04:47:09 +0000 UTC]

I had not thought about that whole idea of Andross and his horrible plan against James. The truth makes him see more like a crazy obsessive blind than a crazy genius. I like the concept you said, and it is likely that he is so blind to deny it as well.

To all this, I do not know if someone else thought about it, but: In case Andross' plan worked, in case he managed to relate back to Vixy, he would achieve his plan to be with her and marry ... knowing that Vixy already had a son with James, that would not return Andross the stepfather of Fox? (And in another case, Andrew would become a cousin to Fox). It's an idea that I find so bizarre or strange, or maybe Andross would do the same with Fox with what he did to James ...

(This will be long, oh boy, but I'll try to be brief) Barbara (Andross's sister) is the little sister, and was the first Andrew for Andross.

Barbara was a bright, intelligent and very big fan of her older brother from an early age. Although science was not his great interest, he always appreciated and admired the inventions that his older brother created and thought for the future of Corneria. She saw as much potential in her as her adoptive parents and friends did, that even she even gave her life savings so that he could enter the city's technobiology university.

She continued to admire and love him for several years, and Andross on his part, even if he had a huge job in hand, he was always there to take care of her and protect her (overprotect her, rather). They were both very good brothers and they loved each other ... it hurts that fate changed all of their friendship.

First, when Andross fell in love with Vixy, and saw that he was very obsessive with that fox woman, Barbaba despised her very much out of jealousy. And when Vixy decided to start a relationship with James, Barbara despise her even more, because she feel like his brother, who was a positive man, to start acting depressed. (Although this was clear that it was Barbara's things to be very young, as she grew up she would open her eyes better).

Second: And when Andross began to ... behave really strange, Barbara began to notice the dark behavior of her older brother, but she tried to deny it at first.

A breaking point that began to go wrong in their relationship was when Barbara met a guard soldier of Andross. As I said, Andross was always overprotective with her, and from what happened with Vixy and her wedding with James, he acted obsessively with his own sister. He detested the soldier who was really interested in Barbara, and she in a short time, same as she was interested in this man. Barbara knew that her brother did not approve of the relationship, so she began to see herself in secret with this soldier (and sometimes they ended up being intimate between the two). Unfortunately, a few weeks later, the soldier disappears, and Barbara is left alone with Andross. Months later, they discover that she would have her first child and ... well, what do you think would be Andross' reaction to knowing that her sister had relations with the man she forbade relating to?

But I think I already explain too much about their relationship, I do not want to expand too much because I plan to do a comic on andross and its path to madness, but I will answer your points.


Already at this point, you will have noticed that she was like Andrew, and she was a huge influence on her son and his relationship with his uncle.

As I said, she still denied that her brother was becoming a monster, she thought it was only because Andross was still angry about what happened between the two and because of Vixy, she did not see beyond that, simply, a huge selfishness of Andross . Even if Andrew was a baby, Barbara would talk to him and tell him how great and great his brother was, and he knew that Andrew listened to her attentively, and learned from her. Also happened that from birth, Barbara was very weak physical state, and she asked her brother to take care of Andrew (And Andross obeyed, but not because he loved his sister, and no more, now was just to not have problems with her).

Barbara loved her brother so much, that she influenced Andrew so much to love him as she did for him. Barbara still had the confidence that her brother was a normal person, her beloved brother who saw a bright future and wanted the best for others.

Barbara died knowing that Andross was responsible for the death of Vixy, responsible for the death of the soldier who gave him his son, and that Andrew now loves a man who was an immoral beast.

And now, Andrew had to be raised by Andross, still being influenced by his deceased mother, being manipulated by his uncle from a very young age, probably until it's time to leave.

(Ok, this part was very long, but I hope I have answered your questions well).

I'd love to be able to write a lot of fanfics about the relationship to Andrew and Dash, they have so much potential because of the single blood relationship that the two have for andross.

Those stories are too appreciated, and I hope Nintendo someday make an official story with his starfox characters of that style.

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-23 11:17:19 +0000 UTC]

That's an interesting thought, yes. What if Andross had succeeded?
I imagine Vixy as a kind-hearted but not naive woman. There's a chance she'd have figured out who killed James. Sure, with his job there must have been more people who wanted to see him dead but she may still have recognized the truth. In any case, had Andross also killed Fox afterwards, she'd have to have some suspicions. After all not many others would gain anything from killing a small child. And Andross and Vixy might not be able to have a child together being different species and all.
Still, given how blinded Andross seems to be in that regard, maybe he'd have murdered Fox too.
I think the idea of Andrew and Fox becoming cousins is just funny. It could work as a humorous AU fanfic but I don't think anyone has ever written anything like that.

Seems like Barbara was too weak to get along on her own - at least on an emotional level and at least in the beginning. It just shows further how obsessive and possessive Andross is that he'd not allow her to have a relationship. It's like he can't bear to loose control of any of the people who should be important to him.
Yes, that explains it well. I'd assume it also gives Andrew an additional reason to not question his uncle, because if he did he'd also question his deceased mother.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-23 12:42:18 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, not only Vixy would suspect Andross, Peppy would likewise if he knew Andross and his horrible image of a madman. Pigma too, but he sure would not say anything because his relationship with Andross. Pepper at this point would also suspect his friend, if Andross has revealed among friends' talks his contempt for James.

And probably many more people would suspect the new husband of vixy, for the death of James, and in case Fox died (As happens many times in reality). If Andross is smart, he would not kill Fox so soon, he should wait until it's been a while since James's death and a little forgotten. If he kills Fox in a few weeks, he would be the first suspect (and with many reasons). I do not know if Andross would let Fox live for so long until he was a teenager, but the mere idea of ​​raising the son of man that "he took your girl away" would be something that would make him very sick.

Honestly, always imagine Andross being a genius of manipulation, but I do not think that everyone falls into his false image of a healthy person.

I need to write a fanfic about that topic, I always thought that these two characters have a lot in common, and to see them as cousins ​​would be hilarious.

The only idea that his sister was out of his life, by a man who despises, as that this situation makes you remember what happened to Vixy and him.

Andross just loves the idea of having power over people, and the first people to suffer it is his own sister and nephew.

Note: In fact, Andrew knows about his mother's death ... oh at least he knows she's dead, Andross lied to him saying that she died in a hospital because of her poor health, and not that she died in the cold streets of Corneria, escaping from him.

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-24 15:22:14 +0000 UTC]

Certainly, Andross would be an obvious suspect.

He may be a genius of manipulation but I think it may depend. When he's in a calm and collected mindset he could plan ahead and think everything through and then, being a highly intelligent and methodical person, he should be good at detecting any holes or inconsistencies in his lies. But I think his facade begins to crumble when it comes to Vixy or other things he's obsessive about in an emotional way.
Being intelligent in a scientific, rational way and being good at understanding other's emotions are also different things. Given that he thinks his obsession about Vixy is love, I'd not necessarily assume that he truly understands genuine love between two people for example. At least in my headcanon that is why she notices that something about his interactions with her seems off, because he doesn't manage to pretend with perfection, given that he's blind to some differences between feelings (like the difference between love and what he feel about her)

Fox and Andrew have something in common in the sense that they have a famous relative to whose expectations they're trying to live up to and that they're completely loyal to their respective side in the war. Is there anything else I'm missing? Another similarity you see between them?

True, a story with them as cousins could be hilarious.

Ah, so he knows about her death but she never got the chance to communicate to him that his uncle isn't all that great as she initially told him.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-24 16:57:13 +0000 UTC]

You are quite right in everything you have said. Being a subject genius and really understanding people is very different. Even I know people who are geniuses in art, history, etc, but they are not at all intelligent when it comes to relating or understanding what someone really feels. They make real cretins when they try to relate.

Andross could be that kind of person, the one who thinks he knows everything, the one who knows that everyone will fall at his feet or who will believe every word he says. He who feels proud of himself, who wants everyone to think that he is bigger than the others, and that he can use anyone for that.

The one who thinks he is in love, but only wants to possess that person as his own on a whim, the one who killed anyone to get what he wants. No matter who he is, he just wants to have what he wants.

Andross is just a psychopath disguised as a genius or a person.

In fact, that's what I think of Andrew and Fox! I know the idea sounds silly, but the fact that the two are related by the most important figures in the saga or starfox universe, and that they have to represent their father and uncle respectively, seems to me an interesting idea to give them a dynamic (if we can see them interact once). Also there is the detail that the two, during the lylat war, are just young (I think Fox would be two years older than Andrew), and really thinking that young boys fighting in the war is worrying, they make you appreciate Pretty much at two.

At least, if the two could interact without having any idea of killing each other, I would like to think that they would see these similarities between the two.

And yeah... Andrew is tied to his uncle without knowing the truth of everything.

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NadaYNadie In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-25 17:24:04 +0000 UTC]

Yes, Andrew and Fox do have to meet similar expectations and have similar problems. In a way they might be able to relate to each others struggles, if they were willing to do so. It'd be hard to get them to directly interact with each other tough. Andrew probably hates Fox too much for trying to kill his uncle/having killed his uncle. And if they were to have some serious discussion about the war it'd probably turn into a heated disagreement. I don't think Andrew is willing to consider a different point of view when it comes to his uncle or Venom or the war.
To have a peaceful discussion they'd probably need to be careful with some sensitive topics and I'm not sure if Andrew would be willing to do so.
Indeed, they're both young, inexperienced and fighting in a war. Fox seems to be able to handle that pressure better than Andrew, maybe, but internally he's probably scared of failing, not meeting everyone's expectations or getting killed too.

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MArt1nc In reply to NadaYNadie [2018-08-25 23:52:47 +0000 UTC]

Yes, Andrew was born with the idea of not betraying any element of his uncle or Venom that would not treat a relationship outside the subject of this, and Fox inside if he must be too afraid, especially if we think that the emperor wants kill him especially.

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MArt1nc In reply to kol98 [2018-08-09 16:26:01 +0000 UTC]

jdfhhf jejeje oh vaya, no pensé que en verdad te gustaría tanto, estoy muy a gusto de que te haya encantado!   

He tenido cierta inspiración de la artista Almightyhamslice almightyhamslice.tumblr.com/ con respecto a los jefes de Starfox 64, ya que les da mucha importancia y personalidad que me enamoro - especialmente su Caimán  (Que por cierto, me da mucha risa de que en si Caiman fuera el mas popular ya que, como muchos dicen, el personaje no se ve como un reptil y si como un mono, y por la actitud que tiene durante el juego - ademas de tener una voz muy juvenil tierno en japones - ), para mi, ese artista es un gran fan de todos los jefes.

Pero lo cierto es que después de acordarme de estos personajes ( Y si, admito que me olvide de estos personajes... ) me gusto que aun siendo todos villanos o personajes de fondo, se nota que tienen personalidades distintas y podrían tener cierta historia dentro de la guerra de lylat, por eso pensé " heeey, con algo puedo hacer con estos tipos ademas de ser soldados de Andross". Por eso voy avisando que tengo pensado hacer mas dibujos con estos chicos malos, ademas de mucha participación y relación con Starwolf (Spoilers : Galaxicos/Meteo Crusher Pilot sera el que tenga mas protagonismo de esos jefes). Y con los personajes del cómic, me sirvió igual de inspiración (de hecho, tenia esta idea de que en Venom no hay muchas mujeres... o simplemente no habia... vaya a saber porque, pero ver de vuelta el cómic me hizo pensarlo mejor).

Con respecto a los otros personajes secundarios, mi gran inspiración fue el artista de A Fox in Space, el al parecer tuvo la brillante idea de darle variedad a los soldados de Venom respecto a especies de primates y reptiles afoxinspace.tumblr.com/post/15… . Ya con el mandril del minicomic notas la inspiración (Nota: Lo gracioso es que de todos los tipos de primates que existen.... el mandril es el que mas miedo me da... ). Ademas, no estaba a gusto con la idea de que todos los soldados se vean como una sola especie (porque en si, Granga,Shogun pilot y Caiman parecen ser el mismo modelo) y ya sabes que nunca me ha gustado repetir el mismo modelo de personaje, por eso decidí variar en los extras.

Y OH SI, ERA NECESARIO QUE ANDREW HAGA LO MAS TIPICO QUE HACE .... SIMPLEMENTE ENOJARSE Y LLORAR EN SU INTERIOR!     

jajaja me da gusto saber igualmente que te haya gustado los diálogos. Honestamente pienso que soy malisima haciéndolos, pero gracias por tus palabras!  

Muchas gracias por comentar como siempre mi querido amigo! Que Leon bichi te acompañe en sueños!    

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kol98 In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-11 05:23:53 +0000 UTC]

Es lo bueno de los fandoms grandes como el de Starfox, y como he dicho, habrá usuarios que le den relevancia a los personajes menores.

Me gusta tu idea de cómo usarlos y sabes, eso está chido, explorar un poco más el universo con otros personajes, eso lo expande más, digo, esta chido los protagonistas y todo, pero se ha explorado mucho y ver trabajos como los tuyos se agradece. 

Si la influencia que te dio Fox in Space, imagine que habías tomado algunos personajes y también eso de darle variedad enriquece las cosas. Ya quisiera que los OC’s de Zootopia fueran más que zorros, conejos, lobos y felinos.

Algun día Andrew tendra el reconocimiento que merece, estoy seguro que así sera.    

Respecto a los diálogos, ya en un tono crítico, pues les da un aire de comedia a los personajes, pero les queda bien ya que Wolf y Leon tienen esa fama entre los “chicos malos”, se hubiera visto muy OP de haber sido un OC (Como abunda en cada fandom). No puedo agregar más al respecto, que todos ellos los necesitaban, y si se pudieran organizar mejor, quien sabe, podrían por fin derrotar Starfox.

Gracias, pues podría decirte que ya me está acompañando.

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MArt1nc In reply to kol98 [2018-08-12 17:21:19 +0000 UTC]

Si, el universo de Starfox es muy grande y lleno de personajes, cada uno con su variedad y personalidades distintas. Ademas de misterios y ideas con mucho potencial. Y aun si Tumbrl es una pagina... eh, "ecpezial", la mayoría de las buenas ideas y inspiración que he encontrado de los fans de SF fue ahí mismo (Y en Pixiv en temas de fanarts).

Y hablando de ideas ; Las pocas que he pensado con estos chicos malos es para resaltar lo horrible que es Venom (antes y después de que Andross llegara), también el explorar la personalidad insana que tiene Andross y como fue empeorando por varios años. Ademas de otros temas como la horrible personalidad que tiene Andrew con ellos ( Y que ellos tienen con el... ) y como el General Pepper "les arruino la vida". Ademas que alguna que otra interacción importante con Wolf,Leon y Pigma. Y Ojala! esos animales son muy populares y son muy bonitos, pero vamos! Hay otros tipos de animales que hay que darle importancia!.

Y ehm, pues, con la personalidad que Andrew tiene... le costara mucho sudor y sangre... si es que mueve un dedo primero.

honestamente, si, estaba un poco nerviosa de que sonara muy chupa huevos (como muchos dicen) todos los diálogos, pero ya que se trata de Wolf y Leon, y dentro de una franquicia como Starfox, que siempre de algún modo tiene comedia, creo que estan bien. Muchas gracias por tu critica, siempre es un gusto recibir criticas de tu parte. Y de nada!!   

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MArt1nc In reply to LemmyKoopas1FanGirl [2018-08-08 19:12:09 +0000 UTC]

or.. i'ts going to be a Knife Edge Death Match!

Thank you so much!!!

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LemmyKoopas1FanGirl In reply to MArt1nc [2018-08-08 20:50:23 +0000 UTC]

Welp, we know who would win that match

Your very welcome

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