HOME | DD
Martith — Using references is not a crime
#crime #references #sake #not #using
Published: 2017-02-18 12:51:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 1725; Favourites: 154; Downloads: 0
Redirect to original
Description
Stamp border by Gasara
Do you love foxes? Come and join us!
Your like is very appreciated
Martith
Instagram
Artstation
Artists&Clients
Related content
Comments: 72
References are okay to use to learn certain skills, but at some point artists should be able to draw without using them. That being said, as long as people credit any references they use, it's not a big problem and not the worst thing an artist can do.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Well, no. The artists are using references, even in the big companies producing games, movies etc. they use references. All the time.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Hm, I suppose that's true.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
I don't think people find using references as a crime: it's using references as a crutch that can be a problem.
References are good and helpful but as with everything, there should be balance and using references as a crutch is not a good thing. I've seen really talented artists use references as a crutch and it tends to put a pause on their improvement since they depend on photos for what they're doing. For this reason, such artists can have lots of artworks that look the same or similar or most of their works can be lacking in imagination, dynamic posing, perspective/angle variation, etc.
It's like riding a bike. If you use those training wheels every single time you ride then you're not gonna learn to be independent. However, if you gradually use them less and less after fully depending on them for the amount of time you need, you'll gradually become independent from them, for the most part, and you'll begin the next steps to improving your riding abilities. It's the same with references: they are important but also shouldn't be used as a crutch for every drawing and when the thing you're referencing has been learned, it's best to use such references lighter and lighter until you are artistically independent.
Like, with me, people see in my streams that when I use references for poses, the final pose looks absolutely nothing like the ref photos I use because I've learned to be more independent and use references only lightly. XD
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
I do loads of shout outs and homages in my writing and I always try to credit the source when I can.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeah! Besides, you can claim ownership of a pose, which is what I use references for.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Exactly!! And there are plenty of CC licensed references available if you are worried about dealing with copyright/tracking down the original/whatever else!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Exaclty that! And very often the CC0 licensed photos are really high quality!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Definitely! I think a lot of people get nervous around this due to the copyright laws. But as long as the art isn't recognizable as the original (at least in the US), then you're just fine. Or by having the permission of the reference artist. I often use a handful of references to create one piece so the new art is a completely new creation. They're very useful for getting proportions, lighting, and coloring right, at least while learning the subject.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
That's true. And of course there's a huge difference between making a painting (even really identical) with photo reference just for fun/study, not trying to get money for that + crediting the photographer and the photo tracing just to sell it as a print or whatsoever.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Exactly! Especially if it's just for a pose.
Like, come on people.... :l
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Without references or tutorials you can't improve. Sometimes our memory is a bit screwy and if everyone drew just on memory alone everything would look weird.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
The truth has been spoken.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
causing epileptic seizures might be...
Good message, tho!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
You think? ;-; I was hoping it's small enough to let people be able to not look on that for too long ;^;
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
People keep thinking that my work is traced, but that's not true! I just simply used a reference! I never trace my work!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Exactly, and it's totally bad for being judged every time, or being told: you have no skill, it's just repainting.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
And that's totally ok! But there are people who gets vilified for using a photo references while drawing... and that's bad.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Indeed, if i use a photo i normally describe it , so its clear i drawn it and i saw a photo.
Even academia advise to use references for study purposes.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
| Next =>