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Description There is a bit of irony here...and it's not the fact that twilight can see past the fourth wall...nor what I did with pinkie pie. It does have to do with Pinkie Pie however.
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Waltervd [2016-04-05 23:39:32 +0000 UTC]

i usually edit the lines for the models to be all black xDΒ Β 
since they to tend to look wierd if you dontΒ 

Β < like with these 2 images

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mattwo In reply to Waltervd [2016-04-06 00:26:38 +0000 UTC]

Hey there, I recognize your Tyandaga model, are you in The Rift Cafe?

Also, you're going to have to explain to me how you did that. Unless you're talking about the above right image of Twilight Sparkle, because that's not MMD, that's SFM.



Not that it really matters though, these models are not mine. In fact I have no idea if the MMD ones are heavily edited from KP-Shadowsquirrel's or not.

The japanese members of the MMD community pretty much ALL have a thing against editing and stuff and like to damage the community more than help it by pulling models when people don't follow their rules to the letter, even when they don't own the characters or original models. Many non-japanese members of the MMD community have also taken up this mindset (though the one used here is spesfically from a japanese bowlroll user).

As such I am none to eager to edit MMD models that don't belong to me and post stuff of the edited versions where the original creator/porter/editor would likely find my edits.

Besides, due to administrative lack of humanity in most social media websites (which involves a lot more than just the fair use issue) I'm not uploading to sites like Youtube Deviantart or Tumblr right now, only Zippcast and Zippcast is a video website, not an image sharing website, so I probably wouldn't have much need for this information any time in the foreseeable future.

Remember: The admins here do not care about you, only the money you're making them off of YOUR art.

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Waltervd In reply to mattwo [2016-04-06 05:08:38 +0000 UTC]

No i am not in the rift cafeΒ 
The head of.my own oc is indeed from kpshadowsquirrel i asked if i can edit the models
And i got a yes for that in return.

The mmdc is shit due to illegal or repeditive edits that can be bland
Ever since tda came out people have been editing the shit out of the model when you cant even put tda parts on a different model but you can put other peoples parts on a tda model....

But mehΒ 
I usually do what i want to do and abide by the rules set by the modeler

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mattwo In reply to Waltervd [2016-04-06 06:59:48 +0000 UTC]

Yea, KP-Shadowsqirrel doesn't seem to care much how people use his models.

The one I used in this picture for Pinkie Pie was released by ttasattasa. I question whether or not they are heavily edited due to the...questionable face rigging. For a good example of this, look atΒ  9:49 of www.zippcast.com/video/d4859e5… . Really though, the mouths in general just look completely weird.

I abide by the rules as much as I can but giving credit every single freaking time I use a model is just too much of a nuisance for me and like I said, being stingy about their models is hurting the community more than helping. After all, there's more than one reason why so many people use those tda models so much I'm sure.

I almost wish the creators of the models people make BS rules for when they don't own them or the characters would issue a mass C&D for fraudulent claims of copyright ownership. You see, as per international copyright law, you automatically claim ownership of everything you upload and only the uploaders themselves or a copyright claim can say otherwise (if it's an American website, then it's spesfically a DMCA claim but sites like Pixiv, Nicovideo and Bowlroll abide by Japanese law and DMCA is solely American and Japan lacks the same kind of fair use laws several western nations have, hence why Japanese companies are some of the most well known for abusing YouTube's copyright systems, they don't understand they need to abide by American law).

However of course, that would also ultimately hurt more than help even if the claims were made against people who already removed all their downloads, in which case they would only be able to take action against derivative works (images using the models) and that would be even worse.

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Waltervd In reply to mattwo [2016-04-06 08:49:36 +0000 UTC]

The biggest thing i hate the most in the mmdc is when they make an illegal edit and dont even credit or worse sell the model.

Most of the people think only of them selves and dont care what happens
I loathe that type of people.
It sometimes get worse when you tell them that what they made/sell is illegal but as per usual you get hate from them plus the people who agree with the editor that i am playing the mmd police while i should have to play it if people abide by the set rules even if their bs
But they are not set by the editor but by the original creator.

I dont create that much original work ( yet ) but stuff like thats make me wanna stop giving people partsΒ 
Or even quit the mmdc

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mattwo In reply to Waltervd [2016-04-06 20:04:09 +0000 UTC]

Seeing as that wouldn't directly effect me I don't care so much unless there was a model I wanted that costed money.

As an aside I really want those Sega Hard Girls models that came with a japanese PC magazine but the MMD community has a thing against distributing commercial models even when they're painfully difficult to obtain. Though maybe I can ask the guy in charge of Samuraibuyer to sell the issue they come with to me or something. I don't really have the money for that at the moment though.

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Waltervd In reply to mattwo [2016-04-06 20:27:52 +0000 UTC]

with the models it usually depends on the rules set on them
if they have a rule that allows people to share them its pretty much always good

there was one person on DA that usually linked models for download ( as in showed the model in a image and have a link where you could find the pass / download location Β )
but i sadly forgot the name xD


i think people wise that they need to be a bit less selfish and think about others when doing something against a set rule.
if you don't do it on something that you cant hold on to i sometimes wonder if i will if it was for something real


also its has been fun talking to you XD
i was at work and i didnt got a lot to do so i sorta read the whole thing patiently xD

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mattwo In reply to Waltervd [2016-04-06 21:20:52 +0000 UTC]

By the way, just curious, how did you find this image? It just seems like such a bizarre coincidence that someone linked your Tyandaga video in the rift and then a couple days later you're commenting on one of my MMD/SFM pics I posted two whole years ago(man so much has changed for me since then lol).

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Waltervd In reply to mattwo [2016-04-06 21:28:07 +0000 UTC]

i told tyandaga that i was working on a model for him so he may have shared it there ?

where is the rift then btw xD

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mattwo In reply to Waltervd [2016-04-06 21:39:14 +0000 UTC]

Wasn't him who posted the link.

Also it's a skype group. I'm not 100% certain who the mods are aside from The Second Opinion (www.youtube.com/channel/UCvEK5… ).

I think Shift-1347 and UnovaBrony are also mods there though.

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Waltervd In reply to mattwo [2016-04-06 21:50:50 +0000 UTC]

hmz now i sorta want to be put into that chat now xD
tyandaga has my skype xD

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mattwo In reply to Waltervd [2016-04-06 22:32:25 +0000 UTC]

Well you can ask those three I mentioned. Tyandaga isn't a mod.

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Waltervd In reply to mattwo [2016-04-06 22:38:09 +0000 UTC]

ill do that tomorrow xD

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TECH097 [2015-11-23 15:45:35 +0000 UTC]

Wait so you can make Cell Shading in SFM a thing?

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mattwo In reply to TECH097 [2015-11-24 19:33:28 +0000 UTC]

Yea it's a real simple trick with the ambient occlusion settings. It doesn't use a toon shader though.

RaptorNX01 has all kinds of neat SFM tutorials www.youtube.com/playlist?list=…

I think the third ambient occlusion setting is the one that makes models white with black outlines. I remember seeing an amazing video once that used this.

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