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"Did you ever consider you could hurt Jumin a lot more than he would ever hurt you?"-----
Β SPOILERS BELOW
Okay, so I realize Jumin Han is a super controversial character in Mystic Messenger. I thought, heading into his route, I was going to find him boring and just move on. Little did I know, he ended up being one of my absolute favorite routes and characters among the cast. However, many who expected to love Jumin were very frightened and unnerved by his route. Thus, I decided to draw some different views on Jumin!
Really, the 'other' views will give you a bad ending 'cause you didn't get to the heart of Jumin before fearing him and creating him as a monster in your head. Which, honestly, you're free to have negative feelings toward Jumin 'cause he might be a little triggering in his unstable points to some people. The other side that complements how IΒ see Jumin get you the good ending 'cause you understood why he was acting out and saying weird things and then retreating from them constantly. Which, in the end, you manage to bring him through the most severe moments of his life in a mere couple of days! Impressive recovery, if I say so, Mr. Han.
By the way, I am in no way claiming to be the only special snowflake who got Jumin's good end just because you genuinely cared about him and his mental issues XD My roommate actually agrees with the bottom image, too! I've just met others who really hate his route, too, and that's okay as well! More Jumin for me UwU+
As a last note, for those who haven't played, these images are drastic imaginings from the viewpoint of each person. Never does Jumin strangle you, have a knife, curl up on the ground, or grasp his head for comfort. These are just what I imagine from the eyes of each player's view around the time where Jumin puts his hand on the wall you're up against. (He never really touches your character in that moment, but he doesn't cower from your character in that moment either).
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I just finished Jumin's route a week ago and this is exactly how I feel about Jumin T.T I told my friends the exact same thing. I hate Zen so much for laughing at him on his route about showing his emotion.Β He's my favorite <3 Thank you much for thisΒ
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No problem, friend! I feel as though Jumin is misunderstood, or his behavior makes a lot of people unsettled, but I adore him uwu He's a good character, in my opinion, and I'm happy to make him feel comfortable with his emotions!
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Thank you. I liked Jumin Han because I connected with him in regards to his unspoken mental illness and how he tried to handle his feelings for the MC. He almost seemed to have the mentality of a child when it came to empathy and I found that interesting. I liked him so much, I got annoyed at the other characters on 707's route for insulting him.
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Right? Jumin is a very interesting and complex character that I think even the characters in the game have a habit of simplifying into a rude robot. However, I don't think Jumin has once had the intention of ever hurting a single soul. He seems like a nice guy to me, but he just doesn't know how to operate emotions very well and express gratitude often because it wasn't something he was accustomed to growing up. He was raised, alienated from a normal life with normal emotions and scenarios, so he's a very awkward and stifled man; I like to think that Jumin's route helps him become more in touch with who he is and how he feels about the world as a whole.
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Yes, I've noticed that in the other routes, as well. Zen is the worse offender and while he has a backstory that (sort of) explains it, it really doesn't excuse the fact that he is extremely rude to Jumin, in spite of the fact that the latter has tried to help him many times. Yes, he hits me as unintentionally unsympathetic as opposed to the unfeeling robot that the other characters seem to paint him as.
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Yeah, Zen definitely hates on Jumin the most... At some point, though, I know that Jumin and Zen are both good people, despite their differences. Zen can be pretty harsh, and it always seems kind of ungrateful when Zen rejects his help, but I know that he wants to reach the top through his own talent above all, so I can respect that. I just wish he was nicer about it... I agree that Jumin doesn't mean to be distant toward the feelings of others; I think, he just doesn't understand the feelings of others. As you find out in his route, though, he canΒ learn how others feel and how you feel and most importantly how HE feels.
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Yes, I do too. Jumin was never taught to empathize, heck, he was probably dissuaded against it considering his position as the heir of a major company would make empathy a detrimental quality to have. He honestly doesn't mean to be cold in his ways, he seriously thought that paying Jaehee a lot of money made up for her insane work schedule and was confused when no one else agreed. Yes, bu[t I have to say Zen already got on my nerves with his boasting so I'm probably being biased against him anyways. I honestly thought it was really sad to see him struggle with his feelings in the route. On one hand, he didn't want to lose you, on the other, he doesn't want to scare you away either. And then there's the story of him being in love with Rika but having to keep his mouth shut because his best friend was dating her. Sometimes, I just wanted to give him a hug.
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Dude, true that TTwTT Jumin deserves all of the hugs.
Β And that was a really well thought-out response! Thank you for sharing >w<
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I just want to love my sad son ;-;
Glad to see other people taking this how i saw it tbh
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Yeah! IRL, the amount of people who see him the way that gets the Bad End and the amount of people who see him the way that gets them the Good End are pretty split... It's kind of sad to me when people think he's scary 'cause you just KNOW he'd never lay a hand on you, right? He's such a sweet person, really!
I'm glad you agree~
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Yeah, and the thing is is that to get that bad end you're actively having to manipulate him. He doesn't want to get like that, but your actions can cause it to happen.
To get his "kinky bad end" you're actively manipulating an obviously mentally ill guy into such a state, and it really bugs me that people don't get that asdfgg
sorry i just...... love jumin.... so much.......
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No dude, I totally understand XD He's such a good person!
And not only is he having his biggest, life crisis after discovering feelings for you, but he's also trying so hard to prevent you from going home to an apartment with a bomb in it, into any area a killer/hacker might find you, and is in general trying so hard to protect you... To run away or try to ditch him, even after he tries so hard to cope with his instability and keep you safe, it seems so mean to me...
Although, some people generally feel very unsafe and uncomfortable with him! Which probably just means that they're not compatible with his route, and that's perfectly okay too... IT's just kind of sad to watch the bad end be achieved when you know how hurt and messed up Jumin ends up in it...
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Oh man why doesn't this piece have more recognition?! This is a fantastic portrayal of the different ends of the spectrum on Jumin Han. He's a fascinating character to say the least, plus a tad comical at times. To be honest I thought he'd be a Christian Grey style character, but NO. Cheritz is 1000x better at making me care about and be interested in a character than ANYTHING E. L. James has ever written.
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Why thank you, friend! And thank you for adding me to your watch >w< I've only just posted this image, but I hope other people will like it, too!
He's a very intriguing character... I think, that's a lot of the reason why I love him! He's more than just your face-value, Christian Grey. It's kind of disappointing when people try to reduce Jumin's character to a kink. All I heard from him before his route was, "He's just bondage." He's SO much more than bondage! XD He's a really well-written, complex character with severe, emotional issues that have been repressed since childhood!
That's more than just a kink, honestly UwU;
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You style is very nice, and you have a lot of critical thinking included in your post, so I think that you'll get a lot of people agreeing with and noticing it.
Christian Grey is full-fledgedly a face-value character with what I know. I haven't read FSOG (save a snippet I sneaked in at a book store) or seen the movie adaptation (with the exception of the random times I saw the trailer or the cinema sins video), but I'm aware that based on all that I know, attempts to ellicit sympathy from the reader for Mr. Grey are poorly executed.
Now, I may be biased by my preference for animated characters, but I find that the Cheritz team flawlessly executed a lot of plot points in which the intent is that the player feels sympathy for the characters in general.
And definitely. Repressed emotions with odd outlets honestly have more effect on the reader/player than some old red room and a belt. I know, I MAY be snubbing FSOG with the way I'm speaking about it, but ultimately Jumin is a better made character with astounding depth.
Speaking of astounding depth, V.
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Aw, thank you, friend! I know some Jumin lovers out there will be happy with my post and maybe relate to it a bit~
From what I also understand of snippets and CinemaSins (I can't believe you watched that too XD It was one of my first CinemaSins videos), FSOG is definitely shallow for a romance or even an erotica novel. Which, honestly, doesn't say much for the genre, unfortunately. Both genre often fall to terrible tropes and lack of originality. That's why I enjoy well-written stories with romantic plots like Cheritz! Because these stories take the story past a simple, cliche romance and into fields of other genres too, they can execute a very empathetic and intriguing story line! When your plot is more or less "timid person can't approach dominant person" and there's seldom any drama but a couple, basic misunderstandings any normal set of people would have approached in ten minutes, it's hard to call the story even a story. THere's conflict, scenario, characters, but it lacks the magic key to storytelling: empathy.
Cheritz manages to gain a lot of empathy, even with characters like Saeyoung that have such farfetched backstories that are hard to relate to. Even so, his broken sibling relationship, his disconnect with the world, and his deceit toward those close to him are very relative things that can have a very strong impact on viewers. It's 'out of this world' but still 'within reach', so it's not so astronomical of a series of events that we can't even begin to understand it ourselves. Once you get that complicated and strip the story of what makes it human (reasoning, comedy, irrational and rational approaches based on motives and emotion), you've stripped it of any appeal.
OH MAN, don't even get me started on V XD Shortly put, he's an easy character to love, hate, understand, misunderstand, feel for, worry for, stand against, stand by, and overall grieve for. I feel exasperated with his actions at times, and at other times, I feel the desperate need to understand him and pardon him beyond his terrible mistakes. He's a boy in love, and it was ultimately his biggest downfall... Holding onto that love was merely settling his and many others fates into misery and doom.
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Ahahah have you seen the honest trailer? With the parody of crazy love? ("I wish somebody could taze me right now, this story's 'bout as sexy as rabies right now.")
It's really not interesting or emotionally swaying when he says "I'm fifty shades of f*cked up."
It just sounds like he's an edgy 12 year old tbh...
Oh definitely, Cheritz has a number of genres that keep a player laughing, crying, raging and everything in between.
Goodness it seems you have quite the colourful spectrum of feelings towards that tragic mint man. Have you noticed that his character traits are really. F*cking. Ironic?
-Blind photographer
-Literally and figuratively blinded by love
-He has a VERY quiet demeanor but figuratively just f*cking screams for affection if not just simply comfort.
As you can see I have a lot of sympathy/empathy for him, because... well, the guy just held on too long and loved someone he shouldn't have to an insane extent. Personally I think he's still a beautiful character, and even according to the Chertiz team, he's a character that truly achieves philosophical love. The rather crazy extent to which he went to for Rika shows that his love is practically boundless and easy to manipulate due to his - now literally - blind trust (of course that trust may change after sh*t he went through). It makes me want to... y'know, protect him. Keep him safe from ever being played so far off the edge like that again.
Hahahah I'm rambling about it.
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Oh my gosh, I went to watch that trailer, and it's beautiful XD You're totally right that he sounds absolutely ridiculous saying "I'm fifty shades of f*cked up".
Absolutely! I've only ever played mysmes, but I've heard that the other Cheritz games are really good ^^
Yeah, I have a lot of feelings about V... I love him and want to forgive him for the trouble he's caused and everything he's done and not done because he seemed like such a good man, but he had such blind faith in such a terrible source... Like, that devotion and sincerity was admirable, but it should Β have gone to anyone BUT Rika. And I like the fan art and fanfic where V is still alive and all happy and good, but... Every now and then, despite wanting only good things for V, I think bitterly of him.
Blind faith and love or not, he helped kidnap a child from an abused home only to brainwash it, keep it from society, and essentially offer him up as some sick sacrifice to his romantic partner who was clearly delusional. He got an innocent, battered childΒ involved in a creepy, manipulative cult, ultimately screwing him up almost irreversibly. That kid couldn't even form cohesive, non-screaming sentences when his thoughts were at least a little clear, and he now has seriously violent and socially shattering tendencies... Because V helped take him to this place where he was kept behind bars, medicated against his will, and brainwashed until he could no longer hold faith in the one person who actually care for him and tried to get him away from specifically that kind of mind-altering danger- his brother.
I just... I feel for V, and I love that he is this ironic character. In every chat room, I'd thank V and appreciate the little that he said instead of gather hearts for the characters that could give them to me 'cause I'd rather be some sort of comfort to V than get some hearts for Saeyoung, Yoosung, or Jumin for questioning V and yelling at him. And honestly, I played Yoosung's route first, and I kinda shipped Vsung since then, but overall, V just needs serious help. Maybe as much as Rika needs help. Rika was seriously sick, but V was sick enough to go along with it, let his scars from it be taken beyond repair, and then also let a child be harmed in the way as well. And that... that kind of hurts my trust for V. I still love him, absolutely. I get that he wasn't in the right mind... but I can't exactly forgive him for what he did to Saeran either. You know? I want a redemption for him. I want him and Saeran and Saeyoung to all be able to talk about their past and get V help for his sure mental and physical instability after all this, and then I want them to be a big, happy, RFA family of everyone AND V. And maybe, just for my shipping sake- XD -Yoosung and V can get over their grief of Rika's state together, and Yoosung can stop blaming him solely for everyone's tragedies, even if he DOES have a part in them, and V can realize how wrong his actions were and move on, making a better and healthier man out of himself for the future!
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It's pretty much a way for Christian to say, "I'm cheaply angsty and poorly formed with expressions that are poorly set up!"
It reminds me of Twilight like geez.
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Y'see, this whole message is a full fledged example of "ignorance is bliss" for me.
*is standing here knowing that V did some bad things but completely unaware of the extent that it got to* *reads the message*
Wow holy fUck what-?!
And I'll agree with you entirely on the fact that he should've put that love and faith into someone else entirely. That's a definite fact.
Okay honestly after reading all of that I still dearly love V. And YES definitely I want them to all be a big, happy family. I... have other motives for Yoosung and V putting aside their differences and improving. (You see, I'm really very much in love with V and my best friend adores Yoosung to death, and I joke that I don't want our husbands in conflict.)
And definitely a redemption. That's direly needed. Along with, I dunno, REVERSING THE GODDAMN AFTERSTORIES?! (Aka let's pretend V's death never happened.)
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Haha, it SHOULD remind you of Twilight taking that we know it was originally a fanfic of it... Just take out the supernatural and plug in the businessmen.
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OH dear, I'm sorry! Did I just give you spoilers! I tried to be vague in case others happened upon the comments, but I didn't mean to ruin anything! How far in the game are you?
And yeah, even after what he did, I still love V, too! I still want him to be part of the RFA family and be loved and whatnot. I just want him to have to seriously repent for what he aided in. He doesn't just get to get away with all that... So while I love his character, I just need him to get some help from the hospital to fix his eyes and somehow make up for all the grief he caused EVERYONE in the RFA- especially the twins.
Oh, haha, so V is your husbando? That's awesome X3 As you can guess from this post, Jumin is my husbando. I mean, I went into the game absolutely loving 707 from day one onward, and I thought he was hilarious, the best, etc. That was BEFORE I saw that the whole fandom exploded with 707 love, and I was just like, "I guess I have good taste?" And I saved his ending for last, knowing then that it was the 'true end', and.... And I lost that "husbando love" with 707... I still love his character, and he's borderline my favorite character, but... He hit too close to home, you know? He was to real. He was too me. And it kind of hurt to see that. Knowing that, I couldn't be all, "omG 707 is my total husband <3" anymore. And after I had already played Jumin's route who I initially didn't like at ALL but by the end of his route really loved him, I decided Jumin is probably my new favourite. 707 is just a close, CLOSE second and only behind a little because he really DID hit too close...
After Jumin's route, I claimed Jumin as my seme-husband, 707 as my seke-husband, and Yoosung as my uke-waifu 'cause he's just too cute, and I wanna protect him. But after 707's route, I decided Jumin was my husband, Yoosung is still my waifu, and 707 is my best man XD In the end, though, I can kinda ship every character with each other, so the RFA family is just a whole bundle of love in general.
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Hahahah that's actually true? By the way after finding an interview with E. L. James I kinda felt bad about writing on my phone lol. XD
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Oh, it's perfectly fine!! I honestly have only made it onto Zen's route. I mostly found stuff out through my browsing of fanart and fics and the spoilers just...
Jumped out at me. So I don't mind! ^-^
YES FIX HIS EYESIGHT.
Oh yes definitely! Jumin seems like a fantastic choice as well, I have to say. I had a small phase in which I was crazy for Jumin. (It may have or may not have also aligned with the time where I was checking out hypnotism audio and one of the narrators in a video sounded like the exact headcanon english voice I have for Jumin...)
Oh god yes, Sev is full fledgedly too real to be the perfect "husbando". But that's why he's so deeply adored by the fanbase. I have a bit of an attachment to Saeran due to a couple fics I've read (refer to my chibi MC drawing for a brief explanation of that. 
POLYAMORY FTW
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Nah, I think some skills can be used by great writers, and some are used by writers who are still in progress! They may share some skills or tools, but it doesn't keep them from their talent ^^
Aaand I took an expertly long time responding to this OTL I'm sorry.... But at this point, have you gotten further than Zen's route?
Wow, though, I kinda wanna hear that narrator that sounds like English Jumin! Jumin has such a beautiful voice~ I originally was 1000% sure Seven was the guy I'd love the most, and I almost bought a body pillow of him XD I would go on and on about how great he was and about how I liked him before I saw that the whole fandom was in love with him, etc. But then I did his route, and now I think he belongs with MC, and he'd be a great platonic friend, but Jumin belongs with me XD Even though I used to think I'd hate Jumin... how times change.
I'm glad V is the one you like, though! I think, if you've found out more about him, you'll be surprised but still manage to love him the way you do~
Oh yes. Polyamory is good uwu
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Well hello again! ^^
I've honestly rifted from the actual MysMe app for a while and am running out of hourglasses to restore conversations, but I'm THIS close to finishing the Zen route.
If I give you the link to said audio (WARNING: Itmayormaynotbesexual.) do you PROMISE not to judge me?? Like really this is one of THOSE THINGS.
*slides in on linoleum flooring with no grip socks* *falls on the floor* I found out more about V. And... *thumbs up* still love him.
Omf I really need to find more poly fics with Jumin and V + the reader.
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Oh wow! I suppose, if you know a lot of the story though, the game might not be as appealing? I'd still recommend it if you can though ^^
And no, dude, I wouldn't judge! But if it's on a site I'm not used to, I probably won't click the link, if I'm honest UwU; Just cautious, you know? But yeah, I totally respect your kinks, bro~
Ahaha, I'm glad you still love him! I feel bad for him but also feel bad about him while also still appreciating his personality and contributions as a character I love... He's a hard relationship XD
oooo, that sounds nice~ I think, Vitamin is a good ship XD It's kind of sweet~
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Oh nononoooo, the story is still very appealing!!
VITAMIN
I LOVE IT
I'M GONNA USE THAT TERM FROM NOW ON XD
Okay so this is the link, but forewarning, I listened to a clip again, and it's a REALLY FUCKING DEEP voice. It may have been a delusion that it sounded like Jumin, or maybe I related him to it because of the title... um, I'm rambling, here it is: youtu.be/GAuwTuP0Y8E
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Oh, good! I hope you get the hourglasses to continue soon~
Haha, I actually saw the ship name somewhere on tumblr, so I can't take credit, but I thought it was a cute name too >w<
Oh wow, that's a SUPER deep voice! Like, insanely so! But I could still see it used for Jumin in an English dub ^^
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Oh god I am BLUSHING.
How much of that audio did you listen to?!
I'm trying to get google play cards asap for more hourglasses lololol.
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Just the first few lines~ Until he said something about "submitting to your master" or something like that? I was mostly listening to his voice, though, not his words ^^ If you want me to delete these comments, I can figure out how to do that, in case you're worried?
I wish you luck!
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Oh, I'm generally shameless, but I'm just a tad flustered about it. The partial truth is gonna come out in my third edition of a little series called "The Reasons I'm Going To Hell", so I see no need to cover this up.
It just... gets worse- or better, if you're into that stuff- throughout the whole thing. I don't mean to sound perverse but I absolutely reccomend it for its intended usage-
I... shouldn't have said that last part, should I've?
But yeah, the Google Play cards are rare to acquire for me. I usually come across them only on occasions like birthdays and holidays lol.
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Oh, okay! It's good to be transparent, I'd say~
No, that's not bad to say at all! I'd consider it, but I'm super asexual with a repulsion for being involved in sexual acts with others. That's not to say I can't enjoy intimacy with myself, but listening to a person speak while doing something like that would feel too close to involving someone else in my private time, and I think that would make me feel nauseous... But I'm glad it works for you! To each their own, you know?
I definitely have characters who would be into that, too ^^
I've honestly never really seen one... But it only costs a couple bucks for hourglasses~!
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Ahahah, I'm glad that you can see where I'm coming from on that aspect.
Oh, I'm honestly surprised to see that you're very non-judgemental about this, hahah. Thank you.
That is true lol
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Of course! I mean, I wanna make my comics get into rated R zones, too, so it's good for me to either be transparent or have separate pen names for my sfw and nsfw productions.
Yeah, you're welcome! There's really nothing to judge, I don't think; then again, maybe being ace yet growing up in a family where sex was such an open topic, I'm kind of neutral to it all XD I've met a lot of friends with a lot of different interests, and I always think it's cool when they wanna show me something they like or teach me about the stuff their into! I used to not understand a lot, but now I can rationalize most anything in 'kinkdom', and I've even gone into adding these interests into my own characters as well ^^ For example, my recent couple, Gure and Chigo, are very much into the BDSM kink, so it's been fun learning about it!
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