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This one has proper scaling based on what Keith Aiken, a guy that worked on the show, said. So... yeah. Still interesting, and the heat of his atomic breath is still orders of magnitude higher than the hottest known star.Related content
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Do you have a source for this statement by Keith Aiken? There are so many conflicting sources for the 1998 Godzilla's size that it's been very confusing for years.
In the cartoon, Godzilla 1998 Jr. was stated to weigh 60,000 metric tons in the episode "Cash of the Titans." As far as I'm aware, the 500-ton statement comes from a novelization for the 1998 movie that got other official numbers wrong, such as stating that the 1998 Godzilla's tail is only 200 feet (61 meters) long whereas an official guidebook for the movie states 256 feet (78 meters), and the guidebook is accurate to the movie model. The novelization also declares a body length of 90 meters, but the scaling used in the movie gives a body length of over 100 meters.
The 55-meter shoulder height comes from an official but unreleased (the toy line was cancelled) size chart for the cartoon Godzilla. In this size chart, Godzilla's body length is 143.6 meters. It appears you're using numbers from multiple contradictory sources, but the good news is that the cartoon sizes give bigger numbers.
Someone used 3D models of the 1998 Godzilla to measure his volume and weight based on the movie's size and the cartoon size chart's size. The movie size gave a weight of 6,600 metric tons and the cartoon size chart's size gave a weight of 25,000 metric tons.
If we instead accept the in-universe statement of 60,000 metric tons, then the cartoon Godzilla would have to be approximately 74 meters tall at the shoulder in the theropod stance and approximately 94 meters tall at the tip of the tallest dorsal plate, which also makes him well over 100 meters tall standing upright.
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I have screenshots of him saying it. I include it in this video.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvth2b…
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Interesting. That means there are real production notes for the cartoon stating the cartoon Godzilla to be "180 feet tall." I noticed that both a Scifi Japan interview with the cartoon creators and the old website for the cartoon on the Wayback Machine state "180 feet," but I wondered whether this was just copying movie side material or using notes for the cartoon (neither number was a direct quote from an interviewee, so I wasn't sure).
However, there's no mention as to whether this is 180 feet upright or in the theropod stance, and the cartoon size chart went with a 180-foot shoulder height in the theropod stance. It makes me think that someone involved with the cartoon reinterpreted an unclear statement and accidentally made the cartoon Godzillas bigger. The screenshotted comments also don't say anything about the bizarrely tiny 500-ton weight and the fact that two of the books based on the movie are inconsistent with each other.
By the way, this is the cartoon size chart I'm talking about:
vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/th…
I wonder what the story is behind the "60,000 metric tons" statement from the cartoon itself. Sixty thousand metric tons just happens to be the weight of the heaviest incarnation of the Japanese Godzilla at the time of the cartoon's production. I always thought this was a deliberate reference to the Japanese Godzilla and assumed the show's writers intended their Godzilla to be just as heavy. I wish we could get some clarification as to whether or not this was an intentional retcon.
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There's a group on Facebook dedicated to Godzilla 1998 fans, he is also in that group and I've had conversations with him. He is the tiny 500 tons, just the same as the one in the movie.
As for the statement in the cartoon, that's the one where they tried to make the monsters battle for the audience, right? It could easily be an overstatement for hype.
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What group is this? And do you have a link to a statement saying Toonzilla is 500 tons?
Yes, the statement in the cartoon came from that monster coliseum episode ("Cash of the Titans"). It's true that some could take it as an overstatement for hype, and you're not the first to point that out, but I always found it odd that I could never find any sources for the 500-ton weight and I only just recently found out that it originally came from a novelization of the movie that contains incorrect numbers. At least the 60,000-ton statement sounded like it could have been an homage to the Japanese Godzilla rather than a number pulled out of thin air. For the 1998 Godzilla to weigh 500 tons, he'd have to be a mere 14-15 meters tall at the shoulder in the theropod stance.
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If he's the same size, he's likely to be the same weight.
www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi…
Or perhaps his bones could be hallow, and everything about him could have evolved for the largest possible size with the smallest possible weight.
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I can't see the page. Do you have the name of the group?
If he were that light and still 55 meters tall (at the shoulder or otherwise), he'd be far less dense than water and it'd be impossible for him to swim. He'd just float at the surface. I know kaiju movies don't always care about those details (Pacific Rim official stats do the exact same thing), but still.
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The name of the group is Godzilla 1998 fans.
Yeah... it's a giant monster movie. lol If he were that light, he'd still collapse under his own weight and not be able to come up on land at all.
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